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Curious question.
I like owning Nexus devices, even if I don't need them. I see Google has an offer with project fi right now "A new way to say hello to project fi".
Pretty much get a Nexus 5x for $199 when activating a project fi account.
Could I get this, toss the project fi sim card to the side, and use this 5x on Verizon networks?
Yes you could do exactly that... the only caveat is you have to first activate project fi on nexus 5x first to get the $150 off. If you just throw the sim card without activating you won't get the discount.
So what did is buy the deal. activated (cost me $20, for 1 month fi service) , took the fi sim card and used my atnt .. all good for $199+ 20(FI service 1st month) + tax = much better deal
You could always just give google fi a try for a month and see how it works for you. Fi switches between Sprint and Tmobile networks plus has wifi calling. I am not exactly sure you would be able to activate the phone on verzion because at one time they were weird about the phones they allowed on their network.
I did exactly that. But I also have an activated nano sim ready from my other Verizon phone so didn't have to activate anything. Just popped my sim in after playing around with fi for a couple days
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ended up just transferring to project fi completely with my nexus 5x. long story short, this phone suck. LG's ****ty cpu throttling. every custom rom sucks with project fi.
i find myself using my nexus 6 more than the 5x now, mostly because of the shi ty project fi support on custom roms
Bought a Google pixel xl off swappa. Says he never had the phone activated. I think I read that if a pixel is on fi it won't work on another network. Took the pixel xl to Verizon to get a new sim. They asked for the ime number. His tablet said Verizon can't activate the device or acknowledge the device because it's not a Verizon device or something. I did do a network reset in settings. Any ideas?
My Pixel XL and wife's Pixel are both Google purchased phones running on Verizon. All I did was take the sim chip out of my Google purchased Nexus 6 and put it in my Pixel XL. My wife's old phone had the wrong size sim chip so we took it into a Verizon store to get activated.
Paul1201 said:
My Pixel XL and wife's Pixel are both Google purchased phones running on Verizon. All I did was take the sim chip out of my Google purchased Nexus 6 and put it in my Pixel XL. My wife's old phone had the wrong size sim chip so we took it into a Verizon store to get activated.
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Did they ask for the ime number?
93fuelslut said:
Bought a Google pixel xl off swappa. Says he never had the phone activated. I think I read that if a pixel is on fi it won't work on another network. Took the pixel xl to Verizon to get a new sim. They asked for the ime number. His tablet said Verizon can't activate the device or acknowledge the device because it's not a Verizon device or something. I did do a network reset in settings. Any ideas?
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Project Fi devices can be used on other networks as long as they have been paid for in full and the device is no longer linked to a Project Fi account. I don't know the specifics of Verizon though. If you buy a Pixel from Verizon the bootloader is locked. If you buy a Pixel anywhere else the bootloader can be unlocked. If the Verizon rep told you they wouldn't active a non Verizon device it's possible that Verizon changed their bring your own phone policy (which is something some carriers like Virgin Mobile do not allow you to do) or that they changed their policy specifically for Pixels because they don't want the unlockable versions on their network. It's also possible you got a bad customer service rep who was misinformed and that you need to call back and speak to someone else.
There are also a couple of other possibilities. You might have purchased a stolen phone that is blacklisted or that your seller is on the up and up but needs to contact Project Fi to deregister the device with them before you can register it someplace else. I've had this happen with other carriers when I sold used phones I no longer wanted to keep.
I'm thinking about selling my Pixel XL because I'm not thrilled with it and contacted Pixel support yesterday to get some info. They said there was no restriction on my selling the device (which isn't even 6 weeks old) and that the warranty from the Google Store and the extended warranty I purchased could both be transferred to the new owner.
The thing you read about Project Fi devices not being usable on other networks was a temporary glitch where they were black listing former devices in error. It isn't Project Fi policy to prevent members from taking their phones to another carrier or selling them as long as the phone has been paid for. If you purchased a Pixel through the Fi Store rather than Google you can't change carriers with that phone until its been completely paid for.
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Project Fi devices can be used on other networks as long as they have been paid for in full and the device is no longer linked to a Project Fi account. I don't know the specifics of Verizon though. If you buy a Pixel from Verizon the bootloader is locked. If you buy a Pixel anywhere else the bootloader can be unlocked. If the Verizon rep told you they wouldn't active a non Verizon device it's possible that Verizon changed their bring your own phone policy (which is something some carriers like Virgin Mobile do not allow you to do) or that they changed their policy specifically for Pixels because they don't want the unlockable versions on their network. It's also possible you got a bad customer service rep who was misinformed and that you need to call back and speak to someone else.
There are also a couple of other possibilities. You might have purchased a stolen phone that is blacklisted or that your seller is on the up and up but needs to contact Project Fi to deregister the device with them before you can register it someplace else. I've had this happen with other carriers when I sold used phones I no longer wanted to keep.
I'm thinking about selling my Pixel XL because I'm not thrilled with it and contacted Pixel support yesterday to get some info. They said there was no restriction on my selling the device (which isn't even 6 weeks old) and that the warranty from the Google Store and the extended warranty I purchased could both be transferred to the new owner.
The thing you read about Project Fi devices not being usable on other networks was a temporary glitch where they were black listing former devices in error. It isn't Project Fi policy to prevent members from taking their phones to another carrier or selling them as long as the phone has been paid for. If you purchased a Pixel through the Fi Store rather than Google you can't change carriers with that phone until its been completely paid for.
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Thanks for the clarification. I'll call Verizon tech service and go from there.
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Thanks for the clarification. I'll call Verizon tech service and go from there.
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Good luck.
I actually bought my pixel XL from Google, and got on a plan with Verizon. Originally they said they couldn't do it. They asked for my imei and kept telling me it wouldn't allow the phone to be activated or that it was invalid.
I knew a bit more than the Verizon rep, so i asked if he can just use his phone and Imei to activate the SIM card, and then I'd take the activated sim card and slide it into the pixel.
I had to help a friend do this also, Verizon is picky when it comes to phones not purchased from them. And they are real quick to say "since it's not a Verizon pixel it won't work", at least that's what I got multiple times
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I actually bought my pixel XL from Google, and got on a plan with Verizon. Originally they said they couldn't do it. They asked for my imei and kept telling me it wouldn't allow the phone to be activated or that it was invalid.
I knew a bit more than the Verizon rep, so i asked if he can just use his phone and Imei to activate the SIM card, and then I'd take the activated sim card and slide it into the pixel.
I had to help a friend do this also, Verizon is picky when it comes to phones not purchased from them. And they are real quick to say "since it's not a Verizon pixel it won't work", at least that's what I got multiple times
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I knew that was it! He kinda acted shady abt activating it. Once he entered the IMEI number do you think the phone is now flagged by Verizon on their system?
Do they have to have the IMEI number anyways?
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I knew that was it! He kinda acted shady abt activating it. Once he entered the IMEI number do you think the phone is now flagged by Verizon on their system?
Do they have to have the IMEI number anyways?
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It isn't flagged. You got a VZ rep that didn't know what they were doing. Very common. Go to a corporate store, better chance of finding someone that has a clue.
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It isn't flagged. You got a VZ rep that didn't know what they were doing. Very common. Go to a corporate store, better chance of finding someone that has a clue.
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Thanks. I did go to a corporate store. Dug up a page on Reddit and alot of people are having the same experience with Verizon. I'm gonna try to re activate my Verizon n6 at Verizon, activate it, and pop that Sim in my pixel XL
93fuelslut said:
Thanks. I did go to a corporate store. Dug up a page on Reddit and alot of people are having the same experience with Verizon. I'm gonna try to re activate my Verizon n6 at Verizon, activate it, and pop that Sim in my pixel XL
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That will work perfectly for you.
I got my Pixel yesterday, from VZW, it was the last one they had. I dropped it this morning, which cracked the screen, and was thinking of getting one from Gooble. So I can unlock the bootloader, I prefer my own Android builds, even though there's really not a lot of bloatware on this device and it is running Andy 8.0 DP3.
I'm on the fence, I cannot get by without a phone, friends are recommending many different devices (so I will develop some ROMs, of course), but I really want a Pixel and Verizon is my only option for a carrier...
@93fuelslut, let us know if you get yours going :good:
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I got my Pixel yesterday, from VZW, it was the last one they had. I dropped it this morning, which cracked the screen, and was thinking of getting one from Gooble. So I can unlock the bootloader, I prefer my own Android builds, even though there's really not a lot of bloatware on this device and it is running Andy 8.0 DP3.
I'm on the fence, I cannot get by without a phone, friends are recommending many different devices (so I will develop some ROMs, of course), but I really want a Pixel and Verizon is my only option for a carrier...
@93fuelslut, let us know if you get yours going :good:
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I will. Gotta do the father's day stuff in a few and then I'll stop by to activate my Verizon n6. I think it's a easy activation, it's just the Reps and their sales tactics. I have read that the Verizon Pixel can't be unlocked now with the new update. Just a heads up
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I got my Pixel yesterday, from VZW, it was the last one they had. I dropped it this morning, which cracked the screen, and was thinking of getting one from Gooble. So I can unlock the bootloader, I prefer my own Android builds, even though there's really not a lot of bloatware on this device and it is running Andy 8.0 DP3.
I'm on the fence, I cannot get by without a phone, friends are recommending many different devices (so I will develop some ROMs, of course), but I really want a Pixel and Verizon is my only option for a carrier...
@93fuelslut, let us know if you get yours going :good:
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Your broke Pixel was on VZ? You are done, just put that sim in the new one. That is how I did my Google Pixel XL. Took the Sim out of my Nexus 6 and put it in my Pixel. Never even talked to VZ.
TonikJDK said:
Your broke Pixel was on VZ? You are done, just put that sim in the new one. That is how I did my Google Pixel XL. Took the Sim out of my Nexus 6 and put it in my Pixel. Never even talked to VZ.
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That's what I was thinking, even though, I have to go back to Verizon to return the broken one
I'm currently negotiating with an Amazon seller...
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Your broke Pixel was on VZ? You are done, just put that sim in the new one. That is how I did my Google Pixel XL. Took the Sim out of my Nexus 6 and put it in my Pixel. Never even talked to VZ.
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I'm glad you stated that
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That's what I was thinking, even though, I have to go back to Verizon to return the broken one
I'm currently negotiating with an Amazon seller...
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Be careful. I bought my first Nexus 6P from an Amazon seller and she was a scammer --although her feedback looked good when I made the purchase. She provided a tracking number and the day it was supposed to arrive I anxiously waited. Then I got a text that the package was delivered but I had no package. Initially I thought UPS had misdelivered the package but then I noticed that according to the tracking number it had been delivered to a completely different state. I checked her feedback again and found she had done the exact same thing to a bunch of other buyers. When she wouldn't return any messages and her feedback kept going down it was apparent she was a scammer. I reported her to Amazon and it took them two weeks to suspend her account --during which time she sold at least 30 more phones. It also took forever to get a refund from Amazon since it involved a fraud investigation. I'm much more careful with third party sellers on Amazon, particularly for anything expensive although third party sellers offering cheap Chinese knock off products are also very common on Amazon. Like I said, be careful. People have reported buying new computers from third party sellers on Amazon that had bootleg versions of Windows installed with a key generator program that was still installed on the computer.
jhs39 said:
Be careful. I bought my first Nexus 6P from an Amazon seller and she was a scammer --although her feedback looked good when I made the purchase. She provided a tracking number and the day it was supposed to arrive I anxiously waited. Then I got a text that the package was delivered but I had no package. Initially I thought UPS had misdelivered the package but then I noticed that according to the tracking number it had been delivered to a completely different state. I checked her feedback again and found she had done the exact same thing to a bunch of other buyers. When she wouldn't return any messages and her feedback kept going down it was apparent she was a scammer. I reported her to Amazon and it took them two weeks to suspend her account --during which time she sold at least 30 more phones. It also took forever to get a refund from Amazon since it involved a fraud investigation. I'm much more careful with third party sellers on Amazon, particularly for anything expensive although third party sellers offering cheap Chinese knock off products are also very common on Amazon. Like I said, be careful. People have reported buying new computers from third party sellers on Amazon that had bootleg versions of Windows installed with a key generator program that was still installed on the computer.
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How do you know if it's a 3rd party?
Activating my Nexus 6 at Verizon then using that same sim to power my pixel XL worked like a charm.
93fuelslut said:
Activating my Nexus 6 at Verizon then using that same sim to power my pixel XL worked like a charm.
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Awesome, congrats.
Hi Everyone,
I am researching the possibility of using the Pixel 2 or Pixel 2 XL in Australia as a dual sim phone since it takes 1 physical sim and has the built in eSIM. I really want a dual sim phone and so I recently bought a OnePlus 5T. Really great phone but the camera just does not live up to my expectations. I came from a Nexus 6P which I think takes better pictures, or at least when you zoom in on the picture you dont get a washed out hazing effect like you do on the OP5T.
So I'm thinking of trying to get setup with Project Fi unless anyone knows info & details that I could use Telstra "One Number"? I should also mention that I currently have a Telstra sim provided by work (my company I work for) and then I have a person prepaid Telstra data only sim which use for my internet addiction and downloading which has 40GB data use on it currently). I'd like to keep this setup with SIMs so maybe I can get my company sim ported to Telstra One Number? I know using project Fi things will cost a little more with currency conversions since everything is in USA dollars. Plus the other thing I dont know yet is what number you'd get issued (a USA format number I guess?).
I also read that you need the North American model phone except I later found out that's for the Pixels (1st gen). The Pixel 2 (XL) phones all models are supported on Project Fi according to this google page https://support.google.com/fi/answer/6224695?hl=en
So I wanted to start this thread to get feedback and help provide answers to other about this possibility here down under in Australia to makes use of dual sim function on Pixel 2 or Pixel 2 XL.
Hopefully I haven't duplicated an already existing thread. I searched but not finding answers.
Paul.
It has become apparent to a few of us who purchased G Power phones from Google Fi that their claim it is unlocked is not true. If you have them port your number over to a MVNO, such as I did, to Boom Mobile, (Verizon ), that sim card will only get you 2G, 1xRTT, with no data. There is a thread on Reddit , and Motorola forum. And, the claims are it would be difficult to rid the phone of the Fi rom and replace it with one that will truly unlock the phone.
This forum will not let me post those links now. However, users of this phone from Fi have tried everything but rooting, which of course, voids the warranty. And, the consensus is, it is installed firmware. Most bought these from Fi at a attractive price of $149, for a claimed, "unlocked", phone. $100 less then from Best Buy etc.
And, probable not that many complaints yet, as most stick with Fi.
Multiple emails to Google Fi, get you nowhere, as they will not admit to the problem.
As I, and others no little about rooting., we are looking for a simple answer to get Google Fi's rom off the phone, without a lot of hassle.
Any help would be appreciated. We all have tried; Factory, Network Reset etc. nothing so far works. If we had purchased the phone from another retail store unlocked this would not happen.
As you may know, Google Fi uses T-Mobile/Sprint/ Us Cellular networks on this phone, and their service is generally good. However, where I live and travel, Verizon just works more of the time. I put Boom Mobile's, (Verizon), sim card into my older, unlocked Moto G6, bought from Best Buy, which was on Google Fi for some time, and it works, 4G,without doing anything.
Thank you for any help.
I might have mis-spoke about a Moto G Power unlocked from non-network retail, it may have same problem, no conformation on this yet.
So I did the same as you. I purchase from Google FI. But I place my at&t sim on this phone and everything is working fine. Download speeds around 33 to 28mbps. Only thing I noticed is my calls are not Cristal clear. Other than that I had no issues so far
@PesSarmiento Thanks for that Info! It has been pretty consistently reported on various forums that the problem lies in trying to use the Google Fi sourced Moto G Power on the Verizon network. I have personally wondered what would happen if I inserted an AT&T SIM card, so that's good to know. It seems that Google promotes the G Power as an "unlocked" phone, only to find that is not so.
180pilot said:
It has become apparent to a few of us who purchased G Power phones from Google Fi that their claim it is unlocked is not true. If you have them port your number over to a MVNO, such as I did, to Boom Mobile, (Verizon ), that sim card will only get you 2G, 1xRTT, with no data. There is a thread on Reddit , and Motorola forum. And, the claims are it would be difficult to rid the phone of the Fi rom and replace it with one that will truly unlock the phone.
This forum will not let me post those links now. However, users of this phone from Fi have tried everything but rooting, which of course, voids the warranty. And, the consensus is, it is installed firmware. Most bought these from Fi at a attractive price of $149, for a claimed, "unlocked", phone. $100 less then from Best Buy etc.
And, probable not that many complaints yet, as most stick with Fi.
Multiple emails to Google Fi, get you nowhere, as they will not admit to the problem.
As I, and others no little about rooting., we are looking for a simple answer to get Google Fi's rom off the phone, without a lot of hassle.
Any help would be appreciated. We all have tried; Factory, Network Reset etc. nothing so far works. If we had purchased the phone from another retail store unlocked this would not happen.
As you may know, Google Fi uses T-Mobile/Sprint/ Us Cellular networks on this phone, and their service is generally good. However, where I live and travel, Verizon just works more of the time. I put Boom Mobile's, (Verizon), sim card into my older, unlocked Moto G6, bought from Best Buy, which was on Google Fi for some time, and it works, 4G,without doing anything.
Thank you for any help.
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I think I am going to guess that something else is going on here. If it wasn't unlocked, I don't think you would get any service at all, not just 2G, 1xRTT.
Has anyone tried a factory reset with the different provider sim in the device?
I am using mine on FI and don't currently have another sim to test.
boog said:
I think I am going to guess that something else is going on here. If it wasn't unlocked, I don't think you would get any service at all, not just 2G, 1xRTT.
Has anyone tried a factory reset with the different provider sim in the device?
I am using mine on FI and don't currently have another sim to test.
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Yes, many of us have done numerous factory resets. And yes, we've tried other sim cards, on a VZW MVNO in my case. Nothing works. I read of one person inserting an AT&T sim card and that did work for him.
I did get a response from Motorola Support today on the Lenovo Forum. It reads...
Senior MotoAgent
Re:LTE Not Working When moving from Google Fi to Red Pocket MVNO (using CDMA / VZW)
2020-08-14, 11:25 AM
Hi Yar33,
We checked that Google Fi Models having a problem with calls and data when moving to other carriers not just Verizon. These models will get fixed in future updates which is an update coming from us, not by Google. For now, we do not have any time frame for the update.
Best regards,
Zeke
Motorola Support
Yar33 said:
Yes, many of us have done numerous factory resets. And yes, we've tried other sim cards, on a VZW MVNO in my case. Nothing works. I read of one person inserting an AT&T sim card and that did work for him.
I did get a response from Motorola Support today on the Lenovo Forum. It reads...
Senior MotoAgent
Re:LTE Not Working When moving from Google Fi to Red Pocket MVNO (using CDMA / VZW)
2020-08-14, 11:25 AM
Hi Yar33,
We checked that Google Fi Models having a problem with calls and data when moving to other carriers not just Verizon. These models will get fixed in future updates which is an update coming from us, not by Google. For now, we do not have any time frame for the update.
Best regards,
Zeke
Motorola Support
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That actually sounds a bit more reasonable, thanks for sharing that.
The bit of testing on Fi for me appears to show that the phone switches to H or 3g for calls when connected to T-Mobile. Sprint acts like sprint and switches to 1x for phone calls.
But it has a hard time staying connected to T-mobile compared to Pixel devices I used in the past.
I hope they fix it soon.
So I recently got my visible sim card, and like you mentioned I have no service on Moto G Power. The sim card is working fine in a Galaxy note 9. Let me know if you got some fix to this problem. I will really appreciate if you can send me a PM with those links from the other forums
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So I recently got my visible sim card, and like you mentioned I have no service on Moto G Power. The sim card is working fine in a Galaxy note 9. Let me know if you got some fix to this problem. I will really appreciate if you can send me a PM with those links from the other forums
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isn't visible on Verizon? So you can't just switch a sim from one device to another like GSM.
Edit: This solution worked from a user u/yagyaxt1068 on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoG/comments/i7djqx/guide_on_how_to_get_lte_working_on_verizon_again/
You'll have to unlock the bootloader and flash the Verizon ROM. The Retail/RETUS ROM doesn't solve the issue.
Meanwhile 6+ months later... They must have fixed the problem.
I just bought a 'used' Moto G Power (XT2041-4) off of eBay a few weeks ago. Two months old.
Private Seller. He made sure that the device was wiped properly so I didn't have to deal with FRP issues.
Android 10, Google Fi software channel.
I installed my SIM from Mint Mobile and was off to the races. I haven't had any connection issues (that I know of.)
I'm still learning my way around the device...
Seems last update did something, my G power now works with Boost Mobile sim? software channel still, Google Fi. Bought another G power from Best Buy, channel is, US retail. Both work fine Verizon LTE. Now always carry two identical phones, for safety backup. Waiting for Android 11 update to see if the channel changes on Fi phone?
Try disabling Google Fi app before trying on any other sim card. I'm using G power(bought from google) with ultra-mobile. Everything is working as expected.
Most likely because Ultra Mobile is using T- Mobile. Same as Fi.
Does the Software Channel in "about phone" page still show Google Fi or US retail?
I disabled the Fi app and still could not use Verizon MVNO before last update.
Did any of you guys set up the ****ing APN at all or what? If you have nothing except for basic "2G" its because you need the APN and the moment it's in there it will take a tenth of a second for it to pop up and that's it
Tried that' first phone from Google has "Google FI" as APN. and prefs are grayed out can't change it. Second Moto G from Best Buy has "VZWINTERNET". Found by; Settings, Network & internet, Mobile network, Advanced, Access Point Names. Seems Phone from Google the APN will stay the same if inserting a verizon sim card? Unlocked changes.
Hey everyone,
I have a Pixel 6 Pro with Google Fi. Works great, but the Dual Connect feature (*not* DSDS) helped sell me on it.
After trying multiple times and reading multiple posts, it seems it doesn't really exist anymore, or at least hasn't been rolled out to everyone. After pressuring Fi support enough, I was told that it was being rolled out but has now been abandoned.
A lot of these threads were from last year at best. Since then, does anyone know for certain what the status is of Dual Connect, and if so, how to get it working?
Specifically asking as I have issues with international travel and Fi deciding on the best network to connect to. I'd rather not do manual selection either.