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[REVIEW] [VIDEO] Clarivue tempered glass protector for Samsung Galaxy S3 (XT Glass)

Here's my review for the Clarivue tempered glass protector (XT Glass):
As you can see in this video that I've shot, it is a TERRIBLE PRODUCT, and has some very serious issues:
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa3T5RpJTgk )
My final conclusion is:
Stay away from it!
I've had experience with two other tempered glass protectors (XGear/Glaszone) - and both are significantly better than the Clarivue one.
Installation:
In the protector package the was also a cleaning tissue, pre moistened in a cleaning solution. Ihave no complaints about it, worked just fine.
The instructions that came with the protector were incorrect, they showed how to install Clarivue's film protector, and not the glass one.
But, I have past experience with installing tempered glass protectors (about 4-5 installs of other protectors so far) - so I knew exactly what to do.
I know for sure that my installation process was flawless, I installed it in a steamed room (to avoid dust particles stuck under the glass) while using air pressure spray can to blow away dust, and made sure it is perfectly aligned and no dust is trapped under the protector before sticking it to the phone.
Made it perfectly and very accurately on a single attempt, so I'm pretty convinced that the issues I experienced had nothing to do with the sticky part wearing off, or to bad/wrong installation.
Fit:
The protector fits quite well to the phone, and appears like it has no issues on first glance, BUT:
1. VERY ANNOYING: when pressing the protector against the phone, it CLICKS horribly (demonstrated in the video review). I was hoping that this will disappear over time, but it didn't, and the problem lasted for the whole week I've had the protector on my phone.
2. There's a 'rainbow puddle' on the center of the screen, very noticeable and annoying.
Touch/Sensitivity:
The main/worst problem with this product. A total disappointment!
1. Very randomly, without any noticeable reason - touches are simply not registered.
2. Very often, simple swipes across the screen (such as going through an Instagram feed) - were registered as clicks/double clicks (using the Instagram example: photos on Instagram received 'likes' for no reason). or: while flipping through the home screens, programs are running randomly. flipping through the installed apps - same thing.
3. Sometimes single clicks were registered as double clicks.
The video demonstrates how touches are not registered, tested using: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tsaysoft.touchtest
After a week of SUFFERING with these issues, I couldn't stand it any longer and removed the protector.
Proximity Sensor:
The proximity sensor is totally blocked, which makes is impossible to end phone calls (screen is darkened until the other side ends the call), or to access the phone while in a call. tested using: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tigermonster.proxfinder
Only way to get around it is to disable the proximity sensor from the phone settings (or get rid of this protector, like I did).
I'm familiar with this problem on the first/second versions of the XGear protector, but XGear has solved it by simply cutting a hole above the protector, which solves it.
For those familiar with this issue: my phone measures 8cm (vs. 5cm on other units). I haven't tested it on a phone that measures 5cm.
Customer support:
They have dragged me through emails for over a MONTH, refusing to issue me a refund me for this very defected/faulty product - after I've proven beyond any doubt that the product is simply faulty.
TERRIBLE CUSTOMER SUPPORT. I would never buy a Clarivue product EVER AGAIN, and recommend all of you to do the same.
After a month of emails back and forth, their final offer was that I'll send them the product (shipping will be on my expense), so they will be able to inspect it, and then if its found defective - they'll give me a refund minus a 'restocking fee'.
Sending it to them (overseas, I dont live in the US) will cost me almost like a new product from a different company.
I obviously refused, and have made them a promise - that I'll share my experiences with Clarivue with the world and online communities, so others can stay away from going through such a nightmare.
It is VERY SAD and unacceptable, that such a company with such a bad customer service/products, have somehow managed to build a good reputation, for no reason.
Save your money, and dont even bother to buy this product, there are better alternatives out there (XGear's Clarivue/Glaszone were tested by me, and are much better. there are other alternatives that I didnt try yet, such as SGP and Seidio).
Have anyone else here have experienced the same from this product/other Clarivue products/their customer support?
Please help other community members by spreading the word and giving heads up to other potential customers that might lose their money and find themselves frustrated over Clarivue's bad customer service, and terrible products.
- David

[REVIEW] amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector

Hello all!
First time posting in a while, so forgive me if I'm a bit rusty. I just got my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ yesterday, and my amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector today, so I thought I'd write up a little review. Sorry for no pics, but I was busy installing and trying to keep things dust-free
I've used Whitestone in the past but was disappointed with both my Note 8 and 9 installs, primarily because of the LOCA spiderwebbing on the edges. I figured I'd give another brand a shot, so I went searching here and found the amFilm Ultra Glass Screen Protector. A quick trip over to Amazon, and $40 later (for a full kit including *2* protectors) and here we are!
PACKAGING: The box is nice - wider and flatter than the WS product. It's clean and simple, but professional looking. Plus their website and install video are well done also. Inside the outer box are three smaller boxes. The largest contains the plastic frame, screen protectors, and wipes (I think). The medium size box contains the UV light and the MicroUSB cable. It appears to be identical to the WS product, but I don't know this for a fact, so take that for what it's worth. The smallest box contains the LOCA (2 tubes), extra absorption pads, plastic pin, tabs to place over the speaker, a bubble level, and a weight. Everything you need comes in this kit, including plenty of wet and dry wipes, microfiber cloths, and dust removal stickers. On the packaging is a QR code to go to the install video.
PRODUCT: Everything seems to be on the same quality scale as the WS product, with a few minor changes - 1) there is no LOCA applicator "bridge", you have to aim and dribble the solution by hand, 2) the pin is different - there's no more tilting the entire phone to move the liquid into position - the pin is angled and sets the glass down at an angle, and 3) the "fingerprint" weight (more on this later). Otherwise, if you've done the WS before, this isn't significantly different.
INSTALLATION: **REMINDER** REMOVE the factory plastic screen protector and clean your screen THOROUGHLY before proceeding! I ALMOST forgot, which would have been a disaster! I watched the video twice and didn't see any mention of this, so amFilm, here's a tip for you Anyway, installation is straightforward -put the little feet on the bottom of the phone to bring it flush with the pins inside, make sure the screen is 100% clean, install the sticker over the speaker, apply the liquid (making sure to absorb any "splatter" before proceeding!), peel the protective film off the glass, place it, and pull the pin. Once the liquid starts to spread, put the weight where the fingerprint sensor is and let it settle and "ooze" for 3-ish minutes. (NOTE - it's hard to locate the fingerprint scanner, so you might want to mark the frame in advance with a Sharpie (another tip for amFilm - marking that plastic with some kind of raised bumps or hash marks might be a good idea, or maybe a film for on top of the glass that marks where to place it - just a thought). After that, it's bake-time under the UV light, then you're done.
RESULTS: I'm very impressed so far. The glass appears to be nice and clear, and I can't even see the little "spots" in the corners others mentioned. I lucked out this time and no dust specs at all. No bubbles, etc. the fingerprint scanner appears to be working fine, although I haven't re-registered anything. It DOES require a little extra "umph" to scan, but that's not a big deal. Part of that could be me getting used to an in-screen scanner. There was minimal over-oozing, and the pre-installed pads absorbed everything fine. Barely needed a wipedown afterward.
FITMENT: There appears to be no flaws in placement using the guide, or in the fitment of the glass. It sits flat, and lines up exactly where it should. The cutout for the front-facing camera is exactly where it should be, and it's not overly-exaggerated in size. The edges leave plenty of room for putting the phone in a case (I've tried 4 so far, all fit without touching the glass edge, so there's no worry about case push on the glue). The bottom edge is just a tad bit short, maybe a 1/16", but that could be allowing for larger cases (I don't use the big bulky ones, so IDK).
OVERALL ASSESSMENT: 4.5/5 Stars - Great product, especially for the price. I'll keep you posted on long-term wear & quality, but for now, I'd say it's a great deal versus the competition.

Thanks for the feedback, just got my note 10 plus and am trying to filter out the paid/promo reviews vs legit ones.
I may go this route with amfilm as well. i bought the tech matte clear case, so i hope it fits well within it without popping off.
hows your experience after putting it in a case?

I applied mine the other day, and while I'm happy with the fit & finish, my fingerprint reader is spotty at best. In addition, my frame snapped, so I need to contact customer support to send me another one. because it snapped it ended up leaking LOCA all over the place, too.

entropism said:
I applied mine the other day, and while I'm happy with the fit & finish, my fingerprint reader is spotty at best. In addition, my frame snapped, so I need to contact customer support to send me another one. because it snapped it ended up leaking LOCA all over the place, too.
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Isn't that glue suppose to cure? When you say it snapped did it spill liquid after the snap?

joogle said:
Isn't that glue suppose to cure? When you say it snapped did it spill liquid after the snap?
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The frame snapped during install, without me noticing. Because it wasn't holding everything in place very well, the glue ran EVERYWHERE. Under the phone, over the sides, etc.
So yes, once I got everything fixed as well as I could, the glue cured fine. But you don't cure it until you're basically done and ready to go.

entropism said:
The frame snapped during install, without me noticing. Because it wasn't holding everything in place very well, the glue ran EVERYWHERE. Under the phone, over the sides, etc.
So yes, once I got everything fixed as well as I could, the glue cured fine. But you don't cure it until you're basically done and ready to go.
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If you turn sensitivity on, does that resolve the fingerprint issue?

No, sensitivity is already up. I’ll have to replace the protector soon anyways, we’ll see if another install will make things better.

entropism said:
No, sensitivity is already up. I’ll have to replace the protector soon anyways, we’ll see if another install will make things better.
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The September update includes improved finger printer recognition.

Ok I decided to go ahead and buy the amfilm note 10 plus screen protector from Amazon. Watched their video and then another on Youtube like twice. I think I got the install right, the whole weight placing situation is a guesstimate, if they are reading this thread - put something on the tray to take the guessing out of the process, like a stick with a weight so it stays in one spot.
Also, the glue stick - be careful when lifting it to make sure no drop falls out - i didnt put the black cap back on - saw an extra few big drops fall on my desk - no biggie - but if it was on the screen would have been a hassle.
then the UV light shuts off at 45 seconds - their last instruction is to keep it lit for 60 seconds - they should probably adjust it - again not a big issue.
in terms of quality of the screen protector - looks good - its a thin piece of glass - hopefully it protects the screen. the fingerprint sensor - its been a hit/miss kind of. i added my same thumb print twice, sometimes it has to read directly in the middle of the thumb, othertimes i feel like i have to press harder. I didn't try the fingerprint sensor before the screen protector so don't know if its just the way it is.
I would rate this like 3.5 / 5 -- i think tempered glass is solid, the fingerprint sensor can be annoying, its not really that smooth like if you slightly put your finger/thumb on it that it will open. like literally it won't take it on first try, on second or third try it will take - that is the most annoying part about it.
the install process was decent, as long as you watch the videos first - its straight forward.
price wise its sucky - i wish they would sell this for $20 - even with just one screen protector. $40 is steep, replacement protectors they can probably price between $7 to $10 i feel.
By the way this is the same UV type device used to cure fingernail paint - lol - your household may already have one.
I don't have the Whitestone to compare to. But I can say man the Samsung film screen protector is solid, used it for few days, even when taking it off it was on perfectly. I kind of miss it but i think tempered glass will offer more protection on a fall.

Pictures, please.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VKHMK9J/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_apa_i_2oX0DbYMHRS0A
I've installed two of these protectors on a note 10 + and a note 10. I did have the issue with the frame cracking with the note 10+ but the company has since fixed that issue.
I've used WDG for a few years now and this one has exceeded my expectations and is better than Whitestone.
The installation is simple and comes with a weighted cylinder that's used when you're curing the glass with the UV light. I've had zero issues with the finger scanner as well as my daughter on her note 10. I actually put the cylinder on while the glue was spreading. I can actually see a circle where the finger print scanner is at and I think this is a recipe for success. I've installed these just after release and they still look brand new. Scanner works great! I can provide forage if anyone is interested. The price is great for getting two in the box. I highly recommend!

Anyone grab any screen protectors yet?

I'd really hate having to spend $50 dollars on a new Whitestone protector. I've seen some cheaper alternatives on Alibaba for the Note 10 and S10 series, but nothing for the S20 Ultra. Any alternative suggestions other than leave the default film protector for now?

So I used to use the Whitestone Dome on all my phones but I found out that assurion has a screen only replacement for phones, I paid a deductible of $35 for my S10+ and someone came to my house and fixed my phone. Since this day, I stopped buying screen protector
Note. I have no idea if the Ultra will have the same screen replacement program, I assume it does.

I have been using whitestone since the S8+.
Rarely do I get a perfect install, but today I got pretty close on my S10 ultra. Bubble free, some small specs of dust that you don't see unless on an all-white screen.
It was an easier install this time due to the curved edges being reduced to much less of a curve.

Samzebian said:
I have been using whitestone since the S8+.
Rarely do I get a perfect install, but today I got pretty close on my S10 ultra. Bubble free, some small specs of dust that you don't see unless on an all-white screen.
It was an easier install this time due to the curved edges being reduced to much less of a curve.
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How is the ultrasonic fingerprint scanner performing after the install?

teamfresno said:
How is the ultrasonic fingerprint scanner performing after the install?
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I just found out about the whitestone and this was my first time using one. I learned the hard way that a perfectly level surface is not a suggestion. So first install was an utter fail. I used the backup screen and it went ok, had to wait for like 5 minutes for the liquid to fully spread. i assume this was from the failed first attempt. Once it fully spread, i moved the screen around to get it perfectly placed so that i couldn't see any air pockets underneath the corners. then i used the UV light to cure it and everything looks great now.
To answer your question, the fingerprint reader has worked flawless for me. Since i immediately put on the protector, i didnt get to use the finger print reader much before. So its hard to compare, but there is minimal delay for me for it reading the finger print. Honestly 90% of the time the camera picks up my face and unlocks before i have the chance to use the finger print.

bwachtel said:
I just found out about the whitestone and this was my first time using one. I learned the hard way that a perfectly level surface is not a suggestion. So first install was an utter fail. I used the backup screen and it went ok, had to wait for like 5 minutes for the liquid to fully spread. i assume this was from the failed first attempt. Once it fully spread, i moved the screen around to get it perfectly placed so that i couldn't see any air pockets underneath the corners. then i used the UV light to cure it and everything looks great now.
To answer your question, the fingerprint reader has worked flawless for me. Since i immediately put on the protector, i didnt get to use the finger print reader much before. So its hard to compare, but there is minimal delay for me for it reading the finger print. Honestly 90% of the time the camera picks up my face and unlocks before i have the chance to use the finger print.
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I had the same issues and since I never used a glass and yet alone a wet application screen protector I botched the first one. The adhesive didn't roll down the then little circle and I accidentally tilted it to the right. Everything went wrong. Cleaned it went for the 2nd one and I was super careful after letting the adhesive out. It was still a bit to the side but I was able to slightly tilt it and center the drop. Once I pulled the tab it spread as evenly as it could have but I had a slight air bubble on the top left. I waited about 2min but it wasn't moving so I applied slight pressure from right to left to spread it a bit and it ended up spreading evenly after.
Idk if I ****ed it up again but we will see if it holds. It feels and looks amazing and I'm glad to get rid of the oem film as that **** scratches by breathing on it.

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I had the same issues and since I never used a glass and yet alone a wet application screen protector I botched the first one. The adhesive didn't roll down the then little circle and I accidentally tilted it to the right. Everything went wrong. Cleaned it went for the 2nd one and I was super careful after letting the adhesive out. It was still a bit to the side but I was able to slightly tilt it and center the drop. Once I pulled the tab it spread as evenly as it could have but I had a slight air bubble on the top left. I waited about 2min but it wasn't moving so I applied slight pressure from right to left to spread it a bit and it ended up spreading evenly after.
Idk if I ****ed it up again but we will see if it holds. It feels and looks amazing and I'm glad to get rid of the oem film as that **** scratches by breathing on it.
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My OEM protector had nicks and scratches out of the box...
Pretty much same scenario you described. Put mine on Tuesday night and no issues so far. I think we will be fine so long as you had no air bubbles before the curing.

I Noticed a tiny delay when using the screen protector. I did re-enroll my fingers, but it was slightly faster for me with the oem protector. (which offers only scratch protection)

Do you guys believe the S20 Series of device would be fine with non loca screenprotectors? those available for practically all other flat screen devices? since the screen isn't curved that extreme anymore.

Seems a tad faster than the Note 10+ with the Domeglass protector.
Something changed with these protectors over the last year. I used to get perfect installations every time. Last 4 had bubbles even though I follow the instructions to the letter. These will also crack VERY easily. Think this may be my last DG..

Mike02z said:
Seems a tad faster than the Note 10+ with the Domeglass protector.
Something changed with these protectors over the last year. I used to get perfect installations every time. Last 4 had bubbles even though I follow the instructions to the letter. These will also crack VERY easily. Think this may be my last DG..
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Don't they have lifetime warranty

Whitestone and tamoria both an epic FAIL
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They male them thinner for fingerprint
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S20 ultra comes with a screen protector pre installed.
Why would you put another on?

socalstagetech said:
S20 ultra comes with a screen protector pre installed.
Why would you put another on?
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use it for a couple of month and you know why....

Question Hard time with fingerprint

Just bought S22 6.1" and fingerprint scanner is failing a lot with me. My S21 I don't even have to press hard and it is rare to miss with it.
I have model S901E with snapdragon, on AVA7.

Same phone but what's S901E - isn't that 1U? Anyways, the fp sensor is perfectly accurate on mine, an instant reaction.

mzsquared said:
Same phone but what's S901E - isn't that 1U? Anyways, the fp sensor is perfectly accurate on mine, an instant reaction.
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I'm from Brasil. I guess S901E is for snapdragon version outside USA. That's the first time we get snapdragon here in Brazil.

goTouch said:
I'm from Brasil. I guess S901E is for snapdragon version outside USA. That's the first time we get snapdragon here in Brazil.
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Good to know, never saw the E on galaxy models before. And you have problems the fp sensor? I hated it on S10 models but that was different sensor, the current one worked fine on my S21 and now the S22 sensor is perfect too. I registered twice my right hand thumb and 2x right index finger they both work with even a short touch.

mzsquared said:
Good to know, never saw the E on galaxy models before. And you have problems the fp sensor? I hated it on S10 models but that was different sensor, the current one worked fine on my S21 and now the S22 sensor is perfect too. I registered twice my right hand thumb and 2x right index finger they both work with even a short touch.
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On my S21, it just needed a light touch with a very light press. But now I realize one thing. I did not pill off the screen protector that came with S22. In fact, it is not a screen protector for daily use. Do you think it is the reason fingerprint is worse than s10

goTouch said:
On my S21, it just needed a light touch with a very light press. But now I realize one thing. I did not pill off the screen protector that came with S22. In fact, it is not a screen protector for daily use. Do you think it is the reason fingerprint is worse than s10
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yes, that plastic foil wrap won't let the scanner read your fingerprint. It's not optical but rather like a mini radar scanning the print ridges on your finger tip.

mzsquared said:
yes, that plastic foil wrap won't let the scanner read your fingerprint. It's not optical but rather like a mini radar scanning the print ridges on your finger tip.
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S21 came with screen protector, but a real one. Simple but it did the job. And fingerprint worked perfectly. I thought I could keep this upper plastic that came with s22 until my screen protector was delivered. I'm gonna try without it.

I exchanged my S22 yesterday because the fingerprint sensor was failing so often (plus random, 20 minute long network disconnects). I lost my preorder storage upgrade, but the new device works perfectly.

have you tried to remove current fingerprints and add new ones?
Submit an error report after replicating the issue
Samsung Members app > Get help > Send feedback > Error reports

With a screen protector, it failed every time for me.
I'm using the Omotion that I bought on Amazon.
I did try removing the current prints and adding new ones with little luck. In this case it will work 1 in 10 tries if you press very hard.
Remove screen protector, works perfectly.
As I'm looking for another screen protector, I'm checking reviews for any comments on "fingerprint"

Rudabaugh said:
With a screen protector, it failed every time for me.
I'm using the Omotion that I bought on Amazon.
I did try removing the current prints and adding new ones with little luck. In this case it will work 1 in 10 tries if you press very hard.
Remove screen protector, works perfectly.
As I'm looking for another screen protector, I'm checking reviews for any comments on "fingerprint"
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Go with the Amfilm "Hybrid" glass. Glass still works poorly on Ultrasonic sensors, so you want a TPU or "hybrid" (semi-hard plastic) protector to have it work properly. These are the same material (and IMHO better quality) than the Zagg protectors they're trying to charge $50 for.

Also you can increase the touch sensitivity. My scanner is hit or miss with my glass protector but I'd take protection over the fingerprint scanner. I wish Samsung went optical and this wouldn't be an issue.

"New" and perfect Note 10+ "refurb" - phone perfect but is there any way to test if the factory screen skin is installed?

I ost my Note 10+ a few days ago, a first for me. I immediately considered it found and stolen as I could see the person who found it via GPS, driving about the area where it fell off of my truck. So after two unanswered calls to said phone? I immediately wiped it and so at least my very minor personal data is secured. Whomever it as, *did* happen to get a very extensive, 40,000+ file .flac/.mp3 library on my spare SD Card but that's quite redundantly maintained/backed up so no real loss.
I immediately bought an exact replica of the lost Note 10+ from the same great seller as before, an ebay "excellent" condition refurb. The phone was here in 2 days then a quick visit to the local ATT store and I'm now back in business as usual, taking literally about 20 minutes to have the exact same phone/usage apps/settings and basically a Note 10+ set up precisely as my former phone had been. This is a relative topic with most users, myself included, as each of us may more or less appeciate any given app or feature ... but for me? Google sync and restore is a metaphorical Golden Unicorn(tm) lol.
But to my main question...
How can I determine if the Samsung default screen protector/film is installed on this new "refurb."
The screen on this unit is flawless, having no discernable marks or scratches, not even of the micro variety. But I have noticed that the thumbprint sensor is quite more responsive than my previous Note 10+ which definitely had the stock screen protector as, over the years, it had began to bubble ever so slightly and in certain places.
I've examined the edges of the new screen at great length under more than ample lighting and with very good magnification equipment and can find no visible "seam" or otherwise around the edges and where one would expect to find such a seam for any phone panel that had one of those super thin, super transparent protectors installed.
I will say that I found the stock Samsung protector on my first Note 10+ to be quite good, as good as any of the "tempered glass" varieties I'd used with previous phones though after two years of fairly rough use, there were small areas appearing where the Samsung factory screen film was beginning to show it's natural limitations.
So any ideas short of close examination with a good light source and high quality magnifying glasses would be welcome. If I do determine it is completely lacking in the inclusion of the factory installed panel film/protector (only reason I can imagine is if the previous user had removed it) then I will of course want to begin researching an appropriate 3rd party option that works well while maintaining solid use of the fingerprint sensor...
So any tips would be welcome...
Thanks in advance,
Joel Harris

The front cam hole will likely have a cut out in the screen protector if present. Slight seams are visible on one or more of the edges. Also the glass feels different than any plastic protector. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a good wet apply protector.

s1rrah said:
I ost my Note 10+ a few days ago, a first for me. I immediately considered it found and stolen as I could see the person who found it via GPS, driving about the area where it fell off of my truck. So after two unanswered calls to said phone? I immediately wiped it and so at least my very minor personal data is secured. Whomever it as, *did* happen to get a very extensive, 40,000+ file .flac/.mp3 library on my spare SD Card but that's quite redundantly maintained/backed up so no real loss.
I immediately bought an exact replica of the lost Note 10+ from the same great seller as before, an ebay "excellent" condition refurb. The phone was here in 2 days then a quick visit to the local ATT store and I'm now back in business as usual, taking literally about 20 minutes to have the exact same phone/usage apps/settings and basically a Note 10+ set up precisely as my former phone had been. This is a relative topic with most users, myself included, as each of us may more or less appeciate any given app or feature ... but for me? Google sync and restore is a metaphorical Golden Unicorn(tm) lol.
But to my main question...
How can I determine if the Samsung default screen protector/film is installed on this new "refurb."
The screen on this unit is flawless, having no discernable marks or scratches, not even of the micro variety. But I have noticed that the thumbprint sensor is quite more responsive than my previous Note 10+ which definitely had the stock screen protector as, over the years, it had began to bubble ever so slightly and in certain places.
I've examined the edges of the new screen at great length under more than ample lighting and with very good magnification equipment and can find no visible "seam" or otherwise around the edges and where one would expect to find such a seam for any phone panel that had one of those super thin, super transparent protectors installed.
I will say that I found the stock Samsung protector on my first Note 10+ to be quite good, as good as any of the "tempered glass" varieties I'd used with previous phones though after two years of fairly rough use, there were small areas appearing where the Samsung factory screen film was beginning to show it's natural limitations.
So any ideas short of close examination with a good light source and high quality magnifying glasses would be welcome. If I do determine it is completely lacking in the inclusion of the factory installed panel film/protector (only reason I can imagine is if the previous user had removed it) then I will of course want to begin researching an appropriate 3rd party option that works well while maintaining solid use of the fingerprint sensor...
So any tips would be welcome...
Thanks in advance,
Joel Harris
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Most likely, Being a refurb with flawless screen, it probably had it's screen replaced and replacement screens don't ship with that Samsung factory screen protector on them. Most likely no screen protector in place

blackhawk said:
The front cam hole will likely have a cut out in the screen protector if present. Slight seams are visible on one or more of the edges. Also the glass feels different than any plastic protector. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a good wet apply protector.
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Thanks mate ...
Checked all the obvious variables and there's def no protector on the screen.
I found tons of "IQ Shield" variants on Amazon but none specifically made by Gorilla, which is a brand I tend to trust. Any further info?
In the interim, I bought this uber cheap but very well reviewed cheapo. If it works half as good as the reviews seem to indicate then it should be fine.
Thanks again ....

s1rrah said:
Thanks mate ...
Checked all the obvious variables and there's def no protector on the screen.
I found tons of "IQ Shield" variants on Amazon but none specifically made by Gorilla, which is a brand I tend to trust. Any further info?
In the interim, I bought this uber cheap but very well reviewed cheapo. If it works half as good as the reviews seem to indicate then it should be fine.
Thanks again ....
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Get a couple, just in case. Things must be as dust free as possible ie spotless on the glass and room where applied. Don't touch the glass or back surface of the protector. Use enough of the fluid to get it aligned spot then work the air bubbles out. Watch it to make sure it stays adhered to the curve portions of the screen.
Just press and briefly hold if it lifts up. Use a little of the fluid if needed. If it ever lifts up on the sides later as long as no dust or dirt get under it, it can be reattached with a little water and pressing it down.
Leave it set up for at least a couple hours before using if possible. Mind the edges don't lift, usually after 10 minutes that's no longer an issue. Any small micro bubbles will be absorb in a few days... not big air bubbles though.
The Zizo Bolt is an excellent case for it.
That's all I use, zero damage in almost 3 years.
Enjoy, the Beast is a great phone!

blackhawk said:
Get a couple, just in case. Things must be as dust free as possible ie spotless on the glass and room where applied. Don't touch the glass or back surface of the protector. Use enough of the fluid to get it aligned spot then work the air bubbles out. Watch it to make sure it stays adhered to the curve portions of the screen.
Just press and briefly hold if it lifts up. Use a little of the fluid if needed. If it ever lifts up on the sides later as long as no dust or dirt get under it, it can be reattached with a little water and pressing it down.
Leave it set up for at least a couple hours before using if possible. Mind the edges don't lift, usually after 10 minutes that's no longer an issue. Any small micro bubbles will be absorb in a few days... not big air bubbles though.
The Zizo Bolt is an excellent case for it.
That's all I use, zero damage in almost 3 years.
Enjoy, the Beast is a great phone!
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Thanks for the detailed tips, friend. Much appreciated. But exactly what screen protector are you referring to? The originally mentioned "Q Shield" variant? Or the one I mentioned already ordering, which is the Apiker random find off of Amazon.
If you're referring to a specific brand/model of protector, be it of the "Q Shield" sort or otherwise? Please send me a link if your able to do so.
As it turns out? The randomly ordered Apiker kit I bought from Amazon based solely on user reviews alone, has turned out to be pretty okay. As with many such products, especially those for phones with curved edges, there really is value in going over some install videos and what not but the first application turned out pretty damn good.
The kit came with 4 of everything so for the money and the fact that 2nd and further applications would of course be more intuitive, makes it a decent value.
Also, the Apiker screen kit I bought is not tempered glass but some other sort of material but still has a decent feel overall. The main thing I like is the thumb sensor is still every bit as sensitive/responsive as it was when using the naked, glass screen.
But send me some info on the kit you were referring to that uses what you called "fluid" ... I'll get one of those too lol!
And yeah, mang. Note10+ FTW! Mine was stolen about a week ago .. only time I've ever lost it ... but it wasn't 20 minutes before I'd ordered a new "refurb" off Ebay which I'm currently using now.
I tend to always buy whatever the flagship Sammy was 3 or so years ago and always end up saving tons of money and being very happy with whatever that ends up being. I bought a 1 day temp new Galaxy A12 at the local ATT shop to use till the Note10+ replacement came in and the Note10+ processing speed is WAY better than the A12, which frankly was just a sluggish dog in comparison.
Thanks again for the info..

"IQ Shield"