Bootloader Unlock and phone's encryption support - Moto Z Play Questions & Answers

Dear All,
I was on my way to yet another bootloader unlocked phone of mine, but I happened to have a doubt about a point mentioned on Motorola's official BL unlock link:
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My concern lies with the possible loss of encryption support.
My questions are, will my Addison's encryption be lost if:
I unlock the bootloader but don't flash any custom ROM
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I Root my phone and use system modifications like use Xposed and Viper4Android
Thank you for your patient and relevant help!
Cheers!!

I unlocked my bootloader and am rooted. Device still shows as encrypted. Not sure why they issued that warning.

are you all using the unlocked GSM model?

Milly7 said:
I unlocked my bootloader and am rooted. Device still shows as encrypted. Not sure why they issued that warning.
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Thanks for that info.
With respect to why that warning by Motorola, I believe it is because once we unlock the bootloader and flash custom ROM that might not be complied to support encryption or there might be some bugs in the custom ROM that doesn't enable encryption or if we modify system in such a way after rooting that the encryption might be lost due to these changes.
Hence, I believe this is why Motorola says "You may lose encryption support."
This was my understanding but I wanted to get it cleared on xda.
Can anyone throw some more light on my understanding?
We can then close this thread after complete clarity to all members so this turns out to be a fruitful discussion to most members here.
Cheers!!

Milly7 said:
I unlocked my bootloader and am rooted. Device still shows as encrypted. Not sure why they issued that warning.
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Rooted via systemmode Super SU or systemless?
LAst I had checked only systemmode was able to patch the boot image.

hmnk said:
Rooted via systemmode Super SU or systemless?
LAst I had checked only systemmode was able to patch the boot image.
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Hold up, does systemless root actually work for the Z Play then? I haven't received mine yet, but I was under the impression anything systemless wouldn't work from reading around, like Magisk or systemless SuperSU.

lpchaim said:
Hold up, does systemless root actually work for the Z Play then? I haven't received mine yet, but I was under the impression anything systemless wouldn't work from reading around, like Magisk or systemless SuperSU.
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I rooted my Z Play (XT1635-02) recently using phh superuser.
Installed Magisk after that, and it seems to me it's systemless
as Adaway wouldn't work till I did the systemless hack - plus /system was read only

ozblogger said:
I rooted my Z Play (XT1635-02) recently using phh superuser.
Installed Magisk after that, and it seems to me it's systemless
as Adaway wouldn't work till I did the systemless hack - plus /system was read only
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I see, thanks. Yeah, magisk is definitely systemless, good to know it can be used normally.

Just for clarification, you can decrypt by formatting data on twrp. By just unlocking or rooting the encryption does not go away.
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Cant flash TWRP

Hey guys I'm kinda new to Android I've had a chappy phone and now an LG g pad after attempting root about a dozen times I finally managed to get it root now I am trying to get TWRP to backup the tablet and change the boot animation later but every time I tried on my pc it would fail so I installed flashify and tried with that I then I got a boot error saying security issues. The tablet stills boots but I believe the problem is the locked boot loader. Thanks for any help offered.
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Look at this thread where some options for flashing TWRP are discussed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g-pad-83/help/recovery-mode-t2880087
Okay thanks ill check it out
Btw i think my boot loader is locked will this affect it?
Thanks
rooing problems
Joshhi said:
Btw i think my boot loader is locked will this affect it?
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Have you installed root checker or another program to confirm that you do, in fact, have root? Start with that.
If you haven't installed a superuser app to handle permissions, I'd do that as well before trying to install TWRP.
I'll admit I had troubles installing TWRP as well, when looking at the forums, make sure you're downloading the version for your EXACT version of android and firmware, and following the instructions for the right version as well. Good luck!
yojimboj said:
Have you installed root checker or another program to confirm that you do, in fact, have root? Start with that.
If you haven't installed a superuser app to handle permissions, I'd do that as well before trying to install TWRP.
I'll admit I had troubles installing TWRP as well, when looking at the forums, make sure you're downloading the version for your EXACT version of android and firmware, and following the instructions for the right version as well. Good luck!
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I got it flashed yesterday forgot to post that so i tried to change the boot animation and soft bricked it luckily i backed up
Joshhi said:
I got it flashed yesterday forgot to post that so i tried to change the boot animation and soft bricked it luckily i backed up
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Will be good if you share how you doit, becouse i have a same problem. Tnx
adler123 said:
Will be good if you share how you doit, becouse i have a same problem. Tnx
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Do what? Unbricked it or flashed twrp?
Joshhi said:
Do what? Unbricked it or flashed twrp?
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flashed twrp to v50020d
atomicblue said:
flashed twrp to v50020d
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I believe it was this
Further in the thread they tell you that you have to change the command from v500-20a to d
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698267
I also think youll have to flash the latest version of twrp from a zip manually

Will android pay work if I'm un-encrypted but not rooted?

Has anyone tried following the steps from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUq1xdJ-7-E
but stopping before flashing the superSU? Will android pay work after a reboot?
As long as you are using the stock ROM and not rooted, I don't think it will be a problem.
I followed that guide and even flashed superSU, but when I realized Android pay won't work with root, I unrooted. I was then able to add my cards in Android pay. Hopefully purchases go through fine, no reason they wouldn't as long as you aren't rooted or modified the stock ROM.
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thesoldier said:
As long as you are using the stock ROM and not rooted, I don't think it will be a problem.
I followed that guide and even flashed superSU, but when I realized Android pay won't work with root, I unrooted. I was then able to add my cards in Android pay. Hopefully purchases go through fine, no reason they wouldn't as long as you aren't rooted or modified the stock ROM.
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Let us know if it works! I want to unencrypt but I don't want to lose any functionality and I don't mind being unrooted for now.
nvertigo said:
Let us know if it works! I want to unencrypt but I don't want to lose any functionality and I don't mind being unrooted for now.
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Yep works fine. Unrooted last week and tried today and it worked.
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thesoldier said:
Yep works fine. Unrooted last week and tried today and it worked.
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hi thesoldier,
Does Android Pay still work after a reboot? Somehow I read somewhere on forum it doesn't work after reboot.
And is your recovery TWRP?
Do you notice any performance increase when taking multiple pictures after decryption?
Thanks,
Jack
ubcjack said:
hi thesoldier,
Does Android Pay still work after a reboot? Somehow I read somewhere on forum it doesn't work after reboot.
And is your recovery TWRP?
Do you notice any performance increase when taking multiple pictures after decryption?
Thanks,
Jack
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I'm also curious about the picture speed without encryption.
Ajfink said:
I'm also curious about the picture speed without encryption.
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Since my last post I've unencrypted my phone (not rooted).
Android pay works, even after reboot. Performance increase is huge, especially the camera.
nvertigo said:
Since my last post I've unencrypted my phone (not rooted).
Android pay works, even after reboot. Performance increase is huge, especially the camera.
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Can someone please point me to a guide or provide some direction as to how one unencrypts without rooting? The majority of guides here are about rooting which I am not interested in. In fact, I thought I had to root to unencrypt. Apparently not, based on the above comment.
Thanks,
Derek
Just follow the video ^^ to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP and format data. After the format the encryption is gone. Then just do not flash SuperSU if you do not want root.
berndblb said:
Just follow the video ^^ to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP and format data. After the format the encryption is gone. Then just do not flash SuperSU if you do not want root.
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i am using Chroma 11-30 on my nexus 5X
can i backup my data, then go to TWRP and format data, then I get a decrypted rom?
someone said I need flashing a force decrypt kernel.. i am confused.

Device is not certified

So apparently there has been an update and all my devices are now showing up as uncertified in the Play store. Anyone seen a new work around for this while running custom ROMs?
On the bright side it seems devices that you side load apps too, still get updates for the moment.
Stock OOS 5.1.4 UBL is also uncertified :|
Anyone else have this issue on Stock OOS with unlocked BL??
I've never seen my device be certified since I began using this phone. Is it normal for UBL phones to be uncertified even if they aren't rooted?
TechieTwinToes said:
Anyone else have this issue on Stock OOS with unlocked BL??
I've never seen my device be certified since I began using this phone. Is it normal for UBL phones to be uncertified even if they aren't rooted?
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Mine is certified with unlocked bootloader and root (on latest openbeta)
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alessandro_xda said:
Mine is certified with unlocked bootloader and root (on latest openbeta)
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Hey alessandro,
Does disabling Play Protect have any role in this? I keep it disabled because I side-load many apps.
OhioYJ said:
So apparently there has been an update and all my devices are now showing up as uncertified in the Play store. Anyone seen a new work around for this while running custom ROMs?
On the bright side it seems devices that you side load apps too, still get updates for the moment.
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Sorry, your account has been flagged for piracy, so you'll have to reflash every 7 days else your account won't give up updates.
killier2653 said:
Sorry, your account has been flagged for piracy, so you'll have to reflash every 7 days else your account won't give up updates.
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That's not what it means. Custom ROMs, unlocked boot loaders, rooted devices, etc, can trigger this. Generally custom kernels or Magisk would prevent this. However not anymore . Right now I'm seeing it across 4 accounts, 8 devices, 4 different types of devices, all LOS.
Here is the fix. Just tested this on the latest build of LOS, and it works fine. Direct link to the Magisk module.
Also those directions, say they chose a Pixel fingerprint, I chose the OP 5T fingerprint, it worked just fine. My device is now certified.
OhioYJ said:
Here is the fix. Just tested this on the latest build of LOS, and it works fine. Direct link to the Magisk module.
Also those directions, say they chose a Pixel fingerprint, I chose the OP 5T fingerprint, it worked just fine. My device is now certified.
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can you pass safetynet ?
try this app
latest safetynet api
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.scottyab.safetynet.sample
AlMaghraby said:
can you pass safetynet ?
try this app
latest safetynet api
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.scottyab.safetynet.sample
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I tried that app, yes it passes. Both CTS profile and Basic Integrity come back true.
(Obviously adding that app to the hide list)
OhioYJ said:
I tried that app, yes it passes. Both CTS profile and Basic Integrity come back true.
(Obviously adding that app to the hide list)
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thank you so much that was the only thing preventing me from updating

Time to root! So, can the LG Q7+ be rooted?

Now that the Q7+ is out in mass can it be rooted? I know you can unlock it but can be rooted and if so what are
some of the ways it's been done? Removing bloatware is a big motivation for rooting for me.
Cheers!
95south said:
Now that the Q7+ is out in mass can it be rooted? I know you can unlock it but can be rooted and if so what are
some of the ways it's been done? Removing bloatware is a big motivation for rooting for me.
Cheers!
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No root is possible with this device, Bootloader cannot be unlocked.
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If I have Metro Pcs Q7+ LM-Q610MA, can it be unlocked. Because the option for OEM unlock is available in the dev. Options. Anyway I've never done it, and figure I use the twrp app and that's a wrap.
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If I have Metro Pcs Q7+ LM-Q610MA, can it be unlocked. Because the option for OEM unlock is available in the dev. Options. Anyway I've never done it, and figure I use the twrp app and that's a wrap.
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No it cannot be unlocked
Bootloader unlock and rooting are two different things.
And what about apps like KingRoot, Kingoo Root etc?
pawwaap said:
Bootloader unlock and rooting are two different things.
And what about apps like KingRoot, Kingoo Root etc?
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I have tried every method out there, KingRoot, Kingoo Root etc do not work on this device.
And have you updated Android system on first run?
The ubdate process starts automatically, it needs disabling in settings.
From box yet the system version is dated as 1 may 2018, and very agressivelly wants to update itself
It's obvious the newer system update the less probability KingRoot manages it!
An another question, have you tried to root via KingRoot or KingooRoot, but NOT an apk run on Android - but exe run from PC and connecting through USB cable?
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And have you updated Android system on first run?
The ubdate process starts automatically, it needs disabling in settings.
From box yet the system version is dated as 1 may 2018, and very agressivelly wants to update itself
It's obvious the newer system update the less probability KingRoot manages it!
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An another question, have you tried to root via KingRoot or KingooRoot, but NOT an apk run on Android - but exe run from PC and connecting through USB cable?
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Like I said, "I have tried every method out there". tried before and after updating no luck.
Maybe developers from KingRoot, KingoRoot etc. will find some exploit within this system, to enable obtaining root without touching bootloader
And indeed did you try with KingoRoot on PC? I tried to try, as KingoRoot didn't want to get installed on MS Win. As part of installation it downloads something from Internet, but it has been stuck exactly on 10% of progress bar.
Repeated on another komputer and the same: stuck on 10%! Have you experienced anything like this? So, how have you tried to root through KingoRoot from PC if the program can't install at all on a computer?

Question SafetyNet not passing after flashing global rom and locking Bootloader

As the title says, tried Xiaomi EU for a month, did not like it , flashed the global rom with MIFlash tool, everything fine till i tried to use banking apps.
Any way to know whats the error here? I am aware that using magisk modules might help bypassing SafetyNet but i prefer not to root the device.
Checked twice to be sure the bootloader was actually locked, it is.
Thanks in advance
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idk but i guess, you could try unlocking it and flash global rom again but this time use mi flash tool clean all and lock option
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idk but i guess, you could try unlocking it and flash global rom again but this time use mi flash tool clean all and lock option
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That's what he's done m8
luislalc64 said:
As the title says, tried Xiaomi EU for a month, did not like it , flashed the global rom with MIFlash tool, everything fine till i tried to use banking apps.
Any way to know whats the error here? I am aware that using magisk modules might help bypassing SafetyNet but i prefer not to root the device.
Checked twice to be sure the bootloader was actually locked, it is.
Thanks in advance
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Not the most helpful tip, but you could try factory resetting your phone...
Then, I would immediately check SafetyNet, and while setting up your phone, installing all the apps & dialing in all the settings, keep checking that SafetyNet still passes...
If it fails immediately, something is wrong at the core.
I think you can reflash the Stock ROM when Bootloader is locked, but it has to be the right region.
idk then, a locked bootloader with safetynet not passing is weird
3zozHashim said:
idk then, a locked bootloader with safetynet not passing is weird
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Yeah lol. I haven't seen such an issue, but I'm not surprised with Google.
cyanGalaxy said:
Not the most helpful tip, but you could try factory resetting your phone...
Then, I would immediately check SafetyNet, and while setting up your phone, installing all the apps & dialing in all the settings, keep checking that SafetyNet still passes...
If it fails immediately, something is wrong at the core.
I think you can reflash the Stock ROM when Bootloader is locked, but it has to be the right region.
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It does fail immediately after setup, just also checked I'm flashing correct rom for my device
Something I forgot to mention, after flashing stock rom every time the phone boots up a small message show "Find device storage corrupted, device is unsafe now" I've been reading about it, and it seems is an issue with the persist partition.
luislalc64 said:
Something I forgot to mention, after flashing stock rom every time the phone boots up a small message show "Find device storage corrupted, device is unsafe now" I've been reading about it, and it seems is an issue with the persist partition.
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Wow I recently saw the same message, for the first time!
I had recently clean-flashed MIUI and then ArrowOS, and while on MIUI I saw the same message. I had never seen that before.
I wonder what's behind that. I googled it, and you're right... Something about the Persist-partition...
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idk but i guess, you could try unlocking it and flash global rom again but this time use mi flash tool clean all and lock opt
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3zozHashim said:
idk but i guess, you could try unlocking it and flash global rom again but this time use mi flash tool clean all and lock option
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I agree I would just reflash and not unlock the boot loader and makesure you got the latest fastboot rom for the device , PS running Eu weekly and love it don't know why on gods green earth you woul;d choose stock over it

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