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Any way to disable rapid charging?
I have a generic USB extender and used it to extend my charger cable by a couple of feet. When the phone showed "full charge in 5 hours" I realized it's making the charge speed extremely slow. The USB cable is a regular sized USB male on one end while the other end is a regular sized USB female. You could use that to slow down your charging to about the speed you'd get by charging from a USB 2.0 connector on any PC/laptop.
One the same note will using a standard charger from other cell phones (that I have like 300 of) and the cable that came with phone cause any problems or just charge slow. I travel a lot and have several USB devices I bring and don't want to bring multiple chargers if I don't need to.
Thanks.
It will just charge slow.
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One the same note will using a standard charger from other cell phones (that I have like 300 of) and the cable that came with phone cause any problems or just charge slow. I travel a lot and have several USB devices I bring and don't want to bring multiple chargers if I don't need to.
Thanks.
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You need a compatible charger for it to fast charge. Using a regular charger wouldn't put it in that mode. I wanted to know if there was an option to turn it off with a compatible charger.
Why do you want to turn it off.
I could swear I saw something in the framework to disable fast charging but I'm not 100% sure.
I'll try to remember to keep an eye out for it after the December updates drop from Google and I have to redo my framework mods.
As far as options in the GUI go, I don't recall ever seeing any option to disable fast charging.
To answer another question, someone may want to disable fast charging to ensure their battery lasts longer (short term + long term). Or to prevent overheating when charging in the sun. And other reasons too.
You could always buy a MicroUSB to USB-C adapter. Or the phone may have come with one too now that I think about it.
Then use an older MicroUSB charger to charge your phone.
Charging via computer is only like 500mAH compared vs. 2000+mAH charging from the stock charger.
Count me amongst the club who would prefer to slow-charge my phone overnight at least.
And possibly slow my car charger down to maybe just 1000mAH to prevent overheating while the phone is docked underneath my windshield under the hot sun.
Lots of questions here...
G7 comes with QC 3.0 although the chipset can support QC 4.0 as per Qualcomm. I see on other forums that users can tell when their phone is quick-charging or slow-charging.
1) Does the G7 let you know what speed it is charging at? I'd like to know so I can swap out cables, chargers, Qi pad, to get the fastest charging rate.
2) Is there a difference between Samsung's Fast Charging, and Qualcomm's QC 3.0?
3) If a charger says that it is compatible with Samsung S9's or S9+'s fast charging, will it fast charge the G7?
4) is there a QC Qi pad that is compatible with our QC 3.0 phone? If so, can I assume that I would still need to power it with a QC 3.0 wall wart?
5) Will a USB-PD or USB-IF charger quick charge our phones?
6) What is the minimum QC cable type (USB 2.0, 3.0, or 3.1) needed to get the maximum QC 3.0 charge? Does it have to be a 3.1 cable?
7) I've seen that when I put the G7 on my 1st gen Qi pad (5W micro-USB) that the phone screen lights up, and a circle briefly appears with the charged percentage in the center (while phone is on stand-by). If the phone is unlocked and the display is on, a white window telling me it is wirelessly charging shows up and tells me how long until the phone will be fully charged (again, when placed on a Qi pad). It's currently telling me 19 minutes to full charge from 93%. Is there a way to get this remaining-time info while cable-charging through the USB-C port?
Thanks!
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Lots of questions here...
G7 comes with QC 3.0 although the chipset can support QC 4.0 as per Qualcomm. I see on other forums that users can tell when their phone is quick-charging or slow-charging.
1) Does the G7 let you know what speed it is charging at? I'd like to know so I can swap out cables, chargers, Qi pad, to get the fastest charging rate.
2) Is there a difference between Samsung's Fast Charging, and Qualcomm's QC 3.0?
3) If a charger says that it is compatible with Samsung S9's or S9+'s fast charging, will it fast charge the G7?
4) is there a QC Qi pad that is compatible with our QC 3.0 phone? If so, can I assume that I would still need to power it with a QC 3.0 wall wart?
5) Will a USB-PD or USB-IF charger quick charge our phones?
6) What is the minimum QC cable type (USB 2.0, 3.0, or 3.1) needed to get the maximum QC 3.0 charge? Does it have to be a 3.1 cable?
7) I've seen that when I put the G7 on my 1st gen Qi pad (5W micro-USB) that the phone screen lights up, and a circle briefly appears with the charged percentage in the center (while phone is on stand-by). If the phone is unlocked and the display is on, a white window telling me it is wirelessly charging shows up and tells me how long until the phone will be fully charged (again, when placed on a Qi pad). It's currently telling me 19 minutes to full charge from 93%. Is there a way to get this remaining-time info while cable-charging through the USB-C port?
Thanks!
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The charge rate of the phone irrespective of the chargers we use, it is controlled by the stock kernel. When screen is on, it lowers down the amperage (See Ampere App) to keep off the heat, vice versa etc. We need a custom kernel to have the charging amperes to be changed manually which is really cool. If we have a really cool custom kernel, the CPU governors should preset customisable governors (for smooth performance) and for the charge values, just look for a 3A charger, with the Kernel Adiutor change the values. Meaning the benefits of rooting gives us the complete freedom of our Android! If a 4A charger is detected by the kernel manager app, the charge values should show as "upto 4A even with the screen on! Then no need to be jealous of Dash Charging of One Plus!
I think this article will help you out... Breaks it all down... Samsung charger are not the greatest for fast charging but works better than a basic one... Ultimately I would say USB c to USB c with USB PD is your fastest with QC 3.0/4.0 being a close second..
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-does-fast-charging-work/
I don't see that wireless fast charging is b supported by the g7 ... That's a Samsung gimmick ... But the Qi standard chargers charge at the same rate as a basic charger... The lock screen always tells you how long until full no matter what charger you are using and it will say fast charging, wireless or just charging... My observations have been around 1.5 hour for 60 percent to full so about 5 hours if dead, great before going to sleep and I missed it in my least few phones
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I think this article will help you out... Breaks it all down... Samsung charger are not the greatest for fast charging but works better than a basic one... Ultimately I would say USB c to USB c with USB PD is your fastest with QC 3.0/4.0 being a close second..
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-does-fast-charging-work/
I don't see that wireless fast charging is b supported by the g7 ... That's a Samsung gimmick ... But the Qi standard chargers charge at the same rate as a basic charger... The lock screen always tells you how long until full no matter what charger you are using and it will say fast charging, wireless or just charging... My observations have been around 1.5 hour for 60 percent to full so about 5 hours if dead, great before going to sleep and I missed it in my least few phones
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Thanks! I noticed you do not have a G7 listed as a current phone in your signature. Is your answer above based upon your experience with Samsung phones and their charging system, or specifically with the G7 (or other QC 3.0 phones)?
I hadn't notice the charging speed on the lock screen, as I have the phone set to basically bypass it all the time (fingerprint, facial recognition, & geo-fence)...so I didn't even know it was listed there on the bottom. Thanks again...now I know it's there
Strange thing is I went through a bunch of permutations with cables (various generations), and charge blocks and Qi pads this morning, and with the phone starting at 93% charged, it made no difference in remaining charge time no matter what combination of the items I hooked up. I saw the standard "charging" memo with some combos, and the "fast charging" one too, with others. Can I assume that even though the phone might say it's fast charging, it ramps the speed/power level up and down as necessary due to the current state of charge, or heat or some other factors? Would it also possibly switch into fast-charging with more power if the phone was starting at a lower state of charge, or possibly cooler?Yes, I'll have to read the link above as it's probably covered there
"Fast Wireless Charging" is supported and working.
I have a RavPower 15w and 3 umdigi 15w qi wireless pads that all say wirelessly fast charging when connected. Needs an 18w QC2-3 charger for the input voltage ranges needed to work.
It is noticeably faster than a 10w qi pad and only slightly slower than QC 3.0 USB average charge.
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"Fast Wireless Charging" is supported and working.
I have a RavPower 15w and 3 umdigi 15w qi wireless pads that all say wirelessly fast charging when connected. Needs an 18w QC2-3 charger for the input voltage ranges needed to work.
It is noticeably faster than a 10w qi pad and only slightly slower than QC 3.0 USB average charge.
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Of the 2 Qi pads you mention, any preferences towards one or the other (or a different one altogether)? I have an Anker QC 3.0 charger I can connect up to it.
BTW.. I cannot locate a 15W Ravpower pad. What model is it? And is the Umdigi a model Q1?
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Thanks! I noticed you do not have a G7 listed as a current phone in your signature. Is your answer above based upon your experience with Samsung phones and their charging system, or specifically with the G7 (or other QC 3.0 phones)?
I hadn't notice the charging speed on the lock screen, as I have the phone set to basically bypass it all the time (fingerprint, facial recognition, & geo-fence)...so I didn't even know it was listed there on the bottom. Thanks again...now I know it's there
Strange thing is I went through a bunch of permutations with cables (various generations), and charge blocks and Qi pads this morning, and with the phone starting at 93% charged, it made no difference in remaining charge time no matter what combination of the items I hooked up. I saw the standard "charging" memo with some combos, and the "fast charging" one too, with others. Can I assume that even though the phone might say it's fast charging, it ramps the speed/power level up and down as necessary due to the current state of charge, or heat or some other factors? Would it also possibly switch into fast-charging with more power if the phone was starting at a lower state of charge, or possibly cooler?Yes, I'll have to read the link above as it's probably covered there
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My pixel screen went bad and the charging port went bad also... Just got the g7 so I haven't changed my signature or updated my devices...
Samsung Fast charge is basically qc2 ... And standard USB A to C do not support the higher current that USB C to C does... I notice fastest charging with my pixel USB PD charger...
And yes you won't notice as much fast charging from the top 20 percent of the battery to prevent over charging...
for me, from 25% of charge, the fast charge advertisement says 1 hour and 20 minutes (charge fast???????).... if i use a normal charger (not fast), the time goes to 1 hour and 31 minutes. this phone has a charge fast but very low fast
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Of the 2 Qi pads you mention, any preferences towards one or the other (or a different one altogether)? I have an Anker QC 3.0 charger I can connect up to it.
BTW.. I cannot locate a 15W Ravpower pad. What model is it? And is the Umdigi a model Q1?
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I know it's hard from a specs perspective as most are only 75% efficient so the 10w might only be 7.5w and 15w is actually 10w, which is why LG customer services expressly states you must use a 15w QI charger for fast wireless charging. Another problem is the specs aren't always accurate and updated devices might still have old specs listed. I tried a bunch before I found a couple I liked. The mophie streampad+ also does fast wireless charging but is listed as 10w.
The RavPower is a standup charger I use in the office, the other UmDigi chargers I have scattered around the house and in the bedroom.
RavPower: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079C1QLCR
UmDigi: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DJ56LT5
Did a little charge test from 50 percent
Wireless charger =1h 40m
Stock iPhone charger =1h 14m
Both pixel USB C to C and stock fast charger =1h 2m
I'm in the market for a qi charger that can fast charge my Thinq g7. I see reports of needing 15W but not seeing many out there that have that spec.
I have seen a RavPower one posted here that is said to do it but the price is quite high for that model. Does anyone else have experience with fast charging the thinq g7 with a Qi charger?
I have Samsung Fast wireless charger. This present with S7. Fast charging battery of S7 Edge, S9+. But G7 didn't support fast wireless charging. And charging is slow. So you can buy what you want but charging with this phone will be slow.
I read this topic and wondering how G7 is going to wireless fast charge?
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Just thought I'd add to this - the charger that comes with the LG G7 ThinQ (Verizon) is labeled with outputs 9V/1.8A and 5V/1.8A. My old HTC 10 charger is labeled 12V/1.25A, 9V/1.7A, 5V/2.5A. I haven't tried it on the HTC 10's charger on a measuring device to see actual power delivery, but at least on the face of it, if it supports those higher voltages and/or amps, you should be able to get faster charging than with the charger out of the box.
On the other hand, faster charging may in part be why the HTC 10's battery lifetime is dismal, and not once have I thought "boy I wish my G7 would charge faster".
Anyone tried qc4.0 ?
According to some sites ThinQ is capable of 27W (9x3) charging. I therefore purchased a Xiaomi 65W charger which outputs 9x3 but the phone charges only with 15W (5x3) so wasted money.
Yes. I bought 3 different chargers and also a watt meter. When charging with screen on max amps is 1A and 6-8wattage. When screen is off it goes up to max 16watt. And it doesnt matter which charger i use.
80min for a full chsrge isnt that good. But think that lg g7 released in 2018?
Vivos IC00 something charges full in 20min. 4000mAh.
Im sick of "..reduced charging speed cause it can in a long term reduce battery......" who gives..? Then if you notice a different is gonna take 3 years and if still got same phone. Switch battery.
Look at Tesla batteries whos battery lost like 10 percent after 30000 km. I mean..come on
Im on 72% now and it says 45min to full.
A specialised site reported it would charge at 27W (9V x 3A) but this is simply not true. The best it can charge is 15W (5V x 3A). Thats it.
Guys, I bought this Wireless Charger Pad Slim EP-P1100T, to use on my Note 10 Plus, the information says it has a fast charge, but when I put my device on it, fast charge information does not appear even though it is enabled on the cell phone, is it really so? Android 10 does not show the message?
I think you should use Quick charge 3.0 charging head not the samsung 25w head with it , anyway even if you use the suitable charger with it Note 10 plus automatically shut off fast wireless charging when using slim pad for more that 20% of fast charging because of heat issues since slim charging pads don't have cooling fans and they heat up very quickly
I have one of these also, the only fast charger that enables fast charge with that wireless charger is my old Note 9 charger, it provides the 18w QC2.0 the wireless charger needs.
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I have one of these also, the only fast charger that enables fast charge with that wireless charger is my old Note 9 charger, it provides the 18w QC2.0 the wireless charger needs.
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I'm using the charger that came with Note 10 + ...
Is that why the phone doesn't charge fast charge with the pad?
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I'm using the charger that came with Note 10 + ...
Is that why the phone doesn't charge fast charge with the pad?
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Yes, this charger was designed for the previous generation of phones (S9, Note9 ect) which included a compatible charger. Samsung confirms this here: https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...nes/wireless-charger-pad-slim-ep-p1100bbegww/
Samsung doesn't use Quick Charge technology since it's a Qualcomm only feature and Samsung uses its own chipset which isn't Snapdragon.
Instead, it uses Power Delivery which is a standard and better in all aspects.
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Samsung doesn't use Quick Charge technology since it's a Qualcomm only feature and Samsung uses its own chipset which isn't Snapdragon.
Instead, it uses Power Delivery which is a standard and better in all aspects.
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That's not entirely true, Samsung definitely do sell phones with the Qualcomm Snapdragon SOC and the 15W charging on most of their previous phones (S6, S7, S8 and S9 generations) was QC2.0 or QC2.0 compatible. This is why I am able to fast charge my Exynos Note 9 at full 15W with a QC3.0 charger.
USB Power Delivery is good but it's just another charging protocol, later versions of Qualcomm Quick Charge are also USB-PD compatible.
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That's not entirely true, Samsung definitely do sell phones with the Qualcomm Snapdragon SOC and the 15W charging on most of their previous phones (S6, S7, S8 and S9 generations) was QC2.0 or QC2.0 compatible. This is why I am able to fast charge my Exynos Note 9 at full 15W with a QC3.0 charger.
USB Power Delivery is good but it's just another charging protocol, later versions of Qualcomm Quick Charge are also USB-PD compatible.
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That's right it is, but there's more.
It's not just an other charging protocol, it's an USB standard, that's means all USB ports will have it by default.
Quick charge is proprietary licensed and will be dead soon because there's no use of paying licence for nothing.
And it's not the same at all. Power Delivery is made for dynamically adjusting current intensity and tension depending of the device you plug in and battery level, for them to take only what it needs.
Quick charge isn't, that's why you need dedicated QC ports on chargers.
It's easy for QC to be "compliant" if it shares one similar spec, but it's useless since all next USB ports will use USB-PD.
And that how it worked before, with fast charging, you only had to take in consideration that the output specs and the chargers is equal or higher to the input specs of the battery to get fast charge, but it's risky for the battery.
It may appear silly, but for efficiency and durability, lithium ion battery should not be charged at the same current and intensity at all levels and that's at least one reason why it's important.
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That's right it is, but there's more.
It's not just an other charging protocol, it's an USB standard, that's means all USB ports will have it by default.
Quick charge is proprietary licensed and will be dead soon because there's no use of paying licence for nothing.
And it's not the same at all. Power Delivery is made for dynamically adjusting current intensity and tension depending of the device you plug in and battery level, for them to take only what it needs.
Quick charge isn't, that's why you need dedicated QC ports on chargers.
It's easy for QC to be "compliant" if it shares one similar spec, but it's useless since all next USB ports will use USB-PD.
And that how it worked before, with fast charging, you only had to take in consideration that the output specs and the chargers is equal or higher to the input specs of the battery to get fast charge, but it's risky for the battery.
It may appear silly, but for efficiency and durability, lithium ion battery should not be charged at the same current and intensity at all levels and that's at least one reason why it's important.
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I disagree but there doesn't seem to be any point in telling you that you're wrong.
So I'm having a problem (I think). Until now, I charged my S20ultra with its very fast charger and with my wireless anker (10W model) connected on my usb pc port. While connected on USB port, I know the charge is very slow (takes like 5+ hours from 0 to 100%) since it uses only 5W but I dont mind since it's wireless.
Today I conncted my anker wirless to a normal charger (its the one coming with samsung A51, supports fast charge). I thought that would speed the wireless charge up (since my anker is 10W but on pc usb port it can only use up to 5W), instead its still slow. Using accubattery sometimes i see the actual charge rate rarely go up to 800mA but almost all the time its about 200-400mA. My phone right now is at 54% battery so its not even at the end of a charge (at the end i know it slows the charge up with all chargers), accubattery shows 13%/hour charge which is very slow. Anyone know why this is happening? Why isnt my wireless anker using its full speed?
PS Android says its using wireless rapid charge, so its not like it doesnt recognize it. I also tried removing the cover but doesnt change at all.
Not sure what output your A51 adapter does, but for full 10W output on the Anker wireless charger it must be plugged into an adapter that does 9V-2A output and QC3 compatible.
You can find the output on the wall charger by reading the very small print on it
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Not sure what output your A51 adapter does, but for full 10W output on the Anker wireless charger it must be plugged into an adapter that does 9V-2A output and QC3 compatible.
You can find the output on the wall charger by reading the very small print on it
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Thank you!! Well this might actually be it, the A51 adapter is 5V-2A or 9V-1.67A. I guess this might be the reason then... since you've been so kind and you have exactly the same wireless pad I use, can you please link me your adapter? I was thinking to buy this anker one: https://d2211byn0pk9fi.cloudfront.net/spree/products/57202/product/A2010311_ND06.jpg?1505382537 Has 9V-2A and its QC3 but just to be sure i'd rather go with the one you got since its working. Thanks a lot!
I use a Motorola 27W PD adapter that I had lying around from a previous device but that Anker one you linked should work no problem.
https://www.amazon.ca/Motorola-Turb...ords=motorola+27w+usb+c&qid=1597153564&sr=8-1
Is the one I use
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I use a Motorola 27W PD adapter that I had lying around from a previous device but that Anker one you linked should work no problem.
https://www.amazon.ca/Motorola-Turb...ords=motorola+27w+usb+c&qid=1597153564&sr=8-1
Is the one I use
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Thank you! One last question... do you think the lack of usb-c port might be a problem? I noticed your adapter uses it but my anker pad has a microusb-usb b cable so I cant use an adapter with usb c but just the old normal usb port... was wondering if that might cause problems. I guess you use a usb c-microusb cable to connect your anker to motorola charger right? Thanks!
Not being usb C on the pad shouldn't be an issue, comes down to how much juice the wall adapter pushes out . And yes I use a USB OTG adapter (usb C male to USB A female) to work with that moto charger. I think you should be fine with that Anker charger you linked and then using the cable that came with the pad.
I only use wireless charging over night so I haven't really tested to see charge rate as I just let it go as I sleep, I'll make an effort to watch it sometime to see what actual rates I'm getting.
Hope that helps .
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Not being usb C on the pad shouldn't be an issue, comes down to how much juice the wall adapter pushes out . And yes I use a USB OTG adapter (usb C male to USB A female) to work with that moto charger. I think you should be fine with that Anker charger you linked and then using the cable that came with the pad.
I only use wireless charging over night so I haven't really tested to see charge rate as I just let it go as I sleep, I'll make an effort to watch it sometime to see what actual rates I'm getting.
Hope that helps .
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Thanks man! I just ordered it so tomorrow i'll check how it goes, but i'd love to hear your input as well to compare results, if everything is fine. Thanks again!
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Not being usb C on the pad shouldn't be an issue, comes down to how much juice the wall adapter pushes out . And yes I use a USB OTG adapter (usb C male to USB A female) to work with that moto charger. I think you should be fine with that Anker charger you linked and then using the cable that came with the pad.
I only use wireless charging over night so I haven't really tested to see charge rate as I just let it go as I sleep, I'll make an effort to watch it sometime to see what actual rates I'm getting.
Hope that helps .
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Just an update... i received the charger today, but even with this one so far it doesnt seem to change much, it charges like 12-14% per hour. If possible I'd really love to hear from you if your experience is different, I know its hard since you just leave it to charge during night, but maybe if sometimes you happen to charge it for an hour or so during day would be interesting to see if you have similiar results or a faster charge... thanks again!
This is what I'm seeing, granted I was already charged to 60% before I took this screenshot. Also I have an S20, so smaller batt than its big brothers ..
No charger (wireless or wired) will ever reach their theoretical charge rates ... I know me using an OTG adapter into my PD charger leaks power almost as much as wireless charging itself . Convenience is why I use it though..
I think for the best/fastest Qi charging, we have to get the Samsung official charging docks/pads.
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This is what I'm seeing, granted I was already charged to 60% before I took this screenshot. Also I have an S20, so smaller batt than its big brothers ..
No charger (wireless or wired) will ever reach their theoretical charge rates ... I know me using an OTG adapter into my PD charger leaks power almost as much as wireless charging itself . Convenience is why I use it though..
I think for the best/fastest Qi charging, we have to get the Samsung official charging docks/pads.
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Thank you man... one question, does it stay at around 1100-1200mA all the time? What I noticed is that my phone sometimes goes up to even 1400-1500mA but it stays like that for a very short time, few minutes, then rolls back to 200-400 most of the time (so very slow). If your phone is always charging at least 1000-1100mA then for sure theres something wrong with me, but i read a lot of other people seem to have problems with s20/s20+/s20ultra wireless charging, even with the samsung original 15W charger. Thanks!
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Thank you man... one question, does it stay at around 1100-1200mA all the time? What I noticed is that my phone sometimes goes up to even 1400-1500mA but it stays like that for a very short time, few minutes, then rolls back to 200-400 most of the time (so very slow). If your phone is always charging at least 1000-1100mA then for sure theres something wrong with me, but i read a lot of other people seem to have problems with s20/s20+/s20ultra wireless charging, even with the samsung original 15W charger. Thanks!
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i never see drop below 1000ma, is the low end... again as i charge overnight I'm not sure if it drops past that, but it sounds like you have way slower charging than me..
i still carry my anker pd charger for true fast charging
edit.. is your device snapdragon or exynos? I'm snapdragon
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i never see drop below 1000ma, is the low end... again as i charge overnight I'm not sure if it drops past that, but it sounds like you have way slower charging than me..
i still carry my anker pd charger for true fast charging
edit.. is your device snapdragon or exynos? I'm snapdragon
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Mine is Exynos, and even the 20+ from this other guy having problems with samsung own 15w wireless is exynos. Would be sad if this was just another problem with exynos, not being able to charge it as fast as with SD. You've been very kind, the last thing you could do is maybe sometimes when you charge it, see if accubattery is really always at 1000mA or more, or actually drops by half if not more for you as well sometimes. I'd be happy to even have a steady 700-800mA charge, problem is that its almost always under 500, but for a very short time i DO see it going up to 1400 so it means the power provided can reach the phone, it just doesnt last, i really wonder why.
If you could check once in a while would be really appreciated. Thanks man!
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Mine is Exynos, and even the 20+ from this other guy having problems with samsung own 15w wireless is exynos. Would be sad if this was just another problem with exynos, not being able to charge it as fast as with SD. You've been very kind, the last thing you could do is maybe sometimes when you charge it, see if accubattery is really always at 1000mA or more, or actually drops by half if not more for you as well sometimes. I'd be happy to even have a steady 700-800mA charge, problem is that its almost always under 500, but for a very short time i DO see it going up to 1400 so it means the power provided can reach the phone, it just doesnt last, i really wonder why.
If you could check once in a while would be really appreciated. Thanks man!
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It's been solid @ this rate till ~60% then drops down to 1000-1200 ... haven't seen any spikes or dips, it's pretty consistent. Don't know what to say, it's a bummer that your device seems to have issues with Qi charging. And doubly sucks if it's an issue w/ Exynos devices. Wish there was another person here who could chime in
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It's been solid @ this rate till ~60% then drops down to 1000-1200 ... haven't seen any spikes or dips, it's pretty consistent. Don't know what to say, it's a bummer that your device seems to have issues with Qi charging. And doubly sucks if it's an issue w/ Exynos devices. Wish there was another person here who could chime in
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Seems everything is in order with you. I also wish more people would jump in sharing experiences, sadly it seems not many of us charge it with wireless. Other day I was searching online and on Reddit I found some s20+ exynos user with the samsung 15w wireless original charger with the same problem, there would be almost no difference between that charger and a 5w one. The chances that its both his charger faulty and my s20 ultra as well are very low (beside my s20 with cable and 25w samsung charger goes to full in about an hour, and if it was a problem with wireless it wouldnt charge at all all the time ), so maybe the problem could actually be exynos but who knows... anyway thanks a lot for your help, lets hope someone else jumps in this thread. I was almost rdy to buy the (very expensive) 15w samsung charger but at this point im not even sure its really faster.
Update: just put on the pad to charge, was at 26%, went to 32% and accubattery showed always 1400-1500mA. Now its stuck below 500 again, temperature 36.4C so not even hot to drop. I really am gettin pissed off at this, how is it possible it charges full power for a short time and then drops.
Another update... Anker just replied to my email sent days ago about my problems with the charger, here it is:
"Recently, our various markets have feedback that this S20 cannot achieve fast charging. The specific reason is that our engineers are still testing. Because we did related tests before it was put on the shelves, there was no problem. But now it is confirmed that there is a problem, so we recommend that you do not buy new products for now."
So apparently there is a known problem, altho im not sure hes talking about s20 in general or about s20 ultra since i wrote i had an s20 ultra in my original email. Also its not clear if its just markets with exynos or those with SD as well. But it does seem that there is a problem that they know about...
Not sure what's going on here but just plugged my P6P in and after about twenty minutes of doing something else I checked it and started laughing. Also the net standby stuff is at 33%. Is all this because of this months patch because it's charged better than this last month. Anyone else have this problem and how did you fix it? Thanks in advance for any help.
Try a new cable or different power outlet
Paz9 said:
Try a new cable or different power outlet
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I tried cables, adapters, outlets...it only charges nicely when the phone is off
Metalhead520 said:
I tried cables, adapters, outlets...it only charges nicely when the phone is off
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Id try dirty flashing factory images
Paz9 said:
Id try dirty flashing factory images
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I don't have anything that isn't already on Google drive so if next months patch doesn't fix it I'll probably do a factory reset
Metalhead520 said:
I don't have anything that isn't already on Google drive so if next months patch doesn't fix it I'll probably do a factory reset
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Dirty flash without wiping.
See if that fixes it
Metalhead520 said:
Not sure what's going on here but just plugged my P6P in and after about twenty minutes of doing something else I checked it and started laughing. Also the net standby stuff is at 33%. Is all this because of this months patch because it's charged better than this last month. Anyone else have this problem and how did you fix it? Thanks in advance for any help.
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I had a problem charging my phone for the past 3 months. Finally upgraded to a new GaN3 charger and it solved all my charging headaches and future proofs me for a few days. I have these fancy magnetic adapters I bought too which really add to the experience.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VC7Z3YF/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_0FAK0WVVPZHP4DPFMBQW?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09HZTP75B/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_CG66V9Z3GXKZWPAVCD0P?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WJWQMML/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_7ABGBXM755PFHCKWHPP2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
There's the links for you all. Has worked with everything I have put on it so far. Pixel buds, samsung watch, S21 Ultra, Pixel 6 Pro charges FAST with no heat.
I doubt if it's the latest firmware - at least by itself. My wife and I haven't had any problems charging our phones from multiple sources/different cables.
You could try turning "Adaptive Charging" off and see if it helps, although I still have mine (and "Adaptive Battery") on.
Thank you guys for the help. I actually turned everything that has to do with the word "adaptive" off so I'll test it over the next few days. Woke up to my phone only 85% charged on my wireless charger/lamp which sucks. I just wish Google didn't set so many restrictions on what can charge the phone at it's fastest and keep it there.
My P6P and my wifes Pixel 6 charge faster than that and we use one of THESE to make it as slow as we can overnight (with adaptive charging) so i dont think it is anything to do with the recent patch.
Turning off Adaptive Charging and using a nice PPS charger and cable will alleviate most of the charging complaints for the Pixel 6. Those old USB-A or regular PD chargers won't cut it.
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Turning off Adaptive Charging and using a nice PPS charger and cable will alleviate most of the charging complaints for the Pixel 6. Those old USB-A or regular PD chargers won't cut it.
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I also recently experienced the same issue as the poster, and honestly idk what it could be other than an individual defective phone or a bad update. First noticed the issues about a week or two ago for me; although don't have an exact date. It doesn't happen 100% of the time, but it does frequently occur about 90%
At LOW battery, I'd be getting 9w draw (read on an external USB C charge-reader). Accubattery and ampere, while less accurate, also read 930MaH charge. Google stating 4.5 hours till full charge. Despite my phone stating its being "charged rapidly"
Contrasting that to what I consider "normal" at 18w-23w draw on the charge-reader, or 3600 - 4600 MaH with accubattery and ampere
Same charge speed on all bricks I used. Tried different outlets, cables, even my car:
* Google charger
* ANKER 30w PD
* ANKER 65w PD PPS (brand new)
* FasGear 30w PD AC (car)
* Used 4 different USB-C to C cables: one by Google, two by Anker, one by UGreen.
* same charging speed from 1% through 50% (which is supposed to be when it charges the fastest)
* temperature was normal
* technically only "adaptive charging" is relavent (which was off), however for ****s and giggles I turned anything adaptive off.
Beyond the testing I did above, I checked accubattery's history and saw several days (where I charged from sub10% to 100%) report the maximum off-screen charge was still below 1000MaH throughout the entire charge session
It sounds like something might be physically broken at your end. I'd suggest to contact Google. They will want you to go through a couple steps (probably factory resetting the phone, changing cable and power brick), after that they will probably offer you a replacement/repair the phone.
Indeed. I wonder if there could be something physically or electronically borked with the USB-C port/connection on the phone itself.
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Indeed. I wonder if there could be something physically or electronically borked with the USB-C port/connection on the phone itself.
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Be careful with USB-C, it easily captures dust that is pushed in the back of the slot when you plug the cable, and after a while it prevents the cable to be fully inserted, creating connection issues.
Anker Powerline III cables don't fully support PPS. Charging would disable and enabled, in an apparently random way. Anker's 10ft usb c to c cable works fine though. So extraordinarily thin cables like the powerline 3 probably provide less than ideal charging speed.
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Anker Powerline III cables don't fully support PPS. Charging would disable and enabled, in an apparently random way. Anker's 10ft usb c to c cable works fine though. So extraordinarily thin cables like the powerline 3 probably provide less than ideal charging speed
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Anker Powerline III cables don't fully support PPS. Charging would disable and enabled, in an apparently random way. Anker's 10ft usb c to c cable works fine though. So extraordinarily thin cables like the powerline 3 probably provide less than ideal charging speed.
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So even though I have the power line 3 flow anker 6ft cable and their 65 watt nano 2 charger I'm not getting the fastest speeds? The cable is rated at 100 watts so I thought I was eliminating charging bottlenecks.
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So even though I have the power line 3 flow anker 6ft cable and their 65 watt nano 2 charger I'm not getting the fastest speeds? The cable is rated at 100 watts so I thought I was eliminating charging bottlenecks.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086DMNK8R/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_B2B21MRD10TTP0P52NXY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is the product I'm referring too.
USB Power Delivery is much more powerful, supporting up to 100W of power to charge up even the most demanding gadgets such as laptops. It’s also safer, as gadgets and chargers communicate with each other over the USB cable to confirm the optimal charging power level. This handshaking approach supports voltage steps at 5V, 9V, 15V, and 20V for power outputs ranging from 0.5W to 100W. The new USB Power Delivery Programmable Power Supply (USB PD PPS) standard supports configurable voltages too, enabling more optimal charging. If two devices fail to communicate a suitable power rule, USB Power Delivery will default to the next power option supported by the relevant USB protocol, such as USB-C 1.5A
PPS itself does not enable 100w charging. USB PD 3.0 does. So that wattage bottleneck you're referring to doesn't matter since PPS is another charging standard built intop of USB PD 3.0
So what I was saying is that an extraordinarily thin cable like the Anker Powerline 3 may not be ideal when using a PPS charger. Works fine with USB PD 3.0
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086DMNK8R/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_B2B21MRD10TTP0P52NXY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is the product I'm referring too.
USB Power Delivery is much more powerful, supporting up to 100W of power to charge up even the most demanding gadgets such as laptops. It’s also safer, as gadgets and chargers communicate with each other over the USB cable to confirm the optimal charging power level. This handshaking approach supports voltage steps at 5V, 9V, 15V, and 20V for power outputs ranging from 0.5W to 100W. The new USB Power Delivery Programmable Power Supply (USB PD PPS) standard supports configurable voltages too, enabling more optimal charging. If two devices fail to communicate a suitable power rule, USB Power Delivery will default to the next power option supported by the relevant USB protocol, such as USB-C 1.5A
PPS itself does not enable 100w charging. USB PD 3.0 does. So that wattage bottleneck you're referring to doesn't matter since PPS another charging standard built intop of USB PD 3.0
So what I was saying is that an extraordinarily thin cables like the Anker Powerline 3 may not be ideal when using a PPS charger. Works fine with USB PD 3.0
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So what I'm getting at right now is that my 100 watt flow cable is actually charging slower with my wall charger then the one you linked?
Are you using a Powerline 3 cable and a PPS charger if so? It may perform sub optimally, in my experiences.