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I was thinking about buying one of these.
Does anyone else have one? Are they an good?
I have just a basic usb to 3.5 headphone adapter, and I use iPod headphones.
Sounds great to me.
phuKKah said:
I have just a basic usb to 3.5 headphone adapter, and I use iPod headphones.
Sounds great to me.
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Yea, I bought those and they are being shipped to me right now.
But I think that the stereo bluetooth adapter seems pretty convenient, no?
If HTC shipped a bluetooth adapter like this, I wouldn't complain about the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack
Or you could just get stereo BT headphones and forget the wires and adapters!
phatmanxxl said:
Or you could just get stereo BT headphones and forget the wires and adapters!
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No stereo bluetooth headphones can compare to my Shure earbuds.
Plus I think that most stereo bluetooth headphones are clunky.
Do you have a nice pair though? any recomendations?
I got one from ebay as well. I paid less than that, but it's still the same. They all are manufactured in China. I use mine everyday. Good sound quality, works right out of the box. I haven't really had any problems.
I only have two complaints. 1. You cant use them while charging, as the charger shown in the third picture is plugged into the headphone port. Strange, yes but it works. That is not really that much a problem, because it has great battery life! 2. No matter what I do, I cannot connect it to my computer to stream music from my computer to the A2d2p adapter. (or whatever it's called, lol) If you come up with a solution after you get yours, please post, or email me.
For me, price was an issue. I didn't want to spend a whole lot of money to listen to music from my phone, but I wanted good sound quality. Regular Bluetooth Stereo Headphones are expensive. For me, this was the way to go. I bought this and a pair of Sony wrap around headphones, and I am rockin'. I think you will be pleased.
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PS - I have attached the manual I got from a Chinese Suppliers site, as one doesn't come with it. At least not with mine. (Maybe thats why I got mine cheaper, lol)
PSS - And you know they are not only headphone adapters, but can be used for calls as well. It is kind of awkward to hold the adapter up to talk to someone, but I usually just clip it on my lapel. OK, done editing now.
skyline247 said:
I got one from ebay as well. I paid less than that, but it's still the same. They all are manufactured in China. I use mine everyday. Good sound quality, works right out of the box. I haven't really had any problems.
I only have two complaints. 1. You cant use them while charging, as the charger shown in the third picture is plugged into the headphone port. Strange, yes but it works. That is not really that much a problem, because it has great battery life! 2. No matter what I do, I cannot connect it to my computer to stream music from my computer to the A2d2p adapter. (or whatever it's called, lol) If you come up with a solution after you get yours, please post, or email me.
For me, price was an issue. I didn't want to spend a whole lot of money to listen to music from my phone, but I wanted good sound quality. Regular Bluetooth Stereo Headphones are expensive. For me, this was the way to go. I bought this and a pair of Sony wrap around headphones, and I am rockin'. I think you will be pleased.
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PS - I have attached the manual I got from a Chinese Suppliers site, as one doesn't come with it. At least not with mine. (Maybe thats why I got mine cheaper, lol)
PSS - And you know they are not only headphone adapters, but can be used for calls as well. It is kind of awkward to hold the adapter up to talk to someone, but I usually just clip it on my lapel. OK, done editing now.
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Nice! Thank you for the information!
I think I'm going to get one, I just have to be careful because most of the ones they are selling on Ebay only have UK outlet plugins. I live in the US, and it looks like you do too by the picture of your plug.
I have these:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DRBT21G-...?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1246133334&sr=8-29
Great sound, comfy and durable as hell.
But I think im going to try out these next as I want something smaller and lighter, Im still shoppin though for a newer pair:
http://www.amazon.com/Plantronics-V..._1_6?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1246133213&sr=8-6
phatmanxxl said:
I have these:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DRBT21G-...?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1246133334&sr=8-29
Great sound, comfy and durable as hell.
But I think im going to try out these next as I want something smaller and lighter, Im still shoppin though for a newer pair:
http://www.amazon.com/Plantronics-V..._1_6?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1246133213&sr=8-6
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Cool dude. The Voyager ones look nice, but I think I'm gonna go the cheap route and just get the converter.
I have one of these:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?cc=CA&lc=en
It's a Sony Ericsson DS-200 which I bought last year specifically so I could plug some decent headphones in!
I think it was fairly expensive - about £50 when I bought it, but it has worked great with anything that I've wanted to pair with it, including my Excalibur.
But it's far better than using a wired headset with a 3.5 jack in my opinion, because if you use "proper" earphones that come with a long-ish cord then combine that with the long-ish cord from the wired headset then it makes for some nightmareish tangles! Using A2DP seems like freedom in comparison!
Highly recommended
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I have one of these:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?cc=CA&lc=en
It's a Sony Ericsson DS-200 which I bought last year specifically so I could plug some decent headphones in!
I think it was fairly expensive - about £50 when I bought it, but it has worked great with anything that I've wanted to pair with it, including my Excalibur.
But it's far better than using a wired headset with a 3.5 jack in my opinion, because if you use "proper" earphones that come with a long-ish cord then combine that with the long-ish cord from the wired headset then it makes for some nightmareish tangles! Using A2DP seems like freedom in comparison!
Highly recommended
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Wow, I didn't even know that Sony had a product like this.
Thank you for showing me it
jeonatl3 said:
I have one of these:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/hbh-ds200?cc=CA&lc=en
It's a Sony Ericsson DS-200 which I bought last year specifically so I could plug some decent headphones in!
I think it was fairly expensive - about £50 when I bought it, but it has worked great with anything that I've wanted to pair with it, including my Excalibur.
But it's far better than using a wired headset with a 3.5 jack in my opinion, because if you use "proper" earphones that come with a long-ish cord then combine that with the long-ish cord from the wired headset then it makes for some nightmareish tangles! Using A2DP seems like freedom in comparison!
Highly recommended
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Lol about the longish cord, gave up on wired headsets as the ammont of times i'd rip the cord when cycling, i'm using STAK semi enclosed cans made for 3 network they were cheap bout £30 and give loud playback with comfortability and like post above a2dp makes listening to music far more enjoyable skippin tracks in an instant answering calls in an instant...
BT is the deffenat way to go
Then cap it off with PocketPlayer....
stylez said:
Lol about the longish cord, gave up on wired headsets as the ammont of times i'd rip the cord when cycling, i'm using STAK semi enclosed cans made for 3 network they were cheap bout £30 and give loud playback with comfortability and like post above a2dp makes listening to music far more enjoyable skippin tracks in an instant answering calls in an instant...
BT is the deffenat way to go
Then cap it off with PocketPlayer....
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I'm using Sennheiser CX300, not audiophile grade by any means but certainly better than bundled headphones or stuff like that, they're great.
I love impressing people on the bus by hiding the A2DP receiver in a pocket and then watching a movie or something on my phone, I've had a few people who were watching over my shoulder anyway ask me how I was listening to the sound! Hehe
I would like to be able to connect my Evo to my car so that I can listen to Pandora using the car stereo. Unfortunately my car only has an Ipod dock connector.
Would it be possible to create an adapter that will allow you to connect an HTC Evo to an Ipod dock and output audio?
I have seen something similar being done with a T-Mobile G1.
webnetta.com/2008/12/27/hack-connects-t-mobile-g1-to-ipod-dock/
Is it just as simple as getting a Ipod dock extender cable like this one:
monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10831&cs_id=1083101&p_id=6828
and cutting off the male and of this cable and soldering it to a male end of microusb cable?
Any help would be appreciated.
this is a huge area where android needs improvement.
There's no audio through the Evo USB port. I was searching for the same thing last night. I have a logitech ipod speaker: (can't post links)
I also have this ipod bluetooth adapter:
What I'm thinking about doing is to hardwire the bluetooth adapter to the inside of the speaker. Then get the 5v from the dock and make a cable or adapter to go to the Evo's mini usb port. It's not the best solution, but I do have all of the parts already. If I didn't, headphones would suffice.
find the schematic for the ipod dock and solder a headphone jack to the audio inputs on the connector and you're done. I have done the same thing and it worked just fine for my friend that I did it for.
the thing that sucks about that is you will need an extra cable to charge the phone.
speedracerbubba said:
find the schematic for the ipod dock and solder a headphone jack to the audio inputs on the connector and you're done. I have done the same thing and it worked just fine for my friend that I did it for.
the thing that sucks about that is you will need an extra cable to charge the phone.
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Hence my bluetooth idea.
I did some digging around a couple weeks ago and came across this
talkandroid.com/guides/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/
It sucks you need the 3.5 adapter, but better than letting letting a perfectly good dock sit and collect dust.
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I just ordered a couple of these last week. My car has an ipod adapter, and this should let me connect to that and connect the 3mm to my EVO.
It's coming from Hong Kong so may be a bit longer before it's delivered. I'll report back when I get it.
I can't post links yet - go to bestofferbuy.com and search
"3.5mm Male to iPod/iPhone 2G/3G/3GS Female Adapter Cable - Black (95CM-Length)"
It's $2.60 shipped so I bought two. Can't go wrong for 5bucks
oooo ^ good find. picked up two myself.
I've been using one of these in my car for about 6 months now, originally it was to have audio from netbook. It has now been doing me good on the evo.
*correct the link and bingo... Cant post the real link because of my noobness
w w w.cablejive.com/products/Dock-Input-Cable.html
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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Step 1: Buy some Sugru or ShapeLock
Step 2: Buy Cheapie $1 headphones
Step 3: Buy iPod female Dock connector and MicroUSB Male end
Step 4: Use Pinout.ru to connect the points appropriately (iPod dock connector pins are pretty small and you must work quickly or your will melt the plastic, do not forget the internal resistors if needed for your application)
Step 5: Wrap it up in Sugru or Shapelock (use hairdryer to smooth it out with your hands)
Step 6: Paint and Enjoy!
Creating custom cables and docks and such is really not that difficult, just need some decent soldering skill and patience.
You could also just buy this:
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
FIPO Bluetooth
I use this in my BMW for streaming over the bluetooth to the stereo. Works great and convient to just start the car and the Evo start playing music/podcast/etc.
FIPO Amazon Sprint search will turn up the 20 dollar adapter.
Childofthehorn said:
Creating custom cables and docks and such is really not that difficult, just need some decent soldering skill and patience.
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
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Some of us do have the necessary skills, but do not want a ugly wire staring us in the face. Also the components themselves tend to get expensive when ripping apart 3 different cords for parts... not to mention when someone tries this and melts something, then you have to go through the hassle of ordering more components. That is the main reason we come here, because someone may already be on the job.
Now..... if your offering to do it, and you have a pricetag and are willing to offer support in case it doesn't work or kills our phones or car stereos, then I am all ears. But definitely thanks for the link.
As far as BT goes, the one poster is kind of right, I think the phone industry is betting on bluetooth, although its been 15 years, and BT performance is still at best Mediocre.
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I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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now that is sweet! best solution yet!
What if we took audio out from the HDMI port?
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Also the components themselves tend to get expensive when ripping apart 3 different cords for parts... not to mention when someone tries this and melts something, then you have to go through the hassle of ordering more components.
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True, But there are those of us with drive to do something unique and have something that fits our needs exactly. DealExtreme.com is a great place to buy the cables to be ripped up and dollar stores can be a real treasure trove. Craft/ART stores also have a lot of things which can be easily repurposed.
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Now..... if your offering to do it, and you have a pricetag and are willing to offer support in case it doesn't work or kills our phones or car stereos, then I am all ears.
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I used to be a person who did his kind of work in college, but it is time consuming and repetitive. Plus, this is likely a market of people who are not willing to spend great amounts of money on handmade products. Even if someone charged $30 each it would not be worth the average techies time, but a worthwhile effort for a high school or college student with the drive to learn and perfect.
Brutal-Force said:
As far as BT goes, the one poster is kind of right, I think the phone industry is betting on bluetooth, although its been 15 years, and BT performance is still at best Mediocre.
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You are correct in MOST scenarios!
It is more of an issue not with the BT technology itself rather the way it is popularly implemented. BT does have the ability to send out very high quality audio streams and many of which are nearly lossless in quality. The issues are with the device that streams and the device that receives. The chosen connection type between the two devices must be mutual. Problem is that most BT devices streaming A2DP use only SBC coding of varied bit rate and quality.
Now if you have a really well done setup that is very thought out you can have your EVO sending out a pure 320kbps MP3 or AAC or other compatible stream direct with no conversion being done in real time to a BT receiver which is MP3, etc. stream compatible and has an excellent, typically non-chip integrated, DAC with a nice buffered output. Problem is that many BT receiver chips are made to be as cheap as possible, have crappy dacs, and push out very little power (or simply have no buffer at all) to even crappier speakers. When you combine that with real time conversion of MP3 and other formats to SBC at an even lower bit rate, you have an even worse experience.
IMO, the headphone output on the EVO does not sound that good and if you have a car that does accept MP3 320k BT streams and you use an alternative media player like meridian that allows that kind of behavior, then it should be fine for even above average car audio.
Have a Great Listening Experience!
JoeBass said:
I just ordered a couple of these last week. My car has an ipod adapter, and this should let me connect to that and connect the 3mm to my EVO.
It's coming from Hong Kong so may be a bit longer before it's delivered. I'll report back when I get it.
I can't post links yet - go to bestofferbuy.com and search
"3.5mm Male to iPod/iPhone 2G/3G/3GS Female Adapter Cable - Black (95CM-Length)"
It's $2.60 shipped so I bought two. Can't go wrong for 5bucks
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Great find! Just ordered one for myself
Childofthehorn said:
True, But there are those of us with drive to do something unique and have something that fits our needs exactly. DealExtreme.com is a great place to buy the cables to be ripped up and dollar stores can be a real treasure trove. Craft/ART stores also have a lot of things which can be easily repurposed.
I used to be a person who did his kind of work in college, but it is time consuming and repetitive. Plus, this is likely a market of people who are not willing to spend great amounts of money on handmade products. Even if someone charged $30 each it would not be worth the average techies time, but a worthwhile effort for a high school or college student with the drive to learn and perfect.
You are correct in MOST scenarios!
It is more of an issue not with the BT technology itself rather the way it is popularly implemented. BT does have the ability to send out very high quality audio streams and many of which are nearly lossless in quality. The issues are with the device that streams and the device that receives. The chosen connection type between the two devices must be mutual. Problem is that most BT devices streaming A2DP use only SBC coding of varied bit rate and quality.
Now if you have a really well done setup that is very thought out you can have your EVO sending out a pure 320kbps MP3 or AAC or other compatible stream direct with no conversion being done in real time to a BT receiver which is MP3, etc. stream compatible and has an excellent, typically non-chip integrated, DAC with a nice buffered output. Problem is that many BT receiver chips are made to be as cheap as possible, have crappy dacs, and push out very little power (or simply have no buffer at all) to even crappier speakers. When you combine that with real time conversion of MP3 and other formats to SBC at an even lower bit rate, you have an even worse experience.
IMO, the headphone output on the EVO does not sound that good and if you have a car that does accept MP3 320k BT streams and you use an alternative media player like meridian that allows that kind of behavior, then it should be fine for even above average car audio.
Have a Great Listening Experience!
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Well, that was a mouthfull. Thanks though, it helps a little. I did spend quite a while researching different Bluetooth headsets. But alas, as you have pointed out, although most of what is considered to be high end headsets, still only use bluetooth 2.0. The EVO also doesn't do a very good job at streaming bluetooth. Pandora and Music Player skip horribly. I was not aware that Meridian did a better job. I guess, that might have been another option.
As far as the bluetooth headsets go though, if your looking for A2DP, the selection is still limited, unless you want a dongle type headset, which IMO, you might as well use a wire. The Motorola, Rocketfish and Jabra headsets of top end just don't do as good a job as seating properly, unless you spend 50+ dollars on a custom ear piece.
There really are a lot of trade-offs in audio performance, but a good set high quality ear buds or headphones are hard to beat. Then comes the Car audio as well as home audio into play. I use mine as a MP3 player both on the go and in the car. My car has a Audio In jack, so I am happy with that.
I ordered a E5 Amplifier to go with mine, it should be here in a week or two. While my headset has finally broken in, I could do with about 10-20% more volume, but I am hoping for a little improved base since it will have the power to push my Vmoda Remix.
Brutal-Force said:
Well, that was a mouthful....
The Motorola, Rocketfish and Jabra headsets of top end just don't do as good a job as seating properly, unless you spend 50+ dollars on a custom ear piece.
There really are a lot of trade-offs in audio performance, but a good set high quality ear buds or headphones are hard to beat.
I ordered a E5 Amplifier to go with mine, it should be here in a week or two. While my headset has finally broken in, I could do with about 10-20% more volume, but I am hoping for a little improved base since it will have the power to push my Vmoda Remix.
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Yeah, The E5 is a decent beginner set. You may want to look at building a CMoy at some point, make sure to use slightly larger electrolytic caps and good film caps (resistors don't matter as much). If you make one with good parts and socketed chip, you can roll in to your flavor and it will take portable amps that are $100 or more to beat it. As far as kit amps go, its hard to beat a Mini3 for $100 to put together yourself.
I only say this as a person who actually owns a $450 Portable Amp and $575 Custom triple driver In-ear's. Don't even get me started about the stuff that is at home (I have way too much audio crap!)
BTW - you can make your own custom silicone ear pieces by using some Sugru or if you know an audiologist, you can get some of the Westone two part silicone that they normally use for getting impressions. As with everything, be careful and YMMV.
I wish i had the time to work on getting a USB host for the EVO so that we could use external USB DAC's (like the very small alien and grub).
00-Photon said:
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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Just ordered this too. The cable I ordered from Bestofferbuy . c o m was backordered, so I canceled. I agree with you, this should do the trick, saw it on another forum and looks like it will also allow some steering wheel functionality.
I ordered two through amazon, also found it on geek . com. Searching either with "Sprint Anycom Bluetooth A2DP Reciever" will get you there.
Hi. I want to buy a dock station to put my galaxy note and play some music (with quality) like this http://viewitem.eim.ebay.pt/Logitec...aker-Docking-StationNano44S/310354211613/item for example.
Anyone know one?
pauloallex24 said:
Hi. I want to buy a dock station to put my galaxy note and play some music (with quality) like this http://viewitem.eim.ebay.pt/Logitec...aker-Docking-StationNano44S/310354211613/item for example.
Anyone know one?
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The official desktop dock features a 3.5mm line out that should allow exactly for what you are thinking of.
Unfortunately early reports point put that the output of that line out is so weak that it's utterly unable to feed any amp due to a very low voltage.
Actually this and only this is the reason why i have not purchased the Note and i still stick to my iPhone. I love the ubiquty of the iPhone line out and speaker aftermarket.
elfary said:
The official desktop dock features a 3.5mm line out that should allow exactly for what you are thinking of.
Unfortunately early reports point put that the output of that line out is so weak that it's utterly unable to feed any amp due to a very low voltage.
Actually this and only this is the reason why i have not purchased the Note and i still stick to my iPhone. I love the ubiquty of the iPhone line out and speaker aftermarket.
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Dont is that (but could be). I want one with speakers. Could be that but the ganuine is a little bit expensive.
elfary said:
The official desktop dock features a 3.5mm line out that should allow exactly for what you are thinking of.
Unfortunately early reports point put that the output of that line out is so weak that it's utterly unable to feed any amp due to a very low voltage.
Actually this and only this is the reason why i have not purchased the Note and i still stick to my iPhone. I love the ubiquty of the iPhone line out and speaker aftermarket.
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Eh? I have a logitech dock I bought for my rubbish iPhone. I use a cable jive converter and my note dock and it blasts out louder than my iPhone ever did. Buy a 5mm lead and go down the shops and try out some of the docks or the wireless systems
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Fazziebear said:
Eh? I have a logitech dock I bought for my rubbish iPhone. I use a cable jive converter and my note dock and it blasts out louder than my iPhone ever did. Buy a 5mm lead and go down the shops and try out some of the docks or the wireless systems
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I can do that but I really want to buy and can use the dock without any "cheat".
Fazziebear said:
Eh? I have a logitech dock I bought for my rubbish iPhone. I use a cable jive converter and my note dock and it blasts out louder than my iPhone ever did. Buy a 5mm lead and go down the shops and try out some of the docks or the wireless systems
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I'm afraid that double amping is not the purest way to pump put music off any device. That's why a line out is a must in my book
pauloallex24 said:
Hi. I want to buy a dock station to put my galaxy note and play some music (with quality) like this http://viewitem.eim.ebay.pt/Logitec...aker-Docking-StationNano44S/310354211613/item for example.
Anyone know one?
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Get the filips. For android.
pauloallex24 said:
Hi. I want to buy a dock station to put my galaxy note and play some music (with quality) like this http://viewitem.eim.ebay.pt/Logitec...aker-Docking-StationNano44S/310354211613/item for example.
Anyone know one?
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/03/samsung-htib-audio-dock-soundbar-ces2012/
YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND.
Livewings said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/03/samsung-htib-audio-dock-soundbar-ces2012/
YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND.
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Really cool but no release date :s
http://www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=us...-widget&action=devloc&q=Phillips+android+dock
The day Android gets right the speaker dock aftermarket then i will switch from iPhone.
To me getting it right is having a wired speaker dock aftermarket. I don't trust the Bluetooth A2DP profile the most Android devices use (Low encoding SBC protocol). And amping the headphone out is like pouring Chanel No. 5 over a pig. It smells better but the scent is still lousy.
I think that the very fact that there is not a serious speaker dock aftermarket for Android devices shows clearly that these devices are hardware lacking for that purpose and that's why most companies do not spend money on devising products because the final quality is handicapped from the very beginning cause there is no clean line out built in (As opposed to iPhones whose line out allow for very good sounding speaker docks).
I think the main culprit is the choice of a miniusb out instead of a 30 Pin connector like iPhones or Galaxy Tabs. That might be the limiting factor. Aside from the obvious lack of focus in the audio department that Android shows (i.e. Still no true gapless playback out of the box). And this lack of focus is shared by Windows Phone 7 to Apple delight (since most music lovers stick to them just for this very reason).
elfary said:
The day Android gets right the speaker dock aftermarket then i will switch from iPhone.
To me getting it right is having a wired speaker dock aftermarket. I don't trust the Bluetooth A2DP profile the most Android devices use (Low encoding SBC protocol). And amping the headphone out is like pouring Chanel No. 5 over a pig. It smells better but the scent is still lousy.
I think that the very fact that there is not a serious speaker dock aftermarket for Android devices shows clearly that these devices are hardware lacking for that purpose and that's why most companies do not spend money on devising products because the final quality is handicapped from the very beginning cause there is no clean line out built in (As opposed to iPhones whose line out allow for very good sounding speaker docks).
I think the main culprit is the choice of a miniusb out instead of a 30 Pin connector like iPhones or Galaxy Tabs. That might be the limiting factor. Aside from the obvious lack of focus in the audio department that Android shows (i.e. Still no true gapless playback out of the box). And this lack of focus is shared by Windows Phone 7 to Apple delight (since most music lovers stick to them just for this very reason).
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It would be great if manufacturers exploit the use of MHL to send digital audio to these speaker docks and since MHL requires power to operate, the dock will power it.
Yeah. The DHL has potential but the speaker dock would need a built in DAC which will make the thing more expensive and bulky.
But as it stands now DHL is the only serious wired solution that i see for music lovers like me which find great the ability of docking the iPhone on a Logitec portable speaker dock that you can take almost anywhere (hotels, garden kitchen, even the toilet
This time around i thought that Samsung had got it right with the line out of the desktop dock but unfortunately it seems to work pretty bad (low voltage and interference when the dock is charging the Note).
I've been meaning to get around to building a iOS dock adapter specifically for Samsung's Galaxy series devices. I'll dive into the nitty gritty in a moment.
For now I decided to [recently] settle on a Phillips Fidelio AS351 as my drop in dock, and it actually surpassed my expectations for an A2DP connected dock. It's not the worlds best sound, but much better than I had expected. You could always grab one of them if you wanted.
Now, that adapter.
I made a post on the GSII forums about how to do this but have yet to get around to making one as such. It'd be similar to how this gent made his, without the actual auxiliary cable sticking out. Everything would go through the micro USB connection.
Just randomly wondering, who would actually purchase one if I somehow got to making them?
DarkShot666 said:
I've been meaning to get around to building a iOS dock adapter specifically for Samsung's Galaxy series devices. I'll dive into the nitty gritty in a moment.
For now I decided to [recently] settle on a Phillips Fidelio AS351 as my drop in dock, and it actually surpassed my expectations for an A2DP connected dock. It's not the worlds best sound, but much better than I had expected. You could always grab one of them if you wanted.
Now, that adapter.
I made a post on the GSII forums about how to do this but have yet to get around to making one as such. It'd be similar to how this gent made his, without the actual auxiliary cable sticking out. Everything would go through the micro USB connection.
Just randomly wondering, who would actually purchase one if I somehow got to making them?
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I think that any Note owner who happens to have iPod/iPhone speaker docks would buy a line out dock.
In my particular case is not only that i would buy the line out dock but i would buy the Note as well. I have not purchased it for this whole speaker dock (lack of quality connectivity) issue.
How is the A2DP Bluetooth profile in the Galaxy Note ? Does it use the awful sbc profile or it does use mp3/aac direct stream (as the iPhone and Nokias do) ?
The work of the dutch folk is impressive but unfortunately he is getting amped audio from the headphone out to get it amped again by the speaker dock: double amping is a no go for quality low level sounds.
Thus that the Note would have a built in line out thru the microusb would be a must. It seems that actually the Note can output audio thru the microusb (Judging from the official desktop dock) but users have reported that the signal is very weak and it renders the line out almost unusable. Quite sad taking into account how good is this device in almost every other area.
Android and manufacturers should enforce a hardware line out standard that would allow for an aftermarket of speaker docks as gorgeous as the Apple one.
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I think that any Note owner who happens to have iPod/iPhone speaker docks would buy a line out dock.
In my particular case is not only that i would buy the line out dock but i would buy the Note as well. I have not purchased it for this whole speaker dock (lack of quality connectivity) issue.
How is the A2DP Bluetooth profile in the Galaxy Note ? Does it use the awful sbc profile or it does use mp3/aac direct stream (as the iPhone and Nokias do) ?
The work of the dutch folk is impressive but unfortunately he is getting amped audio from the headphone out to get it amped again by the speaker dock: double amping is a no go for quality low level sounds.
Thus that the Note would have a built in line out thru the microusb would be a must. It seems that actually the Note can output audio thru the microusb (Judging from the official desktop dock) but users have reported that the signal is very weak and it renders the line out almost unusable. Quite sad taking into account how good is this device in almost every other area.
Android and manufacturers should enforce a hardware line out standard that would allow for an aftermarket of speaker docks as gorgeous as the Apple one.
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Fair enough. I've already got an iOS dock and I know others do, so that was a random tidbit about that.
As for the quality, I couldn't tell you to be honest. It sounds far better than any A2DP device I've used so I'm assuming it uses the second. However this could be partly due to the dock itself.
Now for the audio out, in one of my links I refer to that very fact. I've ordered some parts to see about actually making an iOS dock adapter to make use of the line out, so we'll see what happens.
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Fair enough. I've already got an iOS dock and I know others do, so that was a random tidbit about that.
As for the quality, I couldn't tell you to be honest. It sounds far better than any A2DP device I've used so I'm assuming it uses the second. However this could be partly due to the dock itself.
Now for the audio out, in one of my links I refer to that very fact. I've ordered some parts to see about actually making an iOS dock adapter to make use of the line out, so we'll see what happens.
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Are you saying the Samsung Galaxy Note A2DP streaming is a quality one that allows for a decent audio at high volumes without the typical SBC profile cracking noises and breaking high end ?
If that was the case then just a Logitech Bluetooth adapter could do the trick for quite a while and the Note would turn to a go in my book since this is the only issue that it's holding me back.
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Are you saying the Samsung Galaxy Note A2DP streaming is a quality one that allows for a decent audio at high volumes without the typical SBC profile cracking noises and breaking high end ?
If that was the case then just a Logitech Bluetooth adapter could do the trick for quite a while and the Note would turn to a go in my book since this is the only issue that it's holding me back.
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I only get distortion on the dead rare occaision, really only due to the limited bandwidth during some songs that have a lot going on. Otherwise you wouldn't really believe it were over Bluetooth. Don't take my word for it, see if you can get your hands on one. Hell, a GSII should work as they've got the same internals.
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I only get distortion on the dead rare occaision, really only due to the limited bandwidth during some songs that have a lot going on. Otherwise you wouldn't really believe it were over Bluetooth. Don't take my word for it, see if you can get your hands on one. Hell, a GSII should work as they've got the same internals.
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The only Bluetooth fed sound system that i've heard yet that i'd might be close to take for a wired system is my JVC AVX-44 when it pumps out when fed via Bluetooth by my iPhone. Anyway i've listened to very few Bluetooth devices.
But if the Note A2DP is close to that i might jump in. Thanks a lot for your feedback.
Going a bit offtopic i'd say that there are people who don't like music. There are people who just like music.There are people who like music a lot.And then there are people who love music and the sound and timbre of the instruments even appreciating the space between them.
Is in this realm where i find hard to let go of the iPhone. That's how good it is sound wise. You need a dedicated player amped with a very good portable amp to catch up with the iPhone headphone outwhich i deem as a unique piece of engineering.
Anybody who has paired an iPhone with a multidriver iem (Westone UM3x, Shure SE535...) may understand this last hurdle standing between me and the gorgeous Note.
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The only Bluetooth fed sound system that i've heard yet that i'd might be close to take for a wired system is my JVC AVX-44 when it pumps out when fed via Bluetooth by my iPhone. Anyway i've listened to very few Bluetooth devices.
But if the Note A2DP is close to that i might jump in. Thanks a lot for your feedback.
Going a bit offtopic i'd say that there are people who don't like music. There are people who just like music.There are people who like music a lot.And then there are people who love music and the sound and timbre of the instruments even appreciating the space between them.
Is in this realm where i find hard to let go of the iPhone. That's how good it is sound wise. You need a dedicated player amped with a very good portable amp to catch up with the iPhone headphone outwhich i deem as a unique piece of engineering.
Anybody who has paired an iPhone with a multidriver iem (Westone UM3x, Shure SE535...) may understand this last hurdle standing between me and the gorgeous Note.
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Understandable. I personally would have never used Bluetooth for music playback but the convenience when paired with the dock is great. I was skeptical and I'm still debating on keeping it. I probably will because it makes a great portable dock for my current phone.
As for the audio part, if you use an iPhone as your primary portable media player you aught to be reasonably content with the Note in terms of SQ. I've used it and a Clip+ with a pair of SE215s and HD 25-1 IIs and I'd say they're just about on par.
I wish I had the money to sink into a pair of UM3s. I did luck out with a pair of K702s for home listening on the way however. Pretty stoked about that.
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Hey fellows,
using a Galaxy s7 edge since 1.5 years with a 3.5mm Headphonejack, I have to rethink, how to hear music on my Pixel 2 XL.
Tbh i dont like to use 3.5mm headphons with the adapter because of comfort and sound quality.
Thats why I would like to have a nice wired (Type C) or / and good bluetooth in-ear headphones.
Im looking for cheap but good sounding earphones. Any hints?
Actually i guess im going to get Meizu EP51 as bluetooth earphones for running and gym. And now im searching for great wired type c phones.
Let me know, which one you'll get.
Regards!
for Bluetooth go with a good aptx or aptx-hd headphones/earphones
for usb c they are new and there is no good ones so far
for the premium earphones, selection check these
http://a.co/eqpvVeD
http://a.co/0CKRTBw
http://a.co/d5YATXo
http://a.co/aj86CMn
http://a.co/c9FFgA5
http://a.co/2yw7bb5
for premium headphones
http://a.co/gS9DXdi
http://a.co/dUIGl6D
http://a.co/8MmjVbI
http://a.co/a4PLu1i
for cheaper options earphones
http://a.co/cBZvL5B
http://a.co/arc7r0H
http://a.co/5cRiWlS
http://a.co/beOvBst
http://a.co/4yvDfZ1
http://a.co/4ECDD15
for cheaper options headphones
http://a.co/a9EryKC
http://a.co/4u9KjJp
http://a.co/7RaEOm7
this is just an example of what can you find
check the reviews before buying
I'm in the same market, but am waiting to see what happens in the Google Assistant space. Googles website lists a few of the newer premium models that will support Google Assistant, but only some are in stock.
Libratone Q Adapt USB-C
Libratone Q Adapt BT (over ear)
Other models from AiAiAi and Master and Dymanic are coming soon, but most of them are over ear. There's a full list here.
I have the Rowkin's for my in ear bluetooth currently. Can't get much smaller than that.
Lastly, since you asked about in ear USB-C, you can try these out from Zorloo. I had a pair of their Micro-USB Ze:ro's and loved them.
Here is another list
https://9to5google.com/2017/10/05/h...phones-currently-compatible-with-the-pixel-2/
Is there any options for bluetooth 5.0 headphones? Is there any benefit to having BT5.0? The range on my current BT headphones is very weak especially when in my workout carrying case.
I have the Plantronics Backbeat Fit, and I love them. They sound really good (not premium, high-end I don't think), they don't move around when I'm working out, and they are super comfortable. They have a new gen out too. I think I paid $65-70 for them open box?
I checked out reviews for all of the major headphone brands, also tried out a couple cheaper ones. Most did not fair well in reviews except this set, and the others I tried were not good.
Anyway, check out the link below.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KJLMBQQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have these.
https://www.bose.com/en_us/products...ndsport-free-wireless.html#ProductTabs_tab999
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Is there any options for bluetooth 5.0 headphones? Is there any benefit to having BT5.0? The range on my current BT headphones is very weak especially when in my workout carrying case.
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Bluetooth 5 has a range 120 to 140 feet, as apposed to 33 feet with most 4.1 bluetooth devices. But you will need a bluetooth device that matches the bluetooth accessory to get the distance. There are also other enhancements such as multiple devices can be used at the same time. I read an articel on this a few weeks ago. I hope my memory has given you some big enhancements with bluetooth 5.
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Bluetooth 5 has a range 120 to 140 feet, as apposed to 33 feet with most 4.1 bluetooth devices. But you will need a bluetooth device that matches the bluetooth accessory to get the distance. There are also other enhancements such as multiple devices can be used at the same time. I read an articel on this a few weeks ago. I hope my memory has given you some big enhancements with bluetooth 5.
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one problem though
the range and data rate was enhanced but ONLY for bluetooth low energy devices
normal high power devices got nothing
https://www.androidauthority.com/bluetooth-5-gary-explains-703734/
Bose sound sport wireless for the win. They are awesome sound quality. 150 bucks. In my opinion the new truly wireless 250 dollar ones aren't worth it.
I bought these when I was waiting on my Essential to come, and they actually worked really well. Wasn't sure about the whole noise cancelling thing, but since they don't need to be charged separately (the phone powers the noise cancelling), I figured I would give them a shot. Really liked them, but ended up returning the Essential in favor of the 2 XL, so now I'm just hoping they're compatible, but I'm hoping that won't be an issue...they're not the most comfortable, since they have the large rubber things so they stay in place for active folks (I'm not one of them), but I got used to them. And the noise cancelling and ambient noise feature are actually pretty useful. But they've been sitting dormant since I returned the Essential and came back to good old Shamu (If only I could find a reverse 3.5mm -> USB-C adapter hahah). The fact that I got them for like $80 (down from $200 which is just ridiculous) made it a pretty good deal in my mind. The 17th can't come soon enough!
PS I wanted earbuds and didn't want wireless, or anything that needed to be charged, but the options seem to be extremely limited at this point
http://www.htc.com/us/accessories/jbl-reflect-aware-c-earphones/
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I have the Plantronics Backbeat Fit, and I love them. They sound really good (not premium, high-end I don't think), they don't move around when I'm working out, and they are super comfortable. They have a new gen out too. I think I paid $65-70 for them open box?
I checked out reviews for all of the major headphone brands, also tried out a couple cheaper ones. Most did not fair well in reviews except this set, and the others I tried were not good.
Anyway, check out the link below.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KJLMBQQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Absolutely agree. I need good gym headphones that didnt cost $200, and didnt move or fall out or break from sweat. These things are fantastic and i got'm for like $60 from costco
I got these about a year ago but my Nexus 6p doesn't support apt-x (i know it can with some tweaking in Oreo) can't wait to try them out with my new Pixel next week
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SNI44CQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_t543zbXEXW8GA
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I have the https://www.rowkin.com/rowkin-bit-charge - Rowkin's for my in ear bluetooth currently. Can't get much smaller than that.
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Too bad they have such terrible reviews... I was extremely interested in the Surge pair until i read the review on the charge....
vansmack said:
Lastly, since you asked about in ear USB-C, you can try https://www.zorloo.com/product-page/aero-digital-earphone-usb-c these out from Zorloo. I had a pair of their Micro-USB Ze:ro's and loved them.
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How loud did they get? At 100% I would like the music to be uncomfortably loud.
I'm also extremely interested in the https://en-us.sennheiser.com/headphones-bluetooth-hd1-free - Sennheiser HD1 Free. The HD1 non free has great reviews.
I ordered these https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y686X78/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_Qa53zbXQQ9TVS - TaoTronics Bluetooth Headphones Model Ft-bh16 for a temporary pair and backup.
fergdizzle9090 said:
Absolutely agree. I need good gym headphones that didnt cost $200, and didnt move or fall out or break from sweat. These things are fantastic and i got'm for like $60 from costco
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Yep, I love mine. They sound REALLY good for just being little earbuds. I've had very nice over-ear headphones, currently have a pair of AiAiAi's, and the fit beats are pretty good! Jump rope is the only thing I've found that makes them budge. Floor workouts, everything else they don't move.
fergdizzle9090 said:
Absolutely agree. I need good gym headphones that didnt cost $200, and didnt move or fall out or break from sweat. These things are fantastic and i got'm for like $60 from costco
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Another agreed, they are excellent for my HIIT cardio workouts and reasonable price!
I love my PowerBeats 2. I previously tested a bunch of different Bluetooth headphones for the gym and these are the only ones that stay in my ears consistently and have excellent sound. Battery life is around 8 hours and the Bluetooth connection distance is quite good. I can put my phone on a ledge and work my way through a ~100ft area for the weights and never lose signal.
If I decide to go with the Pixel 2 XL (still debating) I'll be getting the PowerBeats 3 for the gym and leave my PowerBeats 2 at my office desk. One area of contention with the loss of the headphone jack is that I work from home full time and have various clients calling me multiple times a day. So I usually have a set of wired headphones sitting on my desk that I can quickly plug in before answering the phone. With the 2 XL I won't have that option so I'll resort to the PowerBeats 2 to always be ready to quickly turn on and pair.
For those wondering, the PowerBeats 3 are essentially the same as the previous generation but with an even greater Bluetooth signal range and longer battery life.
I have been using the Samsung Gear Circle for years. They sounds great, stay in my ear while at the gym and the battery seems to last forever.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ODDNPNO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Xsb5zbT05ATW3
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I have the Plantronics Backbeat Fit, and I love them. They sound really good (not premium, high-end I don't think), they don't move around when I'm working out, and they are super comfortable. They have a new gen out too. I think I paid $65-70 for them open box?
I checked out reviews for all of the major headphone brands, also tried out a couple cheaper ones. Most did not fair well in reviews except this set, and the others I tried were not good.
Anyway, check out the link below.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KJLMBQQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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These headphones have lasted through 2 washes for me. They sound great if you squeeze them into your ear canal, but I can't think of a way to keepnthem in like that. Otherwise they are great because they hang on and don't fall out.
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Sony 1000xm2 just got delivered today!
After receiving my Mi Mix 2, I ordered an adapter to listen to music while charging.
https://m.banggood.com/Bakeey-2-in-...-Pro-Max-Xiaomi-6-p-1186682.html?rmmds=search
Seemed a perfect solution, but, when connection the adapter, my phone thinks there's an headphone connected, even when there is none present. That means that the alarm sound uses the music volume setting. Which is quite inconvenient.
When using the original adapter from Xoaomi, all is well. But it's either music or charge.
Does any of you have the same experience with cheap adapters?
There is no Android standard for that specific type of accessory so unless it's actually made by your device manufacturer you are pretty much guaranteed to have one problem or another with those. It's a big problem for a lot of people. Many Android phone manufacturers decided to ape Apple's decision to drop the headphone jack but Apple actually makes the kind of adapter you are describing for their phones. Most Android phone makers do not and third party accessories rarely work well.
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There is no Android standard for that specific type of accessory so unless it's actually made by your device manufacturer you are pretty much guaranteed to have one problem or another with those. It's a big problem for a lot of people. Many Android phone manufacturers decided to ape Apple's decision to drop the headphone jack but Apple actually makes the kind of adapter you are describing for their phones. Most Android phone makers do not and third party accessories rarely work well.
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Guess I'll have to buy a couple of Xoaomi adaptors. I can still use the cheap ones in my car. Don't need alarms there lol
wim69 said:
Guess I'll have to buy a couple of Xoaomi adaptors. I can still use the cheap ones in my car. Don't need alarms there lol
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Sounds like a good idea. They really should throw in the adapter if the phone has no headphone jack.
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Sounds like a good idea. They really should throw in the adapter if the phone has no headphone jack.
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There actually is one adapter included, but that's not enough for my needs.