Question Bootloader / Debloat / Pi-Hole vs SafetyNet (regarding the STOCK ROM) - Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40

Even a bit of searching won't help now but since...
crDroid doesn't have the CORRECT Dolby Atmos module needed, which effectively requires MIUI...
Xiaomi.eu still has few concerning bugs for real life (ringtone cannot be changed, for instance)...
I read something about Pixel Extended being problematic enough to brick someone's previous Poco F3...
I flashed the stock ROM again and tried to debloat it, to a success I'm proud of, but of course, SafetyNet complains about unlocked bootloaders. Except here's the problem: Locking the bootloader with a debloated stock ROM is an effective hardbrick, right?
If not, I may as well lock it, right? Assuming I will never update MIUI that is......or it's Universal Android Debloater to the rescue...
If yes, this leaves me with two paths:
Clean all and lock this time, as in reflash the stock ROM again, but with the bootloader locked, but let a Pi-Hole handle the adblocking
Stay on a custom MIUI ROM for the duration of the device, without the bugs, assuming it's SafetyNet-OK (I'd ask someone to test MIUI Pulse Extended 13 with a secondary device first)
But I'm asking this for those who rather need everything working as intended, including a SafetyNet CTS TRUE, which means stock ROM AND locked bootloader:
Will a Pi-Hole work for those CTS TRUE who want to block the ads in Xiaomi's own system apps? Or that's it and custom ROMs all the way?
Explaining what a Pi-Hole is is beyond the scope of the forums I believe, let alone this device's forum, but tl;dr I'm not giving up the fight for a proper Atmos, no ads and my games running properly AND SafetyNet OK, even if it means a discrete Raspberry Pi handling this mess of a "MIUI chaos" instead of a custom ROM.
Trying to debloat the stock is an option if it works with locked bootloaders, but I'm not sure if that will trip SafetyNet, since I didn't dare relock it to check. Though few searches imply locked-bootloader debloat and SafetyNet STILL OK, not sure if BASIC only or CTS TRUE. But this brings me to the Pi-Hole part again...
Or I should grab a Sony Xperia 1 IV at this point? (ahead of time)

I once use stock miui (locked) then debloat, lastly using blokada for all the adblock that I need. Use persintent vpn mode to make sure always on adblock and choose xiaomi ad block on blokada option

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I use Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM (Stable, MIUI 13, Android 12).
I use AdAway to block ads system-wide. (Available on F-Droid!)
And I use Magisk + Magisk Module "Universal SafetyNet Fix" for Root, Mods and passing SafetyNet.
I use Xiaomi.eu because Dolby Atmos and MIUI Camera are also important to me.
So... you don't have to lock the bootloader. You CAN pass SafetyNet!
You might have to clear data of Google Play Store & Google Play Services.
If "Netflix" shows up, SafetyNet is passing.
But if you do lock your bootloader, you should be careful and factory reset, and only debloat AFTER the bootloader-lock.
BTW, here's proof that SafetyNet works. This will also work on many other Custom ROMs:
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BTW, if you have more questions you can hit me up on Discord or Twitter!
The Xperia IV is really beautiful tho

blasev said:
I once use stock miui (locked) then debloat, lastly using blokada for all the adblock that I need. Use persintent vpn mode to make sure always on adblock and choose xiaomi ad block on blokada option
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Blokada...
May be interesting to check out, as I'm STILL on the look for anything that functions similar to iOS Lockdown Privacy...
EDIT: Blokada works. Finally I have the Android answer to iOS Lockdown Privacy, thanks blasev!!

I I'm using the Xiaomi EU weekly with the boot loader unlocked and can set coustm ringtones and it passes safety net and is certified at play store

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Bootloader Unlock and phone's encryption support

Dear All,
I was on my way to yet another bootloader unlocked phone of mine, but I happened to have a doubt about a point mentioned on Motorola's official BL unlock link:
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My concern lies with the possible loss of encryption support.
My questions are, will my Addison's encryption be lost if:
I unlock the bootloader but don't flash any custom ROM
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I Root my phone and use system modifications like use Xposed and Viper4Android
Thank you for your patient and relevant help!
Cheers!!
I unlocked my bootloader and am rooted. Device still shows as encrypted. Not sure why they issued that warning.
are you all using the unlocked GSM model?
Milly7 said:
I unlocked my bootloader and am rooted. Device still shows as encrypted. Not sure why they issued that warning.
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Thanks for that info.
With respect to why that warning by Motorola, I believe it is because once we unlock the bootloader and flash custom ROM that might not be complied to support encryption or there might be some bugs in the custom ROM that doesn't enable encryption or if we modify system in such a way after rooting that the encryption might be lost due to these changes.
Hence, I believe this is why Motorola says "You may lose encryption support."
This was my understanding but I wanted to get it cleared on xda.
Can anyone throw some more light on my understanding?
We can then close this thread after complete clarity to all members so this turns out to be a fruitful discussion to most members here.
Cheers!!
Milly7 said:
I unlocked my bootloader and am rooted. Device still shows as encrypted. Not sure why they issued that warning.
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Rooted via systemmode Super SU or systemless?
LAst I had checked only systemmode was able to patch the boot image.
hmnk said:
Rooted via systemmode Super SU or systemless?
LAst I had checked only systemmode was able to patch the boot image.
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Hold up, does systemless root actually work for the Z Play then? I haven't received mine yet, but I was under the impression anything systemless wouldn't work from reading around, like Magisk or systemless SuperSU.
lpchaim said:
Hold up, does systemless root actually work for the Z Play then? I haven't received mine yet, but I was under the impression anything systemless wouldn't work from reading around, like Magisk or systemless SuperSU.
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I rooted my Z Play (XT1635-02) recently using phh superuser.
Installed Magisk after that, and it seems to me it's systemless
as Adaway wouldn't work till I did the systemless hack - plus /system was read only
ozblogger said:
I rooted my Z Play (XT1635-02) recently using phh superuser.
Installed Magisk after that, and it seems to me it's systemless
as Adaway wouldn't work till I did the systemless hack - plus /system was read only
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I see, thanks. Yeah, magisk is definitely systemless, good to know it can be used normally.
Just for clarification, you can decrypt by formatting data on twrp. By just unlocking or rooting the encryption does not go away.
Enviado de meu XT1635-02 usando Tapatalk

Device is not certified

So apparently there has been an update and all my devices are now showing up as uncertified in the Play store. Anyone seen a new work around for this while running custom ROMs?
On the bright side it seems devices that you side load apps too, still get updates for the moment.
Stock OOS 5.1.4 UBL is also uncertified :|
Anyone else have this issue on Stock OOS with unlocked BL??
I've never seen my device be certified since I began using this phone. Is it normal for UBL phones to be uncertified even if they aren't rooted?
TechieTwinToes said:
Anyone else have this issue on Stock OOS with unlocked BL??
I've never seen my device be certified since I began using this phone. Is it normal for UBL phones to be uncertified even if they aren't rooted?
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Mine is certified with unlocked bootloader and root (on latest openbeta)
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Mine is certified with unlocked bootloader and root (on latest openbeta)
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Hey alessandro,
Does disabling Play Protect have any role in this? I keep it disabled because I side-load many apps.
OhioYJ said:
So apparently there has been an update and all my devices are now showing up as uncertified in the Play store. Anyone seen a new work around for this while running custom ROMs?
On the bright side it seems devices that you side load apps too, still get updates for the moment.
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Sorry, your account has been flagged for piracy, so you'll have to reflash every 7 days else your account won't give up updates.
killier2653 said:
Sorry, your account has been flagged for piracy, so you'll have to reflash every 7 days else your account won't give up updates.
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That's not what it means. Custom ROMs, unlocked boot loaders, rooted devices, etc, can trigger this. Generally custom kernels or Magisk would prevent this. However not anymore . Right now I'm seeing it across 4 accounts, 8 devices, 4 different types of devices, all LOS.
Here is the fix. Just tested this on the latest build of LOS, and it works fine. Direct link to the Magisk module.
Also those directions, say they chose a Pixel fingerprint, I chose the OP 5T fingerprint, it worked just fine. My device is now certified.
OhioYJ said:
Here is the fix. Just tested this on the latest build of LOS, and it works fine. Direct link to the Magisk module.
Also those directions, say they chose a Pixel fingerprint, I chose the OP 5T fingerprint, it worked just fine. My device is now certified.
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can you pass safetynet ?
try this app
latest safetynet api
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.scottyab.safetynet.sample
AlMaghraby said:
can you pass safetynet ?
try this app
latest safetynet api
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.scottyab.safetynet.sample
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I tried that app, yes it passes. Both CTS profile and Basic Integrity come back true.
(Obviously adding that app to the hide list)
OhioYJ said:
I tried that app, yes it passes. Both CTS profile and Basic Integrity come back true.
(Obviously adding that app to the hide list)
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thank you so much that was the only thing preventing me from updating

Just bought Mi 10T Pro and need som help

Yesterday I bought a Mi 10T Pro and I have a few questions.
I want to make the MUIU as close as possible to a vanilla Android and also at least Xiaomi apps as possible.
Im going to use Nova Launcher also.
I read somewhere that it was possible to delete Xiaomi's own apps via ADB, is it correct and how do I do?
The reason I don't want to flash a custom rom is they still seem to not work that well yet due to what I have read in the threads.
I will flash a custom rom when:
1) It is possible to port the full working Stock Xiaomi App, so it is possible to film in 8K and 4K 60fps.
GCAM can also be a alternative if it works well in 4k 60fps and 8K, would be great if GCAM could make it possible to use OIS and EIS in 4K 60fps
2) When NFC works 1000%
3) When fingerprint works to 100%
4) Banking apps, netflix must work.
Well until others can assist u to find one, kindly use debloater tool from https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools , and use the theme Google Pixel v12.
sanctitude888 said:
Well until others can assist u to find one, kindly use debloater tool from https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools , and use the theme Google Pixel v12.
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Enabling Camera2 requires TWRP which I believe requires an unlocked bootloader and root access. All the other also require an unlocked bootloader which may stop some banking apps from working (especially Google pay)
Debloat tool is working without unlocking bootloader.
I was using this tool while my bootloader was locked for debloating.
Also unlocking bootloader doesn't mean you can't use banking apps. Magisk hide is doing pretty good job hiding root.
Sub8 said:
Also unlocking bootloader doesn't mean you can't use banking apps. Magisk hide is doing pretty good job hiding root.
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That is really important, I must be able to use my banks app and payment app with NFC.
BaconTrousers said:
Enabling Camera2 requires TWRP which I believe requires an unlocked bootloader and root access. All the other also require an unlocked bootloader which may stop some banking apps from working (especially Google pay)
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Camera2api already enabled if i'm not mistaken. I have a version of Gcam working just fine with few minor bugs. Miui 12 is not as bad as it sounds when you have control of it. It has plenty of features you won't find on, say, lineage (I use one on my other device). I have 4.5gb free ram with few apps unoptimized.
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Camera2api already enabled if i'm not mistaken. I have a version of Gcam working just fine with few minor bugs. Miui 12 is not as bad as it sounds when you have control of it. It has plenty of features you won't find on, say, lineage (I use one on my other device). I have 4.5gb free ram with few apps unoptimized.View attachment 5271035
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Yes, you're right, cameras api is enabled and most gcams work out-of-the-box but with mixed success. Bsg gcam seems to be the best working gcam for mi 10t (pro) for now

Question What are the apps are safe to uninstall in Poco f3 using ADB?

Hi all, What are the apps are safe to uninstall in Poco F3 ?
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Thanks for the help.
Regards,
Jason
I have uninstalled all these apps and have seen no issues, however I will put as a disclaimer that some MIUI functions will probably not work anymore and since I have no use for them personally I removed all these apps, you should debloat depending on what you use and what you don't use at all, I want to experiment someday taking off the Mi Cloud since I have no usage for it too.
Also, after having done an update, you will have to debloat again, you could debloat even more things if you follow this guide I believe however mind that it might cause issues and you'll have to reinstall/rollback your uninstalling of some apps, since I don't care if I broke something I don't use any way.
Beware that debloating can cause bootloops or render your Poco F3 unable to install APKs anymore, so tread carefully or make backups if possible a Nandroid Backup is the best choice however that is not easy to restore nor to make if you wish to keep your bootloader locked.
If you have no use for Google apps, I think you can freely take them away, most of them, there may be issues if you take off the Google Assistant since it is on by default when you press the middle button of the screen for a while.
Here is more info about some apps preinstalled that IMO should be debloated.
Wish you the best debloating experience you can possibly have.
AkechiShiro said:
I have uninstalled all these apps and have seen no issues, however I will put as a disclaimer that some MIUI functions will probably not work anymore and since I have no use for them personally I removed all these apps, you should debloat depending on what you use and what you don't use at all, I want to experiment someday taking off the Mi Cloud since I have no usage for it too.
Also, after having done an update, you will have to debloat again, you could debloat even more things if you follow this guide I believe however mind that it might cause issues and you'll have to reinstall/rollback your uninstalling of some apps, since I don't care if I broke something I don't use any way.
Beware that debloating can cause bootloops or render your Poco F3 unable to install APKs anymore, so tread carefully or make backups if possible a Nandroid Backup is the best choice however that is not easy to restore nor to make if you wish to keep your bootloader locked.
If you have no use for Google apps, I think you can freely take them away, most of them, there may be issues if you take off the Google Assistant since it is on by default when you press the middle button of the screen for a while.
Here is more info about some apps preinstalled that IMO should be debloated.
Wish you the best debloating experience you can possibly have.
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I don't know how many times you have searched for guides like these but they are 90% similar. The best choice is to follow custom roms like XiaoMi.EU will be more safer. Anyway, I always have this feeling that my device perform slower whenever I tried to debloat it to max. Do you ever remove those tiny apps without icons? Those are the scary parts, major apps at least we know they are mostly stand alone.
If you want to go that extend then better use AOSP roms. I always remove below using tool when using Meme stock and works fine, no reverse impact on stability or battery performance. But as suggested by many here, debloating all will eventually impact the stability and you will end up in mess.
1. Analytics
2. MSA
3. Joyce
4. Hybdrid accessory
5. GetApps
6. Wallpaper Carousel
7. Cleaner
8. Soter Service
9. Mi Pay
10 Mi Credit
11. Facebook
12. Mi Video
13. Music
India build specific-
Also you can remove that facemiji keyboard (not covered in adb tool)
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.facemoji.lite.xiaomi

Question How do I install a brand new clean official ROM and lock the bootloader?

How do I install a brand new clean official ROM and lock the bootloader?
Thanks
jkmaxfli said:
How do I install a brand new clean official ROM and lock the bootloader?
I fuc.k some root and safety nets to make mobile payments work.
Thanks
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/flash-tool-guide-use-xiaomi-flash-tool.4262425/
You download the latest official ROM for your region from xiaomifirmwareupdater.com or the official MIUI site, unpack it, get Google SDK Platform-Tools (for ADB & Fastboot), and either use Xiaomi Mi Flash Tool, or use the script-files themselves from the ROM-folder.
Also be careful, because any disruption of the Flashing-process can hardbrick your phone.
the safest options would be to
Option 1)
Flash the stock rom without locking bootloader
Boot device
Boot back to fastboot
Lock bootloader
Option 2)
Use mi flash tool
Use clean all option
Boot device
Boot back to fastboot
Use clean all and lock
I've done the above and gone back to stock.
I'm currently happy with almost everything.
I have an issue with my Google maps timeline, in that I don't have any.
I'm thinking it might be something I did in my Google account.
Would anyone have any idea what could be wrong?
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I've done the above and gone back to stock.
I'm currently happy with almost everything.
I have an issue with my Google maps timeline, in that I don't have any.
I'm thinking it might be something I did in my Google account.
Would anyone have any idea what could be wrong?
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It just requires Location to be enabled, and Google Location History to be enabled.
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It's currently showing as enabled, there was 56 devices on it so I deleted everything but my current devices to see if that makes a difference.
11214 said:
I've done the above and gone back to stock.
I'm currently happy with almost everything.
I have an issue with my Google maps timeline, in that I don't have any.
I'm thinking it might be something I did in my Google account.
Would anyone have any idea what could be wrong?
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Hey Guys, currently i using Miui 12.5.5 stable global & i saw few peoples comments the best miui 12.5 stock rom with good battery is miui 12.5.3, is it true ?
coolkillermax said:
Hey Guys, currently i using Miui 12.5.5 stable global & i saw few peoples comments the best miui 12.5 stock rom with good battery is miui 12.5.3, is it true ?
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No they're by in large equal. Only against AOSP Custom ROMs you may notice an improvement in Battery efficiency.
cyanGalaxy said:
No they're by in large equal. Only against AOSP Custom ROMs you may notice an improvement in Battery efficiency.
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Thanks for comments, than MIUI global stable ROM Quite Suck.....
MIUI GLOBAL STABLE 13.0.7
(13.0.7.0 SKHEUXM)
Incredible battery life !!!
I roll my eyes !!!

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