What is the easiest way to degoogle? How to remove GMS, GSF and other clutter without breaking phone calling or messaging?
Danke!
Temporarily disabling Google play Services for starters. If you disable it with an adb edit you'll lose access to Playstore and Gmail.
Depends how nuts you want to go...
I use a package disabler on my Samsung so it's easy to enable/disable them. I kill Google backup Transport, AR Core, speech to text, calendar and a bunch more.
blackhawk said:
Temporarily disabling Google play Services for starters. If you disable it with an adb edit you'll lose access to Playstore and Gmail.
Depends how nuts you want to go...
I use a package disabler on my Samsung so it's easy to enable/disable them. I kill Google backup Transport, AR Core, speech to text, calendar and a bunch more.
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Any way to remove GMS and use sms without breaking? Disabling GMS get notification "this app wont work" but it work! on older android no problem - remove GMS and everything work, but 11 remove GMS and it break messaging and phone call app.
echo124 said:
What is the easiest way to degoogle? How to remove GMS, GSF and other clutter without breaking phone calling or messaging?
Danke!
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Depends on what you mean by "de-google". Completely getting rid of Google including Play Services (+ Google Services Framework) for a full Google wipe, will require signature spoofing your device and replacing with MicroG.
echo124 said:
Any way to remove GMS and use sms without breaking? Disabling GMS get notification "this app wont work" but it work! on older android no problem - remove GMS and everything work, but 11 remove GMS and it break messaging and phone call app.
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com.google.android.gms.policy, I would not touch. Google play Services can safely be temporarily disabled in app settings without major issues. Google play Services, Backup Transport and Playstore are the major offenders.
While Backup Transport could be probably uninstalled with no impact the others would likely haunt you. Package disabling is easier do and correct when there's an issue... which isn't uncommon
As Andrologic pointed out extensive work arounds will be needed. You may nonetheless still lose full functionality and have problems with some apps.
Once you get it optimized by whatever means you choose to use, Do Not update the bloody thing or you will likely be starting all over. Probably with less options and a loss in overall functionality.
Andrologic said:
Depends on what you mean by "de-google". Completely getting rid of Google including Play Services (+ Google Services Framework) for a full Google wipe, will require signature spoofing your device and replacing with MicroG.
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blackhawk said:
com.google.android.gms.policy, I would not touch. Google play Services can safely be temporarily disabled in app settings without major issues. Google play Services, Backup Transport and Playstore are the major offenders.
While Backup Transport could be probably uninstalled with no impact the others would likely haunt you. Package disabling is easier do and correct when there's an issue... which isn't uncommon
As Andrologic pointed out extensive work arounds will be needed. You may nonetheless still lose full functionality and have problems with some apps.
Once you get it optimized by whatever means you choose to use, Do Not update the bloody thing or you will likely be starting all over. Probably with less options and a loss in overall functionality.
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Disabling com.google.android.gms result in notifications " this app will not work" but all apps work. Remove com.google.android.gms makes breaks sms. No twrp for 10 iii so can't flash microg/picog only maybe with adb? Also can't remove/delete with file manager system app, no? like in android 8, 9 with root?
echo124 said:
Disabling com.google.android.gms result in notifications " this app will not work" but all apps work. Remove com.google.android.gms makes breaks sms. No twrp for 10 iii so can't flash microg/picog only maybe with adb?
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Goggle Play Services not GMS, leave that alone.
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Goggle Play Services not GMS, leave that alone.
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Gms is gmscore, and gmscore is Play Service on xperia 10 iii android 11.
echo124 said:
Gms is gmscore, and gmscore is Play Service on xperia 10 iii android 11.
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No clue what you're talking about. Google Play Services is needed for Playstore, Gmail and other apps to run. It wasn't retired with Android 10,11 or 12, it's a core Google service.
This may help.
blackhawk said:
No clue what you're talking about. Google Play Services is needed for Playstore, Gmail and other apps to run. It wasn't retired with Android 10,11 or 12, it's a core Google service.
This may help.
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You say disable or remove play services - can't be done on xperia 10 iii without breaking sms function or getting error "this app will not work without play services". You say gms service is different from play service? Is not, is same .apk. So you have xperia 10 iii? Why give advice if you don't have phone?
echo124 said:
You say disable or remove play services - can't be done on xperia 10 iii without breaking sms function. You say gms service is different from play service? Is not, is same .apk. So you have xperia 10 iii why give advice if you don't have phone?
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I worked it out by myself to find the work around in my case. It may or may not work for all. You may have to make modifications to raw input provided.
I use whatever comes in handy to find a solution including cross platforming with other brands, models and firmware versions, successfully.
You don't ever see me posting this type of thread unless I found a solution. There are limits to my patience. Good luck.
blackhawk said:
I worked it out by myself to find the work around in my case. It may or may not work for all. You may have to make modifications to raw input provided.
I use whatever comes in handy to find a solution including cross platforming with other brands, models and firmware versions, successfully.
You don't ever see me posting this type of thread unless I found a solution. There are limits to my patience. Good luck.
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Bla-bla-bla.
Danke.
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I've gone gapps-free and have replaced everything except for the Play Store. Does anyone have experience with this?
There seems to be two good solutions for this, but both come with issues:
- Yalp Store (access to all free apps is okay, but if you want access to apps you've paid for, you need to log in with your google account. this can result in ban due to TOS violation)
- MicroG + Play Store (issue is that the typical 7.1.1 ROMs for the ZF2 don't include signature spoofing, which seems to be required for MicroG + Play Store access)
Has anyone used either of these two routes -- or any other route, really -- and had success? Thanks!
adobrakic said:
I've gone gapps-free and have replaced everything except for the Play Store. Does anyone have experience with this?
There seems to be two good solutions for this, but both come with issues:
- Yalp Store (access to all free apps is okay, but if you want access to apps you've paid for, you need to log in with your google account. this can result in ban due to TOS violation)
- MicroG + Play Store (issue is that the typical 7.1.1 ROMs for the ZF2 don't include signature spoofing, which seems to be required for MicroG + Play Store access)
Has anyone used either of these two routes -- or any other route, really -- and had success? Thanks!
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Why not just use gapps?
dcduartee said:
Why not just use gapps?
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to help: gain more control over my device, increase privacy, decrease battery consumption, and overcome being bored.
I have a Verizon Pixel XL Non-rooted running 7.1.1 (NOF27B) and i keep getting this wakelock from Google Play Services. From my understanding it is from Google Firebase Analytics.
Since I'm not rooted, I can't install a "Package Disable Service" app to turn off this (PackageMeasurementService) service in the Google Play Services app.
Is there any other way to disable Google Firebase Analytics without root? I hate the fact that i can't root or get rid of these wakelocks. Or maybe there is a way to figure out what app is using the firebase analytics, and then i will just uninstall it. Its driving me crazy.
yzbrad99 said:
I have a Verizon Pixel XL Non-rooted running 7.1.1 (NOF27B) and i keep getting this wakelock from Google Play Services. From my understanding it is from Google Firebase Analytics.
Since I'm not rooted, I can't install a "Package Disable Service" app to turn off this (PackageMeasurementService) service in the Google Play Services app.
Is there any other way to disable Google Firebase Analytics without root? I hate the fact that i can't root or get rid of these wakelocks. Or maybe there is a way to figure out what app is using the firebase analytics, and then i will just uninstall it. Its driving me crazy.
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Hey... What is your Google play services version? Have you tried updating it?
5.1 said:
Hey... What is your Google play services version? Have you tried updating it?
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Version 10.2.98 (440-146496160)
I haven't tried updating it. I will though. Thanks
yzbrad99 said:
Version 10.2.98 (440-146496160)
I haven't tried updating it. I will though. Thanks
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Hey... For a moment I thought an outdated version might cause the issue. But the only new version available is the beta.
I have a little idea... Maybe you could try disabling all user applications in settings > apps > your app(s)>disable.
You could target those that were installed/updated, if you know approximately when it started. If you're unsure, disable all apps and see if the wakelock occurs yet. If not, enable them one by one... Sorry I don't have anything else in mind at the moment.
Good luck...
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Hey... For a moment I thought an outdated version might cause the issue. But the only new version available is the beta.
I have a little idea... Maybe you could try disabling all user applications in settings > apps > your app(s)>disable.
You could target those that were installed/updated, if you know approximately when it started. If you're unsure, disable all apps and see if the wakelock occurs yet. If not, enable them one by one... Sorry I don't have anything else in mind at the moment.
Good luck...
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I'm going to try this now. I installed the Beta and it seems to be the same.
yzbrad99 said:
I'm going to try this now. I installed the Beta and it seems to be the same.
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So it's most likely a rogue app... Hoping you don't have 200 apps on your phone
Good luck...
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So it's most likely a rogue app... Hoping you don't have 200 apps on your phone
Good luck...
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So far no luck. I have alot of apps. So this will probably take a week or so... ?
Is there a replacement operating system for an a70 phone. I want to clear google and all affiliates from my phone permanently. Thank you.
Yes, i suppose it's possible.
Flash Lineage OS to your phone (without GApps.)
adigha said:
Yes, i suppose it's possible.
Flash Lineage OS to your phone (without GApps.)
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I have done exactly this and I love it. For apps, I either search google for alternative download locations, or I use F-droid and Aurora Store.
The only real issue I have encountered is that not all apps use their own service for push notification and are dependent on gapps background services, or the app has to be allowed to run constantly in the background. Small price to pay to be able to ditch Google imho
I used this apps it's really capable of uninstalling the bloatware on Android 11 Oos. I am not the developer of this apps, just sharing it. But be careful while uninstalling the bloatware apps. You end up in bootloop if you delete the essential system apps. So, be careful while uninstalling the system app, I myself and the developers are not liable in anyway if you brick your phone or any damage caused to your device.
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I don't know if this really works, system partition is protected from any tampering. Deactivating shouldn't be a problem, but i don't think it will really remove it, otherwise Android wouldn't boot
TheSSJ said:
I don't know if this really works, system partition is protected from any tampering. Deactivating shouldn't be a problem, but i don't think it will really remove it, otherwise Android wouldn't boot
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Yes, I don't know how this apps works but it really does it's job. Unlike magisk module debloater, apps doesn't restores after uninstalling this apps.
Is gboard from Google removable or OnePlus Games without root?
I guess the Google app's contacts, agenda and Google drives aren't removable without breaking those functions in Android?
PUNKM
Sex Pistols said:
Is gboard from Google removable or OnePlus Games without root?
I guess the Google app's contacts, agenda and Google drives aren't removable without breaking those functions in Android?
PUNKM
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You need to root your device to remove it.
Confirmed working with root
When I root my device bank-app's for paying don't work anymore and that's what I really need as the most used apps on my Android mobile.
Now I've 5 or 6 apps that I don't update but those apps stay in the list of updates for apps. That is very annoying. Isn't there a way to hide those apps?
Sex Pistols said:
When I root my device bank-app's for paying don't work anymore and that's what I really need as the most used apps on my Android mobile.
Now I've 5 or 6 apps that I don't update but those apps stay in the list of updates for apps. That is very annoying. Isn't there a way to hide those apps?
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You can simply disable in apps options. And you don't even need to root for ir.
I did shut them down and set them off, but the gboard and gamespace app's stay in the list for updates.
Gmail can be set completely off (and even deleted) and don't show up for update.
Just as Contacts and Agenda from Google, but when you set those completely off, Outlook don't work anymore and it's not possible to set a new contact or appointment in the phone or Outlook-app.
Outlook or the Android system give an error like: no native app installed?
Yeah great!?
I lately get A LOT of warnings that something is using microphone, during apps, and even in lockscreen.
I don't have the always on permission on any app.
Is it the same for you? How can I check the causes?
gpvecchi said:
I lately get A LOT of warnings that something is using microphone, during apps, and even in lockscreen.
I don't have the always on permission on any app.
Is it the same for you? How can I check the causes?
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Uninstall Google Translate.
Have you tried going into settings privacy and then permissions manager and see what it says for microphone
gpvecchi said:
I lately get A LOT of warnings that something is using microphone, during apps, and even in lockscreen.
I don't have the always on permission on any app.
Is it the same for you? How can I check the causes?
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Now playing, google assistant hotword, voice access, live caption, live transcribe, sound amplifier, sound notifications... there are so many features that use the microphone in the background. Are you absolutely sure that you deactivated ALL of them? And those are only the pre-installed Google Pixel features.
What kind of apps have you installed?
A post like that is not very helpful, there is simply not enough information. There can be a thousand reasons as to why the microphones get accessed in the background.
I had the same thing happening to me, then I was scrolling through Developer options one day and realized that the "Shared Data" option was highlighted, so I clicked ot and there were like 3 million "snippets" from Google translate in there. I never even OPENED the app since I got my phone. I uninstalled Google Translate and that option got greyed out. Check your developer options and see if that's highlighted.
Thanks guys, the only app that used mic in privacy settings is Google app...
gpvecchi said:
Thanks guys, the only app that used mic in privacy settings is Google app...
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I guess that's good since it makes it less likely that you've installed a rogue app.
I think Google has gotten better with privacy, and can still do considerably better, but your title is wrong and misleading.
As others have noted above, Google needs access to your mike to be able to provide a bunch of its features, like Assistant and Playing Now. You can turn these off if you don't want the mike on.
Google controls the OS, s if they really wanted to "spy" on you, they would not be throwing warnings...
Where's your faraday hat?
Google's business is spying on you.
Best tips:
Root your device, cut away any/all Google apps and services as well as other malware like Facebook and replace them with alternatives except the few you can't live without.
Install a tool like App Manager (from F-droid) and strictly set permissions for everything running on your device
Run LSPosed+Xprivacy modules (requires Riru) and block out unwanted access from both apps and system processes.
If you are worried about your privacy then i am not sure buying a google product is the best place to start to protect it if i am honest.
bencozzy said:
GrapheneOS??? Sandboxes gapps in a separate user profile.
Root adds additional vulnerabilities.
Root works for devices that don't have aftermarket firmwares to degoogle but it weakens security.
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Root adds additional vulnerabilities.
Nope
Root works for devices that don't have aftermarket firmwares to degoogle but it weakens security.
Nope
Andrologic said:
Root adds additional vulnerabilities.
Nope
Root works for devices that don't have aftermarket firmwares to degoogle but it weakens security.
Nope
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