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To buy or not...

It looks like the mi 9 SE will be released global on the 28th of March. I want to "measure" how big the xda community will be for this phone, and also just curious...
If the mi 9 SE will be released globally, will you consider buying this phone (answer in poll)?

Well it's just as easy to modify as most of Xiaomi phones so I guess soon there will be here some custom rom choices. Especially if the only other smaller size competitor is Samsung 10e, for over twice the price.
I have 9se for about three weeks so far and must admit it's a great piece of hardware, but only if you like compact devices. Otherwise I'd rather choose Redmi Note 7 (limited budget) or Mi 9 or keep waiting for Poco F2.

winesh said:
It looks like the mi 9 SE will be released global on the 28th of March. I want to "measure" how big the xda community will be for this phone, and also just curious...
If the mi 9 SE will be released globally, will you consider buying this phone (answer in poll)?
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Yes, absolutely. I'm looking forward to purchase the 128gb varient. I LOVE compact phones, especially the ones with flagship spec i.e. Sony. But I'm definitely getting the Mi 9 SE.

Actually, its form factor seem to be the best. I would consider buying the P30 or S10e, but the price is way better on the Mi 9 SE.
Just wondering if it worth waiting for the Mi A3 lite, which would be about the same smartphone except for the snapdragon (660 and not 712) but with Android One and b28....

It depends on what is important for you. I am planning to buy too, after I have seen some reviews and possibly if I see some development activity here.
The reasons I would buy this phone are: small size, amoled screen, quite decent chipset and nfc.
I would personally not buy the galaxy s10e because of the high price and the lack of developement I have seen with their previous phones.

kagazushi said:
Actually, its form factor seem to be the best. I would consider buying the P30 or S10e, but the price is way better on the Mi 9 SE.
Just wondering if it worth waiting for the Mi A3 lite, which would be about the same smartphone except for the snapdragon (660 and not 712) but with Android One and b28....
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After having a mi A1 for over a year, I'm NEVER getting another Android one phone from Xiaomi!

keeeper said:
Well it's just as easy to modify as most of Xiaomi phones so I guess soon there will be here some custom rom choices. Especially if the only other smaller size competitor is Samsung 10e, for over twice the price.
I have 9se for about three weeks so far and must admit it's a great piece of hardware, but only if you like compact devices. Otherwise I'd rather choose Redmi Note 7 (limited budget) or Mi 9 or keep waiting for Poco F2.
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How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?

WhatzIt2Ya said:
After having a mi A1 for over a year, I'm NEVER getting another Android one phone from Xiaomi!
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Ho that's interesting, can you explain why? (I guess the amoled screen won't be on the Mi A3 and that's why i'll buy the 9 SE, but still I'm curious)

Trunksleo said:
How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?
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I just watched a couple of reviews and forum posts so mine is not a "direct" opinion, anyway
About photos, they are very good. They are not great, as well as big brother Mi 9, probably that's due to the software: AI and drivers are still not perfectly calibrated on Sony IMX586. It looks like worst than Mi 8, even if on paper Mi9/Mi9SE should have a better sensor.
About battery, it's enough! If you use dark theme, you can reach 6 hours of display on. Recently Xiaomi released DC function for Mi 9 , maybe we will see the same for Mi 9 SE because both have AMOLED display, which can benefit of this DC function.
If battery sometime isn't enough, QC @ 18W can pump in a few minutes the energy you need to reach late night.

Trunksleo said:
How about the quality of the photos??? Battery?
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Photos during daylight are great, just as you wish them to be. Every lens is doing it's job well - you can get a nice close up photo with zoom, wide angle lens proved to be useful as well, bokeh is nice (but it used to be so even on Mi 6). I am a little disappointed with night mode though - before I was playing with it on Mix 3 and there the results looked like magic, here are mediocre. It looks like the algorithm is only increasing the general brightness of the photo without recognizing the difference between stuff which should be visible and that is supposed to remain dark. The effect is obviously worse than on Mi 9 (basing on the reviews).
The battery is sufficient. Mi 9 SE as a smaller size phone is not bought for gaming therefore for any other activity can be used quite long. E.g. I've got over 14 hours of continuous movie play (MX Player HW+) and 25 hours when left as a clock (Big Clock app on Google Play). When you're not using the phone the battery drain is about 1% per hour with Ambient Display on.

kagazushi said:
Ho that's interesting, can you explain why? (I guess the amoled screen won't be on the Mi A3 and that's why i'll buy the 9 SE, but still I'm curious)
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Xiaomi is notoriously slow with updates. Like now, it's the end of March still no March patch, some people didn't even get Feb patch yet. And the biggest f*** up that Xiaomi did is after android pie update. Wifi Mac has changed, some people got their phone bricked, wifi keeps disconnecting, battery life is super poor (4-5h sot), a lot of bugs I encounter every day, still using 3.18 kernel instead of 4.9 etc. etc.

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Xiaomi is notoriously slow with updates. Like now, it's the end of March still no March patch, some people didn't even get Feb patch yet. And the biggest f*** up that Xiaomi did is after android pie update. Wifi Mac has changed, some people got their phone bricked, wifi keeps disconnecting, battery life is super poor (4-5h sot), a lot of bugs I encounter every day, still using 3.18 kernel instead of 4.9 etc. etc.
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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan

kagazushi said:
Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan
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Nah, the only reason why switched to custom for a while is because the wifi problem, everyone is facing this issue. It's disconnects won't won't connect back, and 5ghz wifi speed is very poor.
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Ok so according to you, the best way is to buy the mi 9 se for its hardware and run custom roms on it? That's my secret plan
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I want the mi 9 se as a replacement device. I finally want a premium (cut down) flagship phone, and hopefully will last for about 4 years or more.

Looks like I was following a false track. The release from 28th only contained mi 9 and redmi note 7.
There have been a few others sources hinting towards a global launch. For now we just have to wait.

winesh said:
Looks like I was following a false track. The release from 28th only contained mi 9 and redmi note 7.
There have been a few others sources hinting towards a global launch. For now we just have to wait.
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Many AliExpress sellers are accepting pre-sales with some displaying pictures showing stock of the global version. I have placed an order with HK Goldway, I'll update when it's shipped.

Rdavis27 said:
Many AliExpress sellers are accepting pre-sales with some displaying pictures showing stock of the global version. I have placed an order with HK Goldway, I'll update when it's shipped.
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It is also listed on geekbuying for buying, not only for preorder.
6/64 edition for about 330€ after using coupons seems to be quite a good deal.

Pros:
- 6" screen is still enough.
- Amoled screen and non-intrusive notch.
- Size. The device itself is tiny and lightweight.
- Hardware is below flagship, but much better than mid-range.
- Treble enabled, kernel source already released.
Cons:
- MIUI environment is not so friendly.
- dev scene (I hope I am wrong).
- OEM updates.

Flounderist said:
Pros:
- 6" screen is still enough.
- Amoled screen and non-intrusive notch.
- Size. The device itself is tiny and lightweight.
- Hardware is below flagship, but much better than mid-range.
- Treble enabled, kernel source already released.
Cons:
- MIUI environment is not so friendly.
- dev scene (I hope I am wrong).
- OEM updates.
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Miui and oem updates aren't the issue for me.

Ok, so to summerize:
- Small from factor
- Amoled screen
- Indisplay fingerprint
- 4G b20 and b28
- Widevine L1
- 6Gb RAM
A part for the CPU power, it is even more interesting for me than s10e, and for half the price.
So I definetly swap my OnePlus 6 for this device. The last question is where should we buy it to be sure we have the global version?
I saw that honorbuy.com send the right one with even european charger, but a bit expansive...
Fantacy seller on aliexpress? Anyone ever tried?
Thanks.

kagazushi said:
I saw that honorbuy.com send the right one with even european charger, but a bit expansive...
Fantacy seller on aliexpress? Anyone ever tried?
Thanks.
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I would reccomend honorbuy because of european stock and no VAT on delivery (if you are based in Europe).
Devices are shipped with european socket charger.
If you buy on Aliexpress you must check any custom duty that would be added to the shipment in your country.

Custom ROM support

How likely is it to get custom ROM support for OnePlus 7T? Since the 7 is still far behind in number of custom ROMs. Many popular ROMs doesn't support the 7. What do you all think?

niyonsv said:
How likely is it to get custom ROM support for OnePlus 7T? Since the 7 is still far behind in number of custom ROMs. Many popular ROMs doesn't support the 7. What do you all think?
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My guess is that some ROMs, Magisk ones in particular, will continue to work on the 7T. xXx's ROM works all the way back to the 5/5T. I imagine it'll end up working on the 7T.

Is custom rom support likely to be far higher on OP 7T Pro than OP 7T ?

SlyUK said:
Is custom rom support likely to be far higher on OP 7T Pro than OP 7T ?
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Op7t will be released worldwide just like op7 pro. Whereas op7t pro will not be released in US (except mclaren). So if you want custom rom support either get op7t or op7pro(non t).

DevilRockr said:
Op7t will be released worldwide just like op7 pro. Whereas op7t pro will not be released in US (except mclaren). So if you want custom rom support either get op7t or op7pro(non t).
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Yes if I buy OnePlus I will buy the 7T as opposed to 7T Pro. Thanks for clarifying.

If I buy OP 7T, I will use OxygenOS for the first 2 years and then switch to Custom Rom for the final 3rd year of usage.
Anyone else planning to buying and using for 3 years minimum ?

SlyUK said:
If I buy OP 7T, I will use OxygenOS for the first 2 years and then switch to Custom Rom for the final 3rd year of usage.
Anyone else planning to buying and using for 3 years minimum ?
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I usually keep my phone for two years. I'm on the Pixel 2 XL now and I'm planning on getting the oneplus 7t this week. The pixel 4xl looks like it's going to be about $1,400 CDN dollars and that's too much. When I get the 7t, I will unlock the bootloader, so if I want to root it afterwards, I can.

Gordietm said:
I usually keep my phone for two years. I'm on the Pixel 2 XL now and I'm planning on getting the oneplus 7t this week. The pixel 4xl looks like it's going to be about $1,400 CDN dollars and that's too much. When I get the 7t, I will unlock the bootloader, so if I want to root it afterwards, I can.
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Will you use OxygenOS or will you swap to Custom Roms as soon as one that suits you becomes available ?

SlyUK said:
Will you use OxygenOS or will you swap to Custom Roms as soon they one that suits you becomes available ?
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I've never tried OxygenOS, but everything I've read sounds good, so I'll definitely stay on it for awhile. I've tried most of the custom ROMs on my pixel, but now on Android 10, I'm on stock and I like it.

Gordietm said:
I've never tried OxygenOS, but everything I've read sounds good, so I'll definitely stay on it for awhile. I've tried most of the custom ROMs on my pixel, but now on Android 10, I'm on stock and I like it.
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Out of interest why won't you wait for Pixel 4 XL ?

SlyUK said:
Out of interest why won't you wait for Pixel 4 XL ?
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I heard it's going to cost about $1,400 CDN dollars. That's crazy and the oneplus 7t is almost as good except without the soli gestures. Plus I've never owned a OnePlus and thought I should try them out

Gordietm said:
I usually keep my phone for two years. I'm on the Pixel 2 XL now and I'm planning on getting the oneplus 7t this week. The pixel 4xl looks like it's going to be about $1,400 CDN dollars and that's too much. When I get the 7t, I will unlock the bootloader, so if I want to root it afterwards, I can.
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I would not recommend switching to the OP 7 or 7T from pixel if you are on pixel for the camera. The disappointment is real LOL although EVERYTHING else about the OP7 is better then the pixel (I had P2XL and P3XL) the camera is really really bad. Just a heads up!

vwgti18 said:
I would not recommend switching to the OP 7 or 7T from pixel if you are on pixel for the camera. The disappointment is real LOL although EVERYTHING else about the OP7 is better then the pixel (I had P2XL and P3XL) the camera is really really bad. Just a heads up!
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What about using a GCam? Still not comparable with Pixel?

vwgti18 said:
I would not recommend switching to the OP 7 or 7T from pixel if you are on pixel for the camera. The disappointment is real LOL although EVERYTHING else about the OP7 is better then the pixel (I had P2XL and P3XL) the camera is really really bad. Just a heads up!
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The camera is not a big deal for me.

niyonsv said:
What about using a GCam? Still not comparable with Pixel?
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Unfortunately comparable no...better then stock yes.
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The camera is not a big deal for me.
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Cool then get the OP7 (T) its one of the best overall phones I have had!

vwgti18 said:
Unfortunately comparable no...better then stock yes.
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Cool then get the OP7 (T) its one of the best overall phones I have had!
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I found someone today here in Toronto who is selling his oneplus 7 pro, brand new, sealed in the box for $550 CDN. I'm going to pick it up this afternoon. This is too good to be true. I'm not going to pass up the 7 pro and this price to get the 7t later this week.

Guys, all the details are now revealed of OnePlus 7T (check XDA site for all details). What do you guys think now of custom ROM support for 7T? Will it end up with low development like OnePlus 7?

Gordietm said:
I found someone today here in Toronto who is selling his oneplus 7 pro, brand new, sealed in the box for $550 CDN. I'm going to pick it up this afternoon. This is too good to be true. I'm not going to pass up the 7 pro and this price to get the 7t later this week.
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Hope you enjoy it

niyonsv said:
Guys, all the details are now revealed of OnePlus 7T (check XDA site for all details). What do you guys think now of custom ROM support for 7T? Will it end up with low development like OnePlus 7?
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You could run Magisk ROMs like xXx on the all variants down to the 5. That will likely continue as the 7T are just upgraded versions of the 7 and 6T. You may just have to look in the other forums. If you're looking for a full ROM, that may be a different story.
I'm jumping and putting my 7 Pro up for sale next month. Hate the curved screen. Every time I use it and it does something weird, I keep thinking back to the old Apple idiocy of "you're holding it wrong."

OnePlus 7T kernel sources available

Just read in XDA news that the kernel sources are released on GitHub. How do you guys think of getting developments for 7T?
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7t-kernel-sources-now-available/
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/kernel-sources-for-the-oneplus-7t-now-available.1108409/

Let the games begin ..
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Thinking to upgrade from One plus 6T. Confused between 7T & Asus ROG 2.

domnic79 said:
Thinking to upgrade from One plus 6T. Confused between 7T & Asus ROG 2.
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Same was here.
Finally settled with 7T
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Rog having too much weight for my usage and camera is not good as as 7T
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RohanAJoshi said:
Same was here.
Finally settled with 7T
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Rog having too much weight for my usage and camera is not good as as 7T
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+1 here as well

domnic79 said:
Thinking to upgrade from One plus 6T. Confused between 7T & Asus ROG 2.
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Same. Went with the 7t because I'm don't game on my phone. 7t is overall a much more premium phone plus Asus' zenui is pure trash compared to OOS

Go with 7T for the win!

I've got the Rog 2 but will get 7T and possibly sell the Rog 2. It's just too big.

domnic79 said:
Thinking to upgrade from One plus 6T. Confused between 7T & Asus ROG 2.
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RohanAJoshi said:
Same was here.
Finally settled with 7T
Rog having too much weight for my usage and camera is not good as as 7T
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+1 here as well
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suraj.das said:
Same. Went with the 7t because I'm don't game on my phone. 7t is overall a much more premium phone plus Asus' zenui is pure trash compared to OOS
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Didn't know this. Another factor in favour of the 7T !
ermacwins said:
I've got the Rog 2 but will get 7T and possibly sell the Rog 2. It's just too big.
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6000mAH battery and the air triggers had had me tilt towards the ROG. But then I don't game that much. And battery results of the ROG aren't that much better, probably thanks to the 120Hz refresh rate(and the in-the box-charger is what, 18W ?). And camera performance is important for me. Hence chose the 7T like all you guys here.
What screen protectors and cases are you guys using, those who have got the phone already ? Mine is coming tomorrow.

hk.happy said:
Didn't know this. Another factor in favour of the 7T !
6000mAH battery and the air triggers had had me tilt towards the ROG. But then I don't game that much. And battery results of the ROG aren't that much better, probably thanks to the 120Hz refresh rate(and the in-the box-charger is what, 18W ?). And camera performance is important for me. Hence chose the 7T like all you guys here.
What screen protectors and cases are you guys using, those who have got the phone already ? Mine is coming tomorrow.
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Believe me, triggers are useless if you are pro player.
Touch screen latency is way more better than those triggers.

RohanAJoshi said:
Believe me, triggers are useless if you are pro player.
Touch screen latency is way more better than those triggers.
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Oh, ok. Never been a pro player, so I didn't know. Even the screen latency is lesser in Rog 2, the touch sampling rate is like 240Hz ?

RohanAJoshi said:
Same was here.
Finally settled with 7T
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Rog having too much weight for my usage and camera is not good as as 7T
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Same. Went with the 7t because I'm don't game on my phone. 7t is overall a much more premium phone plus Asus' zenui is pure trash compared to OOS
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Go with 7T for the win!
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I've got the Rog 2 but will get 7T and possibly sell the Rog 2. It's just too big.
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Ahh thanks guys. I was too confused between op7T and Rog2... 6000mah battery and 120 hz screen and some youtube comparison videos literally made me convinced to buy rog2... I am using oneplus phone now and really satisfied... So i should go for op7T then :laugh:

sagardakua said:
Ahh thanks guys. I was too confused between op7T and Rog2... 6000mah battery and 120 hz screen and some youtube comparison videos literally made me convinced to buy rog2... I am using oneplus phone now and really satisfied... So i should go for op7T then :laugh:
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How much is it in Bangladesh?

ermacwins said:
How much is it in Bangladesh?
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I don't know the price yet. There is no official store here

Dev Support

Am I correct to assume that as far as heavy attention from devs, moving forward from here the Pro models will be the ones getting the most attention? The most development? I don't know how the regular 7 looks like as far as dev support but when I had that phone for a few weeks before selling it off it had very little. I'm curious what has dev's attention right now, even though this 7T has only been out a short while. Are they going to be mostly focused on the Pro models like the 7 Pro and 7T Pro?

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Am I correct to assume that as far as heavy attention from devs, moving forward from here the Pro models will be the ones getting the most attention? The most development? I don't know how the regular 7 looks like as far as dev support but when I had that phone for a few weeks before selling it off it had very little. I'm curious what has dev's attention right now, even though this 7T has only been out a short while. Are they going to be mostly focused on the Pro models like the 7 Pro and 7T Pro?
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Most of development will be unified the only major difference being the display, also both phones will get equal attention due to the region wise availability and non pro series being cheaper

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Most of development will be unified the only major difference being the display, also both phones will get equal attention due to the region wise availability and non pro series being cheaper
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Looks to me that the 7 Pro got the lion's share of attention compared to the regular 7.

Feels as dev support for oneplus getting less for every generation of devices, now with android 10 and its non RW system i think dev support will be dropping more than before

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Looks to me that the 7 Pro got the lion's share of attention compared to the regular 7.
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The case was different with 7 pro, Oneplus 7 was launched in very limited markets, also it was launched before 7 pro, as 7 pro was their main flagship last year and it got all of the hype and availability that attention to 7 pro is justified.
This timeit is almost the opposite , 7T is their main focus than 7T pro, that is cleary apparent due to the fact they have only one storage variant of 7T pro which indicates limited production supply.

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The case was different with 7 pro, Oneplus 7 was launched in very limited markets, also it was launched before 7 pro, as 7 pro was their main flagship last year and it got all of the hype and availability that attention to 7 pro is justified.
This timeit is almost the opposite , 7T is their main focus than 7T pro, that is cleary apparent due to the fact they have only one storage variant of 7T pro which indicates limited production supply.
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If the 7T was just a few cm SHORTER (display) it would be the perfect Android phone, IMO. Perfect as far as balance between features and price.

Question OP9pro vs Pixel 5

Do you really willing to spend over $800 for oneplus?
Does anyone know how is the oneplus ui experience any ads, junk or great never use oxygen os ?
does one plus offer built in voice mail or just app?
us signal quality and updates?
Does anyone use oneplus before ?

I've switched from the Pixel 5 to the 9 Pro and forgot quite how much smaller the Pixel screen is to other flagships. The phone is tiny in comparison.
OP9P doesn't seem to have Visual Voicemail which my Pixel did have, but other functions like VoLTE and VoWiFi are working just fine.

I personally prefer oxygen os over everything else. I used several devices recently including pixel 5 and s20fe 5g and i ended up with the 9 Pro.

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I've switched from the Pixel 5 to the 9 Pro and forgot quite how much smaller the Pixel screen is to other flagships. The phone is tiny in comparison.
OP9P doesn't seem to have Visual Voicemail which my Pixel did have, but other functions like VoLTE and VoWiFi are working just fine.
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Visual voicemail works just fine here on T-Mobile

I've just come from a gp5 and got to say oxygenos is better for me no lag at all and more options I've stock

Oxygen OS keeps getting better for me on my OnePlus devices!

Oneplus 9 Pro versus pixel 5 is a pointless comparison in my opinion. Even the OnePlus 7 Pro is better than a pixel 5 in my opinion.

i personally prefer P5 because Color OS one OP9 sucks.
Doesn't have double tap power to quick start camera
And battery on pixel 5 last way longer than OP9

Burt Squirtz said:
Oneplus 9 Pro versus pixel 5 is a pointless comparison in my opinion. Even the OnePlus 7 Pro is better than a pixel 5 in my opinion.
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Lol, Pixel needs to work on it's flagship game.

ycy said:
i personally prefer P5 because Color OS one OP9 sucks.
Doesn't have double tap power to quick start camera
And battery on pixel 5 last way longer than OP9
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You've come to those conclusions very quickly, battery needs time but I do agree the Pixel 5 has a good battery.
Regarding the Double Click for camera? Have you got the phone and checked? Or just spouting crap?

AbandonedTrolley said:
You've come to those conclusions very quickly, battery needs time but I do agree the Pixel 5 has a good battery.
Regarding the Double Click for camera? Have you got the phone and checked? Or just spouting crap?
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He's talking about color os tbf, you're on oxygen aren't you?