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Mi Mix 2 on T-Mobile

Is Mi Mix 2 works on US T-Mobile for VOLTE and WiFi Calling?
Thanks in advance.

It should

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I just want to make sure since it comes from overseas and not sold officially in states.

Yes, existing services will work, however the SIM card for the account with the services has to be activated on a network approved/issued phone. If not, you will need to call support. If you've used volte before bringing the phone onto the network, it will work from their end though you may have to change the settings on the device. If you are trying to activate a new service with the phone, you will need to call T-Mobile.

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Yes, existing services will work, however the SIM card for the account with the services has to be activated on a network approved/issued phone. If not, you will need to call support. If you've used volte before bringing the phone onto the network, it will work from their end though you may have to change the settings on the device. If you are trying to activate a new service with the phone, you will need to call T-Mobile.
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Thanks. How about wifi calling?

Same as volte or other features. If a network service/feature has been active/used on the network before the new phone was brought to the network, it's all good from the carrier end.

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Same as volte or other features. If a network service/feature has been active/used on the network before the new phone was brought to the network, it's all good from the carrier end.
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I don't think thats a correct statement. I have VOLTE and wifi calling on my current phone. But when I got Xperia XZ premium mone of those features worked.

daviddem said:
I don't think thats a correct statement. I have VOLTE and wifi calling on my current phone. But when I got Xperia XZ premium mone of those features worked.
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You misunderstood. If you put a SIM into a network issued or supported phone, typically the services that are already active will work right away. However if you bring a phone to the network that is not sold by the carrier, chances are you will have to call them to get the services working.
Some carriers are setup in a way that inserting a new sim into a phone unknown to the network won't work, some or all services may be disabled but if you put the new sim into a recognized device first, the sim and it's services will be active and you can just transfer it to the unrecognized phone. Of course, that may not be enough, modifying APN settings on the phone for example may be needed to get it running

I'm going to cut my monthly bill in half by switching to project fi and I'm sharing my plan here though it will work and/or make sense for very few users out there.
It only makes sense to do this if you are already on T-Mobile's network and you pull less than 2GB from the LTE network. This is due to the low base cost but high bandwidth prices through project fi. If you are a heavy data user and you don't pull the bandwidth from wifi, project fi plan would cost more than the T-Mobile you're on.
Next up, you need one of these 6 devices:
Pixel XL Model G-2PW2100 (North American version)
Pixel Model G-2PW4100 (North American version)
Android One Moto X4 (All versions)
Nexus 5X Model LGH790 (North American version)
Nexus 6P Model H1511 (North American version)
Nexus 6 Model XT1103 (North American version)
While you can use most phones on project fi, (all phones that already work on T-Mobile will do) only these 6 phones can activate a project fi sim. If you don't already have one, you don't need to buy them, you can just borrow one from a friend however they can be used to activate a fi sim only once, after the activation that phone won't be able to activate another. Or if you find a damaged phone cheap, it only needs to be able to connect to the internet, read a sim and it's touch screen is still working, you can do that. Nexus and pixel phones with shattered screens sell as low as $50, you just need it activate it the sim. If you don't pull lots of data, you recover the cost in 2 billing cycles.
Project fi works by having a physical T-Mobile SIM, virtual Sprint SIM (it supports up to 10 virtual SIM cards) and it connects to an array of wifi networks in urban areas throughout the US. A fully compatible project fi phone connects to all of them, other phones aren't compatible with the virtual SIMs so they are limited to T-Mobile's network, so if you are a T-Mobile user, nothing changes except the reduction in monthly bill (provided you don't pull lots of data through T-Mobile.
Now this is where the mix 2 comes in. It's compatible with all but the T-Mobile band 71 but I wouldn't get excited about that anytime soon, by the time T-Mobile fully deploys it's 600 MHz band, today's flagships will have reached end of life anyway, it's something to consider once mix 3 or mix 4 are out. I suspect that the Mix 2 is capable of utilizing both T-Mobile's and Sprint network due it's array of compatible bands but I won't know for sure until next week. Even if it's not, using the mix 2 through T-Mobile's network only at a reduced cost is still a good deal.

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I'm going to cut my monthly bill in half by switching to project fi and I'm sharing my plan here though it will work and/or make sense for very few users out there.
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You would be better off switching to http://www.mintsim.com
The 2Gb, and unless you are extremely miserly on Data, the 5Gb plan will be cheaper than Project Fi. Mint is on T-mobile, and owned and operated by UltraMobile. You do have to buy several months at once, so that is a downside, but if you can afford the outlay of cash, it is a very inexpensive service. I personally just switched from Project Fi, and have been happy with the service.

That is a good alternative too. Ting is also an option for those wanting to reduce their bills. I live in an urban area and project fi is the only viable alternative for me, all the local MVNO's get blatantly deprioritized.

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Thanks. How about wifi calling?
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T-Mobile's WiFi Calling will not be baked into the Mi Mix 2, there for you won't have the ability to use it. T-Mobile requires a WiFi certification through them that the phone manufacture must pay for and provide units for testings in order to receive their certification. Although the Mi Mix 2 has every band supported that T-Mobile uses outside of the new 600MHx band 71 and extended band 4 on band 66, it will work fine for calling and texting but no WiFi Calling.

Can anyone confirm volte works on T-Mobile? Thanks!
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Ulver said:
Can anyone confirm volte works on T-Mobile? Thanks!
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VoLTE works on MintSIM, which is an MVNO on T-Mobile.

Has anyone used it with actual T-Mobile and can confirm it's working? Or is it guaranteed to work with actual T-Mobile if it works on a T-Mobile MVNO? Thanks guys!

I am in Australia on Telstra, on my Redmi 3 it used to drop from LTE to 3G when making a call.
Now is says 4G+ even during a call, on my MI Mix 2
When I turn on Volte is says HD next to 4G+, when I turn off Volte the HD disapears, I guess HD stands for High Definition?

FMXP said:
Has anyone used it with actual T-Mobile and can confirm it's working? Or is it guaranteed to work with actual T-Mobile if it works on a T-Mobile MVNO? Thanks guys!
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Yes,I got the MIX2 two days ago,have used it w/LTE Bands 4 & 12.
VoLTE is built-in/switchable on/off,AFAICT,no WI-FI Calling.
From my limited use,it all works well (calls/text),connects to WI-FI very quickly,stays connected.
Data signal seems to work well also,turned off WI-FI to test weak T-Mobile signal when @ home,found/stayed connected to Band 12 w/no problem.

There is no WiFi Calling option in this phone (I just got one) ?

toiday said:
There is no WiFi Calling option in this phone (I just got one) ?
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WiFi Calling for T-Mo ile is enabled on a certified device by T-Mobile when a T-Mobile SIM is detected. The Mi MIX 2 has not submitted a request for testing and has not paid for the certification process to have T-Mobile WiFi Calling enabled. Xiaomi is not marketing the device towards the U.S. market so there will not be any T-Mobile WiFi Calling on the Mi MIX 2.

toiday said:
There is no WiFi Calling option in this phone (I just got one) ?
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Wifi calling works if you use Google Voice.

Verizon certification

With the poor support of the U11 from Verizon, I was worried about the U12+. That is until I found this on their open development site...
It's been certified for all bands, not just 13.

So that screenshot shows the bands that are NOT supported/certified? I'm thinking it should work...they've had on their online sales webpage that the unlocked works on VZW as well.
*The unlocked HTC U12+ is compatible with AT&T, T‑Mobile and Verizon Networks.

whats band 5???

techlogik said:
So that screenshot shows the bands that are NOT supported/certified? I'm thinking it should work...they've had on their online sales webpage that the unlocked works on VZW as well.
*The unlocked HTC U12+ is compatible with AT&T, T‑Mobile and Verizon Networks.
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No, this shows that bands that are certified. The U11 is also "compatible" with Verizon, but what they didn't tell you was that it was limited to band 13.

oneandroidnut said:
whats band 5???
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I've seen a few people that were on band 5, but I don't remember where it was.

oneandroidnut said:
whats band 5???
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In S. Calif, Band 5 is a new one that you see as often as 2, 4, and 13.
I use a Play Store app called Network Cell Info. While driving, you can see
which band is connected, and on another tab, you can see a map with cell towers as you pass them.

Verizon Variant
Will the unlocked 128GB variant be compatible with Verizon? Specifically will the Verizon Wireless app and the Verizon Cloud app be compatible for this device? Also will the carrier voicemail be compatible? I have heard of some issues with all of these on the U11 which was unlocked but "compatible" with Verizon.

NiteVibe said:
Will the unlocked 128GB variant be compatible with Verizon? Specifically will the Verizon Wireless app and the Verizon Cloud app be compatible for this device? Also will the carrier voicemail be compatible? I have heard of some issues with all of these on the U11 which was unlocked but "compatible" with Verizon.
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I'm not sure about the apps. I wasn't able to get them on the U11.

michaelbsheldon said:
In S. Calif, Band 5 is a new one that you see as often as 2, 4, and 13.
I use a Play Store app called Network Cell Info. While driving, you can see
which band is connected, and on another tab, you can see a map with cell towers as you pass them.
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Interesting I use LTE Discovery and never seen it here in ohio just 2,4 & 13

oneandroidnut said:
whats band 5???
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Band 5 is cellular 850mhz. Mostly used by Verizon and At&t Nationwide for legacy networks. In the last year or two these frequencies have been getting repurposed for LTE.

My biggest question is will this support Verizon's Wifi Calling as I live in a cell dead spot and also have service issues occasionally at work when in the basement of the building but wifi calling with my HTC 10 has been great for both of those issues, the U11 did not support Verizon wifi calling.

Has anybody picked up a U12+ on Verizon yet? Care to share your experience so far?

My order is released pending fulfillment as of this morning for the Verizon variant 64gb translucent blue.

evilevn said:
My biggest question is will this support Verizon's Wifi Calling as I live in a cell dead spot and also have service issues occasionally at work when in the basement of the building but wifi calling with my HTC 10 has been great for both of those issues, the U11 did not support Verizon wifi calling.
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no wifi calling on vzw... https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76872041&postcount=15

OMJ said:
no wifi calling on vzw... https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76872041&postcount=15
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If that's the worst don't have, I could live with it.

aer0zer0 said:
If that's the worst don't have, I could live with it.
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Should be the same as the U11
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OMJ said:
Should be the same as the U11
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Complete with all the verizon headache to keep activated?

aer0zer0 said:
Complete with all the verizon headache to keep activated?
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yeah I'm not sure about that

For those who used the U11 and are now using if not expecting or thinking about getting this phone.
How overall coverage like without CDMA fall back?
Few weeks ago I road tripped around the west coast and parts of the Midwest and LTE coverage was pretty abudano. However there were times were either CDMA was the only thing available for miles or it was simply faster either because LTE was crowded (city) or weak signal where 3G was stronger (rural).
Few examples were driving around Yosemite, South East Oregon, Southern Montana at times, Yellowstone, and Southern Utah.
Thinking back on it I would've had no service for a few hours in places.

After getting my phone yesterday, I'm happy to report that I've seen bands 2, 4, & 13 while driving around.

Unlocked S20+ with AT&T now shows 5G on Status Bar!!

After this update yesterday my unlocked GS 20+ on AT&T now shows 5G ? I wonder if they opened up anything else?? View attachment 5069969View attachment 5069971
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No such luck. You're most likely seeing 5Ge (with a little 'e' at the end), which is just a marketing gimmick for slightly improved 4G LTE. For example, see https://9to5google.com/2020/05/20/att-5ge-android-icon/.
You won't have real 5G unless you have a get a real (and undoubtedly) expensive 5G phone plan from AT&T.
--Ron

Thanks for your reply, I am fully aware if the 5G evolution gimmick but this shows 5G with no “e” as you can see in the pictures and I do pay for the 5G plan with AT&T...So I was very surprised to see it on an unlocked phone ...crazy stuff
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Your device at least see UpperLayerIndicator from network so that will activate 5G icon. CellMapper App is very good app to show if your phone connected to 5G really or not.
But maybe you just see 5G icon without having 5G-connection. From modem log could check if your device support really AT&T 5G-network: https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g...ons-from-your-android-phone/#Qualcomm_devices

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Your device at least see UpperLayerIndicator from network so that will activate 5G icon. CellMapper App is very good app to show if your phone connected to 5G really or not.
But maybe you just see 5G icon without having 5G-connection. From modem log could check if your device support really AT&T 5G-network: https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g...ons-from-your-android-phone/#Qualcomm_devices
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Wow, love the Cell Mapper app. Am I correct that when you are on the Map setting it shows which direction and area is covered by each cell tower? Example: 2 towers next to each other but one is shaded to the west/northwest and the other is to the East/Northeast ...
And I love how it shows which Bands are supported by each Cell Site ...
Very cool app thanks for suggesting!!
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[VIDEO] How google blocks 5G for unlisted countries (explained)

I made a video explaining how google blocks 5G in the software by default for unlisted countries.
I also tried posting this on reddit at r/googlepixel but mods deleted it.
I think this information should be spread to the wider general public because it affects just about every one of us here, having to root our phones to enable 5G, when this should just be enabled out of the box.
If a phone is advertised as "5G ready", we should expect to be able to connect to our carrier's 5G network out of the box, regardless of being in a "supported country" or not.
This video shows that carrier-google certification is not necessary to connect to your carrier's 5G network.
I wonder if it's possible to file a class action lawsuit because blocking 5G in the software clearly has to be some sort of "misleading" or "false advertising" in terms of the phone being "5G" ready.

You are right , but its not as simple as you are saying , I did the same and still not able to connect or sometimes showing only 5G but speed is less than 3G although my other mobile - Huawei could connect to 5G and speed was incredible and around 700Mbs!
there are other files that need to be modified i believe in.

nfqa said:
You are right , but its not as simple as you are saying , I did the same and still not able to connect or sometimes showing only 5G but speed is less than 3G although my other mobile - Huawei could connect to 5G and speed was incredible and around 700Mbs!
there are other files that need to be modified i believe in.
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There is indeed more to it than just the "5G" addition but this is the absolute minimum google should do to provide a way for everyone to connect to their carrier's basic 5G network. I've looked into other 'certified' mbn carrier_policy files and they have more lines of code specifying which network bands to use etc.
I am in the process of learning those codes by reading through them and finding a way to unpack/edit the stock android image to make those changes, so that a simple fastboot flash would solve the problem for everyone.

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There is indeed more to it than just the "5G" addition but this is the absolute minimum google should do to provide a way for everyone to connect to their carrier's basic 5G network. I've looked into other 'certified' mbn carrier_policy files and they have more lines of code specifying which network bands to use etc.
I am in the process of learning those codes by reading through them and finding a way to unpack/edit the stock android image to make those changes so that a simple fastboot flash would solve the problem for everyone.
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Agree with and was doing the same approach to try to understand the policy file and items, found some policy files for pixel 5 with LTE bands mentioned. i believe there are differences between networks and telecom providers , Google don't want to consume sometime to do comprehensive policy file majority .

I want to do this to be honest (as Pixel will never come to the Philippines, but I managed to get one through some means), but my device is currently enrolled in a BYOD program on my company (VMWare AirWatch) and trying to conceal root can cause more harm than good on my employment (EDIT: word choice).
TL;DR fingers crossed for Google to open up 5G globally instead of selected carriers
I wonder if it's possible to file a class action lawsuit because blocking 5G in the software clearly has to be some sort of "misleading" or "false advertising" in terms of the phone being "5G" ready.
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I hope this can happen, but having 5G Pixel outside of their supported country (both on 5G and Pixel itself) is somewhat not that good to be presented legally as they'll question the legality of the purchase and more legal jibber jabbers

kkshinichi said:
I hope this can happen, but having 5G Pixel outside of their supported country (both on 5G and Pixel itself) is somewhat not that good to be presented legally as they'll question the legality of the purchase and more legal jibber jabbers
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Phones get parallel imported all the time around the world. The "legality of purchase" shouldn't even be a thing.

Question Can I switch to Verizon with this phone?

It seems most of the 4G and 5G bands are compatible. I'm just not sure about 3G with the CDMA vs GSM. My service through TMobile just hasn't been good enough.
Thanks!

2125 should work fine. 2127 may or may not work. The rest will not work

Verizon's network is mostly 4G or newer nowadays. CDMA will be a factor in coverage but it's minor. I occasionally will pop into the Verizon network with a random device if I know it's compatible with the bands Vzw use. Pop in a sim and give it a whirl.

I'm using Verizon on my 2125. My coverage and service speed is way better in my area than it was with TMobile. Calls texts and data all work fine.

Hi, I'm using Verizon with this phone. No issues at all. My phone usually is on the 5g network, sometimes on 4g. Only thing is that voice over wifi does not work. Besides that service is great.

VoWifi doesn't work. I haven't found a way to enable that on Verizon. Everything else works fine for me. Speeds could be better but that's probably just my area.

BillyxAllen said:
Verizon's network is mostly 4G or newer nowadays. CDMA will be a factor in coverage but it's minor. I occasionally will pop into the Verizon network with a random device if I know it's compatible with the bands Vzw use. Pop in a sim and give it a whirl.
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CDMA is not a factor in any LTE or 5G phone. Verizon requires a flag CDMA_Less for this phone. Others that are Verizon phones have that set automatically in the back end. This flag has been required for correct functionality for at least 3 years.

I loved VZW and been with them over a decade. I recently switched to T mobile and it was for one reason only. VZW sold many of their towers and TMobile bought them. Tmo used to suck. Service and customer service. But they did one thing. They offered NR..VZW has already admitted that their 5g is a combination of 4G and 5G. UW is available but you will find that to be very limited. 5G is just a marketing tool. The consumers get the short end of the stick and the lawmakers allow the FCC to change the definition of what 5G speeds are. VZW sells the OnePlus 8 5g, will allow the OP9 and OP 9 pro to work. Also while your phone will work on VZW it will not have the correct radio in it to truly take advantage of 5G. This article will explain it
OnePlus 9 Pro Is Now on Verizon, But You Might Want to Stick With Samsung
Although the OnePlus 9 lineup is now certified for Verizon, spectrum limitations, setup bugs, and other oddities mean that a Samsung handset may be the better choice for those not committed to the OnePlus brand.
www.pcmag.com

Uhhhhh, what? None of that is actually true. And that article doesn't "explain" anything. It's literally not saying anything close to what you are.

Perhaps this will explain it better. There's a reason VZW isn't selling the OP9s. VZW has invested heavily in c-band while T-Mobile is utilizing the low sub 6. The OP9 doesn't have the c- band capabilities since most of the world is doing mm UW and sub 6.too tired to go any further. Most people on VZW had to shut 5g off because of the latency issues. If VZW does indeed sell the Op9 pro it will be c band compatible but will be more expensive to produce. Again I didn't switch to TMobile because VZW did something wrong. I switched because if I'm going to buy a 5g phone in 2021 I want it to work in 5g now not in 2022. VZW is late to the game in true 5G. And they had a net loss of subscribers because of this. Personally I do not like tmo. I don't like their CEO especially so im not knocking VZW.
Verizon 5G coverage map, plans, phones and home internet
Here's where the Verizon 5G network is available and what it will cost you
www.tomsguide.com

Ok guys. I have a LE2125, and I'm using verizon. It works great. Better than it did on t-mobile (Data speed and coverage-wise. Your area may vary). Only issue is there is no VoWifi or VoLTE. Service area and data speeds are great. 5G works. LTE works. LTE+ works. Calls and texts work.

Can I switch galaxy j7 sm-j7ooh to Android 7

Perhaps this will explain it better. There's a reason VZW isn't selling the OP9s. VZW has invested heavily in c-band while T-Mobile is utilizing the low sub 6. The OP9 doesn't have the c- band capabilities since most of the world is doing mm UW and sub 6.too tired to go any further. Most people on VZW had to shut 5g off because of the latency issues.
Verizon 5G coverage map, plans, phones and home internet
Here's where the Verizon 5G network is available and what it will cost you
www.tomsguide.com
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Ok guys. I have a LE2125, and I'm using verizon. It works great. Better than it did on t-mobile (Data speed and coverage-wise. Your area may vary). Only issue is there is no VoWifi or VoLTE. Service area and data speeds are great. 5G works. LTE works. LTE+ works. Calls and texts work.
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Are you in a metro area by any chance?

Creative_Ingenuity said:
Perhaps this will explain it better. There's a reason VZW isn't selling the OP9s. VZW has invested heavily in c-band while T-Mobile is utilizing the low sub 6. The OP9 doesn't have the c- band capabilities since most of the world is doing mm UW and sub 6.too tired to go any further. Most people on VZW had to shut 5g off because of the latency issues.
Verizon 5G coverage map, plans, phones and home internet
Here's where the Verizon 5G network is available and what it will cost you
www.tomsguide.com
Are you in a metro area by any chance?
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No, I am way out in a pretty rural area in NY

Lucky you. I grew up in the Hudson Valley. Now in Florida since 97. Hate it. Wish I was in Rochester. Too many people in Florida. I'm jealous

Creative_Ingenuity said:
Perhaps this will explain it better. There's a reason VZW isn't selling the OP9s. VZW has invested heavily in c-band while T-Mobile is utilizing the low sub 6. The OP9 doesn't have the c- band capabilities since most of the world is doing mm UW and sub 6.too tired to go any further. Most people on VZW had to shut 5g off because of the latency issues. If VZW does indeed sell the Op9 pro it will be c band compatible but will be more expensive to produce. Again I didn't switch to TMobile because VZW did something wrong. I switched because if I'm going to buy a 5g phone in 2021 I want it to work in 5g now not in 2022. VZW is late to the game in true 5G. And they had a net loss of subscribers because of this. Personally I do not like tmo. I don't like their CEO especially so im not knocking VZW.
Verizon 5G coverage map, plans, phones and home internet
Here's where the Verizon 5G network is available and what it will cost you
www.tomsguide.com
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Your post still had no basis in reality whatsoever. I don't give 2 ****s about Verizon, I'm not trying to defend them. I'm just saying you're spreading completely false information.
Here, I'll break it down:
Verizon sold their towers and T-Mobile bought them? That's... just not accurate at all. Are you talking about this?
America Tower: T-Mobile co-locating gear on Verizon towers we bought
American Tower sees a strong future ahead for its portfolio of cell towers it acquired earlier this year from Verizon Wireless, according to an American Tower executive. T-Mobile US, in particular, has been looking to co-locate its network gear on those towers as it expands its LTE network. |...
www.fiercewireless.com
Verizon leased their towers to a 3rd party company who then sublets the towers. You DO realize that each cell tower holds multiple carriers, right?
Tmo used to suck.
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Every carrier has good and bad spots. Where I live, T-Mobile has been on par with Verizon for years. In other areas Verizon sucks. Some areas T-Mobile can't get signal at all.
Service and customer service.
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T-Mobile has been leading customer service metrics for like a decade now. They've actually been going a little downhill since the Sprint takeover, but T-Mobile has been the gold standard for YEARS.
VZW has already admitted that their 5g is a combination of 4G and 5G.
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"admitted". So is T-Mobile in a bunch of areas. And AT&T. Also, you're thinking of SA and NSA (standalone and non-standalone), not NR. NR (New Radio) allows for SA and NSA, and it's a Qualcomm thing, not a Verizon or T-Mobile thing.
5G is just a marketing tool
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I'm not even touching this. This is pure fantasy.
The consumers get the short end of the stick and the lawmakers allow the FCC to change the definition of what 5G speeds are.
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Lawmakers and the FCC don't change "definitions" of "5G speeds". Nobody does. 5G isn't determined by speed at all. 5th Generation connectivity. It's how phones connect to the towers, not what speeds they run at. If you're getting 1mb/s on a 5G tower, does that mean you're on 3G? OF COURSE NOT. Just like if you're connecting at 200mb/s on LTE, that doesn't make you "5G".
Also while your phone will work on VZW it will not have the correct radio in it to truly take advantage of 5G.
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I really don't think you read the article you linked. The only thing the OP 9 and 9 Pro lacks is wifi calling on Verizon. MAYBE you're trying to say the 9 won't connect to MM-Wave while the Pro can, but it's like that on every carrier. The 9 won't connect to T-Mobile's MM-Wave either. Now, the article DOES mention that the 9Pro won't SAY it's on MMWave, because it's missing the ICON. The Icon.
Insiders tell me that OnePlus could fix this by adding a Verizon "icon pack" to its firmware. I've asked OnePlus for comment and I'll update this when I hear back. The phones also don't work with Verizon's Wi-Fi calling feature. There's just no option to turn it on. Verizon tells me there is no plan to add that, at least for now. I've also asked OnePlus about that.
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Seriously, I have no idea what you're trying to get at here. But it's all FUD.
Now, as to your last post:
There's a reason VZW isn't selling the OP9s.
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Yeah, they sold one model and it FLOPPED. Nobody was buying it, so they chose not to have it take up space on their shelves. They still support every model since the 6T on their network.
VZW has invested heavily in c-band while T-Mobile is utilizing the low sub 6. The OP9 doesn't have the c- band capabilities since most of the world is doing mm UW and sub 6.too tired to go any further.
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The C-Band auction literally ended what, 3 months ago? Verizon and T-Mobile don't even plan on rolling it out until late 2022. Why would they sell phones with it NOW? Also, the "rest of the world"? The EU hasn't rolled out MMWave yet, as they just ended the first rounds of spectrum auctions. MOST countries barely have any 5G, if any. And that's fine, because 5G is mainly about capacity, not speed. And they don't need the capacity right now, LTE-A is working fine for them.
Also, you're confusing C-Band with the existing mid-band spectrum that T-Mobile acquired from Sprint, which is used on band 41 and is known as the "faster" 5G (though still slower than MMWave). T-Mobile's low band 5G isn't about speed either, it's about capacity. You're lucky to get over 75mb/s with their low band stuff. Just like Verizon. Go figure. The lower bands have slower speed and reach further, that's just how physics work.
Most people on VZW had to shut 5g off because of the latency issues. If VZW does indeed sell the Op9 pro it will be c band compatible but will be more expensive to produce.
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Again, NO carrier has C-Band deployed right now, and won't be deployed in any large scale for at least a year. Why would they make a 9 Pro with it later on when it will be at least TWO models behind? (The 9T and the 10, possibly the 10T as well)
I switched because if I'm going to buy a 5g phone in 2021 I want it to work in 5g now not in 2022.
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Uhhh, ok. Despite Verizon's 5G speed sucking, and MMWave not being anywhere CLOSE to ready for prime time, it still WORKS. Again, I don't think you understand that there's a separation between 5G and speeds.
they had a net loss of subscribers because of this.
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Verizon has been losing customers to T-Mobile for years now. It doesn't have anything to do with 5G, it's about being priced out of the budget market. They want to focus on ARPU vs number of lines, while T-Mobile took the opposite approach, hence them giving out free lines right before every earnings report.

craznazn said:
2125 should work fine. 2127 may or may not work. The rest will not work
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I have the LE2127 I got straight from TMobile. So maybe a no go?

I believe it should work as long as your phone is unlocked, whether it's a tmo or global phone shouldn't matter much except of course for adding some tmo specific bands.

RootMyNote4Please said:
I have the LE2127 I got straight from TMobile. So maybe a no go?
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the 2125 and the 2127 is basically the same phone. It will work perfectly fine.

entropism said:
the 2125 and the 2127 is basically the same phone. It will work perfectly fine.
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Basically, but not exactly. There's a reason global converted OP9P from tmo must reflash the tmo modem for each OTA.
Since OP already has the 2127, worst case is you give it a shot and see if it works. Maybe it will, may not.