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Low benchmarks compared to Mate 9

I was looking through the reviews and benchmarks on phonearena here and noticed the Honor 8 Pro scores quite a bit less than the Mate 9, also running the Kirin 960. Would that simply be down to the QHD screen on the 8 Pro?
I'm wondering how that would affect things like emulation with Dolphin, where single core performance is quite important. Would it not matter so much as you choose the resolution to render the game at anyway? So it wouldn't be QHD in dolphin or is it a driver setting which would need to be changed like on the Galaxy S8?

Andy4Shurr said:
I was looking through the reviews and benchmarks on phonearena here and noticed the Honor 8 Pro scores quite a bit less than the Mate 9, also running the Kirin 960. Would that simply be down to the QHD screen on the 8 Pro?
I'm wondering how that would affect things like emulation with Dolphin, where single core performance is quite important. Would it not matter so much as you choose the resolution to render the game at anyway? So it wouldn't be QHD in dolphin or is it a driver setting which would need to be changed like on the Galaxy S8?
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Yes, I'd put it down to QHD vs FHD.
As an aside my Honor 8 Pro has UFS 2.1 memory, while my Mate 9 has eMMC - so I'm even happier to be using the Honor as my daily driver. The Mate 9 is great in many ways, but the Honor screen is so much nicer!

jonmorris said:
Yes, I'd put it down to QHD vs FHD.
As an aside my Honor 8 Pro has UFS 2.1 memory, while my Mate 9 has eMMC - so I'm even happier to be using the Honor as my daily driver. The Mate 9 is great in many ways, but the Honor screen is so much nicer!
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I'm still weighing both of these up. I can't seem to find any Honor 8 Pros in stock, vmall has been out of stock since launch but Mate 9 is readily available.
Have you tried Dolphin Emulator on your 8 Pro? I'm not sure if the QHD screen will have any detriment! Is there an option to turn QHD to FHD in the settings like Samsung have?

The phone is not available on vMall or Amazon now, which is frustrating as people I've recommended the phone to can't buy - and sooner or later they'll buy something else instead.
I've not tried Dolphin Emulator but there is an option to drop the resolution for power saving, but unlike on the P9 where it toggled between 1080p and 720p, I've not managed to get it to actually do anything. The same for the Mate 9, P10 etc. Perhaps it only does it when running certain apps?

jonmorris said:
The phone is not available on vMall or Amazon now, which is frustrating as people I've recommended the phone to can't buy - and sooner or later they'll buy something else instead.
I've not tried Dolphin Emulator but there is an option to drop the resolution for power saving, but unlike on the P9 where it toggled between 1080p and 720p, I've not managed to get it to actually do anything. The same for the Mate 9, P10 etc. Perhaps it only does it when running certain apps?
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Thanks for your replies Jon, yeah it's a shame that it's not available now. I may end up just getting a Mate 9 because of it. I'm not overly keen on those black borders around the screen but I want a big screen/powerful CPU and I hate the S8+ aspect ratio (I'd prefer the Snapdragon anyway and that isn't available in Europe).
Maybe the QHD/FD toggle thing will happen in an update somewhere down the line. I'd only ever want QHD on if using VR, so a switch would have been handy. Hopefully you don't have to tie that in with turning the performance of the CPU down as well.

Hello, it is exclusively available from O2 Telefonica Store. And mine has emmc not ufs 2.1. Seems like a lucky box again...
https://www.o2online.de/e-shop/handys-ohne-tarif/honor/honor-8-pro-details

My black 8 pro has also the emmc

Any other testimonies on the storage type of your Honor 8 Pro?
I think Vmall specification pages indicate storage type as UFS, Anandtech also confirmed UFS 2.1 in their Preview.
Is it again a lottery between UFS/eMMC like with the P10 series?

kodinos said:
Any other testimonies on the storage type of your Honor 8 Pro?
I think Vmall specification pages indicate storage type as UFS, Anandtech also confirmed UFS 2.1 in their Preview.
Is it again a lottery between UFS/eMMC like with the P10 series?
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Yes, there are Honor 8 Pro with eMMC.

kodinos said:
Any other testimonies on the storage type of your Honor 8 Pro?
I think Vmall specification pages indicate storage type as UFS, Anandtech also confirmed UFS 2.1 in their Preview.
Is it again a lottery between UFS/eMMC like with the P10 series?
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I have bought honor 8 pro on a reseller website in France and it has eMMC memory too, i have called today vmall Europe (Huawei-Honor) customer and technical services, i reported the problem about memory type, they said they will make an investigation about it and will contact me...It is really a winning lottery and for some, a whining lottery

I don't think they will do something... And I don't find any information about the memory type on the European and Chinese vmall website.

Andy4Shurr said:
I'm still weighing both of these up. I can't seem to find any Honor 8 Pros in stock, vmall has been out of stock since launch but Mate 9 is readily available.
Have you tried Dolphin Emulator on your 8 Pro? I'm not sure if the QHD screen will have any detriment! Is there an option to turn QHD to FHD in the settings like Samsung have?
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There should be setting called SCREEN SAVER which is basically switching to the screen . I have used Honor 6 in passed so that maybe an option
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jonmorris said:
Yes, I'd put it down to QHD vs FHD.
As an aside my Honor 8 Pro has UFS 2.1 memory, while my Mate 9 has eMMC - so I'm even happier to be using the Honor as my daily driver. The Mate 9 is great in many ways, but the Honor screen is so much nicer!
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Can we really feel the difference and the richness of screen in Honor 8 pro ? Am using Oneplus 3 1080p AMOLED display and personally am Not happy with OnePlus displays

ben cherian said:
There should be setting called SCREEN SAVER which is basically switching to the screen . I have used Honor 6 in passed so that maybe an option
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I ended up getting a mate 9 instead. I prefer a bigger screen and you could only get the blue Honor 8 Pro from vmall, I wanted a black phone.

Andy4Shurr said:
I ended up getting a mate 9 instead. I prefer a bigger screen and you could only get the blue Honor 8 Pro from vmall, I wanted a black phone.
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Good choice man. About the storage lottery, I really hate Huawei for that.

Well the RAM is waiting for commands from other components, and they will throttle before the "slow" 6Gb of emmc will, wouldn't worry about it that much.

Rommco05 said:
This is true but lottery with memorys is on Samsung S8 too (I read somewhere) and I read too lottery is only in Chines market, but I'm 100% sure
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so here for example i get a little bit over 150.000 points in antutu, even if i don't like Benchmarks ^^
Regards

OldDroid said:
so here for example i get a little bit over 150.000 points in antutu, even if i don't like Benchmarks ^^
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I hope I also receive the UFS one when I get one.

Andy4Shurr said:
I was looking through the reviews and benchmarks on phonearena here and noticed the Honor 8 Pro scores quite a bit less than the Mate 9, also running the Kirin 960. Would that simply be down to the QHD screen on the 8 Pro?
I'm wondering how that would affect things like emulation with Dolphin, where single core performance is quite important. Would it not matter so much as you choose the resolution to render the game at anyway? So it wouldn't be QHD in dolphin or is it a driver setting which would need to be changed like on the Galaxy S8?
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dont take benchmarks for everything bro, benchmark is all about numbers, and numbers arent everything

Yeah. Real life performance is better than any benchmarks.

I didn't quite understand your last sentence.

Anyone as came from the Oneplus 5 to Honor 8 Pro?

Anyone as come from the Oneplus 5 to Honor 8 Pro?
After having returned my OP5 i'm seriously considering H8Pro
Is it a good alternative performance wise? Better? Worst?
As an Amoled lover ... will I be disappointed with the LCD H9Pro screen as to it's deep blacks and vibrant colors?
Will the 2K display compensate for not being Amoled like the one in OP5?
Thanks :good:

jvidia said:
Anyone as come from the Oneplus 5 to Honor 8 Pro?
After having returned my OP5 i'm seriously considering H8Pro
Is it a good alternative performance wise? Better? Worst?
As an Amoled lover ... will I be disappointed with the LCD H9Pro screen as to it's deep blacks and vibrant colors?
Will the 2K display compensate for not being Amoled like the one in OP5?
Thanks :good:
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Why did you return your OP5?
Jelly scrolling issue?
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I've used both the devices. I'm using the Honor 8 pro at this moment. Both the phones are very snappy but 1+5 surely has an edge plus Indian variant of Honor 8 pro gets warm at the back side with light usage too which is no the case with OnePlus 5 with the same exact usage! Display? I'll prefer the one on Honor 8 pro for the 2k res & it's very good looking too (it's very marginal difference, nothing noticeable)

TheDj408 said:
I've used both the devices. I'm using the Honor 8 pro at this moment. Both the phones are very snappy but 1+5 surely has an edge plus Indian variant of Honor 8 pro gets warm at the back side with light usage too which is no the case with OnePlus 5 with the same exact usage! Display? I'll prefer the one on Honor 8 pro for the 2k res & it's very good looking too (it's very marginal difference, nothing noticeable)
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Does your honor 8 pro has emmc or ufs?
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K.khiladi said:
Does your honor 8 pro has emmc or ufs?
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Sadly it is having emmc! Is it safe to assume that all Indian Honor 8 Pros are having EMMC as the price is far cheaper than the Global variant! Plus 6+128 model available!

TheDj408 said:
Sadly it is having emmc! Is it safe to assume that all Indian Honor 8 Pros are having EMMC as the price is far cheaper than the Global variant! Plus 6+128 model available!
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Yup that seems true but then why are they supplying ufs 2.1 versions to reviewers.
Outright cheating.
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K.khiladi said:
Yup that seems true but then why are they supplying ufs 2.1 versions to reviewers.
Outright cheating.
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My opinon- Reviewers received the Global variant (maybe, just maybe) which had UFS! But yes that's not fair as I see many people asking about the same and they are also worried about the heating issue (not uncomfortable though) as they bought the device by watching those "early reviews"

TheDj408 said:
My opinon- Reviewers received the Global variant (maybe, just maybe) which had UFS! But yes that's not fair as I see many people asking about the same and they are also worried about the heating issue (not uncomfortable though) as they bought the device by watching those "early reviews"
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I too was going to order it but this issue has made me take a step back.
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K.khiladi said:
Why did you return your OP5?
Jelly scrolling issue?
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A little but my major problem was that I could not connect to my home router
Only managed to connect to my Devolo 1200+ and not all the times.
Many people have other Wi-Fi problems like drops and speed.
Really bad the Wi-Fi quality on OP5.
K.khiladi said:
Does your honor 8 pro has emmc or ufs?
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But is there 2 variants??
I tough that all Honor 8 Pro had emmc.
The european version has ufs??

jvidia said:
A little but my major problem was that I could not connect to my home router
Only managed to connect to my Devolo 1200+ and not all the times.
Many people have other Wi-Fi problems like drops and speed.
Really bad the Wi-Fi quality on OP5.
But is there 2 variants??
I tough that all Honor 8 Pro had emmc.
The european version has ufs??
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All the reviewers have ufs variant and that's why they are getting better performance on their units. All others have emmc and thus, degraded performance.
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No european buyers here yet that can confirm it europe is receiving emmc or ufs?

Had the Honor 8Pro before the OP5 and OP5 is way better. '(Germany - Got the Honor from Netherlands)
Storage was EMMC - Which really enerved me + at that point in time (1 month after release) no root in sight little XDA coverage etc-
Sent it back within the 14 day period.
Both are nice phones but the op5 is IMHO better.
Joerg

If it would be about the phone only, I'd go with Honor 8 pro but, given the fact I value the development strength when ever I get the chance to get a phone, I'll go with OP5 (if I can buy it :silly: )

joergwrage said:
Had the Honor 8Pro before the OP5 and OP5 is way better. '(Germany - Got the Honor from Netherlands)
Storage was EMMC - Which really enerved me + at that point in time (1 month after release) no root in sight little XDA coverage etc-
Sent it back within the 14 day period.
Both are nice phones but the op5 is IMHO better.
Joerg
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That's resumes well why I didn't go for the H8Po. :good:
I ordered one OP5 Midnight Black 8GB/128GB today. :victory:
Case closed ( I hope ).

jvidia said:
That's resumes well why I didn't go for the H8Po. :good:
I ordered one OP5 Midnight Black 8GB/128GB today. :victory:
Case closed ( I hope ).
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The best decision you made, if you care about development

jvidia said:
That's resumes well why I didn't go for the H8Po. :good:
I ordered one OP5 Midnight Black 8GB/128GB today. :victory:
Case closed ( I hope ).
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Better choice , OP5 Development is On fire , Enjoy OP5

Malaysian version also using emmc.. I think only the reviewers got the ufs units.

mab71 said:
Malaysian version also using emmc.. I think only the reviewers got the ufs units.
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definitely yes

mab71 said:
Malaysian version also using emmc.. I think only the reviewers got the ufs units.
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If it's true then, it's a bummer.
They sent UFS equipped device so they just appear faster in speed tests

nice trick by honor , well played this time

this phone vs pixel 4xl?

Just wondering if anyone else was struggling with the decision to get the 70 versus the 4XL. I am on Verizon, grandfathered unlimited data. All I care about is having an unlocked phone. I'm currently on the Pixel 2 XL, and ready for an upgrade, but not sure which direction to go. What are your guys thoughts? All I really care about is having a fast phone with a good battery

If price is not a constraint, you can go for pixel

Funk Wizard said:
If price is not a constraint, you can go for pixel
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Just curious, why do you think that? One plus should have better or equivalent specs

Honestly if camera is super important to you, go pixel hands down. If you just wanna be a spec fanatic, OnePlus.
Personally, I'll always go pixel simply because specs aren't everything. Just something to brag about.

Pixel 4 will have the better camera. At least this time they're also going with 6gb ram. Just comes down to pricing.

ermacwins said:
Pixel 4 will have the better camera. At least this time they're also going with 6gb ram. Just comes down to pricing.
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I see you are a fan of Xiaomi phones. Do you have any thoughts about Xiaomi Mi 10, which I guess will come around March 2020 ?

SlyUK said:
I see you are a fan of Xiaomi phones. Do you have any thoughts about Xiaomi Mi 10, which I guess will come around March 2020 ?
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Lol yea they have very good specs for price. Since it's their 10th anniversary phone I'm hoping for some solid specs including high refresh rate screen. Who knows might even have under display selfie cam.

ermacwins said:
Lol yea they have very good specs for price. Since it's their 10th anniversary phone I'm hoping for some solid specs including high refresh rate screen. Who knows might even have under display selfie cam.
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People already complaining about the 7T. I might wait for Xiaomi Mi 10 tbh and use it until late 2022
If I can't wait I might just get Galaxy Note 10 (non plus).
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Although saying that:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/oneplus-7t-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-10/

SlyUK said:
People already complaining about the 7T. I might wait for Xiaomi Mi 10 tbh and use it until late 2022
If I can't wait I might just get Galaxy Note 10 (non plus).
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What's the complaint about the 7T? Did you read anything anywhere? Cuz 7T is also on my list and I have to buy a new phone really soon.

niyonsv said:
What's the complaint about the 7T? Did you read anything anywhere? Cuz 7T is also on my list and I have to buy a new phone really soon.
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I don't have any complaints and for the price what more can you ask for, however things i've read include:
People don't like the camera hump for example and that the OnePlus 7 Pro is an overall better phone.

SlyUK said:
I don't have any complaints and for the price what more can you ask for, however things i've read include:
People don't like the camera hump for example and that the OnePlus 7 Pro is an overall better phone.
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Yes, I read that too

niyonsv said:
Yes, I read that too
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For what it offers its fantastic, unless you are a camera enthusiast.

Camera on pixel will be sublime. Perfect colour reproduction.
But battery (so long as you can deactivate ,90hz)
Will be superior on the OnePlus.
Pixels always have crap battery.

7T pro then the best option? Or will there be a 5g 7t?

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7T pro then the best option? Or will there be a 5g 7t?
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5G will destroy the battery

If I can get a new OnePlus 7 Pro 6GB for the same retail price as the new OnePlus 7T 8GB (₹38k), which one would be better? At the same time I can get the new 7T for less than ₹ 32k. Please note:
7 Pro - 6GB - 855 for ₹ 38k
7T - 8GB - 855+ for ₹ 32k

niyonsv said:
If I can get a new OnePlus 7 Pro 6GB for the same retail price as the new OnePlus 7T 8GB (₹38k), which one would be better? At the same time I can get the new 7T for less than ₹ 32k. Please note:
7 Pro - 6GB - 855 for ₹ 38k
7T - 8GB - 855+ for ₹ 32k
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7T.

Will the 7T have a McLaren edition? Not the 7T pro just the normal 7T straight screen

kamikaze702k said:
Will the 7T have a McLaren edition? Not the 7T pro just the normal 7T straight screen
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Believe so. Rumors are stating it will be a Verizon exclusive.

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Will the 7T have a McLaren edition? Not the 7T pro just the normal 7T straight screen
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The McLaren edition will have 12GB I'd assume and that will affect battery life, complete overkill, 6GB is probably more than enough, 8GB is the sweet spot and honestly the most I'd get in a phone for now at least, unless the battery was substantially larger and apps actually utilized it which at the moment they just don't.
If it's also 5G then it'll greatly affect battery life.
The range on 5G and ability to pass through walls etc is awful, so if the phone is forcing power to the antenna to get a good connection your battery will deplete a lot faster.
4G and 8GB is perfect.

OnePlus 7T kernel sources available

Just read in XDA news that the kernel sources are released on GitHub. How do you guys think of getting developments for 7T?
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t-kernel-sources-now-available/
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/kernel-sources-for-the-oneplus-7t-now-available.1108409/

Let the games begin ..
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Thinking to upgrade from One plus 6T. Confused between 7T & Asus ROG 2.

domnic79 said:
Thinking to upgrade from One plus 6T. Confused between 7T & Asus ROG 2.
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Same was here.
Finally settled with 7T
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Rog having too much weight for my usage and camera is not good as as 7T
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RohanAJoshi said:
Same was here.
Finally settled with 7T
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Rog having too much weight for my usage and camera is not good as as 7T
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+1 here as well

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Thinking to upgrade from One plus 6T. Confused between 7T & Asus ROG 2.
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Same. Went with the 7t because I'm don't game on my phone. 7t is overall a much more premium phone plus Asus' zenui is pure trash compared to OOS

Go with 7T for the win!

I've got the Rog 2 but will get 7T and possibly sell the Rog 2. It's just too big.

domnic79 said:
Thinking to upgrade from One plus 6T. Confused between 7T & Asus ROG 2.
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RohanAJoshi said:
Same was here.
Finally settled with 7T
Rog having too much weight for my usage and camera is not good as as 7T
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+1 here as well
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Same. Went with the 7t because I'm don't game on my phone. 7t is overall a much more premium phone plus Asus' zenui is pure trash compared to OOS
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Didn't know this. Another factor in favour of the 7T !
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I've got the Rog 2 but will get 7T and possibly sell the Rog 2. It's just too big.
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6000mAH battery and the air triggers had had me tilt towards the ROG. But then I don't game that much. And battery results of the ROG aren't that much better, probably thanks to the 120Hz refresh rate(and the in-the box-charger is what, 18W ?). And camera performance is important for me. Hence chose the 7T like all you guys here.
What screen protectors and cases are you guys using, those who have got the phone already ? Mine is coming tomorrow.

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Didn't know this. Another factor in favour of the 7T !
6000mAH battery and the air triggers had had me tilt towards the ROG. But then I don't game that much. And battery results of the ROG aren't that much better, probably thanks to the 120Hz refresh rate(and the in-the box-charger is what, 18W ?). And camera performance is important for me. Hence chose the 7T like all you guys here.
What screen protectors and cases are you guys using, those who have got the phone already ? Mine is coming tomorrow.
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Believe me, triggers are useless if you are pro player.
Touch screen latency is way more better than those triggers.

RohanAJoshi said:
Believe me, triggers are useless if you are pro player.
Touch screen latency is way more better than those triggers.
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Oh, ok. Never been a pro player, so I didn't know. Even the screen latency is lesser in Rog 2, the touch sampling rate is like 240Hz ?

RohanAJoshi said:
Same was here.
Finally settled with 7T
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Rog having too much weight for my usage and camera is not good as as 7T
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Same. Went with the 7t because I'm don't game on my phone. 7t is overall a much more premium phone plus Asus' zenui is pure trash compared to OOS
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Go with 7T for the win!
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I've got the Rog 2 but will get 7T and possibly sell the Rog 2. It's just too big.
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Ahh thanks guys. I was too confused between op7T and Rog2... 6000mah battery and 120 hz screen and some youtube comparison videos literally made me convinced to buy rog2... I am using oneplus phone now and really satisfied... So i should go for op7T then :laugh:

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Ahh thanks guys. I was too confused between op7T and Rog2... 6000mah battery and 120 hz screen and some youtube comparison videos literally made me convinced to buy rog2... I am using oneplus phone now and really satisfied... So i should go for op7T then :laugh:
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How much is it in Bangladesh?

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How much is it in Bangladesh?
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I don't know the price yet. There is no official store here

Question Nord 2 features...

Does anyone know if the features from Nord 2 like EXTRA HD, ULTRA NIGHT MODE , NIGHT POTRAIT, new GAME app is coming to 9 series specifically to 9 pro or not??

lol definitely not

fdgfgd said:
lol definitely not
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What makes you think it won't? It'll definitely come it'll just take a couple months.
OnePlus always does this. They release extra features on a new device and it trickles down a few updates later to the rest of the phones. 9 Pro is their Flagship so I guarantee we'll get this stuff eventually.

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What makes you think it won't? It'll definitely come it'll just take a couple months.
OnePlus always does this. They release extra features on a new device and it trickles down a few updates later to the rest of the phones. 9 Pro is their Flagship so I guarantee we'll get this stuff eventually.
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Thanks for the info ,and they also changed the settings app and camrea ui of Nord 2 s oxygen OS 11.3 ,is the same ui changes coming to 9 series too