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The Pixel Watch is launching this fall alongside the Pixel 7
Google has just announced the long-awaited Pixel Watch, which is planned to launch later this summer alongside the Pixel 7 smartphones.
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Highly unlikely, but I'm really hoping they reduce the thickness of the bezels in the final design. It's a real bummer, the watch body is small enough as it is.
If not for the first gen at least for the 2nd gen.

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Moto 360 v2 Specs and Hands-On

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400 mAh battery doesn't look very impressive to me. Screen is still LCD and not OLED so overall battery life could be at most 30-40% better, in my opinion.
To me, the first Moto 360 look like the successor of the new one design-wise, not the other way around. The original design is pure and futuristic.
Price also is increased by $100 (for the 46mm watch) which I find kind of greedy from Motorola.
I predict that the new Moto 360 won't have the success of the first edition, but it remains to be seen.
Personally not a big enough upgrade for me to shell out more money. Bought mine on sale for $149 and ordered a black metal band for $12 and it is working great. After the initial set-up I have never had a problem making it though a day with battery life.
I agree, mine lasts a very full day into night, not enough an upgrade to switch. A safer / less likely to crack back is a little tempting.. But I might try one of those Steel Connect products...
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Won´t buy it until it drops to $150 and I sell my 1st gen watch (I would consider other smarwatches at a similar price too)
I was really, really hoping that they would move to OLED. It really boggles me as to why they stayed with LCD, considering OLED can offer much better power-savings, and ambient mode is pretty much pointless on an LCD screen.
I would have definitely upgraded had they switched to OLED for the 2015 Moto 360, but so far, pretty disappointed with the announcement. I was half-hoping that they would implement some NFC-capabilities, but they didn't do that, either.
Wow I have to agree with all of you. LCD screen will eat the battery, and they kept the flat tire. I was excited for the final specs but now realize I will not be upgrading from my $149 first gen 360, not much changed.
I have an LG G watch R and wore it all day today with heavy usage with ambient mode on plus disabled minimal ambient screen mode so the screen looks active the entire day. As I write this 14 hours later, I still have 63% battery left. I think the Moto 360 is much more stylish, but it is a stylish black screen most of the day. I guess I will be looking at Samsung & other new watches.
I have had an LG G Watch R for about a year and just got a 1st generation Moto 360 for formal affairs. I am glad the 360 does not have an OLED screen. I don't use the Moto 360 as my daily driver, but as a short term watch for formal gatherings. I don't need it to have great battery life, but I do need to avoid the burn in issues I've seen some LG G Watch R owners experience. I want to be able to use lighter watch faces with no fear of burn in.
I am very glad I got the 1st generation 360, before the 2nd generation came out. The latest 360 has a bigger battery, and looks nice, although I do prefer the look of the 1st generation model. With all that the 2nd generation 360 brings, it is simply not worth it's much higher price tag. Android Wear devices, used to cost much less than a phone. Now, Android Wear prices are on par with the phones they're supposed to pair with and depend on for information. They don't even have independent call and talk capability, but are priced like phones...
I did a comparison today in Moto Maker and the 2nd generation 360 would cost more than double for the same design as I purchased just last week for a 1st generation 360. That's pretty wild to me, since the 2nd generation 360 is not "that much" better.
To me, Moto and others that have just released 2015 Android Wear devices. Are in some delusional space, thinking they will get sales at their present asking prices.
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To me, Moto and others that have just released 2015 Android Wear devices. Are in some delusional space, thinking they will get sales at their present asking prices.
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I agree with this, they saw the Apple Watch pricing and they thought to match it. The fate will be the same as with Galaxy S6 vs iPhone 6: Samsung did a price drop after a few short months.
Yeah this new one just ain't worth the upgrade... I really thought they would work out a way of getting rid of the flat tire.. The price is a joke.
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I was really, really hoping that they would move to OLED. It really boggles me as to why they stayed with LCD, considering OLED can offer much better power-savings, and ambient mode is pretty much pointless on an LCD screen.
I would have definitely upgraded had they switched to OLED for the 2015 Moto 360, but so far, pretty disappointed with the announcement. I was half-hoping that they would implement some NFC-capabilities, but they didn't do that, either.
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I agree with the OLED. My assumption is that they could not outsource an OLED display of their required size and shape (1.56" with flat-tyre at the bottom, minimal bezel and all the electronics in the flat-tyre area) in a cost-effective manner. Samsung and LG use much smaller 1.2" displays with large to huge bezels. Huawei is a bit of a surprise though.
But with a 400mAh battery, updated processor and maybe LCD backlight improvements I think we are in for a surprise regarding battery life with the always-on display. Or at least I hope so.
In the mean time, I really like the Samsung Gear S2 so I may just get that as an upgrade if it has really good battery life.

>[Review] Competition in the Smartphone market

After weeks of leaks and rumours, OnePlus 3T has finally become official. The phone is an upgrade to the company’s OnePlus 3 smartphone launched in June 2016. OnePlus 3T features an updated processor – the Snapdragon 821, along with more battery capacity and a better front camera. The new phone is also more expensive and starts at $439 ( Rs 29,700) for the 64GB version and $479 for 128GB (Rs 32,000).OnePlus 3T is currently running on Android Marshmallow, but is expected to get the Nougat update by the end of the year.While OnePlus flagship devices are much cheaper compared to those from Apple, Samsung and Google, their performance is top notch. We decided to pitch the new OnePlus 3T against other 5.5-inch flagships: Apple iPhone 7 Plus, Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, and Google Pixel XL.
Oneplus3T
OnePlus 3T brings moderate updates to the OnePlus 3. The phone features Qualcomm’s new Snapdragon 821 processor (same as on Pixel XL) and has seen a bump in battery capacity, which now stands at 3400 mAh – compared to the OnePlus 3’s 3000 mAh battery.
OnePlus 3T also comes with a new 16MP front camera with Samsung 3P8SP processor. The phone will be available in two colour variants – Soft Gold and Bold Gunmetal. OnePlus 3T comes with 6GB RAM, but there’s a new 128GB storage version as well.
We had reviewed the OnePlus 3, and found that it comes with one of the best cameras among Android devices. This works well in both bright and low-light conditions. OnePlus 3T is currently running on Android Marshmallow, but is expected to get the Nougat update by the end of the year.
Apple iPhone 7 Plus
Apple’s new iPhone 7 smartphones have seen restricted upgrades over the iPhone 6s smartphones. Apple has kept design changes to a minimum, but bumped up performance with the new quad-core A10 Fusion chip.
The major upgrade was the addition of a dual-rear camera (12MP+12MP) to the iPhone 7 Plus that gives users the ability to take DSLR style photos, for example – taking ‘bokeh’ shots. iPhone 7 Plus also features an LCD display unlike the others in the list. The phone comes with 3GB RAM, and three storage variants. But it starts at Rs 72,000 in India making it the most expensive flagship on the list. The iPhone 7 Plus is also the tallest and widest phone among the four, but still manages to be the thinnest at 7.3mm.
Apple iPhone 7 Plus has seen a moderate increase in battery life compared to iPhone 6s Plus. It is also the only device in the list without a 3.5 mm headphone jack. In our review of the iPhone 7 Plus’ camera, we found the device to be a very potent low-light performer – the closest competition to which is the Google Pixel XL and S7 edge. The addition of a telephoto lens allows for users to take pictures with up to 2X optical zoom, something none of the other players offer.
Samsung Galaxy edge s7
With the Galaxy Note 7 dead, Galaxy S7 series is the only true flagship in Samsung’s lineup until the launch of the Galaxy S8 or possible the Note 8. This makes the Galaxy S7 Edge the oldest flagship featuring in this comparison. It was launched in February this year; all other devices were launched in the past two months.Samsung Galaxy S7 edge was launched in February and is still regarded as one of the best Android phones.
The camera on the Galaxy S7 Edge was hailed as one of the best in smartphones with special emphasis on its ability to take great images in low light conditions. The big 3600 mAh battery (highest among all four devices) makes sure the phone lasts a whole day of medium-to-heavy use with ease. The 5.5-inch Super AMOLED curved display is also a highlight of the device. Galaxy S7 Edge will be getting the Android Nougat update soon.
Google Pixel XL
The first device to carry the Google logo, Pixel XL (along with the Pixel) was launched in October this year, and is touted to feature the best ever camera on a smartphone. The 12.3MP camera sensor comes with a wider aperture and EIS, which makes for stunning low-light photography. Google is relying on software wizardry to bump up image quality on the Pixel phones.
Google Pixel XL is powered by a Snapdragon 821 processor – comes with 4GB RAM, which is coupled with 32GB or 128GB storage. The phone is significantly thicker than the others at 8.5mm. In our review, we liked the Google Pixel XL’s camera performance, both in low-light and regular lighting conditions. We also felt this phone comes very close to the iPhone 7 in terms of camera performance.
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Gear 360

I bought the S8+ not for a silly Fingerprint Sensor or any Biometrics module. Simply impressed by the Screen, coming from the Note 4 it is a worthy (not Note worthy) upgrade.
I do a lot of Photography and am really hoping to try out the Gear 360. THIS was one of the features that sold me. The ability to stream live Panoramic (Photosphere-style) video and experience on the Gear VR.
I believe it is released the same time the S8(+) goes on general sale. Anyone else intrigued by it? Please discuss…
I had last years Gear 360, so naturally was very excited to get the new version. I've used it a lot with my S8, S8+, iPhone 7 Plus and mac. I love this camera.
This is my review. It has everything covered (hopefully) , samples of every photo and video mode, plus more content will get added over the coming weeks and months of me using the 360. It's great to view the content on my Gear VR too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/05/1...view-every-mode-tested-on-ios-samsung-s8-mac/
Any questions please ask away as I am sure you might have some. The 360 camera is an acquired taste as at max 4K resolution it's not as sharp as you'd expect, mainly because 4K is spread out over 360 degrees.

OnePlus 7T vs Google Pixel 4 XL

Currently having a Pixel 4 XL as a loaner. I can barely get through the day before I need to recharge the battery. But I do love the Android 10 software on this phone as well as the no compromise camera.
So how's battery on the 7T (with latest sw update) compared to the Pixel 4 XL?
On the Pixel 4 XL I sometimes have problems with the Bluetooth and my ear phones (Bose 700 ANC and Airpods Pro), anyone in here using either of them with the 7T?
How's the camera on the 7T compared with the 4 XL?
Usually get 5-6 hours sot and the camera is decent. Not up to pixel quality but trades punches with Samsung regarding camera. Overall a fantastic device.
I'm using mine with Sony XM3 with no issues over bluetooth. Considering there's no 3.5mm jack it's not like there's any other choice.
I Carnt speak for the OnePlus 7t as I have the 7t Pro McLaren edition but a friend of mine has a 7t and I have had a pixel 4xl and it is a better buy than the pixel 4xl, depending on each individual's use you should see 5-6+ out of it where a any pixel 4xl I was lucky to scrape 5.
7t Pro on the other hand I'm getting around 7-8.
As for the cameras I think it's swings and roundabouts as 7t has features the pixel don't and then the pixel can do better in certain areas..
I believe the 7t is a all-round device it has decent battery, great screen, snappy top performance, versatile camera, audio is decent. Battery is decent,
For me pixel 4 doesn't have a lot going for it especially for its price tag it's well overpriced.
My personal opinion I prefere oxygen os than stock pixel android and I believe many others agree too.
I think the 7t it's a great choice.
Here's my take coming from a Pixel 2xl-
First off the P 2 xl is a great phone and I was excited with all the hype to get the P 4 xl, but I didn't. After the reviews, I was hoping for 5G. I decided to get the OP 7T. It's less money than the P4xl and, for me, more comfortable to hold than the 2xl. The screen quality on the 7T is sick and faster than the 2 xl. Plus unlike Verizon OP offers a payment plan that is ok and you could get a new phone every year, if you want to. It feels like a quality phone. Lastly, OP sends you a starter case AND a screen protector. Thats's money saved.
Battery usage-
Weekdays- heaviest usage
I take the train (6:15am) for about an hour and I lose about 10% if the train is packed up. In that setting ,the phone tries really hard to get out for a usable signal. It gets so slow that any article I want I email to my self. During the day I'll use it for calls mainly because I'm in front of a computer. We don't have office phones so our cell phone are the source of vocal communication. I'll do some light surfing and texting through the day so when 4:30 comes around I'm at around 55-60%. Both train rides consist of podcast listening and surfing/ texting. By the time I get home I'll be at 45%. I don't plug it in, for the night, until around 11, which puts me at around 33%. So for my style the battery is fine.
Now go figure your phone's daily life and you'll see where the power goes. On weekends I'm not on the train so by the time I go to bed I'm probably at 45-55%
I came from the pixel 4 and was also plagued by bad battery (worse than the 3 honestly)
The 7t is a nice compromise until Google gets their **** together and makes a phone that's actually worth the outrageous price tag.
Ufs 3.0
3300+ mah
Wide angle camera
If the pixel 5 doesn't have this I'll be buying the OnePlus 8t lol
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The 7t is a nice compromise until Google gets their **** together and makes a phone that's actually worth the outrageous price tag.
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I loved my Pixel 2XL but opted for the 7T over the 4XL. The camera on the Pixels is killer, especially considering it's using a 2016 sensor. Google's choices for hardware is a bit of a enigma lately .. the Nexus line used to be a budget friendly near-flagship phone with features designed to move Android forward (e.g. they were ahead of their time). The only reason it didn't sell like hotcakes from the killer price/value is the availability/marketing wasn't strong like other brands - more niche.
They fixed that with the Pixel line but now lag behind in other areas .. the fact their flagship doesn't even win the category they put the most effort in shows they're not really trying .. other manufacturers have moved on to newer sensors to compete (and surpass), yet Google is sticking with software tweaks gen after gen on the same sensor. You do that on budget phones, not flagships. I think Google could probably do killer work software wise using the 48mp (2018) sensor in the 7T with improved optics because of the ability to get more pixel information for their algorithms before downsizing to 12mp.
Their shift to compete against Apple / Samsung on the flagship side has led them to be in a gray area where the value/price is now flipped ... I wouldn't consider them a good value. They don't do enough to compete against the flagships, yet they're commanding flagship pricing (heck, the 4 still has the same camera sensor and RAM as the prior 2 gens). The 'A' variant seems to be the better value from them.
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To answer OP's Q .. in my tests, the OnePlus 7T camera holds up to my Pixel 2XL (I know, not the 4XL). It seems to lack some sharpness and vibrance in the color, but that can be fixed in software if I really need.
For battery life, you can tweak the system if rooted using apps like LSpeed .. I did this on my 2XL and got around 7.5hrs SOT (less after 2 years because if battery aging). Haven't used the 7T enough to know, but I'd assume it'll however around 6-7 with similar tweaks.
The one major downside about the 7T is that there's very little development life compared others.

Question Based on the Leaks, Would you upgrade to Samsung's Fold 5 or go with the Pixel Fold, or something else?

So we are starting to see leaks for the Fold 5, Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5 renders show off svelte design and new rumored hinge and for the Pixel Fold, Google Pixel Fold: Pricing, rumors, and everything you need to know
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So we are starting to see leaks for the Fold 5, Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 5 renders show off svelte design and new rumored hinge and for the Pixel Fold, Google Pixel Fold: Pricing, rumors, and everything you need to know
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It depends if one or both of them can be OEM unlocked.
FOLD 5 has no advantage over my FOLD 4...waiting for tri foldable FOLD 6 instead....
First generation Pixel Fold could be as buggy as a Rain Forest!
Not to mention the Pixel smaller screen sizes is a negative for me....
It depends on what Samsung give me for preorder and old device
$1000 trade-in for my ZFold3, that's why I upgraded to the 4, might do the same if similar for getting the 5. However, if the 6 is going to be a design overhaul, I might just wait.
From the leaks it's a pass for me. Only reason I'll change my Fold4 is if the Spen gets its internal housing. Otherwise I'm quite happy with it
Really depends on the trade in deals with Samsung if like last year in the UK they give £750 for the Fold 3 +£100 gift voucher so £850 for the fold 3 plus they give the note pack and the buds 2 pro free
Samsung speeds up development of tri-folding phone with new patent
Samsung is the pioneer of foldable smartphones. It is the only firm that has been consistently selling foldable smartphones globally ...
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This is what I am waiting for !!!!!!!
I got the Fold 4 because of the lack of other options, however this seems be changing now. I dislike the narrow candybar form factor of the Fold lineup. It is too hard to use as a normal phone and honestly, unfolded it's too large to be used as a phone. I have the Vivo V fold and the size of the outside screen is soooo much better, only problem is it's a China only release, same with the Oppo Find N,.
The S pen is a great little gadget however there ae alternatives for all other phones.
Now others are hitting the market it might be time to change brands....
I hope Samsung are watching this closely as it WILL impact their market share.
Update: Google announces Pixel Fold ahead of I/O
I am not seeing the inner screen crease like Samsung? Maybe they photo shopped it out.
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Update: Google announces Pixel Fold ahead of I/O
I am not seeing the inner screen crease like Samsung? Maybe they photo shopped it out.
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Have you noticed that there is almost a year difference between Fold 4 and Pixel Fold? Fold 5 will also have a new hinge.
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Update: Google announces Pixel Fold ahead of I/O
I am not seeing the inner screen crease like Samsung? Maybe they photo shopped it out.
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Again, both the Oppo Find N and Vivo V Fold have MINIMAL creases, so much so it is barely felt at all. These are 1st release devices and are so much easier to write on. It is a year on and still the crease, or lack thereof, surprises me every time I use it.
Samsung should be ashamed of the Grand Canyon crease they seem to keep giving us.
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Again, both the Oppo Find N and Vivo V Fold have MINIMAL creases, so much so it is barely felt at all. These are 1st release devices and are so much easier to write on. It is a year on and still the crease, or lack thereof, surprises me every time I use it.
Samsung should be ashamed of the Grand Canyon crease they seem to keep giving us.
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But those devices doesn't have water resistance. Samsung made the decision to add a IPX8 rating whereas the competition decided against it.
Whether a device is water resistant or not, isn't a deal breaker for me. I've never dropped a device in water, not saying it couldn't happen. If a device is kind of splash-proof, can live with that in case of rain. Is the Google foldable water resistant?
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Whether a device is water resistant or not, isn't a deal breaker for me. I've never dropped a device in water, not saying it couldn't happen. If a device is kind of splash-proof, can live with that in case of rain. Is the Google foldable water resistant?
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sticking to my fold 4 but just adding in my 2 cents.
still considered a rumour until the official specs come out but this website seems to indicate water resistance. if you'll scroll down you'll come across:
According to Blass’s leak, the Pixel Fold will be 5.5 inches tall, 3.1 inches wide, and 0.5 inches thick when folded. When unfolded, it will be 5.5 by 6.2 by 0.2 inches. The total weight will be 283 grams. The Pixel Fold will have IPX8 water resistance, USB-C 3.2 gen 2, and more.
website: https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/google-pixel-fold-price-release-date-specs-news-rumors/
which now opens another can of worms regarding the weight. fold 4's weight is 263g and supposedly the fold 5 will be even lighter.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-fold-launch/
Guess I'll have to see it in person somewhere next month and make up my mind.
IMHO, Samsung seems hesitant to step up their game in the foldable arena.
Pixel FOLD is no competition for SAMSUNG Z FOLD series...the SPen alone gives SAMSUNG the win every time for me....just wait til the Z FOLD 6 tri foldable...that will be what I upgrade from the Z FOLD 4 to next..Z FOLD 5 has no advantage over the Fold 4...
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Z FOLD 5 has no advantage over the Fold 4...
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How do you know if 5 hasn't released yet?
My 2 cents on Samsung's foldables. I would say I've been intrigued looking at the foldables by Xiaomi, Huewei, Otto, Google and Vivo.....they look nice, even the crease looks less visible than Samsung's, but they miss on some things, I forget which one, but doesn't have 5G, another can't do MMS, may or may not be water resistant, camera not as good, etc. Although Samsung could get better and will, no need to jump ship as yet. I was looking hard into the Vivo X Fold2 and thought about getting it, but takes some tweaks and other things to try and get it to work well. I will probably keep my ZFold4 until the 6.

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