Hi all, I have recently switched from iPhone 11 to Pixel 6 Pro. I've not been with Android as main smartphone since years ago. Then, I've some questions:
- rooting my P6P I'll lost my warranty?
- rooting P6P will lose battery life and performances?
- I'll lose Google system update or some features of my phone?
I'm asking these questions because there are some interesting mods used to add more features to P6P but I hope root will not impact battery life/performance/system update and features. I sincerely don't remember anything of the modding, I left modding world since 2019 (date when I've abandoned my Xiaomi MI5, such a lovely phone).
Francesco.
Francesco0301 said:
Hi all, I have recently switched from iPhone 11 to Pixel 6 Pro. I've not been with Android as main smartphone since years ago. Then, I've some questions:
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Hello! And welcome back to Android!
Francesco0301 said:
- rooting my P6P I'll lost my warranty?
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You won't lose Google's warranty. They don't hold it against you if you root, unlike Samsung and some others. If you do need the warranty and if possible, then I would still put the phone back completely stock, but there have been countless individuals who have either accidentally bricked their phone or another root-related problem, and they had no trouble using the warranty.
Francesco0301 said:
- rooting P6P will lose battery life and performances?
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No. If anything, the opposite, especially if you use one of the available custom kernels in this section (click on the red Development quick-filter at the top of the list of threads in this section). Some people have complained about the battery life on the P6P in general (not root related), but I haven't had any particular issues with my battery life - it might just depend on your specific usage.
^ This answer applies to every single phone, rooting or not.
I always treat my batteries gently, though. I only allow the battery to get down to 25%, I only charge it to 75%, I never, ever quick charge it, and I never charge it overnight.
Francesco0301 said:
- I'll lose Google system update or some features of my phone?
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You won't be able to take the OTA that would normally be automatically delivered to your phone, but you just manually update. Similar to the red Development quick-filter, click the yellow How To Guide quick-filter and you'll find several How To's regarding updating.
Francesco0301 said:
I'm asking these questions because there are some interesting mods used to add more features to P6P but I hope root will not impact battery life/performance/system update and features. I sincerely don't remember anything of the modding, I left modding world since 2019 (date when I've abandoned my Xiaomi MI5, such a lovely phone).
Francesco.
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I had to get reminded about what things were like, too. When I had my Pixel 1 up until 2020, at some point I stopped rooting mine just because it worked so closely to how I wanted it to already, and I wasn't as active here for several years.
Francesco0301 said:
- rooting my P6P I'll lost my warranty?
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No, however they won't provide software support on software they're not in control of.
Francesco0301 said:
- rooting P6P will lose battery life and performances?
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No. Root access will have ZERO impact on battery life or performance, however, you can DO stuff with root that can impact battery life, both increase or decrease.
Francesco0301 said:
- I'll lose Google system update or some features of my phone?
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Don't know, I don't use google. Swap to GrapheneOS.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Hello! And welcome back to Android!
You won't lose Google's warranty. They don't hold it against you if you root, unlike Samsung and some others. If you do need the warranty and if possible, then I would still put the phone back completely stock, but there have been countless individuals who have either accidentally bricked their phone or another root-related problem, and they had no trouble using the warranty.
No. If anything, the opposite, especially if you use one of the available custom kernels in this section (click on the red Development quick-filter at the top of the list of threads in this section). Some people have complained about the battery life on the P6P in general (not root related), but I haven't had any particular issues with my battery life - it might just depend on your specific usage.
^ This answer applies to every single phone, rooting or not.
I always treat my batteries gently, though. I only allow the battery to get down to 25%, I only charge it to 75%, I never, ever quick charge it, and I never charge it overnight.
You won't be able to take the OTA that would normally be automatically delivered to your phone, but you just manually update. Similar to the red Development quick-filter, click the yellow How To Guide quick-filter and you'll find several How To's regarding updating.
I had to get reminded about what things were like, too. When I had my Pixel 1 up until 2020, at some point I stopped rooting mine just because it worked so closely to how I wanted it to already, and I wasn't as active here for several years.
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Many thanks for all the replies, you cleared me all the points very well!
96carboard said:
No, however they won't provide software support on software they're not in control of.
No. Root access will have ZERO impact on battery life or performance, however, you can DO stuff with root that can impact battery life, both increase or decrease.
Don't know, I don't use google. Swap to GrapheneOS.
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Also thanks to you!
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Hello,
The battery life of my Z1 compact is very low. This only started the last month or so.
Are there things I can do to improve it?
I have been thinking of putting another rom on it, but not used to this anymore. A few years ago I did a lot (with my HTC Hero), but at the moment I don't have time to do this regularly (read: I was single on those days ). I can remember that there was an option in the recovery to whipe the battery stats, so maybe this can help me.
Then, is there a light yet stable rom out there?
Maybe you can give me also some guides on how to start with this: rooting, replacing recovery image and flashing a custom Rom.
Anyways thanks for your help.
Sorry if I made some mistakes, English is not my native language.
Bart.
This additional info can maybe useful:
Currently I am on Android 5.1.1 Build 14.6.A.0.368 ...
Most people have noticed that battery life on LP is generally a little worse than on KK, but usually stock rom battery life is pretty good, so if it's just getting worse suddenly, you might want to try an update, (.368 is not the newest fw), or maybe some changes you made are draIning the battery, or maybe the battery is old and needs to be replaced. Most custom roms are fine as far as battery drain goes, but most are not better than stock, so probably not a solution to the issue. Have you been using any battery - saving options, (stamina, Greenify, etc.)?
Are you using Pocket (readitlater)?
The new version of the app sucks alot of battery... =(
l3art1 said:
Hello,
The battery life of my Z1 compact is very low. This only started the last month or so.
Are there things I can do to improve it?
I have been thinking of putting another rom on it, but not used to this anymore. A few years ago I did a lot (with my HTC Hero), but at the moment I don't have time to do this regularly (read: I was single on those days ). I can remember that there was an option in the recovery to whipe the battery stats, so maybe this can help me.
Then, is there a light yet stable rom out there?
Maybe you can give me also some guides on how to start with this: rooting, replacing recovery image and flashing a custom Rom.
Anyways thanks for your help.
Sorry if I made some mistakes, English is not my native language.
Bart.
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Basically, you need to replace the battery.
levone1 said:
Most people have noticed that battery life on LP is generally a little worse than on KK, but usually stock rom battery life is pretty good, so if it's just getting worse suddenly, you might want to try an update, (.368 is not the newest fw),
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I have seen that there's a newer update (14.6.A.1.236). The problem with this is, when I try the update, the phone says there's no update for the phone. Is there a way to force the update?
alex_hk90 said:
Basically, you need to replace the battery.
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I have been looking and found some local repair center, which can do it.
While it is still under waranty, I don't want to send it to Sony, as I expect to lose the phone for more than 3 weeks???
Anyways, big thanks for all your replies!
l3art1 said:
I have been looking and found some local repair center, which can do it.
While it is still under waranty, I don't want to send it to Sony, as I expect to lose the phone for more than 3 weeks???
Anyways, big thanks for all your replies!
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I found it pretty easy to replace the battery myself, but that will void the warranty so you might not want to do that if there is still significant time left to run on the warranty.
alex_hk90 said:
I found it pretty easy to replace the battery myself, but that will void the warranty so you might not want to do that if there is still significant time left to run on the warranty.
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Is there some good description on how to do it yourself? Because I have no clue on how to even start with it?
l3art1 said:
Is there some good description on how to do it yourself? Because I have no clue on how to even start with it?
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I'm pretty sure there are instructions in that thread, but otherwise there are various videos such as this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXemmPyIzUI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...l/best-stable-rom-battery-life-daily-t3367431
This is how i get most juice out of this xperia. 2 years old battery shouldn't have degraded more than 10%
I should have posted this. I have found some useful info about changing the battery (mainly youtube), and I already ordered a new battery and adhesive for the back cover.
Another question I posted earlier: is there a way to force update to version .1.236
l3art1 said:
I should have posted this. I have found some useful info about changing the battery (mainly youtube), and I already ordered a new battery and adhesive for the back cover.
Another question I posted earlier: is there a way to force update to version .1.236
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If BL is locked, ota should work. You can always use Flashtool/ Xperifirm...
Ok, " there's a disturbance in the force" :silly: so I am new to the world of phone hacks, tips, tricks, and repairs. I am pretty good with PC's and Laptops but phones are a new venture. I currently own a Galaxy Note 4 from AT&T. It is mine I have full admin access to all features etc... It has never been rooted or switched roms. I had a note 4 about 2 years back and noticed the battery started dying very quickly. I thought it was just the batteries time to go. So I just upgraded and got rid of it. After feeling nostalgic, I got another one and sure as rain, it was draining fast. I bought another battery even bigger Mah. and still fast drain. My father who works for AT&T advised me that there was a patch or update secretly sent out by Samsung that causes this problem due to their exploding battery issue to avoid any more law suits. My father also informed me that if I brought my firmware back to KIT-KAT 4.4.2 and disabled ATT or Samsung updates that this will restore the batteries longevity. I need to know how to do this. I have looked on XDA for answers but I find only parts and they seem unclear or incomplete for what I am trying to do. Is there a way to do this? if so how? please understand I am no phone guru. but if the instructions are clear to follow I can most certainly get this done. I'd like to thank everyone who has read this, and special thanks in advance to the person able to provide the information I need.
Willcruz82 said:
Ok, " there's a disturbance in the force" :silly: so I am new to the world of phone hacks, tips, tricks, and repairs. I am pretty good with PC's and Laptops but phones are a new venture. I currently own a Galaxy Note 4 from AT&T. It is mine I have full admin access to all features etc... It has never been rooted or switched roms. I had a note 4 about 2 years back and noticed the battery started dying very quickly. I thought it was just the batteries time to go. So I just upgraded and got rid of it. After feeling nostalgic, I got another one and sure as rain, it was draining fast. I bought another battery even bigger Mah. and still fast drain. My father who works for AT&T advised me that there was a patch or update secretly sent out by Samsung that causes this problem due to their exploding battery issue to avoid any more law suits. My father also informed me that if I brought my firmware back to KIT-KAT 4.4.2 and disabled ATT or Samsung updates that this will restore the batteries longevity. I need to know how to do this. I have looked on XDA for answers but I find only parts and they seem unclear or incomplete for what I am trying to do. Is there a way to do this? if so how? please understand I am no phone guru. but if the instructions are clear to follow I can most certainly get this done. I'd like to thank everyone who has read this, and special thanks in advance to the person able to provide the information I need.
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Have you checked to see if there apps that are draining your batteries more than the others?
Also, since your father works for ATT, would there be a chance to ask for the bootloader unlock for the N910A? That way, we can use custom ROMs and kernels which might provide us with the solution for lengthening the battery life and improving the performance of our device!
Thank you for the reply. I got this bone stock. I have added no extra apps onto it. I have even removed and or shut off apps that I will not be using. I have also dimmed the display, etc... as far as unlocking the bootloader info. The only information he was able to pull up is the newest Droid version. He doesn't have access to anything else their systems for employees are basically hyperlinks for problem-solving network and simple issues. he is the one who directed me here. sorry, i couldn't help with that. Moreover, he has to be careful what he does. He is not supposed to help friends or family with any services or he gets terminated..!!! This is what I have gathered from scowering the internet. back all my files up EFS File most important. Then use odin to flash the 4.4.2 kit-kat firmware. then block all samsung or att updates. blocking the updates I do not know how to do. flashing the firmware I can do!!!
If your phone is running Android 5.1.1 or or newer, then I don't think it can be downgraded to KitKat. It would probably be better for you to just try to figure out what is draining your battery. Check the battery information in settings, or if you want more detail then get get GSAM Battery Monitor or Better Battery Stats in the Play store.
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I have only woken up and my battery drained like crazy. Somehow, 9GAG is the one which drained the most, I don't really care about that, I will uninstall it later if needed. The point here is that the Carrier services, Android system, Google Play services, Google Play store and Cell standby have really high usages! I have just done a factory reset yesterday and things have seem to get only worse. I used to have 500-700 mAh usage for the android system and that used to be about it. Right now, just over night, I have something almost twice as consuming! If I were to continue the day without having the need to recharge right now, everything would have been around 2000-3000 mAh just for the "system/needed apps" in order for the device to run. I do not find this thing normal. Can anyone please help me?
Mobile data drains battery like crazy...
There's factors that can affect the endurance of your phone's battery. These factors may be caused by a malfunction in your phone, or there's simply a global issue that may be affecting the devices in your area.
LTE does use more battery than Wi-Fi, yes. But not that lot, if everything was stable. But, you know, mobile networks are not stable, and sometimes it can struggle with the signal.
If yesterday, your phone used to last the whole day just fine, and the problem suddenly appeared, it may suggest there's an event affecting it.
Try using your phone on Wi-Fi for an hour, and compare the consumption with LTE for the same length. I suggest turning on aeroplane mode when testing the Wi-Fi.
Carrier Services should not be using that large amount of battery. The main purpose of this app is to help carriers communicate with your phone. To enable their exclusive features and so on.
I can't think of 9GAG more than Reddit, social media apps usually don't drain that much battery (TikTok is an exception). Maybe you'll wake up the next day with your phone resurrected.
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I have only woken up and my battery drained like crazy. Somehow, 9GAG is the one which drained the most, I don't really care about that, I will uninstall it later if needed. The point here is that the Carrier services, Android system, Google Play services, Google Play store and Cell standby have really high usages! I have just done a factory reset yesterday and things have seem to get only worse. I used to have 500-700 mAh usage for the android system and that used to be about it. Right now, just over night, I have something almost twice as consuming! If I were to continue the day without having the need to recharge right now, everything would have been around 2000-3000 mAh just for the "system/needed apps" in order for the device to run. I do not find this thing normal. Can anyone please help me?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85702201
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85586743
Although your signature says this: 'This was sent from my Huawei P20 Lite (nova 3e) ANE-LX1 through XDA Labs mobile app."
Are you posting in the correct forum/thread?
Compass.
Compass Linux said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85702201
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85586743
Although your signature says this: 'This was sent from my Huawei P20 Lite (nova 3e) ANE-LX1 through XDA Labs mobile app."
Are you posting in the correct forum/thread?
Compass.
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Yeah.... Sorry about that, haven't used this forum in a long time and I didn't even remember that I have a signature xD. Now I do have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro, global version.
parkourz said:
Mobile data drains battery like crazy...
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Yeah.... I wouldn't expect it to get over 1000 mAh just from the Google services... More like 100-300..
parkourz said:
Mobile data drains battery like crazy...
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Also, isn't that getting "counted" in the cell standby thing?
Mohamedkam000 said:
There's factors that can affect the endurance of your phone's battery. These factors may be caused by a malfunction in your phone, or there's simply a global issue that may be affecting the devices in your area.
LTE does use more battery than Wi-Fi, yes. But not that lot, if everything was stable. But, you know, mobile networks are not stable, and sometimes it can struggle with the signal.
If yesterday, your phone used to last the whole day just fine, and the problem suddenly appeared, it may suggest there's an event affecting it.
Try using your phone on Wi-Fi for an hour, and compare the consumption with LTE for the same length. I suggest turning on aeroplane mode when testing the Wi-Fi.
Carrier Services should not be using that large amount of battery. The main purpose of this app is to help carriers communicate with your phone. To enable their exclusive features and so on.
I can't think of 9GAG more than Reddit, social media apps usually don't drain that much battery (TikTok is an exception). Maybe you'll wake up the next day with your phone resurrected.
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I don't know what you mean in the last part with the resurrection but yeah, I should try doing a test and see if android system and the others calm down if I'm only on Wi-Fi. Also it's been here for a few days already and it's annoying as hell. I have a friend with the same model and he's kinda got the same problem but not that big. He only got like half of what I have. He does have a bug where the gallery app uses 800-1000 mAh if it won't force close it, but that's another thing since I do not face any issues like that.
Compass Linux said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85702201
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85586743
Although your signature says this: 'This was sent from my Huawei P20 Lite (nova 3e) ANE-LX1 through XDA Labs mobile app."
Are you posting in the correct forum/thread?
Compass.
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I don't really understand what you are trying to say but if are trying to tell me that it's because of the 12.5 update, well it kinda isn't. My battery halved when I installed MIUI 12. I have debloated my phone and now the results are as following: *also 1:48 hours with 22% battery drain which is kinda impressive because if things go like this it low-key means that I can totally go for approximately 8 hours now. My phone was debloated before too but it didn't do much. Right now, I've mostly been on Wi-Fi because in the area I had to go, there isn't really any 4G/signal. It's either thanks to not using mobile data, which I did use for like 1/4 of the usage time until now, either to debloating it.*
ImTheRealMarco said:
Yeah.... Sorry about that, haven't used this forum in a long time and I didn't even remember that I have a signature xD. Now I do have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro, global version.
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Welcome to the club!
ImTheRealMarco said:
I don't really understand what you are trying to say but if are trying to tell me that it's because of the 12.5 update, well it kinda isn't. My battery halved when I installed MIUI 12. I have debloated my phone and now the results are as following: *also 1:48 hours with 22% battery drain which is kinda impressive because if things go like this it low-key means that I can totally go for approximately 8 hours now. My phone was debloated before too but it didn't do much. Right now, I've mostly been on Wi-Fi because in the area I had to go, there isn't really any 4G/signal. It's either thanks to not using mobile data, which I did use for like 1/4 of the usage time until now, either to debloating it.*
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MIUI 12.5.x for our device came with many problems. Battery drain being one of them.
I'm assuming that you're using Stock MIUI 12.5.x. If that's your case, you have to wait for an update that fixes the battery drain.
https://github.com/PixelExperience/android-issues/issues/388 (the ROM maintainer explains better the issue)
Compass.
Compass Linux said:
Welcome to the club!
MIUI 12.5.x for our device came with many problems. Device drain being one of them.
I'm assuming that you're using Stock MIUI 12.5.x. If that's your case, you have to wait for an update that fixes the battery drain.
https://github.com/PixelExperience/android-issues/issues/388 (the ROM maintainer explains better the issue)
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I already have the phone for a year and a half but thanks . Also.. are we sure that we are going to get a fix in the next update relating to this battery drain issue?.. Or is it something that we EXPECT to happen?... Also yes, I'm using the stock debloated version! I could rollback to an older version but will that actually fix something? I still had the issue even on MIUI 12, not 12.5. MIUI 11 was the only one which had no problems .
Ah yes, the android system has kicked in again with a spectacular 245 mAh used! Will update in a few hours.
EDIT: In AccuBattery it's only showing as this: *look at the attached photo*. Are the MIUI battery stats wrong? Does AccuBattery not record the actual Android System usage? Does it put it in another category, like for example the app I was using at that time?
ImTheRealMarco said:
I already have the phone for a year and a half but thanks . Also.. are we sure that we are going to get a fix in the next update relating to this battery drain issue?.. Or is it something that we EXPECT to happen?... Also yes, I'm using the stock debloated version! I could rollback to an older version but will that actually fix something? I still had the issue even on MIUI 12, not 12.5. MIUI 11 was the only one which had no problems .
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Welcome to the sh!t where Xiaomi breaks it's budget phones with every update to force it's clients to buy new budget phone every year or pay 3xprice for higher-shelf device... Oh! And welcome to the Mediatek sh!t which deters developers, too!
It's 2 times when I bought Xiaomeme phone: first and last...
parkourz said:
Welcome to the sh!t where Xiaomi breaks it's budget phones with every update to force it's clients to buy new budget phone every year or pay 3xprice for higher-shelf device... Oh! And welcome to the Mediatek sh!t which deters developers, too!
It's 2 times when I bought Xiaomeme phone: first and last...
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Alright BUT if I buy a 400-500$ phone it's gonna "break" in 2 and a half years instead of 1 and a half years huh? Any other option besides Xiaomi?
ImTheRealMarco said:
I already have the phone for a year and a half but thanks . Also.. are we sure that we are going to get a fix in the next update relating to this battery drain issue?.. Or is it something that we EXPECT to happen?... Also yes, I'm using the stock debloated version! I could rollback to an older version but will that actually fix something? I still had the issue even on MIUI 12, not 12.5. MIUI 11 was the only one which had no problems .
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Users: We expect the bugs to be fixed with future updates.
Xiaomi: We expect not to fix bugs especially if they can push the sales of other phones.
Jokes aside, keep your fingers crossed that this battery drain issue is fixed by Xiaomi soon. Especially because our device will be EOL November/2021.
As for MIUI 12.0.x also having a battery drain problem I don't know. I started having this issue with PE+ when it started using MIUI 12.5.x as its base.
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Compass Linux said:
Users: We expect the bugs to be fixed with future updates.
Xiaomi: We expect not to fix bugs especially if they can push the sales of other phones.
Jokes aside, keep your fingers crossed that this battery drain issue is fixed by Xiaomi soon. Especially because our device will be EOL November/2021.
As for MIUI 12.0.x also having a battery drain problem I don't know. I started having this issue with PE+ when it started using MIUI 12.5.x as its base.
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Also, since you seem pretty knowledgeable about custom ROMs, if you don't mind me asking, is using a custom ROM still safe? Like for inputting banking info etc etc.? And if it is, what are the downsides? And is there a way to break my phone like for real/forever? And what ROM would you recommend? Also, do you know if unlocking the bootloader voids my warranty? *It's not like I got much more of it left* And by the way, what's your address experience on using a custom ROM? How's the battery life? Anddddd sorry for the all questions, its fine if you don't wanna take the time to answer xD.
ImTheRealMarco said:
Also, since you seem pretty knowledgeable about custom ROMs, if you don't mind me asking, is using a custom ROM still safe? Like for inputting banking info etc etc.? And if it is, what are the downsides? And is there a way to break my phone like for real/forever? And what ROM would you recommend? Also, do you know if unlocking the bootloader voids my warranty? *It's not like I got much more of it left* And by the way, what's your address experience on using a custom ROM? How's the battery life? Anddddd sorry for the all questions, its fine if you don't wanna take the time to answer xD.
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Is using a Custom ROM safe (for banking, PayPal etc)? I cannot give a proper answer for this. Custom ROMs are usually a mix of open source code (from the Custom ROM developer(s)) and binary blobs from the manufacturer (I might be missing something here). You could build a Custom ROM from the source code and add the binary blobs yourself to be sure, but that's quite a lot of work. I chose PE+ for now which has a decent user base. I do use banking applications with it (even with root). Now let's suppose you work for the CIA or the NSA. I wouldn't recommend a Custom ROM for you, and certainly would have reservations for stock MIUI too. It depends on your mileage;
Downsides? I'll talk specifically about the RN8Pro. In the past it was easier to hard brick the device, which meant that you needed to contact an authorized service center to fix it (or go online but I won't detail it here). So depending on the mistake you do when you flash a Custom ROM yes, you can hard brick it (read #3 to unbrick). Another thing that's possible to damage is the IMEI. It's always advisable to make nandroid backups of the relevant IMEI partitions in case you ever need them (restoring the IMEI partitions should only be done if absolutely needed and might still fail for whatever reason);
Breaking your phone. There is now an unbrick method that fixes a hard brick without the need for a service center. You can do it yourself too.
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Recommended Custom ROM. My suggestion is that you stay as close to Stock ROM as possible, so try
. This modded Stock MIUI 12.5.x should have an update soon;
Warranty for a unlocked bootloader. Yes, you'll void your warranty but you can also re-lock your bootloader if necessary. Unlocking your bootloader will format your data (you'll lose apps + data in the process). I don't know if re-locking does the same, but I guess it does;
My experience on using a Custom ROM. I've only used PE+ as my daily driver. For the good and the bad (there's probably other stuff I didn't mention) read https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85697555. That's my resumed review of the latest release at that time;
Time. I don't mind taking my time to answer your questions (and being corrected too).
If you do decide to try a Custom ROM there are a bunch of channels in Telegram. Most developers have migrated to there and don't usually reply to queries here at XDA. There's a lot more Custom ROMs available on TeleGram than here. You'll have to search for those.
This YouTube channel should have answers for most of your Custom ROM flashing questions:
https://www.youtube.com/c/AlltricksCoIn/videos
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Is using a Custom ROM safe (for banking, PayPal etc)? I cannot give a proper answer for this. Custom ROMs are usually a mix of open source code (from the Custom ROM developer(s)) and binary blobs from the manufacturer (I might be missing something here). You could build a Custom ROM from the source code and add the binary blobs yourself to be sure, but that's quite a lot of work. I chose PE+ for now which has a decent user base. I do use banking applications with it (even with root). Now let's suppose you work for the CIA or the NSA. I wouldn't recommend a Custom ROM for you, and certainly would have reservations for stock MIUI too. It depends on your mileage;
Downsides? I'll talk specifically about the RN8Pro. In the past it was easier to hard brick the device, which meant that you needed to contact an authorized service center to fix it (or go online but I won't detail it here). So depending on the mistake you do when you flash a Custom ROM yes, you can hard brick it (read #3 to unbrick). Another thing that's possible to damage is the IMEI. It's always advisable to make nandroid backups of the relevant IMEI partitions in case you ever need them (restoring the IMEI partitions should only be done if absolutely needed and might still fail for whatever reason);
Breaking your phone. There is now an unbrick method that fixes a hard brick without the need for a service center. You can do it yourself too.
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Recommended Custom ROM. My suggestion is that you stay as close to Stock ROM as possible, so try
. This modded Stock MIUI 12.5.x should have an update soon;
Warranty for a unlocked bootloader. Yes, you'll void your warranty but you can also re-lock your bootloader if necessary. Unlocking your bootloader will format your data (you'll lose apps + data in the process). I don't know if re-locking does the same, but I guess it does;
My experience on using a Custom ROM. I've only used PE+ as my daily driver. For the good and the bad (there's probably other stuff I didn't mention) read https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...xperience-official-aosp.4196041/post-85697555. That's my resumed review of the latest release at that time;
Time. I don't mind taking my time to answer your questions (and being corrected too).
If you do decide to try a Custom ROM there are a bunch of channels in Telegram. Most developers have migrated to there and don't usually reply to queries here at XDA. There's a lot more Custom ROMs available on TeleGram than here.
Telegram channel/group links:
t.me/RedmiNote8ProOfficial (for queries; check /rules and /notes before asking)
t.me/RedmiNote8ProUpdates (for releases)
This YouTube channel should have answers for most of your Custom ROM flashing questions:
https://www.youtube.com/c/AlltricksCoIn/videos
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Thanks a lot man, I wonder if re-locking the bootloader will "regain" my warranty like if I re-lock it and send it to service, will they say something? Also I have heard that you are going to brick your phone if you re-lock the bootloader while you have a custom ROM or something like that, which I don't know anything about. So that may be fake. Thanks once again for all the explanations!! By the way, do you know what the average Android System usage should be? Or for example, what's your daily usage?
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Thanks a lot man, I wonder if re-locking the bootloader will "regain" my warranty like if I re-lock it and send it to service, will they say something? Also I have heard that you are going to brick your phone if you re-lock the bootloader while you have a custom ROM or something like that, which I don't know anything about. So that may be fake. Thanks once again for all the explanations!! By the way, do you know what the average Android System usage should be? Or for example, what's your daily usage?
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Re-locking your bootloader is the same as buying it new and locked. Xiaomi phones don't act like Samsung's Knox, which goes to 0x1 once the bootloader is unlocked and cannot be set back to 0x0.
To re-lock your bootloader you basically flash a Stock MIUI and enable the re-lock option (when using SP Flash Tool if I'm not mistaken). I've never heard of re-locking a bootloader with a Custom ROM installed (I don't think it's possible).
I'll attach screenshots with my Android System usage, but since I've just charged and turned on my phone I don't think it'll help you.
I don't know what the average usage for the Android System should be. It should vary with the phone's use.
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Re-locking your bootloader is the same as buying it new and locked. Xiaomi phones don't act like Samsung's Knox, which goes to 0x1 once the bootloader is unlocked and cannot be set back to 0x0.
To re-lock your bootloader you basically flash a Stock MIUI and enable the re-lock option (when using SP Flash Tool if I'm not mistaken). I've never heard of re-locking a bootloader with a Custom ROM installed (I don't think it's possible).
I'll attach screenshots with my Android System usage, but since I've just charged and turned on my phone I don't think it'll help you.
I don't know what the average usage for the Android System should be. It should vary with the phone's use.
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Yeah.... Besides that you just charged it, I cannot see the mAh used by it but it seems pretty high but mime's almost double the %. I wonder if the Kernel (Android OS) gets into the Android System tab for me, unlike for you. Also, do you know if AccuBattery is accurate? Because if it is, then the Android System isn't using almost anything. I did also have 4 hours of SoT with 50% so the battery life is about as good as it can be, I think? By the way, I have heard that disabling MIUI optimizations could help. Do you know anything about that?. Thanks a lot in advance, once again!
Why? I have restricted all apps I can, still drain very fast....
In my opinion this is a thing that has been on Android (and sometimes Windows and iOS) phones since day 1. Specifically that some people randomly get very poor battery, especially standby battery, which most people are fine. It's a problem with a huge number of unknown causes and few solutions. My recommendation is always - do a hard full system wipe. The three or four times it's happened to me, this was the solution.
With the lack of information you gave there are so many reasons your phone's battery could be sucking now. I suggest doing some research and digging through XDA or some other nerdy site. I don't mean this to sound bad, but figure it out on your own. If you find something that works, share it here.
I went from 4h SOT to 2h SOT after the update same or less usage
Are u rooted? Without root it's pretty hard to do much. First thing u need is data. Find out what is using too much batt. You can use the battery section in settings to get clues. If u have root you can get even more info/data. Once u find the app or process responsible then u can drop the hammer on it.
November build have a lot of bugs, wifi sucks battery sucks, call quality is poor....
my fingerprint sensor broke.
10/1 ratio...
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Why? I have restricted all apps I can, still drain very fast....
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pedro6669 said:
With the lack of information you gave there are so many reasons your phone's battery could be sucking now. I suggest doing some research and digging through XDA or some other nerdy site. I don't mean this to sound bad, but figure it out on your own. If you find something that works, share it here.
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Try a clean flash using PixelFlasher or the Android Flash Tool through Chrome browser and skipping the initial setup guide. (Old backups can cause problems). Once your Pixel is running then you can set your apps up!
Just updated my Magic4 Pro to Android 13, Magic OS 7.1, Build number: 7.1.0.136 and I cannot switch between apps; the functionality is simply broken.
I've got a video demonstrating it on Twitter...would therefore suggest not upgrading until this is (and potentially other bugs) fixed.
UPDATE:
I've found the potential cause of said issue - it's linked with the launcher not being default. Switching it back to Honor Home, then re-selecting Nova launcher seems to have fixed the issue.
However, if I restart or power off the phone, the issue comes back, thus needing to do the above again.
Was it à regular updates from Honor ?
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Just updated my Magic4 Pro to Android 13, Magic OS 7.1, Build number: 7.1.0.136 and I cannot switch between apps; the functionality is simply broken.
I've got a video demonstrating it on Twitter...would therefore suggest not upgrading until this is (and potentially other bugs) fixed.
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I suggest you to perform a hard reset. I don't meet this issue. It's very strange!!!
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Was it à regular updates from Honor ?
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Yes it's a regular and official update.
Curious, didn't receive the update
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I suggest you to perform a hard reset. I don't meet this issue. It's very strange!!!
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That's not something I'm prepared to do; don't want to be wasting my time having to do a full factory reset due to a broken feature that's been pushed through by the manufacturer.
And yes, regular and official update.
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Curious, didn't receive the update
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You should tape in the three points upper in right in the app Honor Club( system update). Trying versions.
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That's not something I'm prepared to do; don't want to be wasting my time having to do a full factory reset due to a broken feature that's been pushed through by the manufacturer.
And yes, regular and official update.
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I'm going to perform a hard reset because of draining battery and others bugs. I was before a beta tester. This update, too soon!!! Honor should have waited!!! I'm angry !
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I'm going to perform a hard reset because of draining battery and others bugs. I was before a beta tester. This update, too soon!!! Honor should have waited!!! I'm angry !
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Agreed.
Doing a reset will solve it, I have not done it and it works fine, I have been lucky.
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That's not something I'm prepared to do; don't want to be wasting my time having to do a full factory reset due to a broken feature that's been pushed through by the manufacturer.
And yes, regular and official update.
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Unfortunately you might just have to do a backup and do it when it comes to android in general not just honor platform updates tend to break things and only way to fix those bugs is to reset simple as that you can complain left and right but that's just how it is happens on ios mac os and Windows as well
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Unfortunately you might just have to do a backup and do it when it comes to android in general not just honor platform updates tend to break things and only way to fix those bugs is to reset simple as that you can complain left and right but that's just how it is happens on ios mac os and Windows as well
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I used to flash ROMs and kernels weekly on my SGS1, but I can't ever recall one breaking basing navigation functionalities.
With that said, I've found the potential cause of said issue - it's linked with the launcher not being default. Switching it back to Honor Home, then re-selecting Nova launcher seems to have fixed the issue.
However, if I restart or power off the phone, the issue comes back, thus needing to do the above again.
It was very relieving to find this thread and make my phone usable again. It was horrible experience trying to use the phone without an ability to switch apps.
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It was very relieving to find this thread and make my phone usable again. It was horrible experience trying to use the phone without an ability to switch apps.
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Sorry to hear that but glad I could help!
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I used to flash ROMs and kernels weekly on my SGS1, but I can't ever recall one breaking basing navigation functionalities.
With that said, I've found the potential cause of said issue - it's linked with the launcher not being default. Switching it back to Honor Home, then re-selecting Nova launcher seems to have fixed the issue.
However, if I restart or power off the phone, the issue comes back, thus needing to do the above again.
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"It didn't happen before so it can't happen now" great logic also that was super long time ago lmao back in SGS1 days we only had 1 navigation type so it either fully worked or didn't there were no variables these days we have 2-3 so obvs stuff can break plus don't forget with a clean install there are 0 variables that's why bugs, if they happen, are caught by honor or whoever makes the update with apps and custom settings thrown in there's thousands of variables that can make stuff go haywire
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"It didn't happen before so it can't happen now" great logic also that was super long time ago lmao back in SGS1 days we only had 1 navigation type so it either fully worked or didn't there were no variables these days we have 2-3 so obvs stuff can break plus don't forget with a clean install there are 0 variables that's why bugs, if they happen, are caught by honor or whoever makes the update with apps and custom settings thrown in there's thousands of variables that can make stuff go haywire
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Indeed, it is great logic. Android has been in development for 13 years since the SGS1, so you'd expect fewer bugs and fundamental features not being broken. Remember, not everyone is a techie nor will come to XDA looking for the fix, and ultimately might be put off the brand altogether, which otherwise makes excellent phones (and I've owned Honor phones on/off since 2015).
Guess you're not thinking of the bigger picture here, anyway I digress.
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Indeed, it is great logic. Android has been in development for 13 years since the SGS1, so you'd expect fewer bugs and fundamental features not being broken. Remember, not everyone is a techie nor will come to XDA looking for the fix, and ultimately might be put off the brand altogether, which otherwise makes excellent phones (and I've owned Honor phones on/off since 2015).
Guess you're not thinking of the bigger picture here, anyway I digress.
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No its garbage logic in fact yes its been in dev for 13 years it has also been adding features for 13 years changin things for 13 years for same 13 years its also been supporting over 20k+ devices and working on them bugs are about normal with majority phones we dont see a lot cuz devs squash them before they push the update but variables that i mentioned prevent devs from covering all scenarios so shenanigans happen my problem was not with bug itself my problem is people like you talking crap because they refuse to wipe or expect flawless experience every time nothing is perfect especially software
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Indeed, it is great logic. Android has been in development for 13 years since the SGS1, so you'd expect fewer bugs and fundamental features not being broken. Remember, not everyone is a techie nor will come to XDA looking for the fix, and ultimately might be put off the brand altogether, which otherwise makes excellent phones (and I've owned Honor phones on/off since 2015).
Guess you're not thinking of the bigger picture here, anyway I digress.
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I think you are an expert. Do you think it is possible to install Google Services Framework on Magic5pro? I have one but dunno how to do so. Thank you for your sharing.