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[Q] Wanted: PC headset to Phone cable.

Here's the deal, I have a small collection of gaming/pc headsets(razers/steelseries/trittons all sponsored in my pro gaming period) and only two pair of normal headphones. I use my SteelSeries neckband and headphones sometimes because they have an awesome bass and look cool. There is a microphone hidden in these headphones as well, and I would say there should be some kind of cable that has a 3.5 mic in and audio in and a 4pin 3.5 out for the galaxy S2. So I can use both the audio and the mic.
I used my friend google and I found the following:
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&cp=4&gs_id=29&xhr=t&q=pc+headset+to+3.5mm+smartphone+adapter&qe=cGMgaA&qesig=tM4cup1KEJemBtxxpqrirA&pkc=AFgZ2tk_5dh5YJYc691SObKN5mTN3OqgOESNctEIvUfoUHsuSRAyQDC24IUYAQeNE1bhwhFqcZm0hnF1-WXZsNFXi7TwYNZeVQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1093&bih=893&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9156662057160349843&sa=X&ei=I7AVToeKKIGz8QPuhPUE&sqi=2&ved=0CCQQ8wIwAA
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&cp=4&gs_id=29&xhr=t&q=pc+headset+to+3.5mm+smartphone+adapter&qe=cGMgaA&qesig=tM4cup1KEJemBtxxpqrirA&pkc=AFgZ2tk_5dh5YJYc691SObKN5mTN3OqgOESNctEIvUfoUHsuSRAyQDC24IUYAQeNE1bhwhFqcZm0hnF1-WXZsNFXi7TwYNZeVQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1093&bih=893&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=8734488514306453551&sa=X&ei=I7AVToeKKIGz8QPuhPUE&sqi=2&ved=0CCsQ8wIwAg
Any idea if these work? Somebody has experience with one of these cables? Also, is this really the cheapest solution? 15 buck for a cable on ebay/amazon seems expensive (although its not really an issue, since I can use 500 euros worth of headphones.)

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What is the best audio converter via usb type-c?

Hello, I have broken the pixel 2 adapter after having used it for more than 2 months, very poor construction quality and very normal audio. I'm looking for an adapter that delivers better audio quality and if it can be more power, it does not matter the price but it's not crazy either. I have some Audio Technica Ath-m40x and some in-ear Fiio F9. I was looking at a post that compared some adapters and what you can appreciate is that the HTC adapter is much better and apparently the better than the razer. Anyone recommend me another or with this I will be happy?

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Galeonero said:
Hello, I have broken the pixel 2 adapter after having used it for more than 2 months, very poor construction quality and very normal audio. I'm looking for an adapter that delivers better audio quality and if it can be more power, it does not matter the price but it's not crazy either. I have some Audio Technica Ath-m40x and some in-ear Fiio F9. I was looking at a post that compared some adapters and what you can appreciate is that the HTC adapter is much better and apparently the better than the razer. Anyone recommend me another or with this I will be happy?
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I recommend Apple's USB-C to 3.5 mm Headphone Jack Adapter.
- smaller and slimmer compared to Google's adapter
- no echo (in calls)
- quieter than the Google adapter, as noted here
The quieter volume is a blessing for those with sensitive IEMs, where even the lowest volume can be too loud. Especially in WhatsApp voice calls.
With Google's adapter and my (sensitive) Shure SE215s, even the lowest volume on my Pixel 2 was often too loud. Using the Apple USB-C to 3.5 mm adapter, I have more leeway: previously uncomfortably loud voice calls are now perfect.

Thank you for your response, I bought the Hidizs Sonata hd cable v2 about 2 months ago. It is an excellent purchase

Galeonero said:
Thank you for your response, I bought the Hidizs Sonata hd cable v2 about 2 months ago. It is an excellent purchase
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Really? I just ordered one befor a week well still waiting the SONATA HD 2 because i get very crazy about this quit volume of the pixel and not so good sound the main reason to order the Sonata even with earbuds with about 30 Oms indemendance volume to the max doesnt sound as loud as they have to... compared to my old HTC 10 with loud and crystal Hi Res Audio so im wondering the the Sonata will improve that.

tsalta said:
Really? I just ordered one befor a week well still waiting the SONATA HD 2 because i get very crazy about this quit volume of the pixel and not so good sound the main reason to order the Sonata even with earbuds with about 30 Oms indemendance volume to the max doesnt sound as loud as they have to... compared to my old HTC 10 with loud and crystal Hi Res Audio so im wondering the the Sonata will improve that.
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Look, my overall score is 4/5.
It has a LOT of power, I use it with my Fiio F9 PRO and Audio Technica ATH M40X I do not pass 30%. The sound is good, I think it's better than the google dongle but it's not the big thing as they say on their website, do not expect an extraordinary quality sound but it's not bad at all.
The construction is quite good and durable, although you have to be very careful as well, my advice is that when you have it connected and put it in your pocket, put it up on the connector and that it is inside the adapter, that only the cable comes out .
I really like that you have a case so you keep it and it does not break because you put it in your backpack and it hits you.
But like any Dongle that connects via usb-c has its counter and is that it disconnects very easy and I suspect that it can break faster the smartphone connector.
I do not recommend it because it is uncomfortable to take it, it is better to buy the Fiio bluetooth adapter BTR3 or the EarStudio ES100

Galeonero said:
Look, my overall score is 4/5.
It has a LOT of power, I use it with my Fiio F9 PRO and Audio Technica ATH M40X I do not pass 30%. The sound is good, I think it's better than the google dongle but it's not the big thing as they say on their website, do not expect an extraordinary quality sound but it's not bad at all.
The construction is quite good and durable, although you have to be very careful as well, my advice is that when you have it connected and put it in your pocket, put it up on the connector and that it is inside the adapter, that only the cable comes out .
I really like that you have a case so you keep it and it does not break because you put it in your backpack and it hits you.
But like any Dongle that connects via usb-c has its counter and is that it disconnects very easy and I suspect that it can break faster the smartphone connector.
I do not recommend it because it is uncomfortable to take it, it is better to buy the Fiio bluetooth adapter BTR3 or the EarStudio ES100
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Thanks for the advice im planing to use it with some of mine Hi res Earbuds a nd Headphones that i love to use back when i had a JACK on my HTC so will compae the quality with that Sonata and the same earphones earbuds using external DAC like Sonata compared to the build in in HTC 10 i hope at least the sound to be close as posible.

tsalta said:
Thanks for the advice im planing to use it with some of mine Hi res Earbuds a nd Headphones that i love to use back when i had a JACK on my HTC so will compae the quality with that Sonata and the same earphones earbuds using external DAC like Sonata compared to the build in in HTC 10 i hope at least the sound to be close as posible.
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Many people say that it has a sound very similar to or better than the LG V20 and v30. But honestly I have no idea I never tried one

USB C + 3.5mm Cable?

I bought this "3 in 1 USB C Aux Adapter" cable to use in my car but it doesn't seem to work right with my car for some reason.
When my Pixel 3 is plugged into the USB C side it only outputs the left channel
When my Pixel 3 is plugged into the 3.5mm w/ an adapter it only outputs the right channel
With my iPod Classic plugged into the 3.5mm side it seems to output both L and R channels
Anyone know of a similar type cable that definitely works with the Pixel 3? I don't really want to have to use an adapter.
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Well, slightly embarrassing but I actually wired up the aux cable incorrectly in my car. All is well and the cable works properly.

ramdyc said:
I bought this "3 in 1 USB C Aux Adapter" cable to use in my car but it doesn't seem to work right with my car for some reason.
When my Pixel 3 is plugged into the USB C side it only outputs the left channel
When my Pixel 3 is plugged into the 3.5mm w/ an adapter it only outputs the right channel
With my iPod Classic plugged into the 3.5mm side it seems to output both L and R channels
Anyone know of a similar type cable that definitely works with the Pixel 3? I don't really want to have to use an adapter.
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Let me preface...I'm definitely not an expert in the whole audio conversion area. I did start doing some light research a while back regarding USB-C --> 3.5mm adapters because I noticed that the dongle provided with the Pixel 3 caused sound quality issues with my 3.5mm Bose buds. I fly on airplanes a lot and noticed the sound output volume is significantly less with the dongle and 3.5mm headphones than using the USB-C Pixel buds. From what I've been able to gather is that the digital audio converter (DAC) chip built into most of these dongles is garbage or nonexistent.
Regarding the 2-in-1 adapter / chargers...I was also looking to buy something where I could listen to my 3.5mm buds and charge my phone at the same time BUT I stumbled across some article that basically said none of those work. If I remember correctly it had something to do with the phone itself, I think it was software related?? Maybe do some searching on this but I remember reading enough stuff where it sounded like a scammy product line so I didn't purchase. Maybe this has something to do with your L vs R channel issue??
Back to the regular dongle converter...you know how things are on Amazon sometimes, 3rd party vendors can be shady and say something is higher quality when it's really not which has made me hesitant to pull the trigger on a slightly more expensive dongle. That said, I finally purchased one today that is definitely a bit more expensive than others but it seems legit and I've found reviews in other forums referencing it. Here the link: https://www.adv-sound.com/products/accessport-lite (it can also be found on Amazon).
It should arrive in a few days so I can report back but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that audio output volume / quality isn't lost like it is with the standard dongle.

Alright, the Accessport-Lite (APL) converter arrived today. Here's what I think...regular 3.5mm headphones (I'm using Bose buds) into APL into device are definitely higher quality sound than using the converter that came in box with Pixel. You can hear more background noise, overall it's more crisp and max volume is a little bit louder, not as loud as I was hoping for however but an improvement that will make a difference when flying.
Another option...I picked up a 3.5mm splitter months ago so two people could listen at the same time. I noticed that 3.5mm headphones into splitter into Pixel box converter into device actually has higher max volume than simply headphones into Pixel box converter. Go figure. Splitters are really cheap at electronic stores. Although, I would recommend buying one from the audio equipment section as opposed to the phone section. They really upcharge you for the same exact thing that's supposed to be "specially made for a phone" which is garbage.
I also tried 3.5mm headphones into splitter into APL converter, sound quality wasn't noticably better than just APL. If anything some of the crispness seemed less.
Pixel Buds straight into device remain the loudest option. However, they do not cancel or shut out loud background noise like when flying so peak volume means nothing.
Long story short...I'm decently satisfied with the APL converter. Didn't blow me away but you can tell it's quality made and every but counts when trying to overcome loud airplane noise.

Carppopotamus said:
Maybe this has something to do with your L vs R channel issue??
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Well, slightly embarrassing but I actually just had the aux cable in my car wired up incorrectly lol
Carppopotamus said:
Long story short...I'm decently satisfied with the APL converter. Didn't blow me away but you can tell it's quality made and every but counts when trying to overcome loud airplane noise.
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Thanks for the heads up on this adapter! Definitely good to know about. I've seen good things about the Apple adapter too but have also seen reports of it not working properly? Have you tried that one? At $9 it's definitely on the cheaper end.

ramdyc said:
Well, slightly embarrassing but I actually just had the aux cable in my car wired up incorrectly lol
Thanks for the heads up on this adapter! Definitely good to know about. I've seen good things about the Apple adapter too but have also seen reports of it not working properly? Have you tried that one? At $9 it's definitely on the cheaper end.
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I haven't tried the Apple one

ramdyc said:
Well, slightly embarrassing but I actually just had the aux cable in my car wired up incorrectly lol
Thanks for the heads up on this adapter! Definitely good to know about. I've seen good things about the Apple adapter too but have also seen reports of it not working properly? Have you tried that one? At $9 it's definitely on the cheaper end.
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I've been using the Apple USB-C to 3.5mm adapter for half a year. I like it: the Google adapter was too loud on lowest volume, and had an issue with echo in calls when using earbuds with a mic (Shure SE215). The Apple fixes all these issues and is smaller and lighter.

Accessories Recommended USB to headphone adapter

OK, this question is not specific to the Fold, but as this is my 1st phone without a headphone jack, I'm asking it here.
What USB-Headphone adapter do you recommend?
I have a set of Panasonic earbuds which sound good (especially with the ear cushions from my previous set of Sony Earbuds), and I'd like to keep using them.
My Buds+ won't stay in my ears inside my hearing protectors while I'm out mowing, and my Sony wireless earbuds are too large to even try.
Plus wired buds won't drain the phone battery as much as bluetooth buds will.

Hey, pTeronaut!!
To help you with a recommendation, I've searched and found some USB to Headphone adapters on BestBuy. These prices are $9 to $20. Some reputable branded adapters you can purchase for your need like. Apple USB to Headphone, Insignia, Samsung USB type. I have attached some pictures look and get your favorite one.
#wavoyi

I bought this mostly because it was cheap and would let me charge at the same time. It seems to work well
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08LTVDSTK/

My old Google Pixel 2 USB-C dongle works fine

I have been looking for one WITHOUT DAC. Since the DAC built in the phone is AKG Tuned, should be a Hi-Fi!

Question Analog audio output via USB-C?

I just finished reading this review on the Galaxy S21 FE and noticed it doesn't have a headphone jack. I'm okay with that as long as the USB-C port supports analog audio output to cheapo USB-C earphones.
So my question: Is analog audio output via USB-C supported? Or is this device like a Pixel phone and requires more expensive earphones with a DAC chip built into them?
Samsung Galaxy S21 FE Review: Good phone, wrong price
The Samsung Galaxy S21 FE is a great smartphone, but you should not buy it at full price. Click to read our full review.
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Only digital. The dongle has to have a DAC in it or whatever audio device you are connecting it to. The Samsung one works fine except it's hanging from the bottom of the phone... not good.

blackhawk said:
Only digital. The dongle has to have a DAC in it or whatever audio device you are connecting it to. The Samsung one works fine except it's hanging from the bottom of the phone... not good.
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Thanks. Yeah, that's a deal breaker. I really like using cheapo earphones at work, whether they be 3.5mm jack or USB-C (analog). Having DAC outside the phone is cumbersome and Bluetooth earphones are too much fuss.

zpunout said:
Thanks. Yeah, that's a deal breaker. I really like using cheapo earphones at work, whether they be 3.5mm jack or USB-C (analog). Having DAC outside the phone is cumbersome and Bluetooth earphones are too much fuss.
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The Buds+ sound better or as good as cheap earbuds or phones. They're light, don't come out and have a long run time.
Not perfect but pretty good... Samsung should have kept the 3.5 jack.
Dropping the SD card slot in their recent flagship phones lost them my purchase. Got another new Note 10+ instead.
In 2-3 years if they continue to chase Apple... they are dead to me.

blackhawk said:
The Buds+ sound better or as good as cheap earbuds or phones. They're light, don't come out and have a long run time.
Not perfect but pretty good... Samsung should have kept the 3.5 jack.
Dropping the SD card slot in their recent flagship phones lost them my purchase. Got another new Note 10+ instead.
In 2-3 years if they continue to chase Apple... they are dead to me.
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I agree. This whole 3.5 jack non-issue is proving to be the most frustrating "progress" that manufacturers have made. Let's not forget that at first, the sole reason that Apple did this was because the jack "did not fit". Apparently all other manufacturers realized the same thing although they have no problem in making phones bigger than 6.7 inches. Nowadays it's just an excuse to sell expensive gear to people and these wireless buds do not solve the problem. I have perfectly good headphones that do not require charging and that do not fall out of my ears but I cannot listen to them no matter what I do. Dongles are crap quality with background noise and there's nothing you can do about it. It's funny but a few years ago, you actually felt that phones were capable of doing everything but now... not so much.

Randi03 said:
I agree. This whole 3.5 jack non-issue is proving to be the most frustrating "progress" that manufacturers have made. Let's not forget that at first, the sole reason that Apple did this was because the jack "did not fit". Apparently all other manufacturers realized the same thing although they have no problem in making phones bigger than 6.7 inches. Nowadays it's just an excuse to sell expensive gear to people and these wireless buds do not solve the problem. I have perfectly good headphones that do not require charging and that do not fall out of my ears but I cannot listen to them no matter what I do. Dongles are crap quality with background noise and there's nothing you can do about it. It's funny but a few years ago, you actually felt that phones were capable of doing everything but now... not so much.
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I totally get why the removal of a space consuming century old standard 3.5mm jack happened, but why the removal of internal DAC for analog audio out via USB-C? I like to have earplugs which can dangle from my shirt while I'm not talking on my phone. I used Bluetooth for a while but they got neglected because I always forgot to take them out of my toolbag and charge them. Also, they couldn't dangle from my shirt because of the no wires thing. How much extra does it cost to manufacture a phone with internal DAC via USB-C?

I have no idea honestly. Whenever I try to think of a logical answer, it always boils down to marketing and reducing costs of manufacturing while also making more money from accessories. They are trying so hard to push these wireless buds to customers that they would do anything so that we spend more money on them or on the accessories for wired headphones. Just look at the S21 FE, the pre-order came with buds included. The new P50 PRO from Huawei, also pushed the wireless earphones with it's offer. And people still hate these dang things but somehow they don't care. At this rate I'm going back to physical mp3's )

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