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[Q] Does the Galaxy Nexus Support exFAT file format / system?

Does the Galaxy Nexus Support exFAT file format / system?
I did a search but ppl only vaguely mentioned exFAT.
If exFAT is not supported, has anyone tried making ext4 drives using this?
http://shuffleos.com/1847/ext2fsd-read-write-ext4-ext3-ext2-partitions-windows/

I dunno about xfat but I'bee unable to get ext2fsd on Win&64 bit to work properly with my ext4 partitions (64 bit Ubuntu). Sometimes it can read it, mostly it hangs while I'm waiting for it to open.

That's lame. Android needs to add exFAT support or create ext4 drivers for Windows.
Or else, Windows Tablet 8 is going to kill the Android tablet market!

The Galaxy Nexus doesn't function as a USB storage device when attached to a computer. It communicates via MTP instead. This renders the underlying filesystem of the partitions on the phone itself somewhat irrelevant. No, no one has hacked in a way to force the phone to act as a USB drive yet.
Sooo, in light of that, what are you talking about?

DivinityCycle said:
The Galaxy Nexus doesn't function as a USB storage device when attached to a computer. It communicates via MTP instead. This renders the underlying filesystem of the partitions on the phone itself somewhat irrelevant. No, no one has hacked in a way to force the phone to act as a USB drive yet.
Sooo, in light of that, what are you talking about?
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The ability to read USB Flash drives attached to the device. It won't read exFAT and getting Windows to read/write ext4 is a big PITA.
I just ordered a Samsung OTG cable so I can use my 64gb USB Flash drive as extended storage for the phone. But I have a lot of video files larger than 4GB that won't work with FAT32.

Neo3D said:
The ability to read USB Flash drives attached to the device.
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Reported to work with 4.0.2 using stickmount, dunno what filesystems they had on the sticks. I'd be inclined to try ntfs after fat32.

Clancy_s said:
Reported to work with 4.0.2 using stickmount, dunno what filesystems they had on the sticks. I'd be inclined to try ntfs after fat32.
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My cousin says that his Transformer Prime can read NTFS out of the box. Would love to see that kind of support in our phones.

Is there any way to use NTFS for SD cards?

I had an micro sd card with NTFS, and my Pixel XL couldn't read it. So I used the phone to format it to.... guess what? Fat-freaking-32.
Pixel formats cards to Fat32? This is painful.
Is there a way to make Pixel recognize NTFS of exFAT? Can Pixel not read files larger than 4GB?
What am I missing?

nabbed said:
I had an micro sd card with NTFS, and my Pixel XL couldn't read it. So I used the phone to format it to.... guess what? Fat-freaking-32.
Pixel formats cards to Fat32? This is painful.
Is there a way to make Pixel recognize NTFS of exFAT? Can Pixel not read files larger than 4GB?
What am I missing?
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You could use Total Commander and their seperate plugin for ntfs. Its in the play store.

I think I read somewhere that NTFS is owned by Microsoft and Google declined to pay the necessary royalties to Microsoft for the ability to include NTFS support in the Pixel OS

TonikJDK said:
You could use Total Commander and their seperate plugin for ntfs. Its in the play store.
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The phone would literally say that the sd card was not supported.

TonikJDK said:
You could use Total Commander and their seperate plugin for ntfs. Its in the play store.
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Are you saying that while the Android OS 7.1.1 couldn't recognize the sd card, an app called Total Commander could do it?

Ok, how do I copy and read a 4+GB file in a Pixel XL? With an SD/XD Micro card, with an adapter?
Here's the info on the adapter... (I don't know why everyone isn't using it...)
https://www.amazon.com/Dash-Micro-G3-Type-C-keychain/dp/B01C5JJKFY

nabbed said:
Are you saying that while the Android OS 7.1.1 couldn't recognize the sd card, an app called Total Commander could do it?
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I believe that it will, but have never tried it. That app plugs into the API of the software and reads the card directly for you. But anything you do would be done via Total Commander, which is a file manager, so copying and so on.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/9Y2Y46GsEVQ/dTZiDuCrAQAJ

TonikJDK said:
I believe that it will, but have never tried it. That app plugs into the API of the software and reads the card directly for you. But anything you do would be done via Total Commander, which is a file manager, so copying and so on.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/9Y2Y46GsEVQ/dTZiDuCrAQAJ
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So, you are saying that I should reformat my card to back NTFS or exFAT, then copy all of my files (100+GB = over an hour), then try to use this in my Pixel XL (which already rejected it once), with a new untested app called Total Commander, in hopes that it can read the sd card, which the OS cannot?
With no evidence whatsoever - when you yourself said - "I believe that it will, but have never tried it.".........................
Could you please give me some more encouraging facts? Something to motivate me to spend multiple hours on this endeavor?
Do you see where your post makes ZERO sense?

nabbed said:
So, you are saying that I should reformat my card to back NTFS or exFAT, then copy all of my files (100+GB = over an hour), then try to use this in my Pixel XL (which already rejected it once), with a new untested app called Total Commander, in hopes that it can read the sd card, which the OS cannot?
With no evidence whatsoever - when you yourself said - "I believe that it will, but have never tried it.".........................
Could you please give me some more encouraging facts? Something to motivate me to spend multiple hours on this endeavor?
Do you see where your post makes ZERO sense?
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By that logic, you posting this thread make ZERO sense. If you didn't want to go back to NTFS or exFAT why did you ask the question. Which I answered in a polite and helpful manner. And yes, I linked you to some people that had success.

TonikJDK said:
By that logic, you posting this thread make ZERO sense. If you didn't want to go back to NTFS or exFAT why did you ask the question. Which I answered in a polite and helpful manner. And yes, I linked you to some people that had success.
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I just read the link you posted - sorry, didn't have the time to go through it yesterday.
This one guy said that you could do it with Total Commander and a Paragon File System plugin.
I guess I could try it. But it's cumbersome as hell - I'd have to copy multi-GB files to internal storage before I could play them in MX Player. Is that right?
As a side note, so Google just can't afford and NTFS or exFAT license. Nice!
Just one more frustrating thing about this phone. Sigh.

I deliberately formated my sd card to use NTFS and my android 8.1 phone has no problem using it

JavJav123 said:
I deliberately formated my sd card to use NTFS and my android 8.1 phone has no problem using it
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That's nice but without the model of the phone that information is useless.
Some manufacturers pay the royalty and install the driver in their phones OS.
Most don't, though some Chinese manufacturers put the driver in anyway.

Any way to get around the 4GB size limitation of FAT32 file system on Pixel for OTG?

I can't figure out how to get around the 4GB file size restriction on the Pixel 3. I never had any problems using an exFAT file system on external hard drives/USB drives on previous phones.
It seems that if I attempt to use exFAT or NTFS file systems on my drives, the Pixel will not recognize it, format it back to FAT32, and I'm back at square one.
I've tried to wirelessly transfer files from PC to phone through Portal, using the external drive as the storage device, but that didn't work either.

double0psycho said:
I can't figure out how to get around the 4GB file size restriction on the Pixel 3. I never had any problems using an exFAT file system on external hard drives/USB drives on previous phones.
It seems that if I attempt to use exFAT or NTFS file systems on my drives, the Pixel will not recognize it, format it back to FAT32, and I'm back at square one.
I've tried to wirelessly transfer files from PC to phone through Portal, using the external drive as the storage device, but that didn't work either.
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??? I have a 128 gb USB c thumb drive formatted fat32. It's working fine on my pixel 3.
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I can get FAT32 to work. But FAT32 limits file sizes to less than 4GB. I'm trying to have larger movie files on a USB drive to watch on a long trip. Can't put them on a FAT32 formatted drive because they're way too large. And Pixel doesn't support exFAT or NTFS.
I'm trying to find a way around this, unless I really just have to resort to splitting all of the files into smaller segments. Was hoping not to have to do that though.

double0psycho said:
I can get FAT32 to work. But FAT32 limits file sizes to less than 4GB. I'm trying to have larger movie files on a USB drive to watch on a long trip. Can't put them on a FAT32 formatted drive because they're way too small. And Pixel doesn't support exFAT or NTFS.
I'm trying to find a way around this, unless I really just have to resort to splitting all of the files into smaller segments. Was hoping not to have to do that though.
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Windows artificially limits fat32 to 32 gb so if that's all you need it should format it fine. If you need more there are 3rd party apps or you can do it in a windows power shell running as administrator. In a power shell use format /FS:FAT32 X:. Where X: is the drive letter of the device you're formatting.
Edit, you know what. I miss understood your question. I was thinking partition size not file size. Sorry about that.
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jd1639 said:
Windows artificially limits fat32 to 32 gb so if that's all you need it should format it fine. If you need more there are 3rd party apps or you can do it in a windows power shell running as administrator. In a power shell use format /FS:FAT32 X:. Where X: is the drive letter of the device you're formatting.
Edit, you know what. I miss understood your question. I was thinking partition size not file size. Sorry about that.
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Yeah, realized I said small when I meant the file sizes are too large. Either way, I'm hoping to find a way to get my pixel to be able to "see" some 8GB or larger files on an external storage device. I've used a couple apps that said they allow read/write NTFS and exFAT file systems, but none have really worked.

I'm just passing through, I don't own a pixel. But normally you need a kernel that supports either ntfs or exfat or both. I saw there are 2 kernels in the development section. Have you tried those?

double0psycho said:
I can't figure out how to get around the 4GB file size restriction on the Pixel 3. I never had any problems using an exFAT file system on external hard drives/USB drives on previous phones.
It seems that if I attempt to use exFAT or NTFS file systems on my drives, the Pixel will not recognize it, format it back to FAT32, and I'm back at square one.
I've tried to wirelessly transfer files from PC to phone through Portal, using the external drive as the storage device, but that didn't work either.
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FAT32 and exFAT are not the same type of filesystem.
double0psycho said:
I can get FAT32 to work. But FAT32 limits file sizes to less than 4GB. I'm trying to have larger movie files on a USB drive to watch on a long trip. Can't put them on a FAT32 formatted drive because they're way too large. And Pixel doesn't support exFAT or NTFS.
I'm trying to find a way around this, unless I really just have to resort to splitting all of the files into smaller segments. Was hoping not to have to do that though.
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FAT32 is working as it should be.
jd1639 said:
Windows artificially limits fat32 to 32 gb so if that's all you need it should format it fine. If you need more there are 3rd party apps or you can do it in a windows power shell running as administrator. In a power shell use format /FS:FAT32 X:. Where X: is the drive letter of the device you're formatting.
Edit, you know what. I miss understood your question. I was thinking partition size not file size. Sorry about that.
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It is not an "artificial" limit. This is how FAT32 was designed to work.
double0psycho said:
Yeah, realized I said small when I meant the file sizes are too large. Either way, I'm hoping to find a way to get my pixel to be able to "see" some 8GB or larger files on an external storage device. I've used a couple apps that said they allow read/write NTFS and exFAT file systems, but none have really worked.
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Those apps never work without root. Even with root, they're still finicky.
[Cruzer] said:
I'm just passing through, I don't own a pixel. But normally you need a kernel that supports either ntfs or exfat or both. I saw there are 2 kernels in the development section. Have you tried those?
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As stated here, a custom kernel with exFAT support is your best option.
Please read up on filesystems here.
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bxlegend said:
FAT32 and exFAT are not the same type of filesystem.
It is not an "artificial" limit. This is how FAT32 was designed to work.
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I agree to a point. It was designed to work that way since Microsoft is pushing NTFS for larger partitions. You can certainly have FAT32 partitions larger than 32 gb.

jd1639 said:
I agree to a point. It was designed to work that way since Microsoft is pushing NTFS for larger partitions. You can certainly have FAT32 partitions larger than 32 gb.
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Let's be careful here because you're confusing file size with partition size. Microsoft is not "pushing" one filesystem over another. The FAT32 filesystem had too many limits for servers which is why Microsoft introduced NTFS. As consumer needs grew, NTFS was made the default for Windows filesystem. The same applies to removable flash storage. To get consumers and manufacturers away from FAT32, Microsoft created exFAT. Microsoft, Apple, and Google are all competitors and they all have default supported filesystems. Microsoft and Apple user proprietary filesystems while Google sticks with open source since it's patent free. Which is why Pixel phones do not support Microsoft and Apple filesystems by default.
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double0psycho said:
I can't figure out how to get around the 4GB file size restriction on the Pixel 3. I never had any problems using an exFAT file system on external hard drives/USB drives on previous phones.
It seems that if I attempt to use exFAT or NTFS file systems on my drives, the Pixel will not recognize it, format it back to FAT32, and I'm back at square one.
I've tried to wirelessly transfer files from PC to phone through Portal, using the external drive as the storage device, but that didn't work either.
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There are a couple of apps that allow accessing exFAT and NTFS file systems via OTG. Here's one I've used:
https://mixplorer.en.uptodown.com/android
It also allows accessing the files directly, so a slow copy to the phone isn't required for say playing a movie.

exFAT or NTFS OTG compatibility?

I've done some digging and found little about the issue. one not-very-useful thread here, one Magisk module that refuses to run on 9.0, and one kernel that claims to support NTFS, but just keeps crashing my pixel's SystemUI.
Does anyone know a way to add reliable NTFS or exFAT access to the Pixel 3XL? I format a microSD card or thumbdrive on the phone and it formats to FAT32. And worse, when I plug it into the computer I get "this filesystem is corrupted, scan to fix". format FAT32 on the PC, and us it on the phone (or fix the 'corruption' i mentioned), and it says the drive is corrupted when plugged into the phone, instead.
Try formatting to exFAT or NTFS and the best I can get is "this drive needs formatting" when it's plugged into the phone. (Even after installing the one kernel I found that's supposed to support NTFS, ElementX.)
Rooted, Magisk'd, TWRP'd, etc... surely there's some reliable option, someplace? I can't believe a phone this advanced can't even handle exFAT like my ancient LG could.

christiebunny said:
I've done some digging and found little about the issue. one not-very-useful thread here, one Magisk module that refuses to run on 9.0, and one kernel that claims to support NTFS, but just keeps crashing my pixel's SystemUI.
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What are you using to read the OTG drive and what are you trying to do with the files? For example, if you want to read and transfer files from a NTFS formatted drive you can use a file explorer that supports NTFS like MiXplorer or SolidExplorer. But... if you are trying to stream some big ass 10 Gb .mkv movie files directly from the drive, it's not gonna happen.

v12xke said:
What are you using to read the OTG drive and what are you trying to do with the files? For example, if you want to read and transfer files from a NTFS formatted drive you can use a file explorer that supports NTFS like MiXplorer or SolidExplorer. But... if you are trying to stream some big ass 10 Gb .mkv movie files directly from the drive, it's not gonna happen.
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I'll give that a try, thank you! currently all I've been using is ES file Explorer Pro, which doesn't see it at all, either.

I love mix explorer, and it sees the sdcard, exFAT or NTFS.... but transferring is 1-2MB/s, which is unusable for anything big enough to need exFAT/NTFS
I can't believe there's no way to add in the capability via magisk module/flashable zip/etc

" But... if you are trying to stream some big ass 10 Gb .mkv movie files directly from the drive, it's not gonna happen. "
For this to happen you need an app called JS USB OTG, it can play big mkv files like it's playing from internal memory.

yackmaan said:
" But... if you are trying to stream some big ass 10 Gb .mkv movie files directly from the drive, it's not gonna happen. "
For this to happen you need an app called JS USB OTG, it can play big mkv files like it's playing from internal memory.
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I purchased the "USB Media Explorer" and I can open music/video and copy to internal storage.
You cold use "USB Photo Viewer" for trial, To see if you can read photo on USB disk with ext fat format.
these two Apps both made by Homesoft, LLC.

Fire TV STICK 4K USB DRIVE TO READ NTFS OR EXFAT

I need the easiest way to enable my firestick 4k to read files higher than 4gb.
Advice?
Thanks

stefss said:
I need the easiest way to enable my firestick 4k to read files higher than 4gb.
Advice?
Thanks
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To enable NTFS and ExFAT by using Magisk (follow the steps carefully)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/development/magisk-amazon-firetv4k-ntfs-f2fs-ext4-t3991981

stefss said:
I need the easiest way to enable my firestick 4k to read files higher than 4gb.
Advice?
Thanks
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It can easily read more than 32GB, without doing anything. (In Fat32 of course)
Or if you want to use NTFS but without Root, check this out
https://youtu.be/qoQkGQiylBM

If i am not wrong, maximum for fat32 is 4gb filesize?

stefss said:
If i am not wrong, maximum for fat32 is 4gb filesize?
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Its not
https://support.microsoft.com/en-in/help/154997/description-of-the-fat32-file-system
Check this out

SweenWolf said:
Its not
https://support.microsoft.com/en-in/help/154997/description-of-the-fat32-file-system
Check this out
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Anyone any ideas how I can get this storage module working? flashed with twrp Pretorians add on. Using format fat32 and filemanager + but it's not showing up the 32gb SanDisk USB storage. Dunno what I'm doing wrong man [emoji106]
Any help appreciated
Cheers
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Bertonumber1 said:
Anyone any ideas how I can get this storage module working? flashed with twrp Pretorians add on. Using format fat32 and filemanager + but it's not showing up the 32gb SanDisk USB storage. Dunno what I'm doing wrong man [emoji106]
Any help appreciated
Cheers
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You don't need to install any module to be abke to access fat32 formatted device, hell you don't need to have root at all. Fat32 is recognized by the system as is.
You just need a working OTG cable and use MiXplorer (download it from XDA official page). You will see your thumb drive in the hamburger menu (first or second one).
I have non rooted firestick 4k and it works.
I have no experience with fos5 devices and i cannot say anything about that because most NORMAL commands don't work there

stefss said:
If i am not wrong, maximum for fat32 is 4gb filesize?
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NTFS and ExFAT file systems are developed by Microsoft.
Amazon is not paying to Microsoft for the license to use NTFS and ExFAT.
The maximum file size for NTFS and ExFAT are 16EB (exabytes) or 16 million GB (gigabytes).

SweenWolf said:
You don't need to install any module to be abke to access fat32 formatted device, hell you don't need to have root at all. Fat32 is recognized by the system as is.
You just need a working OTG cable and use MiXplorer (download it from XDA official page). You will see your thumb drive in the hamburger menu (first or second one).
I have non rooted firestick 4k and it works.
I have no experience with fos5 devices and i cannot say anything about that because most NORMAL commands don't work there
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Hey my device is the way I want it now sween wolf, rooted with all apps installed, I can't be assed unrooting it now.
but anyway I flashed the magisk module with the general thought being if I was using a pre-rooted rom I would lose the ability to use the USB drive through OTG?
So I flashed Pretorians module but I can't get the USB drive to show up, it's a sabrent 32 gb formated to fat32
I'm using a similar app to xplore called filemanager plus but with no joy... The USB storage just isn't playing ball and showing up you know?
So I don't need the module at all? , should I perhaps try reformatting the USB?

Bertonumber1 said:
Hey my device is the way I want it now sween wolf, rooted with all apps installed, I can't be assed unrooting it now.
but anyway I flashed the magisk module with the general thought being if I was using a pre-rooted rom I would lose the ability to use the USB drive through OTG?
So I flashed Pretorians module but I can't get the USB drive to show up, it's a sabrent 32 gb formated to fat32
I'm using a similar app to xplore called filemanager plus but with no joy... The USB storage just isn't playing ball and showing up you know?
So I don't need the module at all? , should I perhaps try reformatting the USB?
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I am not telling you to unroot, this is not something rooting a device kills, but yeah with or without root, usb works.
Try changing your explorer, use mix or es file explorer to see if the usb is getting recognized but isn't showing up

My english is not perfect so i still not try this before i will be sure.
What is easiest way to enable ntfs or exfat usb drives?
I need this for Kodi, so i cant use es file manager.

stefss said:
If i am not wrong, maximum for fat32 is 4gb filesize?
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File System Functionality Comparison - Win32 apps
Tables that list functionality and feature support comparisons for the four main Windows file systems, NTFS, exFAT, UDF, and FAT32.
docs.microsoft.com
so fat32 max filesize is 4gb, you are right
and that is the reason users need for higher resolution movies bigger than 4gb ntfs or exfat mass or some NAS to circumvent the limitation for local mass storage filesize of fat32

SweenWolf said:
Its not
https://support.microsoft.com/en-in/help/154997/description-of-the-fat32-file-system
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It absolutely is. The maximum file size for FAT32 is 4GB. What you linked to is exFAT, which is NOT FAT32. exFAT also cannot be read by the firestick.