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I've had this phone for nearly a year at this point, and the main reason I got it was on my OP7P, all the nice custom roms I could try out. However, the difference between there and here is that custom ROMs on that phone had OOS Cam, they also had the ability to dualboot.
I've avoided being on a custom rom this entire time is because I don't want to give up OOS Cam, but what do you guys feel about the lack of it? I know GCam exists but you can't use 4K120/60 video recording with GCam as far as I know. Has there been any changes to the app to allow for that?
I think that more and more people are asking for it to be integrated in custom ROMs. The thing is that on the opposite of the OnePlus 7 OOS cam app, the OnePlus 9 Pro's is heavily tied to OPPO's ColorOS Camera. And from what I understood, ColorOS has been a pain to deal with for developers, as OPPO isn't as community orentied as OnePlus.
That's one of the things stopping me from switching to a custom ROM. When I've tried GCam on OOS, none of the ports are stable enough. I'm not a huge camera user, but if my camera could crash when I WANT to use it, that would piss me off.
I found somewhere in this forum port of OOS cam, photos and videos working, some features missing tho, lucky I don't use them
So, custom ROM can live with OOS cam
Warrkill said:
I found somewhere in this forum port of OOS cam, photos and videos working, some features missing tho, lucky I don't use them
So, custom ROM can live with OOS cam
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That camera is from OP7 AFAIk, and it's next to useless. photo processing is broken, and video fails at 60fps, so people may as well use Gcam since it's does a far better job than that broken port.
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So, this is it. I'm running ZUI 2.5.412 ST, and read somewhere that it has a glass lens and it can compete with many high quality cellphone cameras. The thing is, that with stock camera app I'm not getting nearly the performance on mid light as i see on youtube. Pretty much on outside light it looks amazing (anyway, the fact that i cannot tell the difference there doesn't mean that it's not there). Also there are [email protected] videos there, where the stock camera app and stock zui doesn't let me modify the fps settings at any way, the questions are mostl likely:
1) Is stock camera app the best quality option? I'm not into ROMs and this kind of apps neither, so don't know how much it would change. Could I change the fps and more quality settings with this or that is a ROM-thing
2) I want to flash a new ROM (as I read, Jaguar is the most stable) but, if I'm not mistaken, general camera quality for videos and photos on ROMs tends to be worse, can you confirm me this? Or there's a ROM with good photos and video quality that I can check out? I'm using automatic settings and that's mostly what I look for, anyway wouldnt mind having great manual settings to adjust if i want to for some specific shots!
3) When you flash camera blobs and default camera app on a custom ROM, what does it really mean? I can get stock performance on custom ROMs? Will it work for any camera app as long as I install the blobs?
4) What's the native and best output scalation for front camera and front back camera? Don't know how to tell if the lens are 4:3, 1:1 or 16:9, is there info of that somewhere?
Thank you so much!
Stock ZUI has better camera quality than a custom ROM. AFAIK, no one has ported the ZUI camera app and framework to a custom ROM.
On a Nougat custom ROM without camera2 API support, your best bet is the OnePlus camera app. It does HDR, but photos are still awful. This is the current setup I have, and photos are much worse than the Nexus 5 I migrated from (which used the GCam app with HDR+).
Some Oreo ROMs support camera2 API, so you can use a modded GCam app. Google's HDR+ algorithm produces pretty decent photos. This is probably the highest quality you'll get on a custom ROM - but it's still a little unstable at the moment and I don't know how it compares to the ZUI camera.
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Stock ZUI has better camera quality than a custom ROM. AFAIK, no one has ported the ZUI camera app and framework to a custom ROM.
On a Nougat custom ROM without camera2 API support, your best bet is the OnePlus camera app. It does HDR, but photos are still awful. This is the current setup I have, and photos are much worse than the Nexus 5 I migrated from (which used the GCam app with HDR+).
Some Oreo ROMs support camera2 API, so you can use a modded GCam app. Google's HDR+ algorithm produces pretty decent photos. This is probably the highest quality you'll get on a custom ROM - but it's still a little unstable at the moment and I don't know how it compares to the ZUI camera.
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Yes, but I mean, I saw some photos on youtube/google and also videos, my quality is not even near that, I understand photos could be taken with manual options, but the videos too? Also saw that many low-light videos look slow af, mines doesn't, but the quality is waaaay worse. Don't know what setting I'm missing really. Does the OnePlus camera app let you configure all the settings for photos and video? Or it's as limited as the stock one?
No, the OnePlus app has very few configuration options. It's probably worse than stock in that regard.
You could try flashing one of the ROMs with camera2 API support and see how you find the quality of GCam HDR+. I don't know where you saw videos of fantastic Z2 camera performance - it's always been really disappointing for me personally, regardless of settings or configuration.
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No, the OnePlus app has very few configuration options. It's probably worse than stock in that regard.
You could try flashing one of the ROMs with camera2 API support and see how you find the quality of GCam HDR+. I don't know where you saw videos of fantastic Z2 camera performance - it's always been really disappointing for me personally, regardless of settings or configuration.
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Just saw a few from youtube, I didn't mean it's fantastic, but it's better than mine for sure
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I installed jaguar and didn't find any noticeable difference in quality and jaguar let's u change fps...
Some Oreo ROMs support camera2 API, so you can use a modded GCam app. Google's HDR+ algorithm produces pretty decent photos. This is probably the highest quality you'll get on a custom ROM - but it's still a little unstable at the moment and I don't know how it compares to the ZUI camera.
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Does the modded Google Camera HDR work on these roms?
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Stock ZUI has better camera quality than a custom ROM. AFAIK, no one has ported the ZUI camera app and framework to a custom ROM.
On a Nougat custom ROM without camera2 API support, your best bet is the OnePlus camera app. It does HDR, but photos are still awful. This is the current setup I have, and photos are much worse than the Nexus 5 I migrated from (which used the GCam app with HDR+).
Some Oreo ROMs support camera2 API, so you can use a modded GCam app. Google's HDR+ algorithm produces pretty decent photos. This is probably the highest quality you'll get on a custom ROM - but it's still a little unstable at the moment and I don't know how it compares to the ZUI camera.
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I have a nexus 5 , looking to upgrade. Good choice?
I keep switching between ZUI stock camera app, Open Camera, and Camera MX app.
I guess they process images quite differently from each other so at different condition, different app (out of those 3) produce good results.
I am not a camera guru so I rarely go manual. So I keep switching between those three in auto mode to find the best one to shoot.
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I have a nexus 5 , looking to upgrade. Good choice?
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I got the Z2 early this year - it was a good replacement for the N5. Similar form factor, much better battery life, faster performance. But the N5 has a better camera and the ROM scene was much better.
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I got the Z2 early this year - it was a good replacement for the N5. Similar form factor, much better battery life, faster performance. But the N5 has a better camera and the ROM scene was much better.
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Does the ported GCam work on this? The camera on nexus 5 rocks with HDR+... If it works, this device is mine...
GopalKaul said:
Does the ported GCam work on this? The camera on nexus 5 rocks with HDR+... If it works, this device is mine...
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Yes, but only on Oreo roms because only there does the camera2 api work, and at the time all the Oreo ROMs are on an alpha stage, so unless someone manages to enable c2a on nougat, or if you want to be using an alpha/beta stage roms, you will have to wait a bit for the best experience
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Yes, but only on Oreo roms because only there does the camera2 api work, and at the time all the Oreo ROMs are on an alpha stage, so unless someone manages to enable c2a on nougat, or if you want to be using an alpha/beta stage roms, you will have to wait a bit for the best experience
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So..... I'm gonna get this beast in 2 months?
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Yes, but only on Oreo roms because only there does the camera2 api work, and at the time all the Oreo ROMs are on an alpha stage, so unless someone manages to enable c2a on nougat, or if you want to be using an alpha/beta stage roms, you will have to wait a bit for the best experience
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Thanks for the update. That's encouraging! I would've migrated the phone to Oreo if it were not for the lack of Agps.
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Thanks for the update. That's encouraging! I would've migrated the phone to Oreo if it were not for the lack of Agps.
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There is no GPS on the phone?
GopalKaul said:
There is no GPS on the phone?
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There is gps and Agps, maybe he meant that on actual Oreo roms there's no way to enable Agps, don't know
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There is no GPS on the phone?
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A-GPS is network assisted GPS and it's not yet possible on Oreo for ZUK Z2. GPS on the other hand will work but a location fix will take minutes, that means no instantaneous location sharing or resolution in apps.
Is it safe to assume that the google camera on stock based roms is better than the miui 9 default camera?
Im saying this because I just got the Honor View 10 and will be doing some camera comparisons and dont really want to go back to miui rom.
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Is it safe to assume that the google camera on stock based roms is better than the miui 9 default camera?
Im saying this because I just got the Honor View 10 and will be doing some camera comparisons and dont really want to go back to miui rom.
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Imo yes, Gcam is better. Especially front camera.
In my Mi6, the stock camera was better than Gcam
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In my Mi6, the stock camera was better than Gcam
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Which ROM?
miui9 with Camera2 enable way too much noise
Official Aicp 12.1, Google Camera can't focus, in the end i'm using bacon camera
Unofficial LOS 15.1 Too much noise again
The best picture i could get with my Mi6 was with the stock rom and default camera
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miui9 with Camera2 enable way too much noise
Official Aicp 12.1, Google Camera can't focus, in the end i'm using bacon camera
Unofficial LOS 15.1 Too much noise again
The best picture i could get with my Mi6 was with the stock rom and default camera
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I'm surprised.
Google camera on any ROM I've used has been consistently better than any other set up.
I don't even use HDR+ because of the autofocus issues.
Just normal photos.
Always better than stock camera and others even when using HDR+ with those.
Video is another area though. Only MIUI camera produces consistent video quality.
Gcam just lags and crashes.
Bacon camera was decent enough as an alternative for video.
Currently on AOSPA I have gcam for normal photos and MIUI camera for video and special photos
I was really eager to use Gcam, the phone i had before the Mi6 was a J5 Prime.. So no Gcam either. Everyone said it was an awesome camera, so i waited 72 hours, unlocked bootloader, twrp and then enable camera2.. I tried a few gcam mods and in my Mi6 none of them where superior to the default camera that came with miui9.
Hi, my Redmi Note 5 is arriving and I want to know if I install Ressurrection Remix OS the Gcam app will have the same image quality as if I install it on Miui?
In my opinion it's even better, since you can adjust a lot in the modified versions of the gcam (look out of Arnova and saneklic.)
You can bump up the image quality by quite a bit (also in low light conditions, images can get better). Additionally you have some nice mods (like photosphere, different modis of panorama) which the others don't have. In my opinion the mi camera performs as good or worse than the gcam.
The portrait effect with the blured background can be achieved perfectly by 1 lens again, so no need to use the mi camera for that effect (since lineage snap & gcam use 1 lense only). So there is no need to use miui camera for that one.
Don't forget to activate camera2api (persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1) in the build.prop and you are good2go I hope it helped!
Edit: if you want to use the miui camera anyway, there is a thread where you can flash the .zip file and have it anyway!
I think he means that he would like to know if the gcam performs the same on Miui as on aosp Rom. In the end, is the gcam so good on Miui as the same gcam app on aosp?
Personally I think yes, because they both used camera2api, but I didn't test it.
Is there any way to have an apk of the miui cam to install it on a custom rom?
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Is there any way to have an apk of the miui cam to install it on a custom rom?
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You can use ANX Camera.
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TheBolshe said:
Is there any way to have an apk of the miui cam to install it on a custom rom?
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MIUI Cam is trash! Get a Google Cam (Wyroczen's 7.3v2)
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th1nd said:
MIUI Cam is trash! Get a Google Cam (Wyroczen's 7.3v2)
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Yea Well right now it doesn't seem to be very functional for photos
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Yea Well right now it doesn't seem to be very functional for photos
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You have to find the right config file, makes the difference between 12meg pics and 3meg. I went through 10 different camera apks and 30 different config files till I found one that has working EIS.
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You have to find the right config file, makes the difference between 12meg pics and 3meg. I went through 10 different camera apks and 30 different config files till I found one that has working EIS.
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What APK und confog file did you end up with?
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What APK und confog file did you end up with?
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TrCamera v7 with Deneb XML
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You have to find the right config file, makes the difference between 12meg pics and 3meg. I went through 10 different camera apks and 30 different config files till I found one that has working EIS.
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I may disagree with you, slightly. While MIUI camera isn't really great, it isn't trash.
I've also gone through quite a few gcams and configs. It's a hassle for the average user. Not all sensors work great on all configs. Also, sometimes not all modes work good. HDR+ enhanced may improve details (especially for macro and ultrawide), but it takes longer time and introduces some artifacts in some instances.
On the other end, MIUI camera takes instantaneous shots that look good on most occasions.
If you ask me, the average experience is the same in both cameras, one compensates for the other's shortcomings.
For anyone interested, wyroczen's 6.1 reborn has bufferfix even for non-rooted devices. And builds based on gcam 7.3 are mostly stable and capable of utilizing all sensors. Configs differ in number of stacked photos, color reproduction and detail/noise processing, and it's mostly a matter of taste, you can even make your own.
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I may disagree with you, slightly. While MIUI camera isn't really great, it isn't trash.
I've also gone through quite a few gcams and configs. It's a hassle for the average user. Not all sensors work great on all configs. Also, sometimes not all modes work good. HDR+ enhanced may improve details (especially for macro and ultrawide), but it takes longer time and introduces some artifacts in some instances.
On the other end, MIUI camera takes instantaneous shots that look good on most occasions.
If you ask me, the average experience is the same in both cameras, one compensates for the other's shortcomings.
For anyone interested, wyroczen's 6.1 reborn has bufferfix even for non-rooted devices. And builds based on gcam 7.3 are mostly stable and capable of utilizing all sensors. Configs differ in number of stacked photos, color reproduction and detail/noise processing, and it's mostly a matter of taste, you can even make your own.
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Don't get me wrong, the stock MIUI camera is ideal in terms of functionality, ease of use and quality, but if you're not running the stock ROM, the alternatives are decent. I have one app for video with EIS, one for night time shots and one for pics. Slightly inconvenient to switch around, but it's a small price to pay to run an unmolested AOSP A10 GSI ROM.
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Don't get me wrong, the stock MIUI camera is ideal in terms of functionality, ease of use and quality, but if you're not running the stock ROM, the alternatives are decent. I have one app for video with EIS, one for night time shots and one for pics. Slightly inconvenient to switch around, but it's a small price to pay to run an unmolested AOSP A10 GSI ROM.
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That's exactly my point, glad we're on the same page
In order to compensate for stock camera performance, you'll go through a lot of trouble, which is why a good stock camera port should also be an option.
As for me, when i used AOSP, I'd add a lot of mods through xposed and magisk. MIUI already has them so I guess this time I will pass.
As a number of people have commented here-- be aware that the MIUI 12 stock cam produces DRAMATICALLY better photos that MIUI 11 did, particularly in indoor/low light situations. The results rival Gcam, without the fuss. And MIUI 12 itself is very good.
I've thought of moving to LOS since for a while now but i have found no things regarding the camera performance on the RAW imaging side.
Love the camera performance on stock with the 12 bit raw functionality but with recent privacy concerns i want to move to LOS, so i wonder if there is a way to keep the camera sensors full potential with something that supports 12 Bit raw capture like GCam or open camera? or is this something that is yet to be implemented in any app, as i have not seen any OOS cam ports as of yet.
TLDR: are 12 Bit raw images achievable on AOSP roms or is this something that would be lost in the transition.
Tbh you should look better
Most ROMs now have OOS cam build in, it's most of the times also in the title on this thread.
Lineage OS doesn't have it by default but crDroid/Nameless etc have it build in and are built on Lineage so I guess that's what you are looking for