Is there a way that I can do a full backup of all apps (including work profile) prior to unlocking the bootloader and the subsiquent factory reset?
I've done an ADB backup, but from what I've been reading it likely did not backup all apps.
Some of the apps that I've looked at are:
Helium - mixed reviews, does not look to backup all apps
G Cloud Backup - seems to not backup apps
Super Backup - requires root
I have no issue paying for a way to get a full device backup, but the options seem limited without root
Sorry. Not possible without root. You can do apps but not apps and data.
westhaking said:
Sorry. Not possible without root. You can do apps but not apps and data.
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Damn I had a feeling that would be the case
Just to add to what @westhaking said, Google Cloud backup is useful, it does backup a "list" of the apps you have installed from the Play Store, and will offer to re-install those when you start fresh, and the apps from the Play Store that utilize Google's backup feature will have their data backed up and restored as well. More and more apps appear to support that, but definitely not all, and possibly not even most, so you can blame those app developers for not implementing that.
But yeah, no other choice is available. I've tried the non-root/ADB backup apps/method and it just doesn't backup app data that I experienced, even though they lead you to believe they do. Or perhaps it just doesn't restore the data.
Secure apps like for banking, of course, can't have their data backed up without root, and I normally don't restore app data for those either since I believe some or all banking apps won't work correctly with restored data, but I could be wrong.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Just to add to what @westhaking said, Google Cloud backup is useful, it does backup a "list" of the apps you have installed from the Play Store, and will offer to re-install those when you start fresh, and the apps from the Play Store that utilize Google's backup feature will have their data backed up and restored as well.
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But yeah, no other choice is available. I've tried the non-root/ADB backup apps/method and it just doesn't backup app data that I experienced, even though they lead you to believe they do. Or perhaps it just doesn't restore the data.
Secure apps like for banking, of course, can't have their data backed up without root, and I normally don't restore app data for those either since I believe some or all banking apps won't work correctly with restored data, but I could be wrong.
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You are correct here. I recently started using the Google One backup feature and it makes manually wiping, updating and restoring the data to my phone with each and every A13 beta release a complete breeze (especially since new variants of those updates have been popping up every other week recently as A13's official release is getting very close).
I was surprised by that specific backup feature backing up more of my app's data than I had anticipated. It didn't backup the app data for things that store the data on a separate user account (or contain said user accounts). Some examples would be eBay, Outlook, Chase Bank, etc. But luckily, for eBay, I just click "Logon with Google" and it logs me right in and is back to how it was previously. Outlook requires me to manually attach my email accounts again - which I imagine is due to potential privacy concerns in case there was a data breach and your Google account was hacked or something. Other apps - such as banking apps - I figure don't backup the credentials as it could pose a huge risk. But, the weird thing here was that Venmo actually took a full data backup and had logged me back in automatically once the app was restored...
So long story short, the Google One backup feature does quite well and seems to backup more app data than I had anticipated. And the best part is that it doesn't require an unlocked bootloader or root! I believe that it does, however, require you to pay for an annual Google One subscription (depending on how much space you have available on your Google account's Google Drive).
*Edit* - To comment on what @roirraW "edor" ehT mentioned regarding the possibility of restoring app data for banking apps possibly causing them to not work correctly; this is true for some apps (even if they are not banking apps). But, I have only noticed this causing a potential issue if you are restoring the apps and their data on a different model phone from the one that the apps and their data were backed up from. The first time that I had noticed this issue was when a family member had a OnePlus phone that was compatible with the Google Phone app that was listed on the Play Store for phones aside from Google's Pixel lineup. They backed up that app and its data and then restored it on their Pixel 6 Pro once I had convinced them to upgrade. In the end, they didn't get the app's Visual Voicemail feature due to the app (or its data) causing a weird mixup that prevented the Phone app from getting any of the Pixel exclusive features. This was resolved with a full wipe and reinstallation without restoring apps or data (until a new backup was taken once everything was working correctly).
*Edit 2.0* - My apologies for writing something that looks as lengthy as the second bible might be with this post...
NippleSauce said:
So long story short, the Google One backup feature does quite well and seems to backup more app data than I had anticipated. And the best part is that it doesn't require an unlocked bootloader or root! I believe that it does, however, require you to pay for an annual Google One subscription (depending on how much space you have available on your Google account's Google Drive).
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Interesting about Venmo! Although I do pay for Google as of late last year when I pre-ordered the P6P, I didn't use to and Google had started backing up app data way back when I was on the Pixel 1 in 2016, and restoring apps and app data was smooth and easy, so as you said, as long as you have enough space in your Google Drive, otherwise you have to pay for more for this to work.
The only thing Google has done about the restore process that I don't like is that it's sorta hidden in the first setup. You have to decline to use the cable method (which doesn't work as well IMHO) before you are made aware there's still the option to restore from Google's cloud backup.
I don't know if they've changed the backup or restore functionality any from what's available for a free Google account. I know I have a Google One app, and it shows backup status in there, or I can fine-tune (only slightly) what gets backed up automatically, but I think the app is just an optional front-end for paying members, and not necessary for free members because the backup function is built into Android.
Hopefully, they haven't made it pay-only. I think that would be foolish, as since it's using your Drive space, if anything, it just makes it more likely someone will pay for extra storage eventually.
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The only thing Google has done about the restore process that I don't like is that it's sorta hidden in the first setup. You have to decline to use the cable method (which doesn't work as well IMHO) before you are made aware there's still the option to restore from Google's cloud backup.
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YES! This is why I have only just started using it! I bought the 200GB Drive storage package for more cloud based Photos storage! But I hadn't noticed the ability to restore from the Google Drive backups until about three weeks ago LOL!
Hi !
I've purchased the 200gb for Google photos like you but haven't figured out how to backup all my apps and their data.
Been searching in the Google one app and drive but didn't find the options, I'm seeing 2/3 of my apps backed up but some aren't such as my bank apps etc.. Could you share the steps on how you backed all them all please ?
Edit : I actually have the 100gb offer, might be the reason ?
Cheers !
5t4rC0m1337 said:
Hi !
I've purchased the 200gb for Google photos like you but haven't figured out how to backup all my apps and their data.
Been searching in the Google one app and drive but didn't find the options, I'm seeing 2/3 of my apps backed up but some aren't such as my bank apps etc.. Could you share the steps on how you backed all them all please ?
Edit : I actually have the 100gb offer, might be the reason ?
Cheers !
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Sure thing - but I don't think that the banking app data can be backed up due to security concerns. The app itself should be backed up and can be restored from said backup, however, your login details will not be backed up.
On your phone, navigate to:
Settings>>System>>Backup
Then, you'll have the option to enable "Backup by Google One" with a slider. Just below that slider is an option to make an updated backup: "Back up now".
Good luck and happy 4th if you're from the US.
If you're not, then have a happy Monday =).
Thank you !
I'll keep using Titanium Backup along then !
Happy 4th too !
5t4rC0m1337 said:
Hi !
I've purchased the 200gb for Google photos like you but haven't figured out how to backup all my apps and their data.
Been searching in the Google one app and drive but didn't find the options, I'm seeing 2/3 of my apps backed up but some aren't such as my bank apps etc.. Could you share the steps on how you backed all them all please ?
Edit : I actually have the 100gb offer, might be the reason ?
Cheers !
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To clarify, Google doesn't "backup" your apps - just the list of the apps that you have installed. And then it does backup app data, but only for the apps that the developer of the app has integrated Google's method, and as @NippleSauce said, it's likely all banking apps would never integrate Google's backup solution even though it "should" be secure, banks are (understandably) really, really protective - hence why normally banking apps don't even allow screenshots.
When using Google's method to restore your backup from the cloud, it'll install every single app that came from the Play Store - banking apps included - it will only install app data for the apps that has been enabled on by the developer.
100 GB shouldn't limit your backups - that's plenty for app data. For most people, at least those who aren't entrenched deeper into the Google system, the default-free Google plan of 15 GB should be enough too.
Makes sense, thanks sir for the clarity !
Bests,
Kevin
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Hey guys,
I'm hoping someone can help me out here because it's driving me insane. I have a rooted Desire and have previously bought several apps from the Market (Locale, Twidroyd, etc.). I have Titanium Backup, which I've been using to back up my apps and settings (only for downloaded apps, not for any system apps).
I recently decided to try out a MIUI ROM and after having a play about with it, I decided to go back to a Sense-based ROM (LeeDroid 2.2f if that's relevant). I used Titanium Backup to restore my apps but have found that my paid-for apps from the Market are no longer authorized. If I uninstall them I'm finding that I have to re-purchase the apps rather than being able to re-download them as I cold previously.
I'm using exactly the same Google account as before and I've already tried clearing the Market app's data and cache in the Settings app.
I'm at a total loss as to why the apps can't be authorised! Any ideas about what else I can try?
In Titanium,
Long press the app, and when the menu selection comes out, press "attach it to market"... or something to that extent. I can't remember the exact name for the option.
Thanks for the suggestion, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. The apps were all already attached to the Market correctly. Unattaching them and reattaching them in Titanium didn't seem to make a difference.
I've tried wiping data/cache and reflashing the ROM but no luck there either. I've also tried going in to the Market and going to the page for Locale straight after configuring my Google account, before restoring the backup in Titanium but it still says that I have to purchase the app
Ok have managed to find a solution, but it's a bit convoluted. I use 3 Google accounts in total on my phone: 2 x Google Apps accounts and 1 x Gmail account.
The Market only supports Gmail accounts for buying paid apps; if you access the Market using a Google Apps account and attempt to purchase something, you are prompted to add a Gmail account and the purchase is made against that account. Due to the purchases being made against my Gmail account, it was this account that I was entering first after doing the factory reset and then going into the Market to accept the T&C's.
However, it appears that if you initially entered a Google Apps account when you first got the phone, you have to keep entering this account first after factory resets, even though the purchases are made against a different account! Clear as mud, right?
Oh boy, that is a doozy.
Wouldn't it be better to streamline your accounts?
Hehehe yeah I guess so I'd rather just have the 2 Google Apps accounts (one is for work, the other is personal)
Before you flame, I have searched the forums but haven't found a post within the last 6 months that definitively answers the question, so maybe something may have changed.
I'm looking for a way to transfer purchases from one google account to another. I got my phone while in college and used my Google Apps account from school (<EMAIL1>@mst.edu). It wouldn't let me use that account for google checkout so I had to add <EMAIL2>@gmail.com to purchase apps. This seems to work fine and when I go into google checkout and log in with EMAIL2, I see my purchases.
Now come the issues. If I try to switch to EMAIL2 only on my Evo 4G (software reset), I can pull mail but not app purchases.
The reason I want to stop using my google apps account is that a lot of google services seem to be sketchy with integration, IE Google Reader, Music, and Plus all work great on a PC but from the android phone, no dice.
I'd like to figure out a way to migrate my app purchases to [email protected] And use it for all of my email and other services to get away from my 'professional email account' EMAIL2 and my google apps account EMAIL1.
so just a review:
[email protected] - Google Apps account from college, application integration poor
[email protected] - "professional email", don't want social media services integrated with this. used only for resumes, etc
[email protected] - personal email that I want to use for everything.
My only solution so far seems to be spending $50 to purchase all of the apps again that I use REGULARLY or ~$120 for all of my app purchases total.
Anyone ideas?
Its worth a shot, but have you tried downloading / having all the apps you want, then use titanium to move to the sdcard, the sign on on email3, then restore? It may not fix the 'licensing' issue, but you should be able to use them still. Also, you can try [maybe from a pc] log onto google, and see if you can go into account management, then change your android email account, or call/email their tech support and have them manually change it.
Titanium backup is moot until a new root is released. my Evo was overheating and bootlooping so I just got a refurb preloaded with 2.3.3 .
As of a couple months ago, Google tech support says no. It could've changed since then, you'll need to check with Google though.
There are non-root backup apps, but if the apps are protected then I don't believe they'll be able to back them up. And if the apps have a license check in place that renders the app useless, then you're SOL. I get licensing errors with restoring with Titanium Backup, so you're bound to come across the same problem. I'm glad that apps use license checks though, it cuts back on pirating.
Anyone know how to solve this? Sent my phone to HTC to get repaired. Got it back, logged into gmail iva the phone and only one of my apps is being restored. Only "mybackup" comes up as restored. Nothing else is showing.
I have my apps backed up on mybackup as well as my data but why isn't gmail doing it?
If i restore apps via "mybackup" then they do not show up in the market so i don't want to do it that way. Is there anything else i can do? I logged into the android market via my laptop and it had a list of about 15 of the apps i had but not even close to all of them.
Any advice appreciated. I thought this would be a simple process but evidently it doesn't seem like it.
Edit: Just been back to the a android website via my laptop and none of my apps are listed there anymore. Only the one that restored itself and the stock apps... Great. So i'm screwed now i take it?
I'm not sure about reinstalling from market. As far as I remember it didn't worked well for me either. If you have rooted phone you can use Titanium backup which will backup not only apps but the data too. So, if you set high score in a game or you set up some app to your preferances you will have them all back.
To backup up only apps for later reinstalling I use Astro file manager : https://market.android.com/details?id=com.metago.astro. With Astro you can backup all your apps for later installing after performing factory reset.
I already backed my apps using Astro and mybackup, however im pissed off that googles own inbuilt system won't restore my apps despite suggesting that it would. Plus anything i restore with Astro and mybackup will not show up in the market. Haven't got a choice now i guess.
They also ruined my contacts backup as well while we are at it. I saved my contacts to gmail a few weeks back, came back today and none of them are my contacts, they are however, half of the people i follow on twitter. Neither gmail or twitter are linked to each other so how the hell did gmail manage to get into my twitter account and then replace my saved contacts list with people i follow on twitter. What farce this all is.
I have that backed up in 2/3 places thankfully but what kind of service is this from google? Its worked fine in the past but the one time i need it, everything goes wrong.
When I'm signed into my google account online and go to the playstore, it shows that certain apps are installed on my device. This is not accurate though.
Is there a way to delete all apps that I've ever installed from my account? I don't mind if I have to start over, thought I rather now create a new gmail account.
Any thoughts on this as I'm pretty puzzled.
And any old phone that I owned I factory reset before I sold.
Thank you
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When I'm signed into my google account online and go to the playstore, it shows that certain apps are installed on my device. This is not accurate though.
Is there a way to delete all apps that I've ever installed from my account? I don't mind if I have to start over, thought I rather now create a new gmail account.
Any thoughts on this as I'm pretty puzzled.
And any old phone that I owned I factory reset before I sold.
Thank you
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Check which apps are shown as installed but not on your app drawer. This is most likely you have disabled (frozen) the app. Go to your application manager and see if they are there or not.
You can remove all apps, but I don't think there's a 1-click way to do it. You can either uninstall them 1 by 1 or start from scratch (factory reset) and uncheck backup/restore in settings.
Thanks for the tip. This still doesn't help. What I did was go into my Play Store, delete every app that was just sitting there, apps that I had previously downloaded before on previous phones. I then restarted my phone, go back into the app store on a computer that I never downloaded anything on and it still shows that these apps are installed on my device, without the option to uninstall on the web on the computer.
I'd like to think I'm tech savvy but this one has me scratching my head.
well playstore does not have a feature to remove it from your account directly.
cnet had an article on it and it should have updated after you deleted the history of those apps . unless google changed something again.
http://www.cnet.com/how-to/delete-downloaded-app-history-from-google-play/
Yeah that method no longer works.
Are there any viable thorough backup solutions that don't require root?
My fold is dying (sound has completely stopped working, large screen is just black, no warranty as the seller from facebook marketplace failed to provide a receipt) and I want to move absolutely everything over to my new phone of the same model.
Is there a way to backup and restore all of the following?
- settings and accounts, homescreen layout and widgets
- apps and app data (including apps installed directly through apk file or outside of play store)
- SMS
- entire contents of internalSD
I know I can do all of these tasks individually and manually, I was just wondering if there
was an app for android that can do all of the above in one go? Every backup solution I've attempted
always seem to leave me having to setup a few things manually afterwards.
I've tried Samsung Smart Switch but it seems to leave out quite a few apps and app data.
Cloud backup probably isn't feasible as I have over 400gb of data on the phone.
Can I somehow clone one phone to the other?