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please help with some newb questions

Playing with the Desire rom on my HTC HD2 and have hit some questions that I need to google for answers. I'm hoping for some help to see what normal is & what can be tweaked & so on.
- When my device is off and I get a sms page, I get a sound notification & a vibration - but the screen doesn't turn on. Is this normal or a bug in the way I am using the rom on my HD2?
- When I turn on the device, on the lock screen I see a bit of the missed page - but no way I can see to jump to the sms message. I can just unlock the phone & manually go see what it was. Would like a 1-step solution. This normal?
- The hardware buttons at the bottom of my device can light up (and do in Windows Mobile) but not running Droid. Once again, dunno if it's a bug in the way I'm using Droid or if the Desire simply doesn't have light up hardware buttons.
- I check a few web pages daily for WinMo news & new apps. Anyone have recommendations of must read Android web pages?
I know I had some others that I've forgotten already.
I will be researching these questions myself (as 3 kids 3 & under permit) & if I find answers I will post them myself. Thanks for your time.

First two are normal and you just need to slide down the notifications tray at the top to get to messages.

steve228uk said:
First two are normal and you just need to slide down the notifications tray at the top to get to messages.
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Thanks. Much better then trying to figure out a bug.
Good time for me to look into lock screen replacements. Any suggestions?
Edit:
Made this my research project of the night - going to test out WidgetLocker Lockscreen.

Program launcher question - I dislike the big list of programs all mixed together. I'd like to make a folder/subfolder structure so I click on the main button, then pick games (possibly then breaking it down into game types, etc).
Are their apps that replace the program launcher portion without replacing the whole home screen?
If not, how about a program that is just a stand alone launcher? IE - I run the program from a shortcut & get the feature I'm looking for?

Found one that does it perfectly - 'Folder Organizer'
Also like the WidgetLocker lockscreen. Love using the Photo Gallery widgets that cycle through pix every 30 minutes.
Little by little I'm getting there.

I took me a while to get used to it too but you have to adopt the homescreens for your favourite apps where you can have folders, icons, widgets, and shortcuts. I only ever dive into the app drawer for the odd app I rarely used but like Calculator.
If you click Menu > List it'll alphabetise it and you can scroll using the bar too!

Just want to give a couple of suggestions for sites to check out to keep up-to-date on Android news.
www.engadget.com - Sure, they cover a vast number of topics but I find that they report a lot of the top Android news as well. Plus, it's always good to stay informed with other tech stuff.
www.pocketnow.com - These guys used to be strictly a Windows Mobile site. But they've since expanded their coverage to include Android and Apple stuff. Lots of good videos on their youtube channel.
www.androidcentral.com - Strictly Android-only site. They give decent App recommendations from time to time.

Quick question - when I pull the power to my phone (say after charging @ night) - it turns on! Any setting to keep it from turning itself on when I pull the power out?

I've never had it turn on if it was off!

WP7 notification system is no better than iOS

Before I got my WP7 phone, the general consensus I was getting is that the notification system was better than iOS, yet worse than Android.
Now that I'm using the phone I can't really figure out what exactly is better about the notification system?
Is there some kind of Android-like notification cache that allows you to view recently ignored notifications? As far as I can tell the only improvement over iOS is that the notifications are out of the way (rather than popping up right in the center of the screen) and that they can be seen on the lock screen.

I disagree. I find WP7 to be the best and I think it will only get better with time. Android is too primitive and gets out of control quickly -kind of like Android the OS is.
But I agree, a nice list of recent notifications would be useful.
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In what way is it better than iOS?
The only advantage seems to be the lock screen notifications. Aside from that I'm not sure in what way it's better than iOS.

Well I believe the Live Tiles help you with the notifications. If you miss one, it will most likely be on the tile. Yea, it does kinda suck if the app that uses notifications doesn't use the live tile but that's up to the developer. But also sucks that if the application that notified you isn't on your main screen, you won't know. So I understand your frustration. The main notifications you would want are text messages, emails, and phone calls, which you said are on the lock screen. I guess Microsoft will have to grow from there.

For me it's the Live Tiles that does it - they provide instant notification.
The toast notifications on the other hand are really a waste of space if you ask me, they don't stay on-screen for long enough to action. In most cases I'll hear the toast coming in with my phone in my pocket, and by the time I pull the phone out all I see is the notification sliding away to the side - we really need something like Android's system for these.

I was hoping there would be something like Android's notification shade. Some kind of central repository for notifications. It completely changes the way you handle notifications.

I don't find it annoying, it isn't in your face like iOS. Plus, you can't dismiss them in iOS.
The lockscreen notification really does it for me. Since there is a dedicated icon for every notification, I can note where to go.
geoken said:
I was hoping there would be something like Android's notification shade. Some kind of central repository for notifications. It completely changes the way you handle notifications.
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webOS, their notification system is better than Android's to be honest.

canadariot2312 said:
I don't find it annoying, it isn't in your face like iOS. Plus, you can't dismiss them in iOS.
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I'm fairly certain you can dismiss it in iOS. On the lock screen you can't dismiss it, but if you get a notification for a text message while using the phone you have the option to reply or dismiss.

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I'm fairly certain you can dismiss it in iOS. On the lock screen you can't dismiss it, but if you get a notification for a text message while using the phone you have the option to reply or dismiss.
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A swipe to the right on the notification bar dismisses them on WP7, it is quite quick.

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A swipe to the right on the notification bar dismisses them on WP7, it is quite quick.
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I was just responding to a comment above that was saying notifications couldn't be dismissed on iOS. I wasn't suggesting that notifications couldn't be dismissed in WP7, sorry if it came off like that.

WP7 doesn't interrupt your workflow. The fact that the notification takes over the entire phone when you get one on iOS is ridiculous.
I agree with Android > WP7 > iOS in the notification department.

all windows phone needs is a full down notification system like android has (or perhaps a swipe to a third left screen). on this screen it could show more then just notifications but also a full time line of everything related... phone calls made/received/missed, messages received/sent, calendar appointments, alarms, etc. aggregate them all together into one scrolling view.
though it could be a bit overly cluttered, but would provide for a great way to absorb everything in a time line format on your screen.

Android-Oh, I'll just unlock the phone, slide my laggy lock screen, wait for the page to pull up entirely, slide down the notification bar, oh what's that? a text? ok, ill pull up the app via that notification and wait for it to load. Way too many taps for me if its quicker on another os... and like others have said, iOS just encompasses too much of the screen.

The Gate Keeper said:
all windows phone needs is a full down notification system like android has (or perhaps a swipe to a third left screen). on this screen it could show more then just notifications but also a full time line of everything related... phone calls made/received/missed, messages received/sent, calendar appointments, alarms, etc. aggregate them all together into one scrolling view.
though it could be a bit overly cluttered, but would provide for a great way to absorb everything in a time line format on your screen.
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I definitely second this one. Another screen for the notifs would be brilliant.

Let's say there is a notification on the live tile. Then, after another notification comes, does the one that was there before go away?

LIVE tile notifications not working.
Recently all the apps that have LIVE tile notification have stopped working on my WP7.
These include Beezzapp, Flixster and WeatherBug - they haven't worked for over 3 weeks now. The pre-installed notifications still work.
Anyone else been experiencing the same problem?

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Recently all the apps that have LIVE tile notification have stopped working on my WP7.
These include Beezzapp, Flixster and WeatherBug - they haven't worked for over 3 weeks now. The pre-installed notifications still work.
Anyone else been experiencing the same problem?
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weatherbug I've experienced, gone back to the weather channel app. Got rid of beezz, decided sesmic was better. Flixster isn't on my home screen so I can't comment.

You guys make it seem like WP7 saves notifications (I'm talking about toast notifications here, the ones appearing at the top of your screen) until you "action" them (either by tapping it or sliding it to the side) - is this really how it is supposed to work because it doesn't for me.
Let's say I have my phone locked on the desk next to me and a toast comes thru, all that seems to happen for me is - screen turns on, displays the notification at the top and unless I touch the screen it turns back off within a few seconds. If I then go on to turn on the display again the notification is gone.
The same happens if the phone is unlocked, with the screen on, when receiving a toast - the notification is displayed for a few seconds but unless I tap it or slide it to the side it disappears itself within a few seconds.
For example, I have toasts activated in Beezz, but I hardly ever get to see the notification because in the time it takes me to get to my phone (it may be in my pocket or behind me) the notification is already gone. At which point I can only guess that it was a Twitter mention/message, tap Beezz, wait for it to load the feed and tap mentions/messages.
Are you all saying it works differently for you guys? If so, is there a setting somewhere? Cause I'm seeing this behaviour on three different devices.

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Android-Oh, I'll just unlock the phone, slide my laggy lock screen, wait for the page to pull up entirely, slide down the notification bar, oh what's that? a text? ok, ill pull up the app via that notification and wait for it to load. Way too many taps for me if its quicker on another os... and like others have said, iOS just encompasses too much of the screen.
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I don't see how it's any faster one WP7?
First off, most Android phones have LED's for notifications so you're already a step ahead.
Secondly, you can see the notification bar while you're on the lockscreen in Android so that matches WP7's lockscreen icons. WP7 has an advantage were the lockscreen notifications give you more info (i.e. number of emails and calendar appointment) but Android makes up for it by allowing third party apps to push notifications to the notification bar and by extension the lockscreen.
Finally, once the phones unlocked I don't see where WP7's advantage is. In WP7 I now need to go in and individually click on the icons of the various apps to check my email or texts or missed calls. This is no different from Android except Android will let me pull down the notification shade which will give me handy shortcuts to all the apps with notifications. If you think the extra action of pulling down the notification shade is such a tremendous waste of time you can simply skip it and just tap the email icon or messaging icon, at which point the amount of actions you've taken is exactly identical to what you would have done with WP7.

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I'm fairly certain you can dismiss it in iOS. On the lock screen you can't dismiss it, but if you get a notification for a text message while using the phone you have the option to reply or dismiss.
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Blah, I was using iOS and the notification system is kind of bad on the lockscreen.
Apparently BlackBerry OS is similar to Android's approach. Android's notification system, although cool, still can't hold a candle to webOS. I don't want a notification system that takes up the whole screen.

[Concept][08/01] Android 4.0 Concept User Interface Improvements

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I'll be designing various UI concept improvements for Android and I'll keep them uploaded here.
If you have any ideas then please, let me know
8th January - Notification Concept Improvements Part 1
My first concept interface is done and ready for viewing - as well as feedback and comments.
This concept goes over some of my notification concepts which I feel would make Android a little more functional and fluid. Let me know what you think.
This user interface concept improvement video covers 3 simply tweaks, which I feel improve the functionality of Android.
1) Bigger Notifications
These bigger notifications show the contact picture,and are large enough so the message can be read. They appear over the top of the default notification bar to save space.
Clicking on the notification takes you to the application for which the notification is for. In this case, its the Messaging App
2) Quick Reply
Something I feel that has been missing from Android for some time. When the message arrive, clicking on the message itself will open quick reply.
Quick Reply extends the notification area so you can reply to the message right from the notification area, without leaving the application you are currently in.
3) Swipe to Close/Mark
Notifications have already easy to close in Android by either pressing the 'X' or in Android 4.0, by swiping the notification away.
However, there is no way to mark a message or email as read if you close it from the notification area. This concept means that you can do this. Simply wipe the notification to the left to close it, or swipe it to the right to mark it as read and close it.
There were 2 other videos that didn't make it into the final video - the only reason for this is that they are longer and the size of the video came to about 600mb for a HD one. Hence why they were left out of this video.
You can find more information about these at this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21179299&postcount=62
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All feedback and comments are welcome. Feel free to message me on any of the sites above.
These are just concepts, unfortunately I dont have the coding skills required to make this a reality. However if I can get ideas and make concepts up, a dev from the forums, the cyanogen mode team or perhaps Google themselves if we're lucky will see this and help make them become a reality.
If you would like to incorporate these ideas into a ROM, application etc, then please contact me first
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Honestly there isn't much I'd change right now. I haven't noticed much that I would change.
In terms of performance, they NEED to fix the autorotate function. Yes, it's nice now that it shows an animation, but it takes waaaay too long to rotate. This was the same gripe I had with Honeycomb tablets. I'm positive that it's intentional by Google, because other phone running ICS with skins rotate faster (I have a Sensation to compare).
This second one is gonna get a bit long.
Second, they need to change the response time of the recent apps button. After extended use and several apps running, there will be a slight delay between pressing the button and the list opening up. I'm actually fine with the fact that there's a delay, it's just where the delay is. The way it runs is you touch the button, there's a delay(lag, whatever you want to call it), then the phone vibrates, the button lights up, and the list comes up. What google needs to do is change the way it functions. Make sure the haptic feedback functions and the button lights up the instant your finger touches it. Then it can delay and the list can come up. In other words G needs to make the illumination and haptic feedback first priority. Then it could work on the multitasking process.
I think if it was done in this manner, the lag would be much less noticeable. It's the same as showing some sort of screen or animation when starting an app. If you touch an app and nothing happens (the screen doesn't change at all, not even a press animation) until the apps fully loaded and running it'll be seen as lag. If you touch an app and immediately see a loading screen or an animation (just examples) then you know the app started up already, and it's perceived as loading instead of lag.
Phew. That was a mouthful. It needed to be said. Come on now Google. All of both of these are just a little tweak in software. Entirely doable. Or maybe it's already done. I don't know for sure since I'm still running 4.0.1
Other than that ICS is great.
EDIT: oh and Google should change the notification to mirror that of tablets. I don't see why they removed the quick settings; it seems unlike them. Just the basics like in Honeycomb: wifi toggle, brightness, bluetooth and autorotate. I've seen mods include it, so I'm sure they could come up with an elegant solution

They need to add the ability to get rid of the Google Search bar on all homescreens or make it less intrusive on the homescreen.

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All,
Just doing a bit of research.
Even though we all love Android, its still got its gripes. One of those for me is that the interface isn't as fluid or as function as it could be.
As many of you have seen ICS now, what type of enhancements to the interface would you like to see?
To give you an idea of what i'm after: I personally still dont like the notifications. I feel that they are a bit limited as to whats on offer, so I would like to see more function added to them
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Fixing notifications is easy. Just drag and drop custom sounds into notifications, alarm and ringtones folder. Using same nokia notification for text ever since my first smartphone. I have the usual buzzer alarm since ics didnt include it. I would also like option of no search bar or at least pinning it to desired homescreen. It would be nice if google included more in house options for themes, colors and backgrounds. Sms, gmail, calendar and email are ridiculously white. I'd like more black background white text options. We also need a toggle for the gpu clocks or coolbho3000 to hook us up in setcpu. Options for amount of home screens. 32GB and/or micro sd. Better clock options. Damn pogo pins car dock already.
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.

tsunami1609 said:
Honestly there isn't much I'd change right now. I haven't noticed much that I would change.
In terms of performance, they NEED to fix the autorotate function. Yes, it's nice now that it shows an animation, but it takes waaaay too long to rotate. This was the same gripe I had with Honeycomb tablets. I'm positive that it's intentional by Google, because other phone running ICS with skins rotate faster (I have a Sensation to compare).
This second one is gonna get a bit long.
Second, they need to change the response time of the recent apps button. After extended use and several apps running, there will be a slight delay between pressing the button and the list opening up. I'm actually fine with the fact that there's a delay, it's just where the delay is. The way it runs is you touch the button, there's a delay(lag, whatever you want to call it), then the phone vibrates, the button lights up, and the list comes up. What google needs to do is change the way it functions. Make sure the haptic feedback functions and the button lights up the instant your finger touches it. Then it can delay and the list can come up. In other words G needs to make the illumination and haptic feedback first priority. Then it could work on the multitasking process.
I think if it was done in this manner, the lag would be much less noticeable. It's the same as showing some sort of screen or animation when starting an app. If you touch an app and nothing happens (the screen doesn't change at all, not even a press animation) until the apps fully loaded and running it'll be seen as lag. If you touch an app and immediately see a loading screen or an animation (just examples) then you know the app started up already, and it's perceived as loading instead of lag.
Phew. That was a mouthful. It needed to be said. Come on now Google. All of both of these are just a little tweak in software. Entirely doable. Or maybe it's already done. I don't know for sure since I'm still running 4.0.1
Other than that ICS is great.
EDIT: oh and Google should change the notification to mirror that of tablets. I don't see why they removed the quick settings; it seems unlike them. Just the basics like in Honeycomb: wifi toggle, brightness, bluetooth and autorotate. I've seen mods include it, so I'm sure they could come up with an elegant solution
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Stole the words out of my mouth. It sounds like nit-pickey stuff but it really would bring it all together nicely.

tsunami1609 said:
Honestly there isn't much I'd change right now. I haven't noticed much that I would change.
In terms of performance, they NEED to fix the autorotate function. Yes, it's nice now that it shows an animation, but it takes waaaay too long to rotate. This was the same gripe I had with Honeycomb tablets. I'm positive that it's intentional by Google, because other phone running ICS with skins rotate faster (I have a Sensation to compare).
This second one is gonna get a bit long.
Second, they need to change the response time of the recent apps button. After extended use and several apps running, there will be a slight delay between pressing the button and the list opening up. I'm actually fine with the fact that there's a delay, it's just where the delay is. The way it runs is you touch the button, there's a delay(lag, whatever you want to call it), then the phone vibrates, the button lights up, and the list comes up. What google needs to do is change the way it functions. Make sure the haptic feedback functions and the button lights up the instant your finger touches it. Then it can delay and the list can come up. In other words G needs to make the illumination and haptic feedback first priority. Then it could work on the multitasking process.
I think if it was done in this manner, the lag would be much less noticeable. It's the same as showing some sort of screen or animation when starting an app. If you touch an app and nothing happens (the screen doesn't change at all, not even a press animation) until the apps fully loaded and running it'll be seen as lag. If you touch an app and immediately see a loading screen or an animation (just examples) then you know the app started up already, and it's perceived as loading instead of lag.
Phew. That was a mouthful. It needed to be said. Come on now Google. All of both of these are just a little tweak in software. Entirely doable. Or maybe it's already done. I don't know for sure since I'm still running 4.0.1
Other than that ICS is great.
EDIT: oh and Google should change the notification to mirror that of tablets. I don't see why they removed the quick settings; it seems unlike them. Just the basics like in Honeycomb: wifi toggle, brightness, bluetooth and autorotate. I've seen mods include it, so I'm sure they could come up with an elegant solution
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Your second point is fixed in 4.0.3
I agree with the OP I hope google does something new with the notifications.
Even just adding them to the lockscreen like iOS would be awesome
I also dislike how the notifications have a character limit, it would be cool if you had the dropdown open long enough the text would scroll

- I'd love to have swiping away a text or email mark it as read. And while we're on notifications I don't get why contact pics don't display in the drop-down bar for texts, only for emails.
- Swiping away a recent app actually kills it
- Option to easily switch between the phone & people apps
- Option to mute shutter sound right in camera menu
- Notification bar toggles like in CyanogenMod or AOKP

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- I'd love to have swiping away a text or email mark it as read. And while we're on notifications I don't get why contact pics don't display in the drop-down bar for texts, only for emails.
- Swiping away a recent app actually kills it
- Option to easily switch between the phone & people apps
- Option to mute shutter sound right in camera menu
- Notification bar toggles like in CyanogenMod or AOKP
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Swiping away apps actually does kill them, you can see the process dying in the logs when removing from recent app list

I would like a new SMS app theme. The current one is pretty ugly. Something like Windows Phone 7's messaging theme would be much nicer.

BlackDino said:
Your second point is fixed in 4.0.3
I agree with the OP I hope google does something new with the notifications.
Even just adding them to the lockscreen like iOS would be awesome
I also dislike how the notifications have a character limit, it would be cool if you had the dropdown open long enough the text would scroll
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The reason I ask is im just doing a concept design for ICS. Not a custom launcher but actual improvements to stock.
For notifications i actually meant the looks and functionality of it. The first concept ive done is to change how the text notifications work.
I don't like the character limit or how restrictive it is, so I've changed it.
Hopefully when I've got my concepts together, someone will be able to help make them a reality, be it a dev, the cyanogen team or google themselves lol.
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I would really like a change to the lockscreen while listening to music. I want the bottom half of the screen to be transparent, or to show the wallpaper instead of beeing black. I have been searching through SystemUI, framework-res and android.policy.jar to try and find it, but haven't as of yet.

tristan202 said:
I would really like a change to the lockscreen while listening to music. I want the bottom half of the screen to be transparent, or to show the wallpaper instead of beeing black. I have been searching through SystemUI, framework-res and android.policy.jar to try and find it, but haven't as of yet.
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Do you mean where the soft buttons would sit?
You'd like to see music controls in there?
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Soft button area supporting gestures
I came to Android from webOS after HP shot themselves in the foot several times and one of the things I miss most is the gesture bar you had at the bottom of the screen. With the advent of the soft button area in ICS I see a real option to enable the area to work in a similar fashion.
For those that are unfamiliar with it it's basically an area at the bottom of the screen blocked off from apps that registers simple finger gestures. This made the basics of actually using a device a breeze and pleasure i.e. no looking for a particular button / tapping the wrong button when you weren't looking and the gestures were consistent no matter what app was running.
The gestures were:
A single swipe up would show you your running apps.
Swiping 2 fingers up would show you the launcher (app drawer).
A leftward swipe would go back.
A full swipe across the entire area going either right or left would take you to the next or previous running app.
Besides the wireless charging the gesture area was one of the webOS killer features you very quickly learned to take for-granted. So yeah, I'd like the soft button area to handle gestures in case you haven't guessed already

Northernmost said:
I came to Android from webOS after HP shot themselves in the foot several times and one of the things I miss most is the gesture bar you had at the bottom of the screen. With the advent of the soft button area in ICS I see a real option to enable the area to work in a similar fashion.
For those that are unfamiliar with it it's basically an area at the bottom of the screen blocked off from apps that registers simple finger gestures. This made the basics of actually using a device a breeze and pleasure i.e. no looking for a particular button / tapping the wrong button when you weren't looking and the gestures were consistent no matter what app was running.
The gestures were:
A single swipe up would show you your running apps.
Swiping 2 fingers up would show you the launcher (app drawer).
A leftward swipe would go back.
A full swipe across the entire area going either right or left would take you to the next or previous running app.
Besides the wireless charging the gesture area was one of the webOS killer features you very quickly learned to take for-granted. So yeah, I'd like the soft button area to handle gestures in case you haven't guessed already
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Ok ill see what I can mock up. I've done a basic notification text, just need to add another feature before i finalise it
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Go you! I was hoping this was something Matias Duarte would bring to Android himself.

Evostance said:
Do you mean where the soft buttons would sit?
You'd like to see music controls in there?
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No, it's the black part of this screenshot I'd like changed.
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tristan202 said:
No, it's the black part of this screenshot I'd like changed.
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Oh wow. Thats actually what it looks like when playing music
I think that black part may be for album art?

Evostance said:
Oh wow. Thats actually what it looks like when playing music
I think that black part may be for album art?
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No, it just shows the album art at the very top. Up where the media buttons are.

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No, it just shows the album art at the very top. Up where the media buttons are.
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How stupid. Definitely a tweak that should be there

Honestly, the only two things I want to be changed in terms of the UI are
1.) The ability to hide the soft keys at will for example, if I'm playing a game I want to be able to utilize the entire screen. I think a gesture to hide + bring back the soft keys is the solution. Highly unlikely to be implemented anytime soon
2.) Such as many launchers which have the functionality to have scrollable docks, I would like the soft keys to be scrollable. It would be pretty awesome to be able to have different toggles such as wifi, Bluetooth and even apps always available since unlike the notification bar, the soft keys never disappear regardless of the current app.
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[IDEA][REQUEST] Notification Alert application

Hi All,
I am not a developer and I was wondering if its possible with the new SDK from Heathcliff74 and the fully unlocked roms to develop an application that will use sounds to alert us of a new "missed call", "sms", "calendar event" and so on... This must be customizable as to how many times to alert us, what sound to use, maybe a scheduler for this to run. The alert should go off as soon as you see the missed call or read the new sms.
I think a utility like this will be very useful. What do you think??? Any developers out there that can give us some info if this is possible?
If this is posted to the wrong place please move.
Thanks. GIPAQ

Sound looks great ---> I think we use event toast notification with sound alert for Miss call, Fully charge battery, and etc

I'd rather have Microsoft implementing something like a notification center.
I know I saw a thread a while back that had an example that would work perfect, that if you swipe left at the tiles you'll get something like Androids or iOSs notification center.
But I think Microsoft is satisfied with the live tiles, which is kinda sad. A "real" notification center would be better than anything.
Regards
Izaac

IzaacJ said:
I'd rather have Microsoft implementing something like a notification center.
I know I saw a thread a while back that had an example that would work perfect, that if you swipe left at the tiles you'll get something like Androids or iOSs notification center.
But I think Microsoft is satisfied with the live tiles, which is kinda sad. A "real" notification center would be better than anything.
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Izaac
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Agreed

Active Display App

There is a cool app for Active display feature: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.knock.knock.plus&hl=en
But according to it the active display feature wouldn't work exactly the way it works on Motorola where only the notification part lights up, because it needs Amoled display while P6 got IPS display. Other than that it works fine and those who want to see notification and messages directly can use this until hopefully Huawei comes with its own. A slight annoying problem though is that the bottom grey navigation bar shows up and covers part of the screen. On the google play, they have showed it working on a Nexus 4 and no navigation bar shows up in such way. So i don't know yet how to get it in full screen without navigation bar on the P6.

See screenshot of how it shows up. Is there a fix to this ? Or should this be given as feedback to Huawei for their upgrade, so that third party apps don't have this problem when running on p6 ?

I have tried a couple of notification apps namely: The above "Knock2", Active Notify, Dynamic Notifications and NotifierPro
My observations:
- The easiest yet efficient layout of all is the one Motorola came out with. This is because in case of the MOTO all work ( read notification without unlocking, go to app, dismiss, turnoff screen or unlock screen) can all be done within a long press+swipe option i.e., one touch. But in case of Knock2 app, you need two distinct touches which makes it slower. The notifierpro comes second, as the message can be read and dismissed as well as accessed in one touch or swipe, but this one got no option to tun off screen or choose to read notification from multiple apps.
- The notifierpro app has two advantages.
1) The app can function both within a lock screen as well as outside a lock screen. While in case of other apps, it just functions for the lock screen. The notifierpro app also got all the options like screen awakening as well other useful customization's and hence makes needless the other notification apps.
2) This app does not sacrifice the Huawei or Android lock screen while in case of others, it takes over the lock screen. Some might actually like this as they dont like the default lock screens, but in case of those wanting customization's, shortcuts, widgets, guest login mode, etc, on lock screen, this would be a problem.
- All these notification apps got the following faults:
In case of detailed reading of the message, only the first message can be read. When the second message reaches, it shows up as "2 new message" etc and no ability to read it.
None of these apps synchronize with the android notification panel. In fact, all these apps just beam the same message that is shown on the android top bar. All you can do is dismiss the message that is beamed, but it still remains on the android notification panel as well as the top bar. And if one was to use the Huawei lock screen ( not the password lock), one can bring down the notification panel from the lock screen and access notifications and apps directly from there. So if the android was to merely allow awakening, it can do all the tasks that these apps do, by the android notification panel itself. The android notification panel can in fact do much more.
And finally the whole idea of such notifications would clash with privacy, in case someone else was to use the phone. So there should be a quick toggle option to Allow/Not allow the detail reading of messages or turn off this notification function.
Now the real deal is in someone creating an app combining the advantage of all, yet keeping it simple Anyone with bright ideas for your Huawei Emotion UI upgrade ?.
My suggestion is to go for notifierpro layout but with added options:
1) Ability to turn off screen after dismissing, in lockscreen mode.
2) Read multiple notifications from single app as well as multiple apps. Reading multiple notifications from a single app can be done by swiping the pop up in a left/right direction that switches to the next or previous messages. While reading notifications on multiple apps can be done by having separate popups open in layers of rows.
3) Synchronize with android notification by one level i.e., synchronized with the top bar. So dismissing a notification should remove it from the top bar, but yet available within the slide down notification panel. So one could dismiss something for now from the pop up and decide to later access notification panel and read them all.
4) Toggle on/off button in notification panel to quick turn on/off the active/pop up notification.
Remember that P6 don't have an Amoled screen, so the layout of the MOTO is not really useful for the P6. So this idea of having first two small icons of the apps shown from which one is to be touched and accessed, isn't really useful because in the IPS display the whole screen is going to be awakened anyway and not just the small icons being awakened in case of amoled screen. So when that is the case, then more of the screen should be taken advantage, so its better to have the detailed message directly pop up on screen as the notifierpro does. This is also minimalist and no need to have the whole lockscreen changed, and this gives advantage of having pop ups even outside the lock screen.