Question Getting to know my Biloba - fixing it - nonGoogle - Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 (2021)

Dear tech friends
I happen to own a Biloba Redmi Note 8, and I understand now that it isn't the best phone for DIY. But I want to make the best of it as selling it will mean loss of money and overall I am very pleased with the thing. Or maybe 'was'? I hope I did not kill it.
The situation:
- it is stuck in a kind of startup loop that restarts endlesly. I need to put the phone in fastboot to give it some rest. I believe I managed to shut it down yesterday, but I do not remember how.
- this happened after I installed a (wrong?) recovery rom into the boot sector - this was before I realized how particular this Biloba version is.
- I want to fix it and put a google-less rom, perferably open source/GSI but if not possible official China Rom could be an alternative as it doesnt have Google.
My question to you is foremost: where can I obtain the knowledge to fix this myself? Ebooks, tutorials, Xiaomi service manuals? Mind you: it is BILOBA.
Also I havent found any decent MiFlash program. They all seem buggy as hell. Doesn't Xiaomi offer official tools for this?
Why is smartphone administration seemingly shrouded in mystery? Companies do not want us to amdinister our phones ourselves? PC technicalities are so much more accesible it seems?
Thanks people!
pyrkaios

same here

I guess the best places are the threads on xda on devices that have more active modders.
I usually use 'Google', and mostly keep in mind a way to return to previous conditions.
Keeping a copy of original firmware ready helps there.
Also, I tend to flash with fastboot whenever possible.
Only reason not to is when I must flash when in BROM.

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[Texas Instruments] Flash Tool 1.6.0.0 -Soft Brick- TF101 TF201 TF300 Unbricking Tool

Hello and greetings to all, this is my first XDA post so please be gentle with me...
I recently started pondering one of the problem's I see a lot of people surfing these Forums suffering from, the dreaded "Bricked Device"
For whatever reason generally through no fault of your own, you may end up with a bad flash that results in your device becoming a worthless but very expensive paperweight. :crying:
Some examples of people suffering a bricked device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229416
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275035
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1926098
After doing a lot of research myself from suffering something similar I started to notice the general theme is always the same, people saying "wait for the device manufacturer to release the NVFlash!"
However in these instances shown above the RETAILER in question is ASUS and they are never going to release any kind of source, to any kind of NVFlash.. Because if they did, you have to reflect that would put them out of buisness, it's far more lucrative for the RETAILER (not the manufacturer) to just sit back and wait till you've got a problem with a shody update and then push selling you a new motherboard for your device. A new motherboard that in all likelyhood you dont even need and if you send in the device for repair that you would probably never even see being placed into the device in the first place when all they have to do is fix your broken bootloader.
Because the reality is, the Manufacturer being "TEXA'S INSTRUMENTS" have already made the full source of the NAND Flash to these devices readily available to the RETAILER and there partners in buisness.
It may surprise you and a lot of other people to learn that in fact you can already download The Official TEXAS INSTRUMENTS FLASH TOOL Ver: 1.6.0.0 from the following link: http://www.ti.com/tool/flashtool
Complete with the entire walkthrough guide available here: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Flash_v1.6_User_Guide
I know there are a lot of people out there on this forum that have been looking for this tool so I decided I would make my first post a link to the Bootloader Reflashing Tool for the majority of all ARM or OMAP based devices.
Please dont ask me how it work's, I'm happy to sit back and let those out there with more experiance in these matters take the plunge for themselves if it means in the long run we can all finally put Linux onto the Android Touch device with relative ease and recover from stupidness such as a Bricked device because of a crappy bootloader update where the RETAILER decides in there infinate wisdom to remove USB device support from the Jelly Bean Bootloader...
On the plus side, this means that in the near future when the right people get there hands on this tool (from the Manufacturer) we can all expect to see some far more funky flashing startup screens and some rad custom bootloaders :victory:
Thank you for taking the time to read my first post...
P.S: I also nearly forgot to mention this is the tool that LOCKS and UNLOCKS the Bootloader, so once people start making Bootflashes for there device to use with this tool then you wont see "Your Device is Unlocked" in your face everytime you turn on the device! (I wonder if that means we can recover our warranty, I can almost hear ASUS sqweak in protest!)
REALY Nobody knows to work with this tool ???
REALY????
I dont belive this....
I have TF300TG briked... I I want to TRY any solution...!!!!
BR
Mihnea

Urgent!!!!!!!! Help me!!!!!!, Earasing phone software, urgent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

urgent!!!!!
I have xiaomi mi mix 2s and I made the worst mistake of all times (for me)
I needed to buy a phone and I didn't wanted xiaomi at all!!, But my mother told me "take it it's great my has it and she's loving it" and my father "its the only device you can afford, I don't allow you to spend more then that" so i bought the phone hoping that the phone doesn't comes with clear Android p system (there's nowhere on the internet that says if it comes with Android or MIUI)
I got the phone and it came with miui, I thought I can handle it, but couldn't, I though I could do something to change it somehow, I couldn't,
But it's is driving me nuts!!!!!!!
I hate xiaomi ( maybe even more then apple and to hate a company even more than apple it's impossible (until now)
Don't get me wrong, the hardware is pretty good but the software is awful
After a long introduction here's my question,
How can I earase, delete, conceal, the miui software and any memory, trace of xioami on the phone
Delete eve-ry-thing!!!!!!!!! And install fresh pure Android p system
Is it possible?
Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , (I'm serious, it's really important to me!!!)
Ttigerbbb said:
urgent!!!!!
I have xiaomi mi mix 2s and I made the worst mistake of all times (for me)
I needed to buy a phone and I didn't wanted xiaomi at all!!, But my mother told me "take it it's great my has it and she's loving it" and my father "its the only device you can afford, I don't allow you to spend more then that" so i bought the phone hoping that the phone doesn't comes with clear Android p system (there's nowhere on the internet that says if it comes with Android or MIUI)
I got the phone and it came with miui, I thought I can handle it, but couldn't, I though I could do something to change it somehow, I couldn't,
But it's is driving me nuts!!!!!!!
I hate xiaomi ( maybe even more then apple and to hate a company even more than apple it's impossible (until now)
Don't get me wrong, the hardware is pretty good but the software is awful
After a long introduction here's my question,
How can I earase, delete, conceal, the miui software and any memory, trace of xioami on the phone
Delete eve-ry-thing!!!!!!!!! And install fresh pure Android p system
Is it possible?
Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , I may kill my self if its going to be like that (I'm serious, it's that important to me!!!)
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Seriously, your post is ridiculous, no one is going to spoon feed you with step by steps. Especially, when they have been posted already a million times over. Did you even make an effort? There are 9 Pies roms available!
Everything you need is here, go back and read the agreement that you agreed to when you joined XDA. Then locate the search box, then use it to find your answers for unlocking the bootloader, flash Twrp, your Rom of Choice, Gapps, and Magisk root.
Next, Miui is actually, awesome once fully setup. You can disable the things that you don't like. The first time I tried Miui I absolutely hated it too. However, once I learned how to use Miui, it is one of my favorites.
Go try something else, but come back later and give Miui a try, many people ended up loving it. Finally, as a parent with teenagers. I fully agree with your parents, you should thank them. This phone is one of the best phones that comes wit Miui but will also give you whatever you want with it comes to the SDK : Pie, Oreo, Nougat each version of OS with plenty of Roms to choose from.
Ttigerbbb said:
How can I earase, delete, conceal, the miui software and any memory, trace of xioami on the phone
Delete eve-ry-thing!!!!!!!!! And install fresh pure Android p system
Is it possible?
Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , I may kill my self if its going to be like that (I'm serious, it's that important to me!!!)
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-2/how-to/one-xiaomi-mi-mix-2-chiron-unlock-t3785004
Ttigerbbb said:
urgent!!!!!
I have xiaomi mi mix 2s and I made the worst mistake of all times (for me)
I needed to buy a phone and I didn't wanted xiaomi at all!!, But my mother told me "take it it's great my has it and she's loving it" and my father "its the only device you can afford, I don't allow you to spend more then that" so i bought the phone hoping that the phone doesn't comes with clear Android p system (there's nowhere on the internet that says if it comes with Android or MIUI)
I got the phone and it came with miui, I thought I can handle it, but couldn't, I though I could do something to change it somehow, I couldn't,
But it's is driving me nuts!!!!!!!
I hate xiaomi ( maybe even more then apple and to hate a company even more than apple it's impossible (until now)
Don't get me wrong, the hardware is pretty good but the software is awful
After a long introduction here's my question,
How can I earase, delete, conceal, the miui software and any memory, trace of xioami on the phone
Delete eve-ry-thing!!!!!!!!! And install fresh pure Android p system
Is it possible?
Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , I may kill my self if its going to be like that (I'm serious, it's that important to me!!!)
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Lol ? ty for that moment m8
Thank you
tsongming said:
Seriously, your post is ridiculous, no one is going to spoon feed you with step by steps. Especially, when they have been posted already a million times over. Did you even make an effort? There are 9 Pies roms available!
Everything you need is here, go back and read the agreement that you agreed to when you joined XDA. Then locate the search box, then use it to find your answers for unlocking the bootloader, flash Twrp, your Rom of Choice, Gapps, and Magisk root.
Next, Miui is actually, awesome once fully setup. You can disable the things that you don't like. The first time I tried Miui I absolutely hated it too. However, once I learned how to use Miui, it is one of my favorites.
Go try something else, but come back later and give Miui a try, many people ended up loving it. Finally, as a parent with teenagers. I fully agree with your parents, you should thank them. This phone is one of the best phones that comes wit Miui but will also give you whatever you want with it comes to the SDK : Pie, Oreo, Nougat each version of OS with plenty of Roms to choose from.
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Thanks, but I tried the miui on the phone for 2 months now, and sometimes it's fine but a lot of the times it's really not. I tried to unlock, rom, twrp.... , But my mother said that I can't do it cause I might ruin it so I need to give it to a pro, my cousin is a pro in this kind of thing, but to give it to him I need to see him and that is a whole new thing
Another question, me roming, twrp-ing.......? Is it erasing the miui? Or just installing a new software on the "old" software?
Ttigerbbb said:
Thanks, but I tried the miui on the phone for 2 months now, and sometimes it's fine but a lot of the times it's really not. I tried to unlock, rom, twrp.... , But my mother said that I can't do it cause I might ruin it so I need to give it to a pro, my cousin is a pro in this kind of thing, but to give it to him I need to see him and that is a whole new thing
Another question, me roming, twrp-ing.......? Is it erasing the miui? Or just installing a new software on the "old" software?
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Your base partitions remain. But yes, Miui will definitely be erased. However, it can be restored. It's very important that you or your cousin does the research before starting otherwise you can brick your phone.
Be careful to make sure that you properly unlock the bootloader. I would strongly suggest using Miflash or the all in one tool. Especially if you are new to this type of thing.
I just bought this phone and will have it in my hands by Monday. If you look at my history you will find that I write a lot of tutorials with step by step instructions.
Be patient and wait a week, This week I will join the Mi8 community and start making contrubutions. Likely by writing a very extensive step by step how to guide...if it's needed, or if I can improve upon what currently exists.
It is important that you establish a Mi account (if you do not have one already).
The first step will be unlocking the bootloader, then flashing the most recent version of TWRP. Then you will create a Nandroid recovery. This way you can restore your current instaltion if/when wanted .
Next you will wipe system, and user data, as well as the caches. At this point you can then flash your rom, gapps, and magisk root.
You can assure your mother that if setup correctly the phone will be secure, and you can keep the installation updated as new rom releases become available, these updates will typically include the up to date monthly security certificate,
Once you have everything installed you can then resync your user data through your Google account setup. Go ahead and ensure that everything is syncing to Google as well as the mi cloud.
Look for my future threads, Good luck, be careful.
Edit, after briefly reviewing some of the current tutorials. I will definitely dramatically improve upon existing instructions with threads that are specific to the Mi 8. and Mi Mix 2 and 3
So people will not have to rely on threads with out of date instruction. In example, there is no need to disable driver signing on your desktop.
See you soon
Ttigerbbb said:
Thanks, but I tried the miui on the phone for 2 months now, and sometimes it's fine but a lot of the times it's really not. I tried to unlock, rom, twrp.... , But my mother said that I can't do it cause I might ruin it so I need to give it to a pro, my cousin is a pro in this kind of thing, but to give it to him I need to see him and that is a whole new thing
Another question, me roming, twrp-ing.......? Is it erasing the miui? Or just installing a new software on the "old" software?
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ROM'ing is essentially removing MIUI software from your phone and installing a different ROM.
And to do it, all the info is in the link I gave you earlier. Have a read. Even the newbies will do fine if they read that guide. Or if your cousin is going to do it, still he/she has to read all that stuff and be 100% sure about it.
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tsongming said:
I just bought this phone and will have it in my hands by Monday. If you look at my history you will find that I write a lot of tutorials with step by step instructions.
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I love your patience over at Le Pro 3 forums man, I'm the guy who ended up in an irreversible brick of Le Pro 3 and moved on. I'd love to have you here, welcome to Mix 2 Train!
By the looks of the OP, I think the person is in his/her teen years and new this whole custom rom scene. We gotta dumb our talks down to his/her level.

Development and Custom ROMs

Why we still don't have Custom ROMs and kernels for this device after almost six months of his realise?
Is it problem in MTK or..?
MTK hard bricks the device way too much, and to unlock need some special Xiaomi account with some access that only few people has.
I have bricked my RN8 pro once and unbricked it without any special account ... I dont believe thats the reason for lack of custom software...
zOOk1981 said:
I have bricked my RN8 pro once and unbricked it without any special account ... I dont believe thats the reason for lack of custom software...
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Because you didn't hard bricked your phone, you should read Xiaomi EU statements concerning this phone, way too many people have hard bricked their devices for no apparent reason and only way to unbrick is with authorized account.
alejandromujica.rsm said:
Because you didn't hard bricked your phone, you should read Xiaomi EU statements concerning this phone, way too many people have hard bricked their devices for no apparent reason and only way to unbrick is with authorized account.
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I believe it's only an issue if you mess up the boot partition image. I've flashed 5 GSI ROMs and then back to stock with no issues. I just avoided touching the boot partition (aside from using magisk). My model is the EU one, but I'm curious if any of the bricked users flashed their boot partition before bricking?
wang1chung said:
I believe it's only an issue if you mess up the boot partition image. I've flashed 5 GSI ROMs and then back to stock with no issues. I just avoided touching the boot partition (aside from using magisk). My model is the EU one, but I'm curious if any of the bricked users flashed their boot partition before bricking?
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I to believe the same thing. I have flashed from GSI back to stock, and vise versa atleast 3 times. I don't get what the issue is either
wang1chung said:
I believe it's only an issue if you mess up the boot partition image. I've flashed 5 GSI ROMs and then back to stock with no issues. I just avoided touching the boot partition (aside from using magisk). My model is the EU one, but I'm curious if any of the bricked users flashed their boot partition before bricking?
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bpawnz said:
I to believe the same thing. I have flashed from GSI back to stock, and vise versa atleast 3 times. I don't get what the issue is either
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Also keep in mind you obviously know what you are doing. I'd say we cannot be hold responsible for people not following precise guides posted by those who knows better, but, between people starting to flash stuff before waiting for their bootloader to be unlocked (yeah waiting 7 days can be frustrating... it is...), those not flashing the right thing at the right place, those forgetting a step or more (or thinking they can shortcut a whole process), there also is something we have to consider.
It seems from the many post I have read in many places, most of the phones which ended bricked were the Chinese model (and when I say bricked I mean bricked. Of half of the people who claim their phone is bricked I am pretty sure they are not even if they think it is).
You probably know like me, people with no skills at all in that particular area or with computer sciences at all, talking to you about, i am going to flash this, remove that, root and put this in system... and they dont know what a bootloader is when you ask them if they unlocked it...
And if anything goes wrong they completely panic (my phone is bricked help me help me!), overreact without any cool, often making things even worse trying to fix something they hasty diagnosed wrongly, ending up in really bricking their phone if it was not already.
As we all know here, people in China are not allowed to do some stuff or using some other stuff (apps etc), they do not live in a democracy out there (do we?), and it would not surprise me State has phones to be made a certain way for local market so people cannot just simply go and flash what they want to do what they want with their phones.
Obviously there kind of always is a way around, but, maybe not as easy and Plug n Play solution.
Some made the choice to order their phones from AliExpress or any Chinese website like they are used to do with their other toys making quite same savings doing so (aren't all of our toys made in China after all?), and end up with more difficult device to work around.
It seems that Eu/Gobal flavors of the phones are somehow more permissive (or people having them know how to read/follow tutorials better, or just more used to flashing with decades of trainings idk). For this Eu/Global market they have to follow some rules and regulations if they want to be approved for that said market (for all I know maybe they also had to put some specific backdoors so our own state services can snoop in?) example the call recording option considered as a privacy issue for people being recorded in EU/USA.
Now about touching the boot partition, from what I have read, it would be more when messing with recovery most phones ended bricked when people try to flash it/make it stick in recovery on some phones flavors (Chinese imo).
If the flavor that was shipped to dev was a Chinese one, no wonder why they got so many problems.
I am not even sure the Global/Eu one was ready to ship at that time.
Anyway just speculating here, because me too I am wondering what's the problem with this phone.
And not really being 'root' of the device you purchase with your own money straight out of the box also is a concept I am having hard time to live with. I cannot understand why we customers tolerate buying a phone for which we do not have an easy recovery option (rescue DVD or whatever, plug in, restore, done) if case anything goes wrong, or just if we want to restart fresh.
It used to be like this before with all phones and computers.
Nowadays it is not anymore most of the time.
Regards.
how bootloader relock in redmi note 8 Pro. i alredy relock bootloader in many redmi devices with this command 'fastboot oem lock " is this will work on redmi note 8 pro.
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ivo_cajkovac said:
@saucyPotatoNews
Search on telegram for more info
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this is hoax...this Potato Open Source Program is still develop for Redmi Note 8/8T
check this link
https://miui.blog/redmi-note-8/posp-redmi-note-8-ginkgo
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-8/development/rom-potato-sauce-project-t4005789
https://github.com/PotatoProject
This ROM is for Qualcomm Snapdragon chip
Redhexa said:
this is hoax...this Potato Open Source Program is still develop for Redmi Note 8/8T
check this link
https://miui.blog/redmi-note-8/posp-redmi-note-8-ginkgo
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-8/development/rom-potato-sauce-project-t4005789
https://github.com/PotatoProject
This ROM is for Qualcomm Snapdragon chip
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It is not. I recommend you joining the official telegram group to get all the updates first hand.
Apparently the person posting this is the lead dev of POSP, so I think it is quite a legit claim.
That he is working on begonia is also visible on his github:
https://github.com/AgentFabulous?tab=repositories
Talked to the developer personally ... Stable version should be released in week or two...
Redhexa said:
this is hoax...this Potato Open Source Program is still develop for Redmi Note 8/8T
check this link
https://miui.blog/redmi-note-8/posp-redmi-note-8-ginkgo
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-8/development/rom-potato-sauce-project-t4005789
https://github.com/PotatoProject
This ROM is for Qualcomm Snapdragon chip
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Not a hoax.
EDIT: Add some screenshots
Agent_fabulous said:
Not a hoax.
EDIT: Add some screenshots
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If so - is there any who has made update in pixel experience? Must be alike on both rom
I'm grateful for the one first custom ROM that we have been waiting for half year ...

Has anyone successfully rooted the device?

Hi!.
Is bootloader unlocking and rooting a thing on this device?
I'm really curious if anyone has done it and how difficult it was
tbh you can unlock nubia device easy but the problem is no twrp and rom dev are into it..unless you search chinese forum for that..this nubia phone never ever in my life i buy ...and worst scenario no software updates only security patch thats it..i have red magic 3s global version and software is so crap and bugs..i have to flash cn rom
walkwitmeinhel said:
tbh you can unlock nubia device easy but the problem is no twrp and rom dev are into it..unless you search chinese forum for that..this nubia phone never ever in my life i buy ...and worst scenario no software updates only security patch thats it..i have red magic 3s global version and software is so crap and bugs..i have to flash cn rom
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Well that's unfortunate because the 5S looks seriously polished since then. They've come a ways and this is the first time I've legitimately been considering Red Magic. It would be a shame if this phone didn't see any development.
Causical said:
Well that's unfortunate because the 5S looks seriously polished since then. They've come a ways and this is the first time I've legitimately been considering Red Magic. It would be a shame if this phone didn't see any development.
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the RM5G (nx659j) and the 5S (nx659j) both have the same hardware ID
the S comes with faster internal memory speed, ram, and an extra layer of Silver on the cooler.
otherwise basically the same device.
the 5G forums already have an excellent modded Kernel, and Have AOSP and LOS developers working on roms. once the 5S has a working TWRP it shouldn't be hard to use the 5G roms already in development.
also from personal experience, the 5S stock rom is quite solid. I've had my 5S for a few days now and tested a fair bit, so far so good. I've not experienced any of the bugs being mentioned on the 5G page. alot of the bugs that have been reported by the 5G users have been fixed on the 5S
If Nubia release all their sources for the phone, both kernel and drivers, it will be easy to port many roms to this device. with a few devs already on board doing work with the 5G I see the 5S doing well.
Patrick Morgan said:
the RM5G (nx659j) and the 5S (nx659j) both have the same hardware ID
the S comes with faster internal memory speed, ram, and an extra layer of Silver on the cooler.
otherwise basically the same device.
the 5G forums already have an excellent modded Kernel, and Have AOSP and LOS developers working on roms. once the 5S has a working TWRP it shouldn't be hard to use the 5G roms already in development.
also from personal experience, the 5S stock rom is quite solid. I've had my 5S for a few days now and tested a fair bit, so far so good. I've not experienced any of the bugs being mentioned on the 5G page. alot of the bugs that have been reported by the 5G users have been fixed on the 5S
If Nubia release all their sources for the phone, both kernel and drivers, it will be easy to port many roms to this device. with a few devs already on board doing work with the 5G I see the 5S doing well.
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Has Nubia ever released both kernel and driver sources on previous phones before?
Edit: Guess I answered my own question, the z17 had a crap ton of development.
Thanks for all the insights guys!
I'll wait and see how it plays out first, I jumped the gun before and went with huawei thinking project treble and all would mean much easier and faster development but you can see how that played out....
It's 700$ too much to buy a device that's potentially without source code or development - or even worse another huawei x.x
Causical said:
Has Nubia ever released both kernel and driver sources on previous phones before?
Edit: Guess I answered my own question, the z17 had a crap ton of development.
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Rstment ^m^ said:
Thanks for all the insights guys!
I'll wait and see how it plays out first, I jumped the gun before and went with huawei thinking project treble and all would mean much easier and faster development but you can see how that played out....
It's 700$ too much to buy a device that's potentially without source code or development - or even worse another huawei x.x
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From what I understand, Mattofthedead, the developer for the 5G OC kernel helped with a crowd fund to get a lineage developer to help with getting lineage on the phone. they're soon to release the first version.
Once a working lineage rom is made and released it will be the base for literally every AOSP rom. meaning this phone is going to get alot of support.
Patrick Morgan said:
From what I understand, Mattofthedead, the developer for the 5G OC kernel helped with a crowd fund to get a lineage developer to help with getting lineage on the phone. they're soon to release the first version.
Once a working lineage rom is made and released it will be the base for literally every AOSP rom. meaning this phone is going to get alot of support.
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Honestly that would be great, I've been watching phones for a long time and truthfully if the OP 8T doesn't beat this phone out in a fair amount of ways then this phone is surely one of the absolute best ones you can get in the year of the SD 865... Definitely worth consideration for an upgrade. However you're also having to look at the fact that A LOT of upper tier specs and performance features are now leaking down to a ton of mid rangers, for example high refresh rate, large battery capacity, bezeless displays, better camera implementations, 5G accessibility... So to me that just signifies that maybe it might also be worth waiting for the SD 875 series??? I mean technology usually only gets more expensive right, but seems to me they're going to have less and less to offer as exclusively flagship and people just aren't going to dish out $1,000 every time they want a phone upgrade.
Causical said:
Honestly that would be great, I've been watching phones for a long time and truthfully if the OP 8T doesn't beat this phone out in a fair amount of ways then this phone is surely one of the absolute best ones you can get in the year of the SD 865... Definitely worth consideration for an upgrade. However you're also having to look at the fact that A LOT of upper tier specs and performance features are now leaking down to a ton of mid rangers, for example high refresh rate, large battery capacity, bezeless displays, better camera implementations, 5G accessibility... So to me that just signifies that maybe it might also be worth waiting for the SD 875 series??? I mean technology usually only gets more expensive right, but seems to me they're going to have less and less to offer as exclusively flagship and people just aren't going to dish out $1,000 every time they want a phone upgrade.
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Waiting is totally up to you. I got one because my last phone was 6 years old.
a speed test done comparing stock OP8 and the RM5G with Matts Kernel, the RM5G smoked the OP8. antutu and other benchmarks.,
considering the 5S is a slight update to that hardware with better internals only means we'll get a slightly better speed than his 5G.
I picked this up mainly because it was the price of upper midrange phones now, but with specs of top tier flagships. (its basically a s20 ultra 5g without the camera) for less than half the price.
the 5S ROM version really did a great job fixing the errors reported by the 5G community, face unlock, UI bugs, Finger print senor all working quite well on the 5S. the gaming aspect of the phone too is really good, with modable trigger buttons, there is a option in the game mode of the phone to map the shoulder buttons to anything on the screen. so you dont have to tap over something that may block your view. to you can tap something that is hard to reach depending on the option (or for example move while aiming and shooting at the same time in FPS). its a fantastic feature.
I'm really happy with this phone and the next update (form looking at the speed increase of the current CN rom) its going to be a monster of a phone.
I used the old method and worked
do you mind sharing which method you used to root your 5S? I've seen a couple 5S users here as well who was able to root their 5S and I'm really interested to root my 5S too
I'm on global rom v. 8.07, I would really appreciate if you can give me some direction or at least point me to the right direction
yhe2x said:
do you mind sharing which method you used to root your 5S? I've seen a couple 5S users here as well who was able to root their 5S and I'm really interested to root my 5S too
I'm on global rom v. 8.07, I would really appreciate if you can give me some direction or at least point me to the right direction
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i could tell you what i did to root my device, most likely differs from everyone else's ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the only thing i can surely tell you never ever fully unlock bootloader or you will have a nightmare with the fingerprint scanner calibration... like i am having
this is the code you should avoid to prevent the break of your fingerprint scanner fastboot flashing unlock
disclaimer - I'm NOT responsible for anything that happens to your device, proceed with caution
PRE-REQUISITES
backup all your data, the steps below will erase your data
Link #1 - Applications, .img files (https://mega.nz/file/igphSCTD#OybJo9...dhk3JFB4_5xkVc)
source: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nu...beginner-tutorial-unlock-bootloader-t4131585/
Link #2 - Unbrick Tool for Nubia Red Magic 5S (https://mega.nz/file/rEc2kIDC#FExxIiuqTcMPpn0Ji_pAtVqH4CBiSWvJPUkDYjR-4cc)
source: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nu.../unbrick-tool-nubia-red-magic-5smade-t4166861
ENSURE THAT:
- You installed the application and driver (Minimal ADB and Fastboot, USB drivers and Qualcomm)
- Minimal ADB and Fastboot can be found on link #1
- USB drivers and Qualcomm can be found on MiFlash2020-3-14-0\Source\ThirdParty\ folder location Link #2 after is extracted
- You updated your OS in the latest version.
- You UNLOCK the developer option (setting>>about phone>>tap 7x the build number) and you switch ON the OEM unlocking & USB Debugging.
- You approved the RSA request in your red Magic 5s
Red magic 5s how to unlock bootloader
Connect the phone to computer, open cmd and go to where you have Minimal ADB and Fastboot then do the following steps
Code:
adb devices #make sure you see a device ex: 0123456789ABCDEF device
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot devices #make sure you see a device ex: 2e45f69f fastboot
a- if you do not see a device you will need to go into device manager and install the usb drivers
fastboot oem nubia_unlock NUBIA_NX659J
PREP YOUR FILES:
once you downloads and extract Link #2 you will have 2 folders (images and MiFlash2020-3-14-0) make a folder called images1 and all the files that are found on images copy them to images1
by the end of these step you will have 3 folders (images, images1, MiFlash2020-3-14-0), images and images1 are exact copies of each other
from what you extract from Link #1
- you will find Magisk-v20.4.zip copy and paste it inside your adb folder
- you will find recovery-TWRP-3.4.1B-0324-NUBIA_REDMAGIC_5G-CN-wzsx150.img and vbmeta_BL_skip.img, copy and paste them to the location where you have (image, image1 and MiFlash2020-3-14-0)
rename recovery-TWRP-3.4.1B-0324-NUBIA_REDMAGIC_5G-CN-wzsx150.img to recovery.img
rename vbmeta_BL_skip.img to vbmeta.img
move the recently renamed recovery.img and vbmeta.img into images1 and replace the files.
HOW TO GET TWRP AND ROOT:
open the folder MiFlash2020-3-14-0 and then the application called XiaoMiFlash.exe in admin #ignore message "couldn't find flash script"
where it says select this is where you going to look for the image1 folder which contains the modded TWRP files #ignore message "couldn't find flash script " again
on you mobile device you should be on the bootloader, select the option Boot to edload #the screen will be black on the phone
back to the computer on the application XiaoMiFlash.exe, click refresh and you will see you device connected #if you don't see it make sure you have installed the Qualcomm drivers
click on flash and allow the system to process until you see a flash done!sucess! #the beauty of these step is that you also learn how to unbrick your device, you just will need to select image folder instead of image1
disconnect the mobile from the computer and on the mobile press the power button and hold it until you see a green notification light come up then let go the power button.
once the mobile boots up You UNLOCK the developer option (setting>>about phone>>tap 7x the build number) and you switch ON the OEM unlocking & USB Debugging.
open your cmd window and type:
Code:
adb devices
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot devices
fastboot oem nubia_unlock NUBIA_NX659J
select option to reboot into recovery mode
since it is the first time you are running TWRP
It will reboot in TWRP twice, in the 2nd reboot it will stay in TWRP, change the language to English and select the keep read only.
Go to Wipe -> Format Data - type yes and click the check -> once that is done, click the back button until you are back into the main page
go into Advance -> ADB Sideload -> check Wipe Dalvik Cache and Wipe Cache -> then type
adb sideload Magisk-v20.4.zip #watch the magic happen, once done reboot System
you are done
A big thank you to you sir, with all these steps I would really need to spend some time and carefully follow each step so I would end up with a shiny new brick lol.
I have another question and forgive me for being such a noob, do you need to unlock the bootloader first before you can obtain root? and will I be able to use apps like Kingroot after I unlock the bootloader?
Once again, your help is greatly appreciated.
yhe2x said:
A big thank you to you sir, with all these steps I would really need to spend some time and carefully follow each step so I would end up with a shiny new brick lol. .
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yeah, i jump to it after reading and reading and i still ended up with my device 4-5 hrs down as some stuff i followed didnt worked and i didnt know how to use XiaoMiFlash.exe
yhe2x said:
I have another question and forgive me for being such a noob, do you need to unlock the bootloader first before you can obtain root? and will I be able to use apps like Kingroot after I unlock the bootloader?.
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ never used kingroot, you could try it out - the above gives you the steps to revert back as well to factory settings by using the image folder
the above will leave you with permanent TWRP, which leads to this issue - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82272969&postcount=6 - from my perspective is a minimal thing
TopoX84 said:
i could tell you what i did to root my device, most likely differs from everyone else's ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the only thing i can surely tell you never ever fully unlock bootloader or you will have a nightmare with the fingerprint scanner calibration... like i am having
this is the code you should avoid to prevent the break of your fingerprint scanner fastboot flashing unlock
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this is all very complicated and unnecessary for the 5S
Making sure you have the correct drivers installed for fastboot. and the steps are quite direct. you do need to wipe everything so backing up your internal data is reccommended. these steps do not unlock your bootloader.
I posted a short tutorial here with a zip with all needed files.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nubia-red-magic-5s/how-to/official-5s-roms-t4164861
Patrick Morgan said:
this is all very complicated and unnecessary for the 5S
Making sure you have the correct drivers installed for fastboot. and the steps are quite direct. you do need to wipe everything so backing up your internal data is reccommended. these steps do not unlock your bootloader.
I posted a short tutorial here with a zip with all needed files.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nubia-red-magic-5s/how-to/official-5s-roms-t4164861
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hehe thats why i said it worked for me and might differ from people out there.
thanks for the link above
Rstment ^m^ said:
Hi!.
Is bootloader unlocking and rooting a thing on this device?
I'm really curious if anyone has done it and how difficult it was
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It's really hard in this device by the way we will get any custom rom in future ??
Hahahaha fk me . I'm posting in the wrong thread.

Sony bootloader exploits and/or bypass

Hi
I'm new to the forum but have been doing a fair amount of research. I am stuck now though and would like a bit of help.
My situation is that I have a Xperia XA1 ultra (I know I should post in that device specific forum but not much seems to be happening there) I have a very specific problem that I have treated like a forensics problem.
The phone is locked by a pattern which has been guessed by another person so many times that the gatekeeper only allows one entry per day provided the phone is charged otherwise the timer resets.
It has not been rooted and ADB is disabled.
I have connected to it through fastboot and what I can gather is that it is running Android Oreo.
The system details are as follows:
Product: XA1 Ultra G3221
Build Number: 48.1.A.0.129
Chipset: Mediatek MT6757 Helio P20
Bootloader: Locked
My research has led me to the possibility of loading a recovery image into the RAM of the phone and accessing ADB that way. I tried this with a TWRP image but obviously it didn't work. There is a company called Cellebrite that claims to be able to load it's own boot/recovery image into the bootloader and gain entry that way, however the license is something like £10,000. I'm definitely not a commercial customer.
The final option for me would be to dump the memory via JTAG or chipoff, the contents would be encrypted but I found a blog where somebody had managed to find the location of the gesture.key file while the system was encrypted. I can't remember what the site was called though, it took me ages to find last time.
My main questions are does Sony sign the boot image with it's own keys or does it use the standard Android Verified Boot?
Does Sony reuse the same keys for signing across devices? Likely not but maybe
Is there a way to send specific instructions to the RAM via fastboot?
Does anybody know of an exploit that could be used?
Is there a way to extract the boot.img and recover the Sony keys?
If there any other docs, resources or ways to get the data that could help, I will gladly read and/or try them. I think this forum is probably the biggest resource one though but after a while the specific information needed gets harder to find.
The main thing is that I don't unlock the bootloader and flash anything. It's all got to be live and non data damaging.
I tried MTPwn on the off chance that it would work but nope, it was a no go.
If there was a way to utilise the mediatek exploit to gain entry from fastboot that would be excellent, or to use fastboot to dump the memory.
Thanks for reading, I hope someone can help.
Your thread was quite confusing at first as I wasn't sure what to look for exactly :/
That being said, you have your phone locked and you want to unlock it. However you don't want to flash or reset your device, you don't have root permission, you don't have debugger mode on and you don't want to unlock the bootloader, correct?
Basically you're asking for the impossible...
All I can think of is FROST attack. See article for details and source code.
You can also send your device to your nearest Sony service center and they can probably fix it with no memory loss.
Other than that, you MUST hard reset your phone if you want it back.
However should you come to your mind and realize the reality of the situation where you shouldn't be picky about it then you can start with flashing custom recovery. Or using third-party programs like dr.fone.
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Your thread was quite confusing at first as I wasn't sure what to look for exactly :/
That being said, you have your phone locked and you want to unlock it. However you don't want to flash or reset your device, you don't have root permission, you don't have debugger mode on and you don't want to unlock the bootloader, correct?
Basically you're asking for the impossible...
All I can think of is FROST attack. See article for details and source code.
You can also send your device to your nearest Sony service center and they can probably fix it with no memory loss.
Other than that, you MUST hard reset your phone if you want it back.
However should you come to your mind and realize the reality of the situation where you shouldn't be picky about it then you can start with flashing custom recovery. Or using third-party programs like dr.fone.
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Thanks for getting back to me, yes I realise it is asking for the impossible. I'll have a research around that article and see if I can find some information on how to write the program to dump the contents over USB. I tried Dr Fone but that only gave me the option of a hard reset.
My current line of attack is an exploit over USB called OATmeal, whereby a Raspberry Pi is used over OTG with a filesystem label of "../../data", it allows the filesystem of the phone to be mounted and data written off. It is a little complex and so I am struggling a bit with getting it to work. The team over at Project Zero have a good write-up of it so I'm following that and the POC at exploit-db to guide me through it.
I think I will be able to get the USB part to work but I'm not sure if I have to write a Java file to automatically run when /data is mounted, or if that's even possible.
Forenzo said:
My current line of attack is an exploit over USB called OATmeal
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Not to make you frustrated, but this is an old exploit and I highly doubt it'd work on your device, unless your device security patch is older than 9-2018.
And you can't rollback on your security patch.
You should really consider flashing TWRP or other custom recovery. You have no other option.
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Not to make you frustrated, but this is an old exploit and I highly doubt it'd work on your device, unless your device security patch is older than 9-2018.
And you can't rollback on your security patch.
You should really consider flashing TWRP or other custom recovery. You have no other option.
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Fortunately the device hasn't been updated since around 2-2018 or 3-2018 so any exploit I can find from then onwards that I can use will be great. I really do get that the only realistic option is to unlock the bootloader and flash the recovery but the data needs to be recovered and I absolutely don't want to wipe it.
If I can't do it then it will gather dust until the end of time...
It seems that no matter what I say you won't realize the situation you are in.
I can only suggest to NEVER mess with the phone circuits or the motherboard. No matter which stupid yoututbe tutorial you saw. Those guys are douchebags who only know how to get views and don't care for whatever you/they do to your device.
Needless to say messing with the circuits or the motherboard require dexterity and experience which I'm positive you don't have.
As I said before if you send it to an authorized service center, then they can help you with it without memory loss.
Sending you device to a service center isn't an insult or an act of low self esteem. Service centers exist for a reason, and they're basically geeks who are too passionate about electronics and decided to make a living out of it.
Or maybe you can somehow use the EDL mode on the phone.
In Qualcomm devices the EDL mode is locked and can only be accessed by an authorized person who have the security code of your device. I don't know if it even exist in MTK devices.
Should you actually manage to boot into EDL mode - Assuming it exists and is unlocked - then BEWARE: EDL mode is very low level and any command can directly affect the kernel or compromise the system. Don't use commands you're not sure what do they do.
You can use EDL mode to recover the data from the phone then wipe it clean, then restore the data.
You cannot access memory with EDL mode, but you can access the current image on your device. And from which you can get the key file.
EDL mode is a very very powerful tool (Much more powerful than debugging, fastboot, or anything you may know of) as it doesn't need unlocked bootloader to use it and through which you can do anything to your device including flashing other ROMs.
Good luck on your impossible quest. Make sure to post updates should you find yourself stuck.

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