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Evo to Ipod Dock Adapter DIY

I would like to be able to connect my Evo to my car so that I can listen to Pandora using the car stereo. Unfortunately my car only has an Ipod dock connector.
Would it be possible to create an adapter that will allow you to connect an HTC Evo to an Ipod dock and output audio?
I have seen something similar being done with a T-Mobile G1.
webnetta.com/2008/12/27/hack-connects-t-mobile-g1-to-ipod-dock/
Is it just as simple as getting a Ipod dock extender cable like this one:
monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10831&cs_id=1083101&p_id=6828
and cutting off the male and of this cable and soldering it to a male end of microusb cable?
Any help would be appreciated.

this is a huge area where android needs improvement.

There's no audio through the Evo USB port. I was searching for the same thing last night. I have a logitech ipod speaker: (can't post links)
I also have this ipod bluetooth adapter:
What I'm thinking about doing is to hardwire the bluetooth adapter to the inside of the speaker. Then get the 5v from the dock and make a cable or adapter to go to the Evo's mini usb port. It's not the best solution, but I do have all of the parts already. If I didn't, headphones would suffice.

find the schematic for the ipod dock and solder a headphone jack to the audio inputs on the connector and you're done. I have done the same thing and it worked just fine for my friend that I did it for.
the thing that sucks about that is you will need an extra cable to charge the phone.

speedracerbubba said:
find the schematic for the ipod dock and solder a headphone jack to the audio inputs on the connector and you're done. I have done the same thing and it worked just fine for my friend that I did it for.
the thing that sucks about that is you will need an extra cable to charge the phone.
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Hence my bluetooth idea.

I did some digging around a couple weeks ago and came across this
talkandroid.com/guides/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/
It sucks you need the 3.5 adapter, but better than letting letting a perfectly good dock sit and collect dust.
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I just ordered a couple of these last week. My car has an ipod adapter, and this should let me connect to that and connect the 3mm to my EVO.
It's coming from Hong Kong so may be a bit longer before it's delivered. I'll report back when I get it.
I can't post links yet - go to bestofferbuy.com and search
"3.5mm Male to iPod/iPhone 2G/3G/3GS Female Adapter Cable - Black (95CM-Length)"
It's $2.60 shipped so I bought two. Can't go wrong for 5bucks

oooo ^ good find. picked up two myself.

I've been using one of these in my car for about 6 months now, originally it was to have audio from netbook. It has now been doing me good on the evo.
*correct the link and bingo... Cant post the real link because of my noobness
w w w.cablejive.com/products/Dock-Input-Cable.html

I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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Step 1: Buy some Sugru or ShapeLock
Step 2: Buy Cheapie $1 headphones
Step 3: Buy iPod female Dock connector and MicroUSB Male end
Step 4: Use Pinout.ru to connect the points appropriately (iPod dock connector pins are pretty small and you must work quickly or your will melt the plastic, do not forget the internal resistors if needed for your application)
Step 5: Wrap it up in Sugru or Shapelock (use hairdryer to smooth it out with your hands)
Step 6: Paint and Enjoy!
Creating custom cables and docks and such is really not that difficult, just need some decent soldering skill and patience.
You could also just buy this:
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter

FIPO Bluetooth
I use this in my BMW for streaming over the bluetooth to the stereo. Works great and convient to just start the car and the Evo start playing music/podcast/etc.
FIPO Amazon Sprint search will turn up the 20 dollar adapter.

Childofthehorn said:
Creating custom cables and docks and such is really not that difficult, just need some decent soldering skill and patience.
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
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Some of us do have the necessary skills, but do not want a ugly wire staring us in the face. Also the components themselves tend to get expensive when ripping apart 3 different cords for parts... not to mention when someone tries this and melts something, then you have to go through the hassle of ordering more components. That is the main reason we come here, because someone may already be on the job.
Now..... if your offering to do it, and you have a pricetag and are willing to offer support in case it doesn't work or kills our phones or car stereos, then I am all ears. But definitely thanks for the link.
As far as BT goes, the one poster is kind of right, I think the phone industry is betting on bluetooth, although its been 15 years, and BT performance is still at best Mediocre.

00-Photon said:
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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now that is sweet! best solution yet!

What if we took audio out from the HDMI port?

Brutal-Force said:
Also the components themselves tend to get expensive when ripping apart 3 different cords for parts... not to mention when someone tries this and melts something, then you have to go through the hassle of ordering more components.
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True, But there are those of us with drive to do something unique and have something that fits our needs exactly. DealExtreme.com is a great place to buy the cables to be ripped up and dollar stores can be a real treasure trove. Craft/ART stores also have a lot of things which can be easily repurposed.
Brutal-Force said:
Now..... if your offering to do it, and you have a pricetag and are willing to offer support in case it doesn't work or kills our phones or car stereos, then I am all ears.
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I used to be a person who did his kind of work in college, but it is time consuming and repetitive. Plus, this is likely a market of people who are not willing to spend great amounts of money on handmade products. Even if someone charged $30 each it would not be worth the average techies time, but a worthwhile effort for a high school or college student with the drive to learn and perfect.
Brutal-Force said:
As far as BT goes, the one poster is kind of right, I think the phone industry is betting on bluetooth, although its been 15 years, and BT performance is still at best Mediocre.
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You are correct in MOST scenarios!
It is more of an issue not with the BT technology itself rather the way it is popularly implemented. BT does have the ability to send out very high quality audio streams and many of which are nearly lossless in quality. The issues are with the device that streams and the device that receives. The chosen connection type between the two devices must be mutual. Problem is that most BT devices streaming A2DP use only SBC coding of varied bit rate and quality.
Now if you have a really well done setup that is very thought out you can have your EVO sending out a pure 320kbps MP3 or AAC or other compatible stream direct with no conversion being done in real time to a BT receiver which is MP3, etc. stream compatible and has an excellent, typically non-chip integrated, DAC with a nice buffered output. Problem is that many BT receiver chips are made to be as cheap as possible, have crappy dacs, and push out very little power (or simply have no buffer at all) to even crappier speakers. When you combine that with real time conversion of MP3 and other formats to SBC at an even lower bit rate, you have an even worse experience.
IMO, the headphone output on the EVO does not sound that good and if you have a car that does accept MP3 320k BT streams and you use an alternative media player like meridian that allows that kind of behavior, then it should be fine for even above average car audio.
Have a Great Listening Experience!

JoeBass said:
I just ordered a couple of these last week. My car has an ipod adapter, and this should let me connect to that and connect the 3mm to my EVO.
It's coming from Hong Kong so may be a bit longer before it's delivered. I'll report back when I get it.
I can't post links yet - go to bestofferbuy.com and search
"3.5mm Male to iPod/iPhone 2G/3G/3GS Female Adapter Cable - Black (95CM-Length)"
It's $2.60 shipped so I bought two. Can't go wrong for 5bucks
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Great find! Just ordered one for myself

Childofthehorn said:
True, But there are those of us with drive to do something unique and have something that fits our needs exactly. DealExtreme.com is a great place to buy the cables to be ripped up and dollar stores can be a real treasure trove. Craft/ART stores also have a lot of things which can be easily repurposed.
I used to be a person who did his kind of work in college, but it is time consuming and repetitive. Plus, this is likely a market of people who are not willing to spend great amounts of money on handmade products. Even if someone charged $30 each it would not be worth the average techies time, but a worthwhile effort for a high school or college student with the drive to learn and perfect.
You are correct in MOST scenarios!
It is more of an issue not with the BT technology itself rather the way it is popularly implemented. BT does have the ability to send out very high quality audio streams and many of which are nearly lossless in quality. The issues are with the device that streams and the device that receives. The chosen connection type between the two devices must be mutual. Problem is that most BT devices streaming A2DP use only SBC coding of varied bit rate and quality.
Now if you have a really well done setup that is very thought out you can have your EVO sending out a pure 320kbps MP3 or AAC or other compatible stream direct with no conversion being done in real time to a BT receiver which is MP3, etc. stream compatible and has an excellent, typically non-chip integrated, DAC with a nice buffered output. Problem is that many BT receiver chips are made to be as cheap as possible, have crappy dacs, and push out very little power (or simply have no buffer at all) to even crappier speakers. When you combine that with real time conversion of MP3 and other formats to SBC at an even lower bit rate, you have an even worse experience.
IMO, the headphone output on the EVO does not sound that good and if you have a car that does accept MP3 320k BT streams and you use an alternative media player like meridian that allows that kind of behavior, then it should be fine for even above average car audio.
Have a Great Listening Experience!
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Well, that was a mouthfull. Thanks though, it helps a little. I did spend quite a while researching different Bluetooth headsets. But alas, as you have pointed out, although most of what is considered to be high end headsets, still only use bluetooth 2.0. The EVO also doesn't do a very good job at streaming bluetooth. Pandora and Music Player skip horribly. I was not aware that Meridian did a better job. I guess, that might have been another option.
As far as the bluetooth headsets go though, if your looking for A2DP, the selection is still limited, unless you want a dongle type headset, which IMO, you might as well use a wire. The Motorola, Rocketfish and Jabra headsets of top end just don't do as good a job as seating properly, unless you spend 50+ dollars on a custom ear piece.
There really are a lot of trade-offs in audio performance, but a good set high quality ear buds or headphones are hard to beat. Then comes the Car audio as well as home audio into play. I use mine as a MP3 player both on the go and in the car. My car has a Audio In jack, so I am happy with that.
I ordered a E5 Amplifier to go with mine, it should be here in a week or two. While my headset has finally broken in, I could do with about 10-20% more volume, but I am hoping for a little improved base since it will have the power to push my Vmoda Remix.

Brutal-Force said:
Well, that was a mouthful....
The Motorola, Rocketfish and Jabra headsets of top end just don't do as good a job as seating properly, unless you spend 50+ dollars on a custom ear piece.
There really are a lot of trade-offs in audio performance, but a good set high quality ear buds or headphones are hard to beat.
I ordered a E5 Amplifier to go with mine, it should be here in a week or two. While my headset has finally broken in, I could do with about 10-20% more volume, but I am hoping for a little improved base since it will have the power to push my Vmoda Remix.
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Yeah, The E5 is a decent beginner set. You may want to look at building a CMoy at some point, make sure to use slightly larger electrolytic caps and good film caps (resistors don't matter as much). If you make one with good parts and socketed chip, you can roll in to your flavor and it will take portable amps that are $100 or more to beat it. As far as kit amps go, its hard to beat a Mini3 for $100 to put together yourself.
I only say this as a person who actually owns a $450 Portable Amp and $575 Custom triple driver In-ear's. Don't even get me started about the stuff that is at home (I have way too much audio crap!)
BTW - you can make your own custom silicone ear pieces by using some Sugru or if you know an audiologist, you can get some of the Westone two part silicone that they normally use for getting impressions. As with everything, be careful and YMMV.
I wish i had the time to work on getting a USB host for the EVO so that we could use external USB DAC's (like the very small alien and grub).

00-Photon said:
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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Just ordered this too. The cable I ordered from Bestofferbuy . c o m was backordered, so I canceled. I agree with you, this should do the trick, saw it on another forum and looks like it will also allow some steering wheel functionality.
I ordered two through amazon, also found it on geek . com. Searching either with "Sprint Anycom Bluetooth A2DP Reciever" will get you there.

Headphones with built in controls

Im used to using my iphone headphones with the built-in mix and music controls (lost them). Was wondering if any earphones with these features will work with the DX to answer/hang up calls and control the music player.
Im on my way to best buy for an unrelated purchase but would like to know what options I have before I get misled by a sales agent there.
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I have the Motorokr S9. They are bluetooth. I really like them. I have been looking to upgrade and there are a lot more out since I first purchased. I would definitely do some research online before buying from Best Buy.
Update: I went out and upgraded from the S9 to the S9-HD. They are huge improvement from the old model. The sound is so much better. Battery life is still about the same.

jgraham4598 said:
I have the Motorokr S9. They are bluetooth. I really like them. I have been looking to upgrade and there are a lot more out since I first purchased. I would definitely do some research online before buying from Best Buy.
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+1 for the S9

V-MODA Vibe Duo Earbud Headset (Gunmetal Rouge)
Try doing an amazon search for those.
I ordered them a few weeks before I got my DX cause I knew I would need some headphones. And was I pleasently surprised! These 26$ earbuds EASILY surpass the quality of my friends' $100 Bose and $60 Skull candy or w/e earbuds. Plus they are very well built, with a braided cord and a cell phone call start/end button. Oh and the color matches the droid x.
Try em out! I guarantee you won't be disappointed

GoldenCyn said:
Im used to using my iphone headphones with the built-in mix and music controls (lost them). Was wondering if any earphones with these features will work with the DX to answer/hang up calls and control the music player.
Im on my way to best buy for an unrelated purchase but would like to know what options I have before I get misled by a sales agent there.
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The Beats line by the Doctor has Control Talk, which may or may not work completely with Android (leaning towards may not). I believe only the pause
and volume control work, not the next/prev track. Not cheap though. I'm looking at getting the Gaga's for my sister. They better tuck her into bed at
night too for $130!

I want the beats sooooo bad. Can't justify that kinda $ though.
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bad4u6669 said:
+1 for the S9
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+2, I've had mine since I had my old 6700, they work great.

I'd also +1 the S9HD's if those blasted ear bud pieces weren't so prone to falling out and getting lost while being transported in a pocket or getting pulled out of a pocket (I can't use them any more b/c this happened to all 3 sizes of ear buds, and I have yet to find a way to purchase replacements w/o buying the entire headset again).
I have a set of rocketfish over-the-ear BT stereo headphones w/ music and call controls. They work quite well and though they take some adjustment on my head due to me wearing glasses, they are also fairly comfortable..... and they're not at all as expensive as the name-brand motorokr's (motorola if you couldn't tell).

I got the V-Mode Vibe Duos too! lol
I agree, very good pair of earphones. Only catch is that the default music player wont pic up the control button. No big deal tho cause you got a nice widget on the lockscreen that allows u to pause, forward or rewind.
I got the Dr Monster Beats too but i THINK they are fake. Friend gave em to me, anyways, the v-modas sound wayyy better and have a very nice deep rich bass!
If you go to amazon you will read a lot of negative feedback, to be honest my v-modas still working just fine!

+1 Motorola S9-HD
I use mine every day.

These are nearly the only headphones/ear buds in existence that will have all the controls work properly on your phone with.
http://www.zagg.com/audio/smart-buds.php
Virtually all headphones/ear buds with audio controls are designed for Apple products. Apple is a terrible company, they make everything proprietary; they switched the mic and ground connectors so they could force manufacturers to make headphones that would only work properly on their bass-ackwards newer Apple products.
Products like these:
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=...mobile_solution/index.jsp&model=mie2i_headset
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_sport-line_504603
http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/50-50-black-red.html
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666138350
http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-s5i-rugged-overview/
Will only work on newer-generation iPods/iPhones/etc. because Apple switched the microphone and ground connectors, so when you plug any of the above-linked products into a regular, worldwide standard, normal headphone jack like we have on our Droid X and that a gazillion other devices have, the buttons work sporadically or not at all.
God, I hate Apple. Support Zagg for being nearly the only company in existence to recognize what Apple has done, and accordingly provided a product for everyone else with. Apple would do the same thing with Bluetooth if they could, but they don't own the Bluetooth standard, thankfully; which is why all your audio controls work on any Bluetooth-enabled device out there. (as long as it's not a really old one)

Roland Deschain said:
These are nearly the only headphones/ear buds in existence that will have all the controls work properly on your phone with.
http://www.zagg.com/audio/smart-buds.php
Virtually all headphones/ear buds with audio controls are designed for Apple products. Apple is a terrible company, they make everything proprietary; they switched the mic and ground connectors so they could force manufacturers to make headphones that would only work properly on their bass-ackwards newer Apple products.
Products like these:
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=...mobile_solution/index.jsp&model=mie2i_headset
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/private_headphones_sport-line_504603
http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/50-50-black-red.html
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666138350
http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/image-s5i-rugged-overview/
Will only work on newer-generation iPods/iPhones/etc. because Apple switched the microphone and ground connectors, so when you plug any of the above-linked products into a regular, worldwide standard, normal headphone jack like we have on our Droid X and that a gazillion other devices have, the buttons work sporadically or not at all.
God, I hate Apple. Support Zagg for being nearly the only company in existence to recognize what Apple has done, and accordingly provided a product for everyone else with. Apple would do the same thing with Bluetooth if they could, but they don't own the Bluetooth standard, thankfully; which is why all your audio controls work on any Bluetooth-enabled device out there. (as long as it's not a really old one)
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Another reason to hate Apple... thanks alot man!

i have the in-ear beats. They are AMAZING. the controls don't work though.

+1 for S9 as well.

The Nokia TRRS standard is what everything else uses, Tip = Left channel, first Ring = Right channel, second Ring = Mic/Control feed, Sleeve = Ground.
The Apple TRRS standard uses, Tip = Left channel, first Ring = Right channel, second Ring = Ground, Sleeve = Mic/Control feed.
Funny thing is Nokia started to use that TRRS layout well over ten years ago in Asia. Almost immediately China and Japan adopted it as an industrial standard and every phone manufacturer since has used it too.
Then Apple comes along years later, with all its infinite wisdom on how to do things that will alienate themselves from the rest of the market and switches the second ring and sleeve. So now the mic and controls for Apple headsets wont work with ANY other phone, and you can’t use any other headset with the iPhone unless it is Apple configured.
Things get even more complicated when apple decides to alter the amp setting for the output of their audio. This is even more interesting and dumbfounding: Apples headsets bass range can be driven at a much lower signal power, that means that you can still use the Apple TRS headphones for audio only (no mic, no controls) in any other device BUT you can’t properly use TRS headphones manufactured for the rest of the industries phones because they require a higher signal power to drive the low end. So if you try to use a standard set of headphones with an Apple device the bass will surely suffer. Those issues happen all the time with iPods because of the same configuration of the TRS standard.
With TRRS you get other issues caused by the signal grounding through the control buss, every now and then output from a song will bias a diode or transistor just right to skip the track or stop the song or do a whole slew of different and wacky things.
So if you ever see someone having this issue with a smart phone tell them to get non-Apple headsets.
If you see someone with an iPhone that’s having this issue, tell them to get an Android device. No, seriously though, tell them to get an Apple headset. Same thing goes if they are experiencing poor bass.
So it isn’t that there is only one brand making the correct headsets, its more like a few brands making headsets that only work with Apple. An easy way to identify the difference is Apples control standard is referred to as TapLine. Just buy headsets that aren’t TapLine or TapLineII. A vast majority of ALL the headsets on the market use the Nokia TRRS standard which is what everything other than Apple is configured for, you shouldn’t have any issues finding a headset that will work for audio and voice.
If you want to use Bluetooth, then you have a world of options for headsets, pretty much everything works. I like the MOTOROKR S305, inexpensive, uses micro USB to charge, and has FULL control, even with voice commands.
If you want to save your battery and use corded headsets with FULL control, then be prepared for disappointment. Right now the Droid X does not support phone controls through the headset command controls. You should still be able to control your music player (maybe, that is still a hit or miss), but if you want to answer and end a phone call then you only have the option of setting the phone to handsfree. With the phone set to handsfree answer and the headphones are plugged in, the phone will answer and you just have to allow the caller on the other end to terminate the call.

Roland Deschain said:
These are nearly the only headphones/ear buds in existence that will have all the controls work properly on your phone with.
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I can't repost the link because the forum thinks I might be a spammer.
It was the link for the Zagg headset.
OK, I am confused with your post. You acknowledge that Apple does things differently and that Apple headsets won’t work on other phones, but then you list a link that is for an Apple configured headset. The description on the page states: “ZAGGsmartbuds music control for iPhone” and then contradicts that with: “Compatible with almost all smartphones with 3.5mm jacks” and then it states: “Some non-US smartphones, such as the Samsung i9000, have a unique jack configuration that requires an adapter for use with the ZAGGsmartbuds.” which is yet another contradiction because that phone is the Galaxy S Android phone that uses the Nokia standard. So the description on that page is pretty much saying that if you want these to work with anything other than an Apple device then you need to use a converter.

I hate how most earphones don't work especially my Beats
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the i beats that come with htc works on htc phones and galaxy s 2 phone
the htc i beats are called urbeats and 3 carriers sell them tmobile sprint and att they also have a white solo that works on android
Urbeats
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...id=wUnNWoHhHH2
solo
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-pho...id=wUnNWoHhHH2
both should work with android not iPhone
LiveSound
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ab=featuresTab

[Q] A Music Dock for Evo?

Is there a music dock for the Evo anywhere?
I'm NOT talkin about a car dock, or a charging/syncing dock or just external speakers that plug into the headphone port...
I mean a dock like the millions of them that are available for the iPhone that is an actual stereo where the phone docks into it and charges/plays music at the same time..
I have looked everywhere and cant find one.. seems like the only thing that the iPhone has that my Evo doesnt that I actually want
Any ideas?
Oh, and something that you "rigged" up that does the same thing might be interesting to see also..

You're not going to find anything made specifically for the EVO. The best bet is to find a universal one that has USB charging capabilities. I can't recall one off the top of my head but I'm sure they are out there.

Yeah, I really wasnt expecting to find an "EVO specific" one but I cant even find a universal one that's not a complete piece of crap that is so inconvenient to use that it's not worth it...
Am I the only one that wants one of these or what? There has to be a bir market for a really good universal one that non-iPhone users can buy... Maybe I'm missing something

YES, YES, a million times YES on someone making this!
I would buy it in a heartbeat!!!

blakjak220 said:
Is there a music dock for the Evo anywhere?
I'm NOT talkin about a car dock, or a charging/syncing dock or just external speakers that plug into the headphone port...
I mean a dock like the millions of them that are available for the iPhone that is an actual stereo where the phone docks into it and charges/plays music at the same time..
I have looked everywhere and cant find one.. seems like the only thing that the iPhone has that my Evo doesnt that I actually want
Any ideas?
Oh, and something that you "rigged" up that does the same thing might be interesting to see also..
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I want one of these. I am actually in the process of making one out of wood. I am thinking of shaping it like a regular dock, and using a good acoustical wood. Got the idea from here.
I am thinking this would work great. Maybe take a charger and run it up so that you can plug it in, and use the acoustics of the wood to amplify the sound. Just a thought.

So there are no MicroUSB docks anywhere??
I figured someone would have made one
I've been thinking about one, and it would be cool
I guess even a dock with a USB port so one could connect the cable to it would be fine
sigh

thacounty said:
I want one of these. I am actually in the process of making one out of wood. I am thinking of shaping it like a regular dock, and using a good acoustical wood. Got the idea from here.
I am thinking this would work great. Maybe take a charger and run it up so that you can plug it in, and use the acoustics of the wood to amplify the sound. Just a thought.
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That's not a bad idea,,, I can build pretty much anything so I'll be looking into this, thanks
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I would think your best option would be to just get a bluetooth speaker set or one designed for the ipod and use a ipod>bluetooth adapter like this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190398627547&rvr_id=213403115911&mfe=sidebar

jobryan26 said:
I would think your best option would be to just get a bluetooth speaker set or one designed for the ipod and use a ipod>bluetooth adapter like this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190398627547&rvr_id=213403115911&mfe=sidebar
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I had seen one of these back a while ago but I guess I just forgot about it... That does seem like the best option. I've never used bluetooth to stream music but I assume it works well and will play with music on my SDcard as well as Slacker and the like?

blakjak220 said:
I had seen one of these back a while ago but I guess I just forgot about it... That does seem like the best option. I've never used bluetooth to stream music but I assume it works well and will play with music on my SDcard as well as Slacker and the like?
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Absolutely. I have a set of bluetooth headphones that are really sweet and i use them with pandora, music app, audiogalaxy etc...

My wife was asking this just the other day. She hates plugging in to the ear phone jack. I might try that bluetooth receiver idea.
Sent from my Evo CM7 RC1

I used the FIPO for quite a while (till I lost it) I think there was a guy on there that was selling them for cheap (around $10 IIRC), but it worked flawlessly every time and the sound quality was not bad at all....

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Absolutely. I have a set of bluetooth headphones that are really sweet and i use them with pandora, music app, audiogalaxy etc...
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What kind of bluetooth headphones you have?.. I take it you're pretty happy with them..

Nice!
jobryan26 said:
I would think your best option would be to just get a bluetooth speaker set or one designed for the ipod and use a ipod>bluetooth adapter like this one.
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Great idea, thanks man!

The problem is the HDMI out: there is no "dock" connector, just USB (which IS host capable, somewhere on that chip) and the HDMI connector.
HDMI encodes the audio into blank space of the video stream, so you need signal processing to seperate the two: that's too close to the DO NOT CROSS line for manufacturers. There aren't many products that do that (right now), and I don't know if there will be. However I found this one in my travels:
http://hinen.gmc.globalmarket.com/p...switcher-4-port-with-audio-output-165992.html
Is the only thing I can find that comes close to an audio extractor for HDMI. And it has an extra 3 inputs!
So you could get the HDMI dock, the HDMI adapter cable, this doodad, a receiver (or a digital audio to analog converter and THEN to a receiver), and then go out to your speakers. Of course that assumes the software/firmware on the EVO can just play audio out that end: because it is HDMI you would have to have a video signal of some kind going down the wire to activate the link. I suspect that last part would be the easiest part. Though, as developers would probably love something like this too.
Yet another case of DRM being a pain in the ass. in this case, we can thank Intel for being able and willing to sue companies into the ground for not following the HDMI rules.
One final note: if there is HDMI plugged in, all other audio stops (ie bluetooth, headphone jack and builtin speaker). I have not tested this, but this is what HTC said on their tech support forum when I asked.
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Just noticed it has stereo out, but the description is in some funny Engrish, so there is no telling if it is actually available.
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http://www.octavainc.com/HDMI switch 4port_toslink.htm
Appears to have been around for ~3 years, but almost $300 too!
*EDIT 3*
http://www.ambery.com/hdautorcasts.html
c/o
http://www.cepro.com/article/atlona_hdmi_13_audio_de_embedder_supports_lossless_audio/
Does not seem to be vaporware, and on the first link, is $128, which is a steal coming from the pro A/V market. Kinda high for us regular consumers, but for that market it's almost free.

Official Vehicle Dock Kit

Hi all.
Just took delivery of my dock kit, and it's very nice. Well built, but whether its worth £35 quid is another story.
Anyway, that aside...
When the default "Driving Menu" is enabled, is there a way to change it, especially to use CoPilot instead of Google navigation?
I have had a quick search in this section to see if anyone else asked the same question.

Im in the same boat. It would be nice if someone could do a workaround. Nice bit of kit for the price.

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Im in the same boat. It would be nice if someone could do a workaround. Nice bit of kit for the price.
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How do you get audio to come out of the rear connector. I plugged my 3.5mm cable into the socket and the sound still comes out the speaker!
Have you tried it?

Settings - dock settings
ALexander

alx37 said:
Settings - dock settings
ALexander
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Yep! I should have read the booklet, it did tell me in there ;-)
RTFM!

I struggle to take the phone out cleanly using on hand - always hit the power button. Dock mode seems pretty poor to me, seems to get all voice activated with road noise - is the google one any better? (we have a samsung 'special', I think?)

Another thing I've noticed is the terrible engine whine from the loudspeakers when its charging.
Now I tried headphone out socket too, and the same problem occurs.
To me it's a lovely piece of kit, but if you have it connect via Aux then u need to listen to the whinning noise from the charging.

Anyone conquered the noise suppression from an in car charger? It's doing my head in!

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Anyone conquered the noise suppression from an in car charger? It's doing my head in!
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have you checked it's not your car? Will try and remember to test if mine does this...

i also have the whining problem when charging. after some investigation, it appears to be caused by poor connections. in my case i suspect the head unit, as i didn't connect the rod at the back to the car frame with the bolt and nut.
you can get a ground loop isolator for about £15, but they just mask the problem - should really get it fixed if there is an electrical problem

Interesting. I have a 2008 Ford Mondeo from new. I'd hope that is electrically correct, but who knows.
I am awaiting delivery of a new car (Audi A3), so I will see if this has the same issue.
It's a real shame because the AUX out on the device increases the volume limit sent to the head unit and it makes a massive difference all round, this limit set by the poxy EU rules on the headphone out socket of the phone is really low (83% of max volume) and when you compare the two on the device its obvious the car kit is better.
BTW it makes the whining noise out of the headphone socket too, when plugged into cradle.

from what i've read, the noise when charging is usually from the alternator. do you notice the whine change when you speed up. if so, i'd get it checked out.
There is a method of basically powering the head unit direct from the battery, bypassing all the other connections and wires the juice has to go through to get to the head unit. probably what i will do if mine doesn't work after i've installed it properly.

I plugged mine into the radio today. From the headphone socket, no problem apart from a lack of volume (even on max gain, it is only just loud enough against the road noise). No background noise though.
Plugged into the connector on hte back of the dock is a completely different story. A ~10khz whine, which is present even with the 12V lead disconnected, and worse when it is connected. Sounds like breakthrough from a switch-mode power supply to me. Makes the audio-out on the dock not fit for purpose. Time to add my review on a fre sites selling them...
The other complaint I have is that it doesn't grip well enough to the windscreen.

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I plugged mine into the radio today. From the headphone socket, no problem apart from a lack of volume (even on max gain, it is only just loud enough against the road noise). No background noise though.
Plugged into the connector on hte back of the dock is a completely different story. A ~10khz whine, which is present even with the 12V lead disconnected, and worse when it is connected. Sounds like breakthrough from a switch-mode power supply to me. Makes the audio-out on the dock not fit for purpose. Time to add my review on a fre sites selling them...
The other complaint I have is that it doesn't grip well enough to the windscreen.
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I agree, although I get noise from the headphone socket when in the cradle and charging.
I have raised a returns to send my unit back for a refund. It's a waste of time having it if you cant listen to music on it! Imagine listening to the SatNav with all that silence and "whine" on the speakers, it would drive you bonkers.
It's a real shame as the overall quality is pretty good, but it is not fit for purpose in my opinion.
Will update this thread if I get any more news.

Just posting a review on Amazon... found this review too
2.0 out of 5 stars Dissapointing, 28 July 2011
By
Sean Houlihane
This review is from: Samsung Vehicle Dock Kit for Galaxy S II (Electronics)
For the price, this does not do well enough. Yes it fits well, and holds the phone, with an integrated dock connector. However:
It is a push-fit corner grabbing design, and I find it almost impossible to release the phone with one hand.
The windscreen suction mount is feeble, so maybe 20% of the time rather than removing the phone, I end up with the whole thing coming un-stuck.
Dock mode on this phone is almost useless, so plan on replacing it if you think it is a good feature.
The audio-out functions, but there is a very poor electrical design - even if the charger is not plugged in, the signal picks up a constant high pitched whine (even with the car engine off)
Buy a cheaper one, and you'll feel less hard done by.

tshoulihane said:
I plugged mine into the radio today. From the headphone socket, no problem apart from a lack of volume (even on max gain, it is only just loud enough against the road noise). No background noise though.
Plugged into the connector on hte back of the dock is a completely different story. A ~10khz whine, which is present even with the 12V lead disconnected, and worse when it is connected. Sounds like breakthrough from a switch-mode power supply to me. Makes the audio-out on the dock not fit for purpose. Time to add my review on a fre sites selling them...
The other complaint I have is that it doesn't grip well enough to the windscreen.
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Hilarious, just posted your comment on here from Amazon, didnt realise it was you until after I posted it!

There's one more for you to find - and it's not a cut'n'paste... Maybe not live yet.

If you don't want to run a car Samsung's menu
If you don't want to run a car Samsung's menu install aps from the store :
Dock No-Op .
If you want to restore the default you have to uninstall the application.
Samsung Cars Menu and that sucks and this increased volume of system sounds, it's up scares. I think everybody can hear it in the around car
And what this menu is, and so one can make your own card to use in the car.
Personally, I mounted the Launcher 7 menu that conforms to the Windows Mobile 7 and has the icon in the system ankles. Cubes as they rotate with the vertical grip twist at the best level for navigation. This arrangement works well in the car, because after docking nothing changes and I can continue listening to your music on the equipment in the car, not a hundred times to click to activate the music listened to on headphones before
Sorry for bad english, but google translator

I was a bit apprehensive about buying this dock as I'd read a lot of reviews complaining about engine noise and sub-par audio quality when outputting sound through the line-out but since receiving it I've been really pleased with it. There is no engine noise or unwanted sounds so I guess this varies from car to car and depends on how your stereo is wired up. I've also run a few low frequency speaker test mp3s through the line-out and headphone-out it as I'd read reports of the line-out cutting off some of the low frequencies but to my ear I hear no different and I get a good response from my sub with both. My only gripe is that the call audio is not routed through the line out. Although I knew this was the case prior to buying, I just can't understand why Samsung would have left this feature out. I've read that this was the case with other Samsung phone's official docks previously and in most of the cases I've read about a solution has been found either through a OS/kernel tweak or an app which sorts the problem out. I'm just hopeful that a helpful dev is able to have a look at this and see if a solution can be found for the SGS2. Otherwise it's a great dock

I have to say I am disappointed with this dock. Coming from a Moto Atrix dock, this is poorly designed. Love my phone, hate the dock.
At first glance it seems extremely well made but after using for a while it is fustrating.
One, they use to many materials compared to the Atrix dock. This thing is huge.
Two, its hard to get out of the dock. The atrix dock had a nice flip up latch that secured the phone.
Three, you have to run two cables from the dock for changing and audio. The atrix dock had one cable coming from the dock with an audio out dongle near the end of the cable.
Last, the freaking background noise is terrible. Dont even try to listen to audio at a low volume.
I like the flip up charger adapter. Also it works with the official extended battery. But thats about it.
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Question Analog audio output via USB-C?

I just finished reading this review on the Galaxy S21 FE and noticed it doesn't have a headphone jack. I'm okay with that as long as the USB-C port supports analog audio output to cheapo USB-C earphones.
So my question: Is analog audio output via USB-C supported? Or is this device like a Pixel phone and requires more expensive earphones with a DAC chip built into them?
Samsung Galaxy S21 FE Review: Good phone, wrong price
The Samsung Galaxy S21 FE is a great smartphone, but you should not buy it at full price. Click to read our full review.
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Only digital. The dongle has to have a DAC in it or whatever audio device you are connecting it to. The Samsung one works fine except it's hanging from the bottom of the phone... not good.

blackhawk said:
Only digital. The dongle has to have a DAC in it or whatever audio device you are connecting it to. The Samsung one works fine except it's hanging from the bottom of the phone... not good.
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Thanks. Yeah, that's a deal breaker. I really like using cheapo earphones at work, whether they be 3.5mm jack or USB-C (analog). Having DAC outside the phone is cumbersome and Bluetooth earphones are too much fuss.

zpunout said:
Thanks. Yeah, that's a deal breaker. I really like using cheapo earphones at work, whether they be 3.5mm jack or USB-C (analog). Having DAC outside the phone is cumbersome and Bluetooth earphones are too much fuss.
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The Buds+ sound better or as good as cheap earbuds or phones. They're light, don't come out and have a long run time.
Not perfect but pretty good... Samsung should have kept the 3.5 jack.
Dropping the SD card slot in their recent flagship phones lost them my purchase. Got another new Note 10+ instead.
In 2-3 years if they continue to chase Apple... they are dead to me.

blackhawk said:
The Buds+ sound better or as good as cheap earbuds or phones. They're light, don't come out and have a long run time.
Not perfect but pretty good... Samsung should have kept the 3.5 jack.
Dropping the SD card slot in their recent flagship phones lost them my purchase. Got another new Note 10+ instead.
In 2-3 years if they continue to chase Apple... they are dead to me.
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I agree. This whole 3.5 jack non-issue is proving to be the most frustrating "progress" that manufacturers have made. Let's not forget that at first, the sole reason that Apple did this was because the jack "did not fit". Apparently all other manufacturers realized the same thing although they have no problem in making phones bigger than 6.7 inches. Nowadays it's just an excuse to sell expensive gear to people and these wireless buds do not solve the problem. I have perfectly good headphones that do not require charging and that do not fall out of my ears but I cannot listen to them no matter what I do. Dongles are crap quality with background noise and there's nothing you can do about it. It's funny but a few years ago, you actually felt that phones were capable of doing everything but now... not so much.

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I agree. This whole 3.5 jack non-issue is proving to be the most frustrating "progress" that manufacturers have made. Let's not forget that at first, the sole reason that Apple did this was because the jack "did not fit". Apparently all other manufacturers realized the same thing although they have no problem in making phones bigger than 6.7 inches. Nowadays it's just an excuse to sell expensive gear to people and these wireless buds do not solve the problem. I have perfectly good headphones that do not require charging and that do not fall out of my ears but I cannot listen to them no matter what I do. Dongles are crap quality with background noise and there's nothing you can do about it. It's funny but a few years ago, you actually felt that phones were capable of doing everything but now... not so much.
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I totally get why the removal of a space consuming century old standard 3.5mm jack happened, but why the removal of internal DAC for analog audio out via USB-C? I like to have earplugs which can dangle from my shirt while I'm not talking on my phone. I used Bluetooth for a while but they got neglected because I always forgot to take them out of my toolbag and charge them. Also, they couldn't dangle from my shirt because of the no wires thing. How much extra does it cost to manufacture a phone with internal DAC via USB-C?

I have no idea honestly. Whenever I try to think of a logical answer, it always boils down to marketing and reducing costs of manufacturing while also making more money from accessories. They are trying so hard to push these wireless buds to customers that they would do anything so that we spend more money on them or on the accessories for wired headphones. Just look at the S21 FE, the pre-order came with buds included. The new P50 PRO from Huawei, also pushed the wireless earphones with it's offer. And people still hate these dang things but somehow they don't care. At this rate I'm going back to physical mp3's )

Give Samsung tech support some feedback on how you're loving it all.
Trust me it will make you feel better...
The last rep hung up on me and no I wasn't cursing.
Mission accomplished☠