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I'm still new to smartphones/Androids...
After experimenting with the lastest update, it appears to me that turning on the hotspot option automatically turns off WiFi reception, and vice versa. If I'm wrong about that, please let me know.
Otherwise, I was a surprised and a little disappointed at that, since I can think of several instances in which it would be very useful to establish a wireless connection to the G2, and then re-serve that out as a hotspot.
I'm wondering if it's a hardware, legal, software, or simple greed reason that prevented TMO from making that option available?
Yes the hotspot feature doesnt serve as a repeater of sorts for wifi, it simply turns your 3G 4G signal to wifi. Imagine if you could do that though. You could share your wifi to yourself and somebody on another device could make a wifi call through your wifi, being repeated through your router. Clearly this would cause a glitch in the time/space continuum.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using telepathy and unicorn dust!
KeithAdv said:
I'm still new to smartphones/Androids...
After experimenting with the lastest update, it appears to me that turning on the hotspot option automatically turns off WiFi reception, and vice versa. If I'm wrong about that, please let me know.
Otherwise, I was a surprised and a little disappointed at that, since I can think of several instances in which it would be very useful to establish a wireless connection to the G2, and then re-serve that out as a hotspot.
I'm wondering if it's a hardware, legal, software, or simple greed reason that prevented TMO from making that option available?
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Are you for real? To create the hotspot you're using your wireless card, the same one you'd normally be using to connect to wifi. Greed has little to do with this short of the phone only having a single wireless card. But no worries, laptops can't do this, either, unless they have a second wireless card.
It's a hardware limitation. The wifi chip can only do one thing at a time: either connect to an existing wireless network as a client, or serve it's own internet. Not both.
Got it. Thank you!
first id like to say lol to the time space joke
next... why on earth would u even want to get a wifi signal from ur g2... and then broadcast the signal you get from the wifi? why not just connect whatever your gonna connect to the g2 straight to the source..?
If you are on an airplane using Wifi (which is paid, and usually cheaper from a phone than from a laptop), and someone you want to broadcast that Wifi signal to your laptop and a partner's laptop --- thus not paying twice. It could be useful then.
You can do one laptop with wired tether, but not two or more.
cparekh said:
You can do one laptop with wired tether, but not two or more.
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Yeah, you can. Share the wifi through the laptop.
kidd657 said:
first id like to say lol to the time space joke
next... why on earth would u even want to get a wifi signal from ur g2... and then broadcast the signal you get from the wifi? why not just connect whatever your gonna connect to the g2 straight to the source..?
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Well, I know now that re-serving/repeating a wifi signal is a physical impossibility with the G2; however, to answer your question, there are several instances where such a capability would be useful:
1. Our company's wireless network is pretty secure. We do also have a server for guest access but the password changes daily. So, if a vendor or other person drops by and wants to show me a demo or catalog that's on-line, I have to hunt down a tech guy who knows today's password. That's been a bit of a time-waste to me in the past.
2. I'm on the road with a few colleagues. I get my hotel room's wireless access set up but I sometimes have to fiddle with my other various wireless devices to get them to work and a colleague might bring a laptop over to my room if we want to work on something. It's not unusual these days for road warriors to take a wireless router with them just for these circumstances.
3. I'm at the airport with a couple colleagues and we're all working. If we all need to get on-line, we each have to buy an hour's access (which never, ever gets fully used) at $10 a pop.
4. I'm at some research facility or client's and I manage to get the wireless key for their network. But, while I'm there, other colleagues drift in and out and it's always another mad dash for them to find the sacred piece of paper with the key.
Now, there are various ways to solve all of the above (and all of them are real-world experiences), but by in each case the easiest and most economical would be for me to re-serve a wireless signal and give my key to my vendors/associates, if the G2 actually had that capability. I know it doesn't and can't now.
Still love it, though.
There's nothing wrong that mobile hotspot and wifi can't co-exist (one is server and another is client).
Same thing happens on my nexus one.
dude seriously
KeithAdv said:
Well, I know now that re-serving/repeating a wifi signal is a physical impossibility with the G2; however, to answer your question, there are several instances where such a capability would be useful:
1. Our company's wireless network is pretty secure. We do also have a server for guest access but the password changes daily. So, if a vendor or other person drops by and wants to show me a demo or catalog that's on-line, I have to hunt down a tech guy who knows today's password. That's been a bit of a time-waste to me in the past.
2. I'm on the road with a few colleagues. I get my hotel room's wireless access set up but I sometimes have to fiddle with my other various wireless devices to get them to work and a colleague might bring a laptop over to my room if we want to work on something. It's not unusual these days for road warriors to take a wireless router with them just for these circumstances.
3. I'm at the airport with a couple colleagues and we're all working. If we all need to get on-line, we each have to buy an hour's access (which never, ever gets fully used) at $10 a pop.
4. I'm at some research facility or client's and I manage to get the wireless key for their network. But, while I'm there, other colleagues drift in and out and it's always another mad dash for them to find the sacred piece of paper with the key.
Now, there are various ways to solve all of the above (and all of them are real-world experiences), but by in each case the easiest and most economical would be for me to re-serve a wireless signal and give my key to my vendors/associates, if the G2 actually had that capability. I know it doesn't and can't now.
Still love it, though.
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Dude seriously... its called an ad-hoc network... you tether your phone to your computer and then broadcast an ad-hoc network from your computer and there you go... I've used this for counter-strike lan games with 8 players before on the g1 and the moto cliq and my g2... goggle how to set up ad-hoc
hi, i just want to know if is there any solution to use Tethering (on Froyo) like a wifi repeater? can i do it? thanks
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I have a Cisco E4200 Wireless N Router downstairs, which provides great speed with my Galaxy Nexus. My bedroom is at the other corner of the house, and the signal has poor penetration there. Our house also has poor 3G/4G reception, and in fact, we have to use the Network Extender to get call reliability. So I need to get a better Wireless signal up there.
So, I just bought and installed the Netgear AV200 Powerline Wireless N Extender - the 'base' unit connects to the router downstairs via ethernet, and plugs into a wall socket. The Wireless adapter plugs into a socket in our bedroom, and is able to access the network via powerlines, and generates a strong Wireless N signal.
The problem relates to SSID, signal stength, etc.
Initially, I set up the Netgear adapter to use the same SSID and passphrase as the Cisco Router. Using WiFi analyzer, I can see this signal and it's strong. But my GNexus doesn't connect to it, but remains connected to the 2.4GHz signal coming from downstairs, even though it is much weaker.
I then created a different SSID for the Netgear Wireless Adapter, and a corresponding new WiFi connection on my phone, and it connects fine and gets great signal. But it doesn't seem to want to switch from the weaker downstairs signal, to the stronger upstairs signal, when I go upstairs. I have to manually switch.
So:
Is there any way to configure things to use the same SSID, and have my phone seamlessly switch between the 2 signals, using whichever is the strongest? Why isn't working to begin with?
Or, is there someway to configure the phone so that it readily switches to whichever SSID has the strongest signal?
If this needs to be posted elsewhere, please suggest where.
Thanks.
I cannot speak to the capabilities of Linksys by Cisco gear, but what I can tell is how we combat this issue in a "WiFi dense" area such as stadiums or hospitals. On all of Cisco's enterprise level products, you have the ability to disconnect any client that drops below a certain speed/signal (thus pushing to a closer AP with better signal). So, it a large, WiFi dense area, we would push all clients off an AP that were connecting at say, less than 24Mbit/s in a G environment.
You can try to see if your Linksys product supports that but I doubt it. Maybe a 3rd party firmware is available for your Linksys like DD-WRT that can offer that capability.
The downside to WiFi is, once a client connects, it holds on for dear life.
Thanks for the reply frogskins.
I looked through all the Cisco Router's settings and don't see anything that would enable what you're suggesting.
With a little more observation, it does appear that, with different SSID's at present, my phone will eventually switch to the stronger signal on its own, but it takes a while. As you said, it seems to want to "hold on" but eventually comes to its senses!
Any other thoughts on this, or how to use the same SSID, and have it switch seamlessly? With the same SSID, WiFi Analyzer showed both 2.4 and 5 GHz bands from the Cisco Router, and also the slightly different (2.6 GHz?) band from the Netgear adapter, all with the same SSID, but my phone didn't seem to be using or accessing the Netgear band, even though the signal was dramatically stronger.
Thanks.
G products should all fall within one of the 11 channels allocated within the 2.4GHz range. N products can do either 2.4 and 5Ghz. You should definitely not see anything in the 2.6 range on Wifi Analyzer.
Another thing you could consider is: does the Linksys support external antennas? By using higher gain dipoles or even directional antennas you can boost signal coverage in distant areas of a house or office without using the wireless extender. Lastly, usually products from the same manufacturer work best, ie Linksys AP and Linksys extender. Even though 802.11n is a standard now, interoperability is still an issue.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
Having the same SSID in different devices isnt going to make the phone switch from one to the other. You need to set up one device as an "extender" of the other, if you have already done this, then disregard this post and there is nothing you can easily do to fix your problem as you are running two different networks.
I know for my apple wireless routers, one unit is the base and my second and third units just grab the main signal and extend its reach.
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Having the same SSID in different devices isnt going to make the phone switch from one to the other. You need to set up one device as an "extender" of the other, if you have already done this, then disregard this post and there is nothing you can easily do to fix your problem as you are running two different networks.
I know for my apple wireless routers, one unit is the base and my second and third units just grab the main signal and extend its reach.
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Well, I configured the Netgear Wireless adapter with the same SSID and passphrase as my Linksys E4200 Router.
Is there some other step, on other device, so that the Netgear device is seen as an "extender"?
Also - someone else suggested that the two devices with the same SSID and passphrase must be on separate channels in order for this to work - is that correct?
DLCPhoto said:
Also - someone else suggested that the two devices with the same SSID and passphrase must be on separate channels in order for this to work - is that correct?
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That is 100% correct. Even though most WiFi AP's allow you to select channels 1-11, the only channels that do not overlap at all are 1,6 and 11. To prevent the signal from one device degrading the signal from another, they should be on separate, non-overlapping channels. This goes for any wifi signals you are possible picking up from neighbors, etc too. Run WiFi Analyzer and see what channels would be best to use.
And my apologies, I mis-read your original post. I thought you said the Netgear was an extender, not just another AP. If it is not an extender, then we have other issues to deal with.
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That is 100% correct. Even though most WiFi AP's allow you to select channels 1-11, the only channels that do not overlap at all are 1,6 and 11. To prevent the signal from one device degrading the signal from another, they should be on separate, non-overlapping channels. This goes for any wifi signals you are possible picking up from neighbors, etc too. Run WiFi Analyzer and see what channels would be best to use.
And my apologies, I mis-read your original post. I thought you said the Netgear was an extender, not just another AP. If it is not an extender, then we have other issues to deal with.
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Thanks again.
Regarding the frequencies, WiFi Analyzer shows my Linksys Router as using Channel 11 at 2462 MHz. The Netgear Adapter is shown as using Channel 1 at 2412 MHz. I knew I saw a "6" in there somewhere
The Linksys Router is set to use Channel 11, the Netgear Adapter is set to "Auto" but can be changed to a specific channel if desired.
As for whether the Netgear Adapter is an "extender" or "just another AP" I'll have to confess ignorance. Here's a link to Netgear's page on this:
http://www.netgear.com/home/products/powerline-and-coax/work-and-play/XAVNB2001.aspx
So currently, I have different SSID's for each device, and my phone will switch to the stronger signal eventually, but it seems to take at least 2 to 3 or so minutes to do this.
It makes me wonder that even if I can successfully configure both to the same SSID, if it will switch any faster than this.
Basically, I'd just like to configure things so that my phone quickly and seamlessly switches to the strongest available signal. Any thoughts on the best way to do this, or is it just going to take the phone a few minutes to switch to the better signal?
Hi!
I don't know if this is an actual "issue" I'm having with my phone but when I am about 15 feet away from my router and in my living room trying to make a wifi call, I am unable to do so. If I am within a few feet of my router, I am able to make wifi calls. I would like to add that when I am in my living room, I can use wifi to go on the internet and it works perfectly.
I called up T-Mobile and spoke to their technical support department and was told if you are more than 15 feet away from your router and/or there is a wall that is separating you from the router, you will not be able to get wifi calling. Is this information correct? Thanks!
lostincyberspace said:
Hi!
I don't know if this is an actual "issue" I'm having with my phone but when I am about 15 feet away from my router and in my living room trying to make a wifi call, I am unable to do so. If I am within a few feet of my router, I am able to make wifi calls. I would like to add that when I am in my living room, I can use wifi to go on the internet and it works perfectly.
I called up T-Mobile and spoke to their technical support department and was told if you are more than 15 feet away from your router and/or there is a wall that is separating you from the router, you will not be able to get wifi calling. Is this information correct? Thanks!
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its hard to explain but..uh...
my old phone I could be outside..in my detached garage (and wifi router is below ground in basement) and get wifi calling on my old phone.
on this phone...if i walk to the other end of the house or upstairs its pretty much game over.
Wifi on this phone just isn't so hot, range is probably only 1/2 - 2/3 of what I've seen on my old phones, not much we can do about it, to my knowledge unless some kind of software tweak can help but I haven't seen it yet.
So my phone seems to act really wonky on 5ghz band and ATT and comcast both have arris chipset based routers, the throughput speed is fine but the ping goes up and it has a intermittent packet throughput or something when i play games it goes from orange to green to orange to green with totally inconsistent ping times, i could only find one thread where i read these phones do not like arris chipsets which kinda sucks because thats all these broadband providers give out. on comcast modems you cant even use the 5ghz band its so bad, on att it works half of the time but the solution i found is to login to the 2.4ghz band, then logout then switch back to the 5ghz band and it seems to work, i know its working properly because my ping times are consistently 25ms when its having a problem its always 45+ms which isnt that huge of a difference but its so strange because clearing the cache does not solve this problem, im on the latest nof27b updated running pure nexus now, so i really wish they could fix this problem, if my router is unplugged and plugged back in it has this problem as well, i hate that i have to do a buncha restarting and logging in, at first i thought my pixel was broken, and i spent upward of 6 hours flashing and reflashing back to stock and rooting etc. anyone else with a similiar problem
Get some of the network tools on your phone and do some testing/data collection. If it truly is bad connecting to the 5Ghz network your only solution might be to buy your own wifi router and connect it to the cable modem and use your own WiFi setup (make sure you set it to use different channels than the ISP one if you can't turn off the ISP WiFi). We have Netgear X8 here at home and I only connect to 5 Ghz with zero issues.
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So my phone seems to act really wonky on 5ghz band and ATT and comcast both have arris chipset based routers, the throughput speed is fine but the ping goes up and it has a intermittent packet throughput or something when i play games it goes from orange to green to orange to green with totally inconsistent ping times, i could only find one thread where i read these phones do not like arris chipsets which kinda sucks because thats all these broadband providers give out. on comcast modems you cant even use the 5ghz band its so bad, on att it works half of the time but the solution i found is to login to the 2.4ghz band, then logout then switch back to the 5ghz band and it seems to work, i know its working properly because my ping times are consistently 25ms when its having a problem its always 45+ms which isnt that huge of a difference but its so strange because clearing the cache does not solve this problem, im on the latest nof27b updated running pure nexus now, so i really wish they could fix this problem, if my router is unplugged and plugged back in it has this problem as well, i hate that i have to do a buncha restarting and logging in, at first i thought my pixel was broken, and i spent upward of 6 hours flashing and reflashing back to stock and rooting etc. anyone else with a similiar problem
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I have a suggestion to your problems, i think this has something to do with this problem that you mentioned, it has a intermittent packet throughput or something when i play games it goes from orange to green to orange to green with totally inconsistent ping times, see this is where the problem is, as you said before, login to the 2.4ghz band, then logout then switch back to the 5ghz band and it seems to work, but wait i have a suggestion login to the 2.4ghz band, then logout then switch back to the 5ghz band and it seems to work, and so do i, and i spent upward of 6 hours flashing on comcast modems you cant even use the 5ghz band its so bad, i hate that i have to do a buncha restarting and logging in with totally inconsistent ping times, wonky on 5ghz band and ATT and comcast both have arris chipset based routers, anyone else with a similiar problem, ne thread where i read these phones do not like arris chipsets which kinda sucks because thats all these broadband providers give out. on comcast modems you cant even use the 5ghz band its so bad, on att it works half of the time but the solution i found is to login to the 2.4ghz band, then logout then switch back to the 5ghz band and it seems to work, i know its working properly because my ping times are consistently 25ms when its having a problem its always 45+ms , the ping goes up and it has a intermittent packet throughput or something when i play games it goes from orange to green to orange to green with totally inconsistent ping times, i could only find one thread where i read these phones do not like arris chipsets which kinda sucks because thats all these broadband providers give out. on comcast modems you cant even use the 5ghz band its so bad, on att it works half of the time but the solution i found is to login to the 2.4ghz band, then logout then switch back to the 5ghz band and it seems to work, i know its working properly because my ping times are consistently 25ms.
Does this help?
Here
Example...See all the ping times around the 25ms range then after all night it jumps to the 40s for some reason In the morning and network toggle doesn't seem to help now switching networks...
this is getting annoying cant seem to fix this and it seems to happen if the phone sits around idle for a while
You'll probably need to get your own WiFi router to plug into the cable modem. That was the only solution of us when we were in an apartment 2 years ago where they supplied ATT Uverse. WiFi was practically unusable. Plugged my router in and we connected to that with zero issues. Phones and computers.
aspexil said:
You'll probably need to get your own WiFi router to plug into the cable modem. That was the only solution of us when we were in an apartment 2 years ago where they supplied ATT Uverse. WiFi was practically unusable. Plugged my router in and we connected to that with zero issues. Phones and computers.
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ok so it is probably ATT shoddy equipment then, i figured as much
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ok so it is probably ATT shoddy equipment then, i figured as much
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Keep your fingers crossed the cable modem connection is good. If there are any issues in their network you may find that plugging your own router in won't work. I'd buy one from someplace you know you can take it back for a refund if it doesn't solve your problems. At least in our situation it was their crappy wifi router that wasn't good and the network itself was okay.
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Keep your fingers crossed the cable modem connection is good. If there are any issues in their network you may find that plugging your own router in won't work. I'd buy one from someplace you know you can take it back for a refund if it doesn't solve your problems. At least in our situation it was their crappy wifi router that wasn't good and the network itself was okay.
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network is fine, pretty sure its this crappy router as it has zero customisations whats weird though is it only disagrees with the pixel xl sometimes i dont understand it, ive had to reset it before and then it works fine.
This problem is getting annoying, it pops up no matter what factory image i flash, and if i shut off my wifi and then immediately turn it back on it happens, is anyone else having problems like this on their wifi i hate to feel like something is hardware broken on my pixel i dont wanna return it to verizon and get a bootloader locked one, this is on a completely stock reflash nmf207b Using an ATT gateway 5268AC, throughput speeds are fine but this ping consistency is annoying. What controls the wifi in these, which driver or radio or image. 5ghz AC band on a dual band
Hey guys.
Purchased it today,and just like every damn Samsung phone and tablet they still haven't fixed wifi strength signal with even such expensive phone.
So I was out of town and from like 7 wifi signals,only 2 were recognized.
And even when it connects the signal is so weak and it often drops.
Now I'm in my room now and like 3 feet away from router and I'm getting around 6.7 MBps speed instead of between 9-10 just like on my good old S7 edge.
I can't believe.
So is it my phone or others have the same issues?
I have never had a single issue regarding wifi signal strenght, I got my note 10+ since Sept 2019
So I came today in city park,sit on bench and turned ON WiFi on this phone.
Damn,it couldn't find nor any fi..ing single network over WiFi.
I rebooted it like 5 times and then it found one network and barely connected to it with very low signal,but in a matter of minutes it droped.
I had near me,Ulefone 5S which is 200 euros phone and it had better WiFi signal and found at least 5 networks,although with very weak signal,but Samsung couldn't find nor one WiFi network.
Because I purchased used phone ofc I can't return it or RMA it.
Am I the only one with this issue,and how do I resolve it?
But if I'm like in a caffee where is near router the signal is okay,but when I'm outdoors I have this issue,means far away from caffee routers.
Ok I did test outdoors compared with S7 edge.
Do you notice any difference,in terms that N10+ has some issues:
So there is one place in city,where there are lots ofi wifi networks but all of them have weak signal.
So I turned ON the phone and WiFi and it didn't find nor any single network,I turned off wifi on again nothing.
Here is the picture of that issue.
I also can not find what model of wifi card is in my phone,to check if it was replaced,so I'm suspicious about that.
Btw I don't have any wifi issues when I am on local coffee shops/bars nor at home.
Just at places where like wifi signal is weak and like there are many networks at that place.
So what is this issue about.
I just went to my balcony and simply this phone doesn't detect as many networks as some chinese phone,N10+ detected just 8 and chinese phone 13.
Then all of the sudden phone goes crazy in like 5-10 min and detects like 12 network.
And though signal strength is nearly the same between phones,I'm getting even 10 % lost in download when I do speed test and compare 2 phones.
so third video,compared to my tablet and s7 edge.
and I will post pics.
Correct me if I am wrong but on tablet and on the phone on the right yeah I see more network recognized but those have weak signal...
N10+ obviously doesn't list those networks for some reason (with weak/no signal).
so third video,compared to my tablet and s7 edge.
and I will post pics.
Correct me if I am wrong but on tablet and on the phone on the right yeah I see more network recognized but those have weak signal...
N10+ obviously doesn't list those networks for some reason (with weak/no signal).
and pics...
As you do clearly see on picture N10+ is screwed up recognizing only one wifi network,and my Ulefone Power 5S many...so what is happening I dunno.
Even S7 edge beats it.
I had the same experience on my black note 10+ (4G black model), it would drop the wifi quite often during video playback while my Mate 30 Pro would just continue on the same network. That improved after I reset the network settings and cleared the system cache. I had/have a far more stable connection after that. As for the speed, the Mate 30 Pro would always achieve higher speeds than the note 10 +, no matter how many times I did the tests on both devices. As for the amount of networks it shows, my current note 10+ ( a 4G model but a white one) does only display 1 network at home while the Mate 30 Pro shows 5 or 6 different networks but all of them with a very weak signal strength. Besides them all being password protected I doubt if the Huawei would be able to connect with any of these so whats the point of showing all these weak networks. Maybe that's the reason the note 10 does not show them? Maybe the are filtered?
Both the black and the white are showing similar behavior, I have them both side by side and both are showing the same (single) network being available.
No problem with wifi with my Note 10+ N975F/DS, Good and stable connections.
I do confirm that in the wifi settings only stronger networks are displayed. When using app like WiFi Analyser I can see that there are more networks detected on the Note 10+ than shown in the wifi settings.
I do observe that wifi speeds on Note 10+ are lower than those provided by my Note 8, comparing/measuring side by side on same wifi network.
But in daily use the Note 10+ has sufficient wifi stability and -speed for my normal use, (matching the speed of my Internet connection of 100Mb) including streaming of HD-Video. I do not play online videogames.
Yep for some reason my Note 10+ doesn't show networks with bad wifi signal,dunno if it's just my model or you experience the same.
But for phone such expensive this is unforgivable.
Look here guys,it does recognize wifi networks with wifi analyzer but doesn't filtrate them so I can connect to them,same happens with my S5e tablet.
That's what I already stated...
You can however connect to wifi-networks detected in WiFi Analyzer (WA) by installing a plug-in (just click on the network in WA, it will prompt you what to install..)
OnnoJ said:
That's what I already stated...
You can however connect to wifi-networks detected in WiFi Analyzer (WA) by installing a plug-in (just click on the network in WA, it will prompt you what to install..)
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Nothing is happening when I click on network.
You need a new director for your videos.