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Before I got my WP7 phone, the general consensus I was getting is that the notification system was better than iOS, yet worse than Android.
Now that I'm using the phone I can't really figure out what exactly is better about the notification system?
Is there some kind of Android-like notification cache that allows you to view recently ignored notifications? As far as I can tell the only improvement over iOS is that the notifications are out of the way (rather than popping up right in the center of the screen) and that they can be seen on the lock screen.
I disagree. I find WP7 to be the best and I think it will only get better with time. Android is too primitive and gets out of control quickly -kind of like Android the OS is.
But I agree, a nice list of recent notifications would be useful.
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In what way is it better than iOS?
The only advantage seems to be the lock screen notifications. Aside from that I'm not sure in what way it's better than iOS.
Well I believe the Live Tiles help you with the notifications. If you miss one, it will most likely be on the tile. Yea, it does kinda suck if the app that uses notifications doesn't use the live tile but that's up to the developer. But also sucks that if the application that notified you isn't on your main screen, you won't know. So I understand your frustration. The main notifications you would want are text messages, emails, and phone calls, which you said are on the lock screen. I guess Microsoft will have to grow from there.
For me it's the Live Tiles that does it - they provide instant notification.
The toast notifications on the other hand are really a waste of space if you ask me, they don't stay on-screen for long enough to action. In most cases I'll hear the toast coming in with my phone in my pocket, and by the time I pull the phone out all I see is the notification sliding away to the side - we really need something like Android's system for these.
I was hoping there would be something like Android's notification shade. Some kind of central repository for notifications. It completely changes the way you handle notifications.
I don't find it annoying, it isn't in your face like iOS. Plus, you can't dismiss them in iOS.
The lockscreen notification really does it for me. Since there is a dedicated icon for every notification, I can note where to go.
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I was hoping there would be something like Android's notification shade. Some kind of central repository for notifications. It completely changes the way you handle notifications.
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webOS, their notification system is better than Android's to be honest.
canadariot2312 said:
I don't find it annoying, it isn't in your face like iOS. Plus, you can't dismiss them in iOS.
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I'm fairly certain you can dismiss it in iOS. On the lock screen you can't dismiss it, but if you get a notification for a text message while using the phone you have the option to reply or dismiss.
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I'm fairly certain you can dismiss it in iOS. On the lock screen you can't dismiss it, but if you get a notification for a text message while using the phone you have the option to reply or dismiss.
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A swipe to the right on the notification bar dismisses them on WP7, it is quite quick.
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A swipe to the right on the notification bar dismisses them on WP7, it is quite quick.
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I was just responding to a comment above that was saying notifications couldn't be dismissed on iOS. I wasn't suggesting that notifications couldn't be dismissed in WP7, sorry if it came off like that.
WP7 doesn't interrupt your workflow. The fact that the notification takes over the entire phone when you get one on iOS is ridiculous.
I agree with Android > WP7 > iOS in the notification department.
all windows phone needs is a full down notification system like android has (or perhaps a swipe to a third left screen). on this screen it could show more then just notifications but also a full time line of everything related... phone calls made/received/missed, messages received/sent, calendar appointments, alarms, etc. aggregate them all together into one scrolling view.
though it could be a bit overly cluttered, but would provide for a great way to absorb everything in a time line format on your screen.
Android-Oh, I'll just unlock the phone, slide my laggy lock screen, wait for the page to pull up entirely, slide down the notification bar, oh what's that? a text? ok, ill pull up the app via that notification and wait for it to load. Way too many taps for me if its quicker on another os... and like others have said, iOS just encompasses too much of the screen.
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all windows phone needs is a full down notification system like android has (or perhaps a swipe to a third left screen). on this screen it could show more then just notifications but also a full time line of everything related... phone calls made/received/missed, messages received/sent, calendar appointments, alarms, etc. aggregate them all together into one scrolling view.
though it could be a bit overly cluttered, but would provide for a great way to absorb everything in a time line format on your screen.
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I definitely second this one. Another screen for the notifs would be brilliant.
Let's say there is a notification on the live tile. Then, after another notification comes, does the one that was there before go away?
LIVE tile notifications not working.
Recently all the apps that have LIVE tile notification have stopped working on my WP7.
These include Beezzapp, Flixster and WeatherBug - they haven't worked for over 3 weeks now. The pre-installed notifications still work.
Anyone else been experiencing the same problem?
sameerabedi said:
Recently all the apps that have LIVE tile notification have stopped working on my WP7.
These include Beezzapp, Flixster and WeatherBug - they haven't worked for over 3 weeks now. The pre-installed notifications still work.
Anyone else been experiencing the same problem?
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weatherbug I've experienced, gone back to the weather channel app. Got rid of beezz, decided sesmic was better. Flixster isn't on my home screen so I can't comment.
You guys make it seem like WP7 saves notifications (I'm talking about toast notifications here, the ones appearing at the top of your screen) until you "action" them (either by tapping it or sliding it to the side) - is this really how it is supposed to work because it doesn't for me.
Let's say I have my phone locked on the desk next to me and a toast comes thru, all that seems to happen for me is - screen turns on, displays the notification at the top and unless I touch the screen it turns back off within a few seconds. If I then go on to turn on the display again the notification is gone.
The same happens if the phone is unlocked, with the screen on, when receiving a toast - the notification is displayed for a few seconds but unless I tap it or slide it to the side it disappears itself within a few seconds.
For example, I have toasts activated in Beezz, but I hardly ever get to see the notification because in the time it takes me to get to my phone (it may be in my pocket or behind me) the notification is already gone. At which point I can only guess that it was a Twitter mention/message, tap Beezz, wait for it to load the feed and tap mentions/messages.
Are you all saying it works differently for you guys? If so, is there a setting somewhere? Cause I'm seeing this behaviour on three different devices.
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Android-Oh, I'll just unlock the phone, slide my laggy lock screen, wait for the page to pull up entirely, slide down the notification bar, oh what's that? a text? ok, ill pull up the app via that notification and wait for it to load. Way too many taps for me if its quicker on another os... and like others have said, iOS just encompasses too much of the screen.
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I don't see how it's any faster one WP7?
First off, most Android phones have LED's for notifications so you're already a step ahead.
Secondly, you can see the notification bar while you're on the lockscreen in Android so that matches WP7's lockscreen icons. WP7 has an advantage were the lockscreen notifications give you more info (i.e. number of emails and calendar appointment) but Android makes up for it by allowing third party apps to push notifications to the notification bar and by extension the lockscreen.
Finally, once the phones unlocked I don't see where WP7's advantage is. In WP7 I now need to go in and individually click on the icons of the various apps to check my email or texts or missed calls. This is no different from Android except Android will let me pull down the notification shade which will give me handy shortcuts to all the apps with notifications. If you think the extra action of pulling down the notification shade is such a tremendous waste of time you can simply skip it and just tap the email icon or messaging icon, at which point the amount of actions you've taken is exactly identical to what you would have done with WP7.
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I'm fairly certain you can dismiss it in iOS. On the lock screen you can't dismiss it, but if you get a notification for a text message while using the phone you have the option to reply or dismiss.
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Blah, I was using iOS and the notification system is kind of bad on the lockscreen.
Apparently BlackBerry OS is similar to Android's approach. Android's notification system, although cool, still can't hold a candle to webOS. I don't want a notification system that takes up the whole screen.
im thrilled how the facebook app has push notifications now however that a long with other push notifications needs work because often times the message will be too long to fit in the actual notification window and i will have to leave the app im currently in to go read the whole notification
i think they need to improve on the push notifications maybe when a push notification occurs the whole messaged is "streamed" in the window like a moving banner so you can read the whole thing choose to go to the app to respond or move on and continue what you were doing. much like how android works
anyone else feel this way?
I never thought about streaming, that sounds great. The infrastructure needs to be improved for toast/live tile notifications. This is supposedly a selling point but whether it works or not is a crap shoot on most days. If the core problem is developer coding then it needs to be more closely scrutinized during the review process. Also, a central repository for notifications needs to be accessed via some gesture.
I think when Mango comes along you won't really care that you have to leave the application to see the entire thing.
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In my opinion they made a good start to pop up the message on the top. You can slide it to right to dismiss and klick to show. But instead of klicking on the tile they should have made a slide to left ,like to right to dismiss, to view the app where the message is shown (e.g. Facebook) and slide down to show the full message in an extra message window
the toast notification is barely useful
most of the notifications i can only read about 60% 70% of the message before its cut off and so i do have to leave my current app to see what sgoing on, on my android phone the entire message would stream or show in that toast window, it was very helpful and useful
i just hope they realize this soon enough
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In my opinion they made a good start to pop up the message on the top. You can slide it to right to dismiss and klick to show. But instead of klicking on the tile they should have made a slide to left ,like to right to dismiss, to view the app where the message is shown (e.g. Facebook) and slide down to show the full message in an extra message window
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i think thats a great idea! i wish we had some way to get that message across to them sigh
i wish the toast notification didnt automatically disappear, and the lockscreen showed 3rd part notifications.
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I was thinking the same thing, but I'm not sure how scrolling text will work resource wise. Although this would be pretty neat for a sport app, with updating scores and such.
What I was thinking was more of a pull-down overlay. Where you get a text/push notification, and you can pull it down to either reply right there, or view the entire message. I think that may work better, and would be pretty convenient.
IMO, the idea that used in Nokia N9 for notification is really neat and it is suitable for WP7. flick to left to show apps list, flick to right to show all notification with simple option optimized for the notification like reply, forward, etc. etc.
I would also like to see the "notifications" tab in the me tile show all notifications, so you would have a record, all in one neat, easily accessible place
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I would also like to see the "notifications" tab in the me tile show all notifications, so you would have a record, all in one neat, easily accessible place
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Hrrrm, great Idea!
If the current app you're in has a landscape mode, switch to landscape before the notification goes away and you'll see even more if not all of it.
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You can have a read through the thread below, different ideas and opinions on what to do and what not to do. I'm personally all for the N9 system while some people would like the Android curtain in WP7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097259
Speaking of notifications, I have a group pinned to my start screen, and I had a missed call from someone in that group and the tile said "missed call" with the callers name on it.
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There is a cool app for Active display feature: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.knock.knock.plus&hl=en
But according to it the active display feature wouldn't work exactly the way it works on Motorola where only the notification part lights up, because it needs Amoled display while P6 got IPS display. Other than that it works fine and those who want to see notification and messages directly can use this until hopefully Huawei comes with its own. A slight annoying problem though is that the bottom grey navigation bar shows up and covers part of the screen. On the google play, they have showed it working on a Nexus 4 and no navigation bar shows up in such way. So i don't know yet how to get it in full screen without navigation bar on the P6.
See screenshot of how it shows up. Is there a fix to this ? Or should this be given as feedback to Huawei for their upgrade, so that third party apps don't have this problem when running on p6 ?
I have tried a couple of notification apps namely: The above "Knock2", Active Notify, Dynamic Notifications and NotifierPro
My observations:
- The easiest yet efficient layout of all is the one Motorola came out with. This is because in case of the MOTO all work ( read notification without unlocking, go to app, dismiss, turnoff screen or unlock screen) can all be done within a long press+swipe option i.e., one touch. But in case of Knock2 app, you need two distinct touches which makes it slower. The notifierpro comes second, as the message can be read and dismissed as well as accessed in one touch or swipe, but this one got no option to tun off screen or choose to read notification from multiple apps.
- The notifierpro app has two advantages.
1) The app can function both within a lock screen as well as outside a lock screen. While in case of other apps, it just functions for the lock screen. The notifierpro app also got all the options like screen awakening as well other useful customization's and hence makes needless the other notification apps.
2) This app does not sacrifice the Huawei or Android lock screen while in case of others, it takes over the lock screen. Some might actually like this as they dont like the default lock screens, but in case of those wanting customization's, shortcuts, widgets, guest login mode, etc, on lock screen, this would be a problem.
- All these notification apps got the following faults:
In case of detailed reading of the message, only the first message can be read. When the second message reaches, it shows up as "2 new message" etc and no ability to read it.
None of these apps synchronize with the android notification panel. In fact, all these apps just beam the same message that is shown on the android top bar. All you can do is dismiss the message that is beamed, but it still remains on the android notification panel as well as the top bar. And if one was to use the Huawei lock screen ( not the password lock), one can bring down the notification panel from the lock screen and access notifications and apps directly from there. So if the android was to merely allow awakening, it can do all the tasks that these apps do, by the android notification panel itself. The android notification panel can in fact do much more.
And finally the whole idea of such notifications would clash with privacy, in case someone else was to use the phone. So there should be a quick toggle option to Allow/Not allow the detail reading of messages or turn off this notification function.
Now the real deal is in someone creating an app combining the advantage of all, yet keeping it simple Anyone with bright ideas for your Huawei Emotion UI upgrade ?.
My suggestion is to go for notifierpro layout but with added options:
1) Ability to turn off screen after dismissing, in lockscreen mode.
2) Read multiple notifications from single app as well as multiple apps. Reading multiple notifications from a single app can be done by swiping the pop up in a left/right direction that switches to the next or previous messages. While reading notifications on multiple apps can be done by having separate popups open in layers of rows.
3) Synchronize with android notification by one level i.e., synchronized with the top bar. So dismissing a notification should remove it from the top bar, but yet available within the slide down notification panel. So one could dismiss something for now from the pop up and decide to later access notification panel and read them all.
4) Toggle on/off button in notification panel to quick turn on/off the active/pop up notification.
Remember that P6 don't have an Amoled screen, so the layout of the MOTO is not really useful for the P6. So this idea of having first two small icons of the apps shown from which one is to be touched and accessed, isn't really useful because in the IPS display the whole screen is going to be awakened anyway and not just the small icons being awakened in case of amoled screen. So when that is the case, then more of the screen should be taken advantage, so its better to have the detailed message directly pop up on screen as the notifierpro does. This is also minimalist and no need to have the whole lockscreen changed, and this gives advantage of having pop ups even outside the lock screen.
Hi,
So finally I've upgraded my G3 cat.6 (F460K) to lollipop. I find a few things annoying and I guess it is applicable to all G3:
1. lock screen notification - is it just me or LG made it useless? what's the point of all notifications if you cannot enter them from the lock screen. Am I missing something? some notifications (such as calendar) I can tap and then slide below it to arrive directly to the event. other notification does not work so I don't see the point in such notifications. tell me if it happen to you to.
2. my bottom bar is white. in some applications (whatsapp, browser etc) every time I type something and keyboard pops up, the bottom bar turns black. after finishing the typing it goes back to white.
3. no Qmemo (screen capture) from the home bottom
4. the notification bar keeps changing colors but most of it is not the same color as the app. is there any rule?
Please share your thoughts. and tell me if the above happen to you too.
Thanks.
1. works with all. When you press notification it indicates that you have to unlock the screen. After unlock app will open.
2. settings-homescreen-navbar style. Which one you chosed?
3. not using so wouldnt know
4. its material design. Apps that are not built with material design will not have the same backgroud
1. Yeah, and having only 2 notifications there is frustrating. There's room for more...
2. Strange, never happened to me on both stock and hacker's keyboard.
3. Yep, no navring for 5.0! I really hope that it's fixable...
4. The rule should be "let application decide, if it doesn't care - then use color of action bar". Usually, actionbar sits on top of activity, and everything looks fine.
Just got the 7T, coming from a Pixel 3. So far I'm really enjoying it but there are a few things that slightly annoy me and can't figure out how to address:
1.) I realized that I wasn't getting a notification in the status bar for google play updates. If I swiped down, the notification would be in the shade. After spending a lot of time searching through everything, I noticed in the shade (where you swipe half way on a notification to reveal a gear icon) that the notifications were on "Other", just as it was on my pixel 3 but didn't experience this issue. I then changed it to "Important" notifications. This helped, but now when I have my phone on ring or vibrate, I get notified of an app update or when an app has finished updating (rings or vibrates)*. This isn't a huge deal, but it slightly annoys me. Is this common for OnePlus? Can anyone help me trouble shoot?
2.) Another issue I'm experiencing started right before creating this thread (Which is what prompted me to seek your guys' help). The OnePlus launcher updated. Now whenever I slide up from an app to the app switcher, I get a little a vibration. Again, not a huge deal, but I prefer not to have that every time as I'm always switching apps. I can't find where to shut that off.
3) Lastly, in the camera app, I cannot glide my finger to see all camera modes like the pixel 3. I have to tap each one individually in order to get to the mode I want if it's off screen. This seems counter intuitive. Again, is this a OnePlus thing or am I going insane?
No big issues, but if you can help me figure these out or put me in my place by telling me this is how OnePlus works, I'd greatly appreciate it.
*This also happens for LastPass as well.
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3) Lastly, in the camera app, I cannot glide my finger to see all camera modes like the pixel 3. I have to tap each one individually in order to get to the mode I want if it's off screen. This seems counter intuitive. Again, is this a OnePlus thing or am I going insane?
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I've noticed the exact same thing in Camera App. Look's like a feature It's quicker/easier to simply swipe up this bar to access all mode selection.
Olivier.
nemolivier said:
I've noticed the exact same thing in Camera App. Look's like a feature It's quicker/easier to simply swipe up this bar to access all mode selection.
Olivier.
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I appreciate the response. I had no idea I could swipe up! Thank you!