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guys,i have a serius problem with my htc tytn.my lcd is flashing,horizontal stripes are going up and down all the time.the screen is for the moment full of grey rounds,but after some sec it is ok for some minutes.it's look's like the software mistake,so i flash my rom and it is the same thing.is lcd out or what? i realy need some usefull advice!
thanks
i forgot to tell,that those flashing stripes are mostly when i chagre the pda.they are on when pda is not charging,but some time to time.when it is on cable,it is aufwul!
c'mon guys,my lcd is blinking like crazy.i need a solution.
need more info...really
It could be a range of things. Does it change when you move it, press the sides,tap the screen? Does it do it by itself.....when it is just sitting there...no external movement. More info needed.
yxgwfty said:
It could be a range of things. Does it change when you move it, press the sides,tap the screen? Does it do it by itself.....when it is just sitting there...no external movement. More info needed.
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it has minor efects,if i tap on the screen when he is doing this.if i slide him to landscape,screen is turn,but stripes are going up and down like in portrait .it is do it by itself,yes.i put him on table,and suddenly bum,start flashing.
i thought there is some power bricks,you know,like the lcd is touchy for the minor change in power.but it is weird,realy.
i take some pictures with one old vga camera phone.hope anyone can help me with the problem.
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it sounds as if the connector inside the phone is coming loose. If you are able, try and pressure the connector so the connection is good.
http://blog-imgs-1.fc2.com/i/n/u/inuchanbt/CHT9000_dismantle05.jpg
http://blog-imgs-1.fc2.com/i/n/u/inuchanbt/CHT9000_dismantle06.jpg
Thats the connection i am referring to. If you need assistance in dismantling the hermes, try the mod, Mike Channons guide
If it is not this, then i am not sure...
Do this as a last resort as it will void any warranty you may have with your phone... it also sounds as though the screen is on its way out.
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it sounds as if the connector inside the phone is coming loose. If you are able, try and pressure the connector so the connection is good.
http://blog-imgs-1.fc2.com/i/n/u/inuchanbt/CHT9000_dismantle05.jpg
http://blog-imgs-1.fc2.com/i/n/u/inuchanbt/CHT9000_dismantle06.jpg
Thats the connection i am referring to. If you need assistance in dismantling the hermes, try the mod, Mike Channons guide
If it is not this, then i am not sure...
Do this as a last resort as it will void any warranty you may have with your phone... it also sounds as though the screen is on its way out.
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ya,i thought it is screen fault,but i doubt,because phone is relising scratchy voices trouht speaker.i will try that conector.i don't have warranty any more,so no big deal if i void this.
duh,i am not realy sure witch connector might be lose? i must say,my pda drop on the floor about 2weeks ago.maybe from there are these problems?
I have a huge problem, basically I was sick and tired of my black housing for the phone, so I ordered the white one from ebay. I was so happy it came that I forgot to shut down the phone, well during half way of the work, while I was trying to pry it open I remembered and turned it on and it worked I opened it a bit more open and it suddenly went black and since then everything is working except the LCD.
I have no idea whats the problem is the LCD broke or what?
Also when it shut down and me trying to reconnect the LCD flat cable to see if thats the problem I was nervous and did that which you see in the picture. Now my issue is what if I buy a new screen connect it and it doesn't work because the FPC connector?
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I have a huge problem, basically I was sick and tired of my black housing for the phone, so I ordered the white one from ebay. I was so happy it came that I forgot to shut down the phone, well during half way of the work, while I was trying to pry it open I remembered and turned it on and it worked I opened it a bit more open and it suddenly went black and since then everything is working except the LCD.
I have no idea whats the problem is the LCD broke or what?
Also when it shut down and me trying to reconnect the LCD flat cable to see if thats the problem I was nervous and did that which you see in the picture. Now my issue is what if I buy a new screen connect it and it doesn't work because the FPC connector?
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The connection pins themselves do not look damaged, on the plastic shroud. The socket should work fine.
It's a little hard to make out fine detail in the pic...take a magnifying glass to it and check for cracks or splits in the pins.
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The connection pins themselves do not look damaged, on the plastic shroud. The socket should work fine.
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Hmm it seems like it goes one small one then longer one, its hard to see from he picture but I think two of the longer ones are missing. And what should be the problem with the LCD because that happened before I damaged the socket.
Between thank you for the fast reply.
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Hmm it seems like it goes one small one then longer one, its hard to see from he picture but I think two of the longer ones are missing. And what should be the problem with the LCD because that happened before I damaged the socket.
Between thank you for the fast reply.
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Well I don't see any missing pins, but you'll have a better view.
As for you LCD...no idea. Generally it's a good idea to turn everything off before you open electrical equipment. You could have caused a short in the process of opening it live.
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Well I don't see any missing pins, but you'll have a better view.
As for you LCD...no idea. Generally it's a good idea to turn everything off before you open electrical equipment. You could have caused a short in the process of opening it live.
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Would that be on the motherboard or the LCD, basically should I bother repairing it or just sell it for spare parts thats my issue right now.
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Would that be on the motherboard or the LCD, basically should I bother repairing it or just sell it for spare parts thats my issue right now.
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If you try to power it on does the vibrate activate...basically does it do everything you'd expect EXCEPT the screen doesn't work or does it do nothing at all?
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If you try to power it on does the vibrate activate...basically does it do everything you'd expect EXCEPT the screen doesn't work or does it do nothing at all?
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Like I said earlier everything works, I can still receive SMS, phone calls (I can answer them since the digitizer works), e-mails, Facebook msgs, vibrations, sound, microphone... Everything works except the LCD.
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Like I said earlier everything works, I can still receive SMS, phone calls (I can answer them since the digitizer works), e-mails, Facebook msgs, vibrations, sound, microphone... Everything works except the LCD.
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You might try replacing the LCD and hope you haven't damaged the connector. If you have, a self-repair is unlikely given its size and that of the pins.
Or you dump it and buy a new phone.
Either way it's gonna cost you money. The first is cheaper but may not work.
I think that's your only options.
Yeah I knew from the start it was gonna cost me money, but I wanted the cheapest way out
Thanks a lot for the help I think I am gonna try to fix it. Get some experience while doing it too
Silthrax said:
Yeah I knew from the start it was gonna cost me money, but I wanted the cheapest way out
Thanks a lot for the help I think I am gonna try to fix it. Get some experience while doing it too
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Hey did you ever figure out the connector issue? Same problem
ok so... the store broke my lcd while they were trying to remove the digitizer... and now i am looking at ebay on which lcd+touch assemlby to buy and i have a question. are the sony, acer and sharp lcd versions compatible with all one x mobos? i did some research and found that the sony version is the best (so they say)
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ok so... the store broke my lcd while they were trying to remove the digitizer... and now i am looking at ebay on which lcd+touch assemlby to buy and i have a question. are the sony, acer and sharp lcd versions compatible with all one x mobos? i did some research and found that the sony version is the best (so they say)
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Hi,
The Sony and Sharp are not compatible with each other( I've tried to replace one with the other), I've never come across the Acer LCD in Australia so I'm not sure. If you don't know how to tell the Sharp and Sony apart, the Sharp has Green backing on the flex cable, while the Sony is sort of orange with a few yellowish stripeson the back of the LCD flex cable. Sorry I couldn't find any of my photos which show the difference. I would recommend buying the LCD/digitizer combo and a separate midframe to mount it on, as it comes with new 3M adhesive, but you may also have to add a few TINY drops of instant adhesive, I say tiny as too much will press out under the digitizer and will show up, but I have found that without it the digitizer will lift from the frame eventually due to the tight fit of the frame in the rear shell of the HOX.
Hope you go ok!
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Sorry, just a bit of additional info, have also come across posts saying the colours of the LCD look washed out with the wrong LCD.
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Hi,
The Sony and Sharp are not compatible with each other( I've tried to replace one with the other), I've never come across the Acer LCD in Australia so I'm not sure. If you don't know how to tell the Sharp and Sony apart, the Sharp has Green backing on the flex cable, while the Sony is sort of orange with a few yellowish stripeson the back of the LCD flex cable. Sorry I couldn't find any of my photos which show the difference. I would recommend buying the LCD/digitizer combo and a separate midframe to mount it on, as it comes with new 3M adhesive, but you may also have to add a few TINY drops of instant adhesive, I say tiny as too much will press out under the digitizer and will show up, but I have found that without it the digitizer will lift from the frame eventually due to the tight fit of the frame in the rear shell of the HOX.
Hope you go ok!
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Sorry, just a bit of additional info, have also come across posts saying the colours of the LCD look washed out with the wrong LCD.
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ok tnx for the info... and i was thinking i can just order whatever. i checked the panel_type in the last_kmsg and i found that i have the replacement screen for which nobody knows who makes it. but it is a warm panel so it probably is sony... but i have to rip it apart to be certain
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and313 said:
ok tnx for the info... and i was thinking i can just order whatever. i checked the panel_type in the last_kmsg and i found that i have the replacement screen for which nobody knows who makes it. but it is a warm panel so it probably is sony... but i have to rip it apart to be certain
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That's the only downside - having to pull phone apart to check which one you have. Also another tip, phone need to be on to change LCD's, boot phone up with it apart, then wake up with power button on old screen, then sleep with power button, change screens then wake up again. There are plenty of vids on youtube to help, if new screen doesn't activate, check flex cable is in square and all the way - have had this problem before also.
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That's the only downside - having to pull phone apart to check which one you have. Also another tip, phone need to be on to change LCD's, boot phone up with it apart, then wake up with power button on old screen, then sleep with power button, change screens then wake up again. There are plenty of vids on youtube to help, if new screen doesn't activate, check flex cable is in square and all the way - have had this problem before also.
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tnx... you answered all i was wondering about really appreciated
edit: ok so i riped it apart again and its a sony. for anyone who is wondering what might happen if the wrong screen is attached to the mobo watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHdtgu4rbxI
and the store said: why you dont just buy the "original" for 40€.... god i hate such people
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okhughes said:
That's the only downside - having to pull phone apart to check which one you have. Also another tip, phone need to be on to change LCD's, boot phone up with it apart, then wake up with power button on old screen, then sleep with power button, change screens then wake up again. There are plenty of vids on youtube to help, if new screen doesn't activate, check flex cable is in square and all the way - have had this problem before also.
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I replaced my screen, but I powered down when removing the screen, and putting the replacement in. Now neither will light up. How do you solve this?
There are no guarantees with this, but try pulling the battery out for a minute or two. then with the original screen in, boot up and let it get to the lock screen wait for the screen to sleep then press power button to wake up then again to sleep. when the screen is sleeping try changing over the screens and then press power button to wake again. this is assuming that the screen displays on startup, but even if it doesn't try this process anyway. if it doesn't work, try doing with the new screen back to the old screen after pulling the battery. I have only ever come across this once, but it wasn't from powering down during a screen change, but pulling the battery seemed to fix it.
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There are no guarantees with this, but try pulling the battery out for a minute or two. then with the original screen in, boot up and let it get to the lock screen wait for the screen to sleep then press power button to wake up then again to sleep. when the screen is sleeping try changing over the screens and then press power button to wake again. this is assuming that the screen displays on startup, but even if it doesn't try this process anyway. if it doesn't work, try doing with the new screen back to the old screen after pulling the battery. I have only ever come across this once, but it wasn't from powering down during a screen change, but pulling the battery seemed to fix it.
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I tried that, didn't work. I think I know the problem now. after searching on multiple forums, I think it's the 220 coil. A lot of people have had a similar issue, and they say they've solved it by replacing the coil. What I want to know is, how I managed to short the coil in the span of a few minutes, despite having used the same screen as the cracked one.
It is possible to do, although they can go for no reason, I recommend taking it somewhere to get coil replaced, it is a very fiddly job and you need to have a steady hand and the right tools (hot air gun) although my father managed to do one with a standard soldering iron, although it wasn't the best job. you risk damaging other components also if they blow off the mainboard (if you can find them), worst case scenario is the display ic has gone - that one will have to be done by a professional.
what a sh!t phone
we tried to repare it 2 years ago.
but failed.
so i just the pieces to gether wanted to see if i can fix it.
still not lcd just touchscreen (and now im not sure if i even have touchscreen lol maybe i broke that to now not sure
anyway sucks i have a brand new lcd touchscreen with frame we bought back then. and its even the right screen a green flex cable like the original one and still noting so i guess i broke the 220 chip thing how dont know. but not sure if i can replace it sucks it was a good phone
is there any help a easy fix? or do i really need to soldern that chip i cant sell the phone since there is personal data on it contacts and pictures (i guess dont remembrer)
It may still be replaceable, if it's been sitting for 2 headed is the phone taking a charge? It needs to be on to change the screen. If it is charging and booting up, and the screen still won't work when being changed try doing a hard reset by holding the power and volume down button until it restarts - have had advice by someone who repairs phones for a living that this should reset what the phone is looking at for hardware and you should be able to do screen replacement. Failing that chances are it's going to be dead. Not much point in selling it these days as they aren't worth much these days. If the phone won't start the battery may be dead flat. The phone needs some voltage to run its charging firmware, you can try to get it charging by leaving on charge for 10 min or more, even if no charge light, then hold power/vol up/vol down at the same time to recalibrate the charge circuit, it may start to charge after this.
Let me know how it goes, I wouldn't spend too much time on it, unless it's now a project..
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It may still be replaceable, if it's been sitting for 2 headed is the phone taking a charge? It needs to be on to change the screen. If it is charging and booting up, and the screen still won't work when being changed try doing a hard reset by holding the power and volume down button until it restarts - have had advice by someone who repairs phones for a living that this should reset what the phone is looking at for hardware and you should be able to do screen replacement. Failing that chances are it's going to be dead. Not much point in selling it these days as they aren't worth much these days. If the phone won't start the battery may be dead flat. The phone needs some voltage to run its charging firmware, you can try to get it charging by leaving on charge for 10 min or more, even if no charge light, then hold power/vol up/vol down at the same time to recalibrate the charge circuit, it may start to charge after this.
Let me know how it goes, I wouldn't spend too much time on it, unless it's now a project..
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ow volum down? okay will try that. but i think i killed it lol cause the charging light wont come on anymore lol
it was just a idea that poped up in my head, that maybe i can save it so i friend can use it but i think i will just trow it away lol or something will give it a shot and see. will report back
nvm it's dead it wont even boot lol. i think i burned sometime lol that little cable that onder the battery thats conects the botem part with the other fliped out 2 time and 3time it smeled burned lol nvm
Sounds like it may have shorted, a replacement is fairly cheap , just depends on how serious you are about spending money on it.
I forgot to mention that when calibrating charge circuit with power/vol up/vol down all held down at the same time, they need to be held down for at least 2 minutes.
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Sounds like it may have shorted, a replacement is fairly cheap , just depends on how serious you are about spending money on it.
I forgot to mention that when calibrating charge circuit with power/vol up/vol down all held down at the same time, they need to be held down for at least 2 minutes.
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nvm i think i fried the cpu or something lol it wont turn on anymore.
i trew it in the bin
Probably the best result, it's probably cheaper to to buy a second hand one and also cause less aggravation when you can't work out why it won't work. You could always sell the replacement screen.
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Probably the best result, it's probably cheaper to to buy a second hand one and also cause less aggravation when you can't work out why it won't work. You could always sell the replacement screen.
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dont think i will sell it i mean who would buy it? lol but guess i could try for like 20euro or 10 lol.
and have 2 batteries for 10 or 5 euro lol
have 3 backcovers also 2 white and 1 black.
we bought every thing to repaire it but yeah.
could maybe sell some **** but pff dont knopw. (its my oncles old phone will ask him (maybe sell every thing exept de motherboard)
That's what I'd do, try and sell it for parts minus the mainboard. If that doesn't work, put it away somewhere and if you come across a dead one cheap, swap the mainboards out (providing it has the same screen - that's a given). Good luck with whatever you decide to do. :good:
I have a KGL unit with RK3188 quad core CPU and 1024x600 screen.
I was working with custom ROM (made by Malaysk)
I didn't update anything recently.
Suddenly that morning, the screen is black.
I am able to hear the radio, and Bluetooth calls are being transferred through the unit, but the screen is totally black, zip, nada, nothing at all.
Any ideas what could get wrong?
I've had this happen before also. Do you see any boot logo at all?
Dave
I see nothing at all. Black all over the way.No logo
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that is a hardware failure
contact yoru seller
unfortunately, the seller completely ignores my messages.
amir77a said:
unfortunately, the seller completely ignores my messages.
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Did you tried to enter the recovery or it is shows black screen also?
If yes, maybe your display panel is wrong. If you seller ignore your messages, try to check your panel's contact to the board.
Check to see if you can get into recovery. If screen works, turn off lights when in rom. I had issue with auto brightness which was too low. Only way I could fix was to wipe and reinstall and turn off auto brightness.
Just updating... it was a hardware problem.
Flat cable problem + certain transistor.
Thanks for your comments.
How did you figure it out?
Dave
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How did you figure it out?
Dave
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The buttons were OK, I was able to listen to radio, switch stations (via the wheel control), and even BT calls went through.
That made me guess that this is a hardware problem, and not software.
and no matter what you did you never got video ? Ive got this same problem but after a hard reset Ill get the video back sometimes.
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and no matter what you did you never got video ? Ive got this same problem but after a hard reset Ill get the video back sometimes.
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Actually, I even didn't try to hard reset the unit.
Took it from my technician, and it was working, without any hard reset.
To be precise, I'm going to visit him again tomorrow, since the colors on the screen are a bit on the green side, and a bit smeared.
Not a disaster, but not as it should be.
I guess one of the flat cables inside the unit, is not in its place.
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Actually, I even didn't try to hard reset the unit.
Took it from my technician, and it was working, without any hard reset.
To be precise, I'm going to visit him again tomorrow, since the colors on the screen are a bit on the green side, and a bit smeared.
Not a disaster, but not as it should be.
I guess one of the flat cables inside the unit, is not in its place.
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Did the technician just reseat the cables or was something actually replaced?
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Did the technician just reseat the cables or was something actually replaced?
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At first replcaed something... the second visit, probably things were a bit loosen up...
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At first replcaed something... the second visit, probably things were a bit loosen up...
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Any chance you could get details on what was replaced?
I had a similar issue - would lose screen output, it would go either black or white. Touch screen would still work, and radio/BT as well.
Then I'd disconnect the flat cable and reattach it, and it would work for a couple of days. Final solution (it seems) was to hold the flat cable with tape/hot glue!
Thank you, mine just went out again, it was fine for a month or so after reseating all the ribbon cables in the ZIF connectors, I'll do it again tomorrow and try securing them with some tape.
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I had a similar issue - would lose screen output, it would go either black or white. Touch screen would still work, and radio/BT as well.
Then I'd disconnect the flat cable and reattach it, and it would work for a couple of days. Final solution (it seems) was to hold the flat cable with tape/hot glue!
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did you reattach the flat cable with the radio on or off please help me because my head unit had became with black screen but the radio function normaly
Same symptoms here, any updates on what to look for? screen isn't even dim, touch works, sound works, it connects to my hotspot, but no visible screen, Witson PX5.
Which transistor ? I have a multimeter handy
A friend of mine has a problem with his screen, see pics, it very strange and its somehow related to the SoM not the screen - I ve swapped the SoM for the one in my unit and the problem is cured on his unit but mine has it, I swapped them back and mine is fine but his has this problem.
It was on 5.1.1. and I ve tried several versions of 5.1.1. and several versions of 4.4.4. but I always get the same problem.
Any suggestions ?
Have I found the cause I wonder ? In the attached pic you can see a splodge of solder on what I m going to guess is the video output controller or something.
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Have I found the cause I wonder ? In the attached pic you can see a splodge of solder on what I m going to guess is the video output controller or something.
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Who would carelessly drip solder into the unit? if it were to drip somewhere vital it would have fried or fry your car wires, even worse catch on fire.
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Who would carelessly drip solder into the unit? if it were to drip somewhere vital it would have fried or fry your car wires, even worse catch on fire.
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Theres no solder anywhere else and I dont think it dripped past the lid and the DVD player leaving no trace, I think someone was working on it for some reason or maybe bad quality control at the factory.
Did removing the solder splash resolve the issue?
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Did removing the solder splash resolve the issue?
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Not done it yet, gonna try later . . .
I am interested too I've got the exact same problem. Pumpkin send me a new screen even though I've got no warranty anymore and the problem disappeared. Sadly this new screen is without a flex cable for the touchscreen so commands were not possible.
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I am interested too I've got the exact same problem. Pumpkin send me a new screen even though I've got no warranty anymore and the problem disappeared. Sadly this new screen is without a flex cable for the touchscreen so commands were not possible.
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Yes, but the problem on my friend's unit is not screen related.
Why cant you use the cable from your old screen ?
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Yes, but the problem on my friend's unit is not screen related.
Why cant you use the cable from your old screen ?
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Okay but screen issues are exactly the same.
The new screen has only one flex cable it's working but touch commands are not recognised. And the old screen has two flex cables.
Edit: I don't know if the new screen suffers the same problem because I had it running for only one minute and the screen issues are randomly.
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Did removing the solder splash resolve the issue?
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Yes, it did !!
Half an hour of holding a soldering iron to a piece of copper braid and rubbing them over the solder/components covered in solder sorted it !
I used an iron that isnt quite hot enough to melt the solder used on these devices and it melted the solder splash easily, suggesting it was household solder or solder left by someone after the unit left the factory.
Still it was an excruciating half an hour - I thought all that heat my damage the SoM and maybe possibly remove components.
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Okay but screen issues are exactly the same.
The new screen has only one flex cable it's working but touch commands are not recognised. And the old screen has two flex cables.
Edit: I don't know if the new screen suffers the same problem because I had it running for only one minute and the screen issues are randomly.
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Your old screen assembly is the screen + touchpanel. That is why there are two flexcables. One for the screen, one for the touchpanel. Your new screen assembly is the screen only.
You would have to move the touchpanel from the old to the new screen. However, that could be very difficult when the touchpanel surface is fully glued to the screen surface. If you're lucky the touchpanel is only attached along the edges. Then you might be able to remove it and stick it to the new screen.
Easiest way is to contact Pumpkin and ask them to send you the full assembly, so screen + attached touchpanel.
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Your old screen assembly is the screen + touchpanel. That is why there are two flexcables. One for the screen, one for the touchpanel. Your new screen assembly is the screen only.
You would have to move the touchpanel from the old to the new screen. However, that could be very difficult when the touchpanel surface is fully glued to the screen surface. If you're lucky the touchpanel is only attached along the edges. Then you might be able to remove it and stick it to the new screen.
Easiest way is to contact Pumpkin and ask them to send you the full assembly, so screen + attached touchpanel.
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Pumpkin are just sellers, it may be better to contact the factory direct, mighty be cheaper too.
Yes thanks for your answers