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Hi, everyone.
I am fairly new on the forum. I keep reading about "rooting" your phone. I have a Samsung Galaxy SII T989 and my questions are:
1. What is "phone rooting" ?
2. What are the advantages of having your phone "rooted" ?
Thank you.
I'm *hoping* this is a joke, but if it isn't, here's a good place to start:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+root+your+phone
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I'm *hoping* this is a job, but if it isn't, here's a good place to start:
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Wow that's pretty awesome, would have never thought about that ha ha ha
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Yes... It is a job to think: Why would you risk to unstable your phone by "root" it?
I see that:
- people are removing the wrong apps that negatively affect their phones (e.q. a ccounts and sync).
- people's phone are missing other thinks they used to like (bars, the small flashing blue light when you scroll to the top and to the bottom of the screen).
- the pletoria of apps for rooted phone are not that great...
- the advantage you get is that you only free up some internal space?
I have no issues with my phone rooted. I am on a stock T-Mobile ROM and froze all the bloatware. You can get rids of ads in apps when rooted which is pretty damn convenient for me. Do research on what is safe to freeze and you wont have any problems. Freezing is more safe than uninstalling...
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The reason is you then have 100% control over your system. If you know what you're doing, having root can be a very powerful tool. You can greatly speed up the phone, free up ram, theme things, it gives you total control.
Now this is a double edged sword too. All the horror stories you're hearing about root are by people who don't have the faintest idea what they're doing and are breaking things.
Think of it in terms of computers. On linux, having root is, well, having root. You have full access to the system. On windows, (vista and above mainly) it's like having an administrator account with UAC turned off. In the right hands, this is very very nice. In the wrong hands, it can cause problems.
If you don't see the benefit of rooting, then I'd highly suggest you do not do so. These devices are not windows boxes where you screw up and "oh well, guess it's time to bust out the windows cd and do a re-install. I'd also suggest perhaps looking through the market at things that require root, and the benefits they give you. (Titanium backup, for instance. Or tethering when your provider doesn't want you to.)
Sui Generis said:
Yes... It is a job to think: Why would you risk to unstable your phone by "root" it?
I see that:
- people are removing the wrong apps that negatively affect their phones (e.q. a ccounts and sync).
- people's phone are missing other thinks they used to like (bars, the small flashing blue light when you scroll to the top and to the bottom of the screen).
- the pletoria of apps for rooted phone are not that great...
- the advantage you get is that you only free up some internal space?
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Honestly if you don't want to root your phone do not root it. A lot of the problems you mention stem from people attempting to root and don't know what they are really doing. I am one of those people who are strictly against one click root methods. Because you literally don't need to read anything to understand what exactly are you doing.
If you know what you can do with a rooted phone things like
-Better battery life by manipulating the cpu cycles and governors.
-Change the entire look of the phone to look as if it a totally different os.
-Better performance overall of your phone
-Overall better experience than what the carrier give you.
I could name endless things about why rooting is better than what the stock gives you.
A lot of people I hear just say go to xda and root your phone. Which is very ignorant. Not everyone should root. If your phone is doing what it needs to do then leave it alone. My friends who have android phones ask me to root for them i tell them no root it themselves. With one click methods people make an xda account and blame the developer saying their rom sucks and is bad battery life where as the problems stem most of the time the user side.
I agree. I haven't rooted my SGS2 yet because the stock ROM, for me, seems to be serving its purpose very well. All my benchmark scores are within standard deviation of the OC kernels and now we've got wifi calling. I use ADW for a new UI and that suits me just fine. Yes, ICS will come from CM long before it does from the carriers, but I'm ok with that - even though I'll probably end up rooting and installing ICS once it's stable. My previous Android phones were rooted within days of purchase, and yes I would like to remove bloat, but with all the internal storage and my 32gb sd card I think I'll be a happy camper. It would be nice to know carrier IQ was gone, though...
rooting = control
no root = no control over settings
they don't let you root by default to prevent noobs from damaging their phone by changing some settings they should have not touched
when i rooted my phone and got beastmod 4.0 with flaux kernal my battery life increased like 50x than stock x.x
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I personally don't think I'll be rooting (at least not while the phone's still new). I'm happy with the level of customization on the stock.
One question though. So basically, when rooted, you are "logged in" to your phone as root user? Are there any security risks with this?
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Honestly if you don't want to root your phone do not root it. A lot of the problems you mention stem from people attempting to root and don't know what they are really doing. I am one of those people who are strictly against one click root methods. Because you literally don't need to read anything to understand what exactly are you doing.
If you know what you can do with a rooted phone things like
-Better battery life by manipulating the cpu cycles and governors.
-Change the entire look of the phone to look as if it a totally different os.
-Better performance overall of your phone
-Overall better experience than what the carrier give you.
I could name endless things about why rooting is better than what the stock gives you.
A lot of people I hear just say go to xda and root your phone. Which is very ignorant. Not everyone should root. If your phone is doing what it needs to do then leave it alone. My friends who have android phones ask me to root for them i tell them no root it themselves. With one click methods people make an xda account and blame the developer saying their rom sucks and is bad battery life where as the problems stem most of the time the user side.
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Agree entirely, back on the ns forums I was constantly advising people against one click.
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eMace said:
I personally don't think I'll be rooting (at least not while the phone's still new). I'm happy with the level of customization on the stock.
One question though. So basically, when rooted, you are "logged in" to your phone as root user? Are there any security risks with this?
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Only if you use bad apps. Its just like on any other os: if you're the administrator you have to be twice as careful wity what you install
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Rooting your phone is like getting under the hood of your car.
If you have never worked on a car, it would not be wise to just start pulling out plugs/wires, moving things around and installing enhancements as you would probably ruin your car and end up paying a mechanic to fix it.
However, if you take the time to read up on any changes before you make them, then you could end up with a turbo-boosted hot rod with a custom Chrome setup that not only looks better but performs like a champ.
www.youtube.com/themrroxtar noob tutorials and rom reviews. Check it out. Plus everyone can find how to win a free Hercules at the end of this month!
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for me, rooting is mainly removing bloatware.
just like when you buy a new laptop, they install a lot of crap and it slow your computer down.
rooting can remove bloatware and also give you more speed, but you might lose the upgrading from the OTA(official t mobile update) and need to check update in here.
but if you are ok with the performance that you can on your phone now, stay with it.
It's all about the flash (yeah, bahby!) The custom ROM's can't be flashed without root: Forget about deleting/freezing unwanted applications and find a developers ROM you like - experiment a bit and have some fun with the phone.
As well, applications that require root - quick boot and appinstaller, are a must for me, making root mandatory for my phoning pleasure.
I had an HD2 before, and while there's greater variety in the ROM's, set-up to root is a biach on the HTC devices, so we can thank our lucky stars Samsung makes this easier (prolly not on purpose, though )
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www.youtube.com/themrroxtar noob tutorials and rom reviews. Check it out. Plus everyone can find how to win a free Hercules at the end of this month!
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What's up man...wheelerhomes from YouTube.
Enjoying my rooted sg2! Have to agree with some comments ...understand what you're doing or don't do it. I learned just enough to be dangerous! But am picking up more and more as I read. I do wish the tutorials went a little more into WHY you're doing this or that vs just saying do this. It confusing to grasp what rooting is but when start downloading Odin, loading superuser, clockwork mod recovery, titanium, etc its REALLY overwhelming not knowing what each step does.
I certainly did not need to root. But like all these phones, it started out nice and snappy and within a week it was glitching like my old vibrant ...all kinds of stupid crap running in the background. Rooting was stressful because I didn't know exactly why I was doing these different steps!! Once I did it I was stoked at how fast my phone was. Just flashed wifi stock rom today that whitehawkx put up and I'm already missing my Juggernaut! But wifi calling/texting is slick for my location!
OK,
- better battery life can serve me better...
- being able to install other apps (such call recorder) can also be beneficial...
The problem is that I come from the Windows side rather than the Linux or Apple so I do not excel into this so I am afraid not to brick the phone.
Having said that, it would be VERY, VERY, VERY nice of you (or everyone else with a very rooted stable phone) to post clear and "for dummies" instructions on how to:
1. root your phone
2. install customed rom (beastmod, juggernaut or odin, etc - upon your recommendation).
Many thanks in advance !
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I personally don't think I'll be rooting (at least not while the phone's still new).
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Installed clockwork mod recovery on the first boot while the phone was still in the plastic wrap. Rooted via superoneclick on the 2nd boot ONLY because you have to reboot after flashing clockwork mod.
The process is easy if you read the instructions.
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Well i recently recieved an upgrade with my provider and I opted for the M9. This is because for the last 4 years ive had samsung and although I havent a bad word to say for them, I just fancied a change. So here I am.
Quite a difference in the way you can obtain certain things like unlocking, rooting etc. To be honest, though it was a bit worrying at first, I soon managed to get things done and It sort of makes you feel like you're more involved with your phone. Rather than just letting a .zip do all the work or a full firmware file through odin do the business.
Ive only had it 2 days and managed to root, unlock and s-off, Flashed a new firmware and rom and very happy with it. I have noticed despite the camera being a higher pixel count it isnt quite as sharp as the samsung camera, still good though. The front camera is definately better.
Having only had it 2 days though i cant really comment on performance etc etc. I need it longer but i'm relatively happy with how its going.
I do have a couple of concerns. 1 being the temperature it reaches when flashing etc.My samsung used to feel very warm but obviously its more noticable with the HTC due to it being all metal and I guess thats good as it sucks all the heat into the shell and away from the cpu's.
Anyway, this was just to say hi, and that I hope to continue to enjoy my htc experience, its definately come on a lot since my last HTC many years ago (Wildfire S).
Any tips / tricks / must haves that I should know about?
Thanks and HI! =)
tomorio said:
Well i recently recieved an upgrade with my provider and I opted for the M9. This is because for the last 4 years ive had samsung and although I havent a bad word to say for them, I just fancied a change. So here I am.
Quite a difference in the way you can obtain certain things like unlocking, rooting etc. To be honest, though it was a bit worrying at first, I soon managed to get things done and It sort of makes you feel like you're more involved with your phone. Rather than just letting a .zip do all the work or a full firmware file through odin do the business.
Ive only had it 2 days and managed to root, unlock and s-off, Flashed a new firmware and rom and very happy with it. I have noticed despite the camera being a higher pixel count it isnt quite as sharp as the samsung camera, still good though. The front camera is definately better.
Having only had it 2 days though i cant really comment on performance etc etc. I need it longer but i'm relatively happy with how its going.
I do have a couple of concerns. 1 being the temperature it reaches when flashing etc.My samsung used to feel very warm but obviously its more noticable with the HTC due to it being all metal and I guess thats good as it sucks all the heat into the shell and away from the cpu's.
Anyway, this was just to say hi, and that I hope to continue to enjoy my htc experience, its definately come on a lot since my last HTC many years ago (Wildfire S).
Any tips / tricks / must haves that I should know about?
Thanks and HI! =)
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Hello. Welcome. I hope you enjoy your M9 experience.
Yeah, they heat up a little bit when flashing, but I think you're assumption on the metal body is correct.
I think the camera is not awesome in lower light situations. outside, it's fantastic. There's a thread on the camera in this forum you should check out, but some people who have used both the S6 and M9 say that the S6 is better in low light situations, but the M9 is better outside. You can probably get some tips in that that thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/pictures-m9-t3044267). A lot of people like shooting in manual mode with this phone and can produce some pretty nice results.
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Hello. Welcome. I hope you enjoy your M9 experience.
Yeah, they heat up a little bit when flashing, but I think you're assumption on the metal body is correct.
I think the camera is not awesome in lower light situations. outside, it's fantastic. There's a thread on the camera in this forum you should check out, but some people who have used both the S6 and M9 say that the S6 is better in low light situations, but the M9 is better outside. You can probably get some tips in that that thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/pictures-m9-t3044267). A lot of people like shooting in manual mode with this phone and can produce some pretty nice results.
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Excellent thank you. I'll take a look and see if I can get any tips for improving my pictures. When I was in store chosing my next phone they did mention that it isn't the best in low light, probably due to the smaller aperture but I use take most of my pictures outside or in decent lighting anyway so I suppose it's not an issue as such. I'll definately have a look at that thread though and see if using manual mode will help me out more.
Thanks.
edit - I do have a quick question about firmwares. I have just flashed the 1.40.401.x but also noticed their are some 2.xx.xx something. Which are newer and why the huge difference? lol sorry to ask what is probably a very nooby question.
tomorio said:
Excellent thank you. I'll take a look and see if I can get any tips for improving my pictures. When I was in store chosing my next phone they did mention that it isn't the best in low light, probably due to the smaller aperture but I use take most of my pictures outside or in decent lighting anyway so I suppose it's not an issue as such. I'll definately have a look at that thread though and see if using manual mode will help me out more.
Thanks.
edit - I do have a quick question about firmwares. I have just flashed the 1.40.401.x but also noticed their are some 2.xx.xx something. Which are newer and why the huge difference? lol sorry to ask what is probably a very nooby question.
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I find it takes pretty decent still life photos in low light, but not great snapshots of people/pets (things that move). I think on auto, the camera isn't aggressive enough in bumping ISO, so it has to use too slow a shutter speed to completely stop movement.
I think 1.40 was kind of a temporary release to quickly address some issues in 1.32 (camera and CPU management mostly)...I don't think it was ever officially released in the US. But 1.40 has issue of it's own, mainly that charging the phone can be extremely slow at times. I don't know how HTC comes up with firmware numbering, but I would guess that part of the big number jump has to do with the fact that 1.xx firmware was for Android 5.0.2 while the 2.7 firmware runs on Android 5.1. I flashed the 2.7 firmware last night and the 1.40 base rom that I use works fine with it so far...I can't say with certainty that your ROM will work with it though. FYI, I'm on InsertCoin.
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I find it takes pretty decent still life photos in low light, but not great snapshots of people/pets (things that move). I think on auto, the camera isn't aggressive enough in bumping ISO, so it has to use too slow a shutter speed to completely stop movement.
I think 1.40 was kind of a temporary release to quickly address some issues in 1.32 (camera and CPU management mostly)...I don't think it was ever officially released in the US. But 1.40 has issue of it's own, mainly that charging the phone can be extremely slow at times. I don't know how HTC comes up with firmware numbering, but I would guess that part of the big number jump has to do with the fact that 1.xx firmware was for Android 5.0.2 while the 2.7 firmware runs on Android 5.1. I flashed the 2.7 firmware last night and the 1.40 base rom that I use works fine with it so far...I can't say with certainty that your ROM will work with it though. FYI, I'm on InsertCoin.
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Ah I see. I just noticed that most of the roms out at the moment recommend using the 1.40 firmware which is why I flashed that one. I'm currently using Viper which seems good so far, only had it a day. As I was new to everything I thought it best to stick with what is suggested as unlike with my Galaxy s4 the flashing of firmwares and roms seems quite specific. I had noticed it is quite a slow charge process, but I tend to charge overnight if I can and make the phone last the full day so it's not that much of a downer, unless i've had a lot of usage and need a "quick boost" >< then its not so great lol
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Ah I see. I just noticed that most of the roms out at the moment recommend using the 1.40 firmware which is why I flashed that one. I'm currently using Viper which seems good so far, only had it a day. As I was new to everything I thought it best to stick with what is suggested as unlike with my Galaxy s4 the flashing of firmwares and roms seems quite specific. I had noticed it is quite a slow charge process, but I tend to charge overnight if I can and make the phone last the full day so it's not that much of a downer, unless i've had a lot of usage and need a "quick boost" >< then its not so great lol
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Many people have reported that rebooting temporarily fixes the slow charge issue.
MaximusHD is the only rom that uses the new firmware currently. I bet others will be updating soon. The Viper guys have been chatting about Viper 3.0 being released soon and I assume it will be 5.1 based.
Thats good. I'll keep checking any updates and see what happens.
I can't wait for a few more roms to be up and about. I'm used to the countless available for the S4 and forget that device is 2 years old now so there was plenty of time to get things going. I shall just have to be patient.
Thanks for all the help mate.
tomorio said:
Thats good. I'll keep checking any updates and see what happens.
I can't wait for a few more roms to be up and about. I'm used to the countless available for the S4 and forget that device is 2 years old now so there was plenty of time to get things going. I shall just have to be patient.
Thanks for all the help mate.
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Not a problem. Enjoy the device.
Not to hijack your thread tomorio, but how did you decide on which phone? I have the Galaxy S5 now, but I'm torn between HTC M8, M9, or LG G4. Pros and cons to all. My biggest thing is ease of root as I have a couple of frequent use apps that require it. Thanks in advance for any tips on how you decided!
~Vol
Vol4Ever said:
Not to hijack your thread tomorio, but how did you decide on which phone? I have the Galaxy S5 now, but I'm torn between HTC M8, M9, or LG G4. Pros and cons to all. My biggest thing is ease of root as I have a couple of frequent use apps that require it. Thanks in advance for any tips on how you decided!
~Vol
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Hijack away my friend.
I too was torn but between the S6, LG G4 and htc m9. I was leaning away from the S6 as I really fancied a change, however I think it will always have more options available to it (for custom roms etc) due to the larger fan base and it is much simpler to get to grips with for rooting etc.
the G4 my Partner already has and something about it when I used it I just didn't enjoy, and its nowhere near as pretty as the M9 lol. Try one out if you can just to see for yourself. Unfortunately I have no more experience of it than having a little play of her phone so unsure on the rooting processes etc but imagine it to be similar to the Samsung way.
The HTC M9 was a tough choice. Especially when I looked at how rooting etc is done (this is one of the first things i check with phones flash-a-holic you see lol). Anyway, once i'd read over all the advice given in this forum, the how to's etc and got a small amount of knowledge of the process of rooting using fastboot etc i pushed myself to make the choice. As far as user friendly goes, I think for simpler flashing the Sammy will always win again, as it's processes are far simpler (flashing via odin etc and all the files being ready to flash straight off the bat). However if you're keen for a change then I would recommend the M9. I've only had it a few days really but already i'm glad I did.
Just be sure to look through all the ways of rooting so that you get a better understanding of how its done. I think once the initial unlocking bootloader, rooting and flashing custom recovery is done it;s pretty simple after that. I've got to grips with it already.
One of the main benefits I found with the sammy phones was I was never worried about bricking because there were many different ways to get it back up and running. I dont know how that fares with the M9 but as long as you follow the instructions step by step and have backups available you should be ok.
Sorry for the wall of text, if you need anything else let me know.
Hope that helps.
- edit- also i may have touched on it in a previous post, but i think as far as customizing your phone goes and making it your own, I feel that HTC as a company are much more in tune with "our world" of people who like to change the stock features and put their own touch on things.
Walls of text don't bother me. I'd rather have too much information than not enough. It's going to be the M9 if we can work out the AT&T issues I mentioned in my other thread. I went to the store last night expecting a simple transaction like the bazillion other phone upgrades I've done over the years. Walked out steaming, to say the least. The worst part was the lady helping me majorly projected a "couldn't care less" attitude that is a major pet peeve of mine!
There's really nothing that I find that I need to root the 5x for besides maybe improved camera or battery life if a ROM exists that would even do that. I read somewhere that there are issues with rooting of 5x so curious what the pros and cons are for this particular phone. Is it even necessary? Even Xposed is not quite dialed in enough and not sure if I even need those modules after all the improvements and marshmallow. What do you think?
AdAway
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I don't get ads or at least don't notice them. That can't be that big of a deal to root the 5x now can it?
Don't root then. Who cares?
If you have to ask you shouldn't. Simple as that.
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If you have to ask you shouldn't. Simple as that.
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No not that simple. I simply want to know why people do it. I've rooted all other phones I've had, but not this one yet. Just curious what the draw to root the 5x would specifically be.
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No not that simple. I simply want to know why people do it. I've rooted all other phones I've had, but not this one yet. Just curious what the draw to root the 5x would specifically be.
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People root for the same reasons you used to root. If you don't care about those things anymore, don't root. It is that simple.
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I just rooted to remove the Google bloat, I was thinking about not doing it at all, comparing the benefits
Betterbatterystats to know what's going on
Custom roms, I like the convenience that roms offer with options,
Volume to skip tracks, helps with driving,
Recents button to last app, helps with banking and emails,
Fast unlock with pin, and menu button on navi bar,
Quick tiles, I like then small icons in one row,
Remove orangeness in battery saver,
Make doze start after 3mins instead of 30 mins,
Restoring apps and settings from nexus 5 took less than an hour, very little downtime.
Catalyst rom
And kernel improvements
I see what op means, I rooted all my droids, and its a habbit, now it's at a point where you can get by with stock,
I root for xposed which allows me to have my back button always on the right side, volume key long-press to skip tracks ( but doesnt matter to my iems since the headphone out is quite bad), greenify and adaway.
Why did you root your previous phones? Are these reasons found in the 5x i.e ads, pure stock android, xposed customizations?
Adaway and Cerberus
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alwaysbelieve1 said:
I don't get ads or at least don't notice them. That can't be that big of a deal to root the 5x now can it?
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i guess good for you if you don't notice any ads. when i switched to the 5X and had to go a week without root/adaway i was shocked by the amount of ads i was confronted with and how much they actually influenced the my experience and the performance of the phone. when i finally got root/adaway to work especially browsing was way more smooth and enjoyable. also not having to worry about accidentally touching one of those ads in certain apps while never planning to do so anyway is a relief to me.
there are little things, simple tasks like checking the weather forecast, which i want to do as quickly as possible. ads can potentially interrupt such tasks, when browsing it can even get as bad as lagging out the whole app/device, which just shouldn't happen (also i have better things to spend my data-limit on than ads that take up more space than the website itself).
for me adblocking is quite a big deal and hugely improves my experience with the device, which of course is subjective.
apart from that though, most of the issues i had with android and solved through rooting have mostly vanished. i still vividly remember replacing the battery indicator to show a numeric value on my original galaxy S1 back when FroYo came out. changing or even having quick settings at all was important to me as well. now with 6.0 and at least for the time being, stock android has that build in and i'm ok with the implementation.
the only apps using root on my devices are adaway, a file browser for good measure, and titanium backup. and that covers all my needs for now, but i wouldn't want to miss any of them as well.
This is my first Nexus that I haven't rooted OTB (had N4, N5, N6 still have N5 and both N7's). Still on stock so far on N5X. It does everything I need it to do and more in its stock form and its nice not having to troubleshoot issues because I'm running mods/kernels/roms.
I also must admit my time is scarce these days and I don't have the free time needed to tinker. Doesn't mean I won't though. I love the simple fact that I can mod easily...when the mood hits for me to tinker.
Maybe I'm just an old fart is part of it too...but I also believe that today's 6.0.1 is so good on its own there is much less reason to root vs the old days on ginger/honey/ice cream/etc...
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No not that simple. I simply want to know why people do it. I've rooted all other phones I've had, but not this one yet. Just curious what the draw to root the 5x would specifically be.
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Unlocking your bootloader, flashing twrp, and installing a custom ROM with root enabled by default is a far cry from locked down, stock, uprooted. I guess the magic of stock wore off.
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Viper4android
Or just having the ability to change maximum stock volumes.
This is the exact reason why there's so many people leaving XDA, because the OP has a legitimate question, and half of you don't answer and just say "well don't root then."
I've rooted every phone I've had and I'm going to soon with my N5x, but like the OP, there seem to be new parameters in place for rooting the 5x and 6p, such as the system-less root and that thing I heard where it wants the user to tap something on their phone while rooting to know they are going to void their warranty, plus whatever else is going on. I have to read more.
To answer the OP, I need CyanogenMod 13 so badly because the features are unbelievable. Adding the magnifying glass search icon and left/right toggles for scrolling through text is a must in the navigation bar at the bottom.
Also the advance and previous track option while holding up or down on the volume rocker was so useful.
Then there's titanium backup which needs no explanation of how great that is.
So if you are ready and willing to root your phone and void your warranty (but you can always un-root so this isn't a huge deal), there are so many more options available to you as you already know anyway. I like to wait a couple months to make sure my phone is not defective in any way just in case I have to use the warranty. Once I know it's in good working shape, I'll root when I get the time.
Enjoy.
Adaway, Camera Shutter noise off, kill all tasks in recent apps is why i rooted.
VOLTAGEROCK said:
This is the exact reason why there's so many people leaving XDA, because the OP has a legitimate question, and half of you don't answer and just say "well don't root then."
I've rooted every phone I've had and I'm going to soon with my N5x, but like the OP, there seem to be new parameters in place for rooting the 5x and 6p, such as the system-less root and that thing I heard where it wants the user to tap something on their phone while rooting to know they are going to void their warranty, plus whatever else is going on. I have to read more.
To answer the OP, I need CyanogenMod 13 so badly because the features are unbelievable. Adding the magnifying glass search icon and left/right toggles for scrolling through text is a must in the navigation bar at the bottom.
Also the advance and previous track option while holding up or down on the volume rocker was so useful.
Then there's titanium backup which needs no explanation of how great that is.
So if you are ready and willing to root your phone and void your warranty (but you can always un-root so this isn't a huge deal), there are so many more options available to you as you already know anyway. I like to wait a couple months to make sure my phone is not defective in any way just in case I have to use the warranty. Once I know it's in good working shape, I'll root when I get the time.
Enjoy.
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No one cares if people like the op leave. With stupid questions like this, most of us are glad. We only care when someone that actually contributes leaves. Usually that happens because of people like the op.
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Mountainfisher said:
Adaway, Camera Shutter noise off, kill all tasks in recent apps is why i rooted.
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How can I get the shutter sound disabled?
PiousInquisitor said:
No one cares if people like the op leave. With stupid questions like this, most of us are glad. We only care when someone that actually contributes leaves. Usually that happens because of people like the op.
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Thanks for your very informative message. You give confidence to so many people.
You apparently know everything, so why are you on this site to begin with?
I'm moving onto an LG V20 soon and reading up on acquiring root and other assorted things.
I stumbled across this interesting thread. It looks like LG has a root check on the V20 (first noticed on the T-Mobile version) that was slowing down performance and sucking battery for rooted users.
It made me wonder if the G3 has something similar.
Unfortunately, i lack a computer to actually check.
Can anyone read thru the initial post in my link and check their rooted G3 for similar?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/t-mobile-rooted-lgv20-rctd-root-t3661490
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I'm moving onto an LG V20 soon and reading up on acquiring root and other assorted things.
I stumbled across this interesting thread. It looks like LG has a root check on the V20 (first noticed on the T-Mobile version) that was slowing down performance and sucking battery for rooted users.
It made me wonder if the G3 has something similar.
Unfortunately, i lack a computer to actually check.
Can anyone read thru the initial post in my link and check their rooted G3 for similar?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/t-mobile-rooted-lgv20-rctd-root-t3661490
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yes the g3 had this. Content of the rctd file is identical. Didn't cause any performance issues that I'm aware of though
Any kernels where it was ripped out?
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Any kernels where it was ripped out?
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None that I'm aware of. Aside from aosp roms
Yeah, that's what i thought. When I've tried AOSP ROMs, I lost HDMI out thru the slimport and lost full functioning of Bluetooth mouse; features that are must have for me.
I'm hoping some Dev might strip it out of a stock kernel (i don't have a computer).
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Any kernels where it was ripped out?
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Braaainz said:
Yeah, that's what i thought. When I've tried AOSP ROMs, I lost HDMI out thru the slimport and lost full functioning of Bluetooth mouse; features that are must have for me.
I'm hoping some Dev might strip it out of a stock kernel (i don't have a computer).
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Out of curiosity, I may look into that. I believe breaking it down and removing stuff is easier than building from scratch. Also, what was the last aosp ROM you tried. I have no way of testing those features but im on the latest linage and its pretty stable. They may have fixed it if you haven't tried in awhile. Also, why do you want it removed? I didn't think it really did anything and that's why devs haven't bothered to remove it.
EDIT: Broke down the 30g kernel and removed the line in init.lge.rc that started the rctd (root checker) service. Works as intended
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EDIT: Broke down the 30g kernel and removed the line in init.lge.rc that started the rctd (root checker) service. Should work but backup your boot image with twrp before you flash. I'm on linage and can't test whether or not it boots.
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Thanks. Before i saw your post though, i found a free xda app where someone has it set to strip the root check from LG Devices.
On my stock rooted marshmallow 30D, G3 851, it performed without a hitch.
Phone is more responsive, far more responsive... which frankly surprised me with a bit. Battery life has also dramatically improved. However, it's only been about an hour, so I'm wanting to wait a bit and see if it holds.
Here's a link to the app.
https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.zacharee1.rctdremoverforlg
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Okay! So last night i was streaming video thru Kodi and using my slimport to send to my TV. In the past, with a charger connected to my phone, my battery would discharge instead of charge (even tho slimport is supposed to use minimal battery).
After using the app, my phone charged doing those things like it was supposed to. Phone felt cooler(but that could be my imagination).
Phone is definitely faster. Keyboard is much more responsive, scrolling is improved also.
I should note that I've always had issues with heavy battery loss (i rooted immediately after getting the phone). I use a ZeroLemon battery, so it never was a huge issue, but still.
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Thanks. Before i saw your post though, i found a free xda app where someone has it set to strip the root check from LG Devices.
On my stock rooted marshmallow, G3 851, it performed without a hitch.
Phone is more responsive, far more responsive... which frankly surprised me with a bit. Battery life has also dramatically improved. However, it's only been about an hour, so I'm wanting to wait a bit and see if it holds.
Here's a link to the app.
https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.zacharee1.rctdremoverforlg
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That's cool. Def gonna bookmark that link for when I'm back on stock. Didn't think the root checker had that kind of effect. If they are really using the root checker to deny warranty, this will save a lot of people
Well, tried flashing CleanRom. Lost TWRP and root. PurpleDrake no longer works.
Argh. Any hints on rooting 30D?
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Well, tried flashing CleanRom. Lost TWRP and root. PurpleDrake no longer works.
Argh. Any hints on rooting 30D?
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kingroot is the only thing that roots 30d.
Hi all, I have recently switched from iPhone 11 to Pixel 6 Pro. I've not been with Android as main smartphone since years ago. Then, I've some questions:
- rooting my P6P I'll lost my warranty?
- rooting P6P will lose battery life and performances?
- I'll lose Google system update or some features of my phone?
I'm asking these questions because there are some interesting mods used to add more features to P6P but I hope root will not impact battery life/performance/system update and features. I sincerely don't remember anything of the modding, I left modding world since 2019 (date when I've abandoned my Xiaomi MI5, such a lovely phone).
Francesco.
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Hi all, I have recently switched from iPhone 11 to Pixel 6 Pro. I've not been with Android as main smartphone since years ago. Then, I've some questions:
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Hello! And welcome back to Android!
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- rooting my P6P I'll lost my warranty?
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You won't lose Google's warranty. They don't hold it against you if you root, unlike Samsung and some others. If you do need the warranty and if possible, then I would still put the phone back completely stock, but there have been countless individuals who have either accidentally bricked their phone or another root-related problem, and they had no trouble using the warranty.
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- rooting P6P will lose battery life and performances?
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No. If anything, the opposite, especially if you use one of the available custom kernels in this section (click on the red Development quick-filter at the top of the list of threads in this section). Some people have complained about the battery life on the P6P in general (not root related), but I haven't had any particular issues with my battery life - it might just depend on your specific usage.
^ This answer applies to every single phone, rooting or not.
I always treat my batteries gently, though. I only allow the battery to get down to 25%, I only charge it to 75%, I never, ever quick charge it, and I never charge it overnight.
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- I'll lose Google system update or some features of my phone?
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You won't be able to take the OTA that would normally be automatically delivered to your phone, but you just manually update. Similar to the red Development quick-filter, click the yellow How To Guide quick-filter and you'll find several How To's regarding updating.
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I'm asking these questions because there are some interesting mods used to add more features to P6P but I hope root will not impact battery life/performance/system update and features. I sincerely don't remember anything of the modding, I left modding world since 2019 (date when I've abandoned my Xiaomi MI5, such a lovely phone).
Francesco.
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I had to get reminded about what things were like, too. When I had my Pixel 1 up until 2020, at some point I stopped rooting mine just because it worked so closely to how I wanted it to already, and I wasn't as active here for several years.
Francesco0301 said:
- rooting my P6P I'll lost my warranty?
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No, however they won't provide software support on software they're not in control of.
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- rooting P6P will lose battery life and performances?
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No. Root access will have ZERO impact on battery life or performance, however, you can DO stuff with root that can impact battery life, both increase or decrease.
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- I'll lose Google system update or some features of my phone?
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Don't know, I don't use google. Swap to GrapheneOS.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Hello! And welcome back to Android!
You won't lose Google's warranty. They don't hold it against you if you root, unlike Samsung and some others. If you do need the warranty and if possible, then I would still put the phone back completely stock, but there have been countless individuals who have either accidentally bricked their phone or another root-related problem, and they had no trouble using the warranty.
No. If anything, the opposite, especially if you use one of the available custom kernels in this section (click on the red Development quick-filter at the top of the list of threads in this section). Some people have complained about the battery life on the P6P in general (not root related), but I haven't had any particular issues with my battery life - it might just depend on your specific usage.
^ This answer applies to every single phone, rooting or not.
I always treat my batteries gently, though. I only allow the battery to get down to 25%, I only charge it to 75%, I never, ever quick charge it, and I never charge it overnight.
You won't be able to take the OTA that would normally be automatically delivered to your phone, but you just manually update. Similar to the red Development quick-filter, click the yellow How To Guide quick-filter and you'll find several How To's regarding updating.
I had to get reminded about what things were like, too. When I had my Pixel 1 up until 2020, at some point I stopped rooting mine just because it worked so closely to how I wanted it to already, and I wasn't as active here for several years.
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Many thanks for all the replies, you cleared me all the points very well!
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No, however they won't provide software support on software they're not in control of.
No. Root access will have ZERO impact on battery life or performance, however, you can DO stuff with root that can impact battery life, both increase or decrease.
Don't know, I don't use google. Swap to GrapheneOS.
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Also thanks to you!