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Android Upgrade / Root?

Hello,
I've got a Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 that I bought during the few months when it was the top of the line small tablet from Samsung (before the S series came out). Since it seems clear that Samsung has abandoned it and it won't get an Android update, I want to see what it'll take to upgrade to at least Lollipop. I'm pretty tech savy, but I've never tried to do anything like this with Android and I'm not at all sure where to start.
I've started to read the thread on rooting, but I quickly got a bit lost as I don't understand the terminology.
My goal would be to simply get to stock Lollipop or Marshmallow and have a stable, functional tablet that I don't have to tweak or mess with much. I'd also like to be able to go back if it proves too buggy. Is that feasible, or is rooting plus upgrading pretty much something that will require constant maintenance and tweaking? If it is possible, can someone point me to a how to for complete newbies?

Rooting will not help you upgrade your tablet to Lollipop or Marshmallow as they aren't available for your device. You might want to google "what is rooting" and find out what it does before proceeding.
The only thing you could do to get L or MM is install a custom ROM such as this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...5-1-x-cyanogenmod-13-0-nightlies-tab-t3256093

CafeKampuchia said:
Rooting will not help you upgrade your tablet to Lollipop or Marshmallow as they aren't available for your device. You might want to google "what is rooting" and find out what it does before proceeding.
The only thing you could do to get L or MM is install a custom ROM such as this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...5-1-x-cyanogenmod-13-0-nightlies-tab-t3256093
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What makes you thin that his device is not have any Third Party ROMs (i.e CyanogenMod)? FYI this is the Tab Pro Fourm, and his Device should damned well be able to get to Lollipop or Marshmallow. e.g. CM12.1, or CM13.
As for rooting which you have to do at the start. Will most likely send him back to SamFirmware's where he'll need to likely first downgrade his Firmware to one that has a rootable exploit. i.e. a 'BOC1' ROM for the T325. (Which is the version I have). Through Odin (Samsung's Android Firmware Windows PC flashing Software). Then run something like the CFRoot App to get root.
NOTE: THIS WILL THROW YOUR KNOX FLAG!
This means that you'll never be able to use Knox services on that Device ever again. It will also throw the Warranty Flag as well Alerting Samsung that the Firmware was tampered with. For the moment (As I gather there is no known way to reset either of these Flags.) Not that this should stop you from installing either CM12.1 Lollipop (Seems to have lost support to) CM13 Marshmallow which is currently on a nightly release.
So the better question to ask is which T32x does Op even have? The T320 (Wi-Fi) The most common, and cheapest version has the greatest support. Where as the T325 (LTE), and T321 (3G) versions seem to be leaving behind. though even these are currently well into Marshmallow, and like with most ROMs there are some small bugs. But, on the whole My Device is more or less working as it should be.

Ichijoe said:
What makes you thin that his device is not have any Third Party ROMs (i.e CyanogenMod)? FYI this is the Tab Pro Fourm, and his Device should damned well be able to get to Lollipop or Marshmallow. e.g. CM12.1, or CM13.
As for rooting which you have to do at the start. Will most likely send him back to SamFirmware's where he'll need to likely first downgrade his Firmware to one that has a rootable exploit. i.e. a 'BOC1' ROM for the T325. (Which is the version I have). Through Odin (Samsung's Android Firmware Windows PC flashing Software). Then run something like the CFRoot App to get root.
NOTE: THIS WILL THROW YOUR KNOX FLAG!
This means that you'll never be able to use Knox services on that Device ever again. It will also throw the Warranty Flag as well Alerting Samsung that the Firmware was tampered with. For the moment (As I gather there is no known way to reset either of these Flags.) Not that this should stop you from installing either CM12.1 Lollipop (Seems to have lost support to) CM13 Marshmallow which is currently on a nightly release.
So the better question to ask is which T32x does Op even have? The T320 (Wi-Fi) The most common, and cheapest version has the greatest support. Where as the T325 (LTE), and T321 (3G) versions seem to be leaving behind. though even these are currently well into Marshmallow, and like with most ROMs there are some small bugs. But, on the whole My Device is more or less working as it should be.
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1) I read the OP. He said, "stock Lollipop or Marshmallow."
2) You don't have to root TouchWiz to install a custom ROM. All you have to do is install TWRP, but it doesn't matter because of #1 above.

Well yes if he wanted Stock then he'd be outta luck. But that is not how I read it. I read it that he has accepted the fact that Samsung have left us in the lurch concerning any future updates.
That's how I read it, so the question follows in how to install a Custom ROM. Granted it should be possible to install TWRP v. 3.0.1-0, though Odin, and then the Device appropriate ROM. It should go without saying that the T320, and T325 are not the same Device, even if they are both collectively known as Galaxy Tab Pro's 8.4. As such it would be upnto the owner to know which version he might need.

Ichijoe said:
Well yes if he wanted Stock then he'd be outta luck. But that is not how I read it.
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The problem, is folks really need to stop using the word "stock" as it really doesn't mean jack. Or at the least, means so many different things to different people, as to be basically meaningless. I would take stock to mean, what belongs on the device per the manufacturer, so that would be Kitkat TouchWiz in this case. To others (and probably what the OP is getting at) is a "pure" unskinned Google experience like Nexus. But seeing as Nexus is limited to such a small number of devices, I don't personally feel you can consider that "stock". CM is AOSP based, and at one time considered by many to be close to a pure AOSP experience. But those days are long gone, and there are so many proprietary CM features and apps now, you can't even begin to consider this "stock" by any means.
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_salguod said:
My goal would be to simply get to stock Lollipop or Marshmallow and have a stable, functional tablet that I don't have to tweak or mess with much. I'd also like to be able to go back if it proves too buggy. Is that feasible, or is rooting plus upgrading pretty much something that will require constant maintenance and tweaking?
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What you are asking for is CM12 or CM13 (LP or MM) or one of the CM based ROMs. Those are really your only choice when it comes to anything past KK on this device. The CM ROMs are are very stable at this point. You might run into an obscure bug, but to be honest, its less laggy and overall a much better experience than the official Samsung TouchWiz ROM. And if you want to be free of Samsung bloat, CM definitely does that as well.
Tweak or maintain? You don't have to do anything after flashing the ROM, if you don't want to. You can decide to update to newer nightly CM builds from time to time, but that is completely optional. And to be honest, even CM13 is so stable at this point, that the nightly updates don't really change much of anything.
Go back? That's a breeze. Just do a backup in TWRP custom recovery before flashing a ROM, and you can restore to that backup (basically a snapshot of your existing configuration).
_salguod said:
If it is possible, can someone point me to a how to for complete newbies?
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Honestly, just searching and reading are your best friend. You'll learn a lot more that way, than folk spoon-feeding you the info. The process isn't really all that hard. There may be a lot of esoteric lingo, but you can easily Google or use the XDA site search to find out what those terms mean. And once you've gone through the process, you'll likely be happy for the learning experience.
XDA is a wealth of information, for those willing to take the time to learn and search. All the answers you want are here in one form or other. Difficult to wade through at first, I'll agree with that. But all of us here had to go through the same thing at one time or other.
Its really hard to help someone when they say is "I'm a newb, tell me how to do this". Make a lot more sense for you to just dive in, then come back here with some specific questions, which we will gladly answer.

it would help to know what version OS you're running and the build #.
I rooted my tablet late last year (bought it in May 2015). Wasn't hard to do after some reading. Knox is still good too...1 yr warranty will be over soon.

Thanks all, I appreciate it. I've been doing some more digging to try to learn what everything means so I might know what I'm talking about. I started with the Lifehacker rooting guide (I can't post links yet, add this to lifehacker dot com: /5789397/the-always-up-to-date-guide-to-rooting-any-android-phone) and their how to flash a ROM guide (/how-to-flash-a-rom-to-your-android-phone-30885281) as well. Let me know if those aren't good places to start. I've also read through the CyanogenMod how to for the 8.4, which seems pretty thorough.
I definitely appreciate the push to search and learn, but it can feel like drinking from a firehose. Most "how to" posts are written assuming the reader knows the terminology and every post I read means Googling a half a dozen terms to understand it. For example, I have no idea what the Knox flag is or why I'd care if it got triggered. I don't care about the warranty flag, I'm past the 1 year mark so it doesn't really matter, right?
When I said "stock" I was referring to stock out of the box Android, not stock Samsung. Stock Samsung means staying with KitKat which I'd rather not do. My phone is a Motorola Droid Turbo, which I think is pretty close to stock Android Lollipop, so that I'm familiar with that.
However, I think I'm seeing that going stock Android isn't necessarily possible, or rather, other ROMs are easier to come by. Cyanogenmod seems to be the most popular and sounds very stable, I'll likely try that.
So, I don't need to root in order to flash a new ROM. What's unclear is do I need to do anything special to make sure I can go back to the out of the box Samsung KK that I have now in case I really screw it up or just don't like it and want to go back? Will the process of installing Cyanogenmod wipe my device (apps, files, accounts, data, etc.?
Any other surprises that a guy who has never done this might want to know before going in?
Thanks again for your patience and help.

I forgot to mention, I've got the wifi model, T-320. It's running 4.4.2, build number KOT49H.T320UEU1AOC1.

Well you have a number of choices for your T320 (WiFi), Sadly nonmof those stock. Since Samsung has never seen fit to ever giving us one. For me the Samsung (e.g. Vender ROMs), were always the 'Stock' ROMs. 'Pure' ROMs (al-la Nexus), are clearly Custom ROMs.
The best, and quickest way to learn how to update from Stock to Custom would be to hit up YouTube for a few short Vids on the subject.

_salguod said:
I've been doing some more digging to try to learn what everything means so I might know what I'm talking about. I started with the Lifehacker rooting guide (I can't post links yet, add this to lifehacker dot com: /5789397/the-always-up-to-date-guide-to-rooting-any-android-phone) and their how to flash a ROM guide (/how-to-flash-a-rom-to-your-android-phone-30885281) as well. Let me know if those aren't good places to start. I've also read through the CyanogenMod how to for the 8.4, which seems pretty thorough.
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Those aren't bad general guides, to just introduce you to the basic concepts and terms. Just keep in mind that every different Android device has its nuances, which vary by manufacturer and over time (from one device to another - even from the same manufacturer). So you'll be referring back to Tab Pro 8.4 specific guides eventually.
_salguod said:
I have no idea what the Knox flag is or why I'd care if it got triggered. I don't care about the warranty flag, I'm past the 1 year mark so it doesn't really matter, right?
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Basically, if you don't know what the Knox flag is, then it probably doesn't matter.
The longer story, Knox is a enterprise mobile solution made by Samsung. If you company doesn't use Knox (and you don't use your device for work), you don't need it. The huge majority of folks will never need Knox or want it.
You're right, that if the warranty is expired, the warranty flag doesn't matter. And honestly, I rooted my device while it still had a valid warranty. I'd rather have a device that I can use how I wish, and install what software I want (especially if Samsung isn't going to support it with updates) and warranty is a secondary concern, at most.
_salguod said:
What's unclear is do I need to do anything special to make sure I can go back to the out of the box Samsung KK that I have now in case I really screw it up or just don't like it and want to go back?
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Once you install TWRP custom recovery, you can make a backup of the current Samsung TouchWiz KK ROM; and revert to that if needed or desired.
But honestly, you won't want to go back. CM runs faster and smoother, with no Samsung bloat. You won't want to go back to the crappy TouchWiz ROM, that is 2 generations (Android versions) obsolete.
But it is a good idea to have a backup, in case flashing CM doesn't go right the first time, and the device won't boot.
_salguod said:
Will the process of installing Cyanogenmod wipe my device (apps, files, accounts, data, etc.?
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You will absolute want to wipe user data when installing CM. Not doing so will likely cause major bugs and/or failure to boot. This is the general rule whenever flashing a new ROM. Although for similar ROMs (such as minor CM updates) you can try to keep user data. This is called a "dirty flash".
You can backup a lot of your data before flashing CM:
Apps: After root, you can use the app Titanium Backup (highly recommended) to backup apps and app data
Accounts: Titanium can backup a lot of this stuff, as well. Depends on what you are talking about, specifically.
Files: just move them to SD card or your computer. Or use a cloud solution (there are many)
You should always be backing up your data, anyway, if its important to you.

_salguod said:
I forgot to mention, I've got the wifi model, T-320. It's running 4.4.2, build number KOT49H.T320UEU1AOC1.
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Same firmware as what I had prior to rooting it.
The cyanogen articles give a good rundown on how to install it. The only thing that I'm not sure about is whether getting the sdcard to be formatted/recognized is still an issue or not.
When last I checked back in Feb. it seemed like that was still unresolved. I have a 64gb card and getting it to be read by CM13 was absolutely critical. So any move to CM13 was postponed.
Running Kitkat is fine for me...after rooting it, I uninstalled/froze a lot of software incl. a lot of Samsung crap that was eating the battery. The battery is my only complaint with the tablet.

AndroidPrince1 said:
The cyanogen articles give a good rundown on how to install it. The only thing that I'm not sure about is whether getting the sdcard to be formatted/recognized is still an issue or not.
When last I checked back in Feb. it seemed like that was still unresolved. I have a 64gb card and getting it to be read by CM13 was absolutely critical. So any move to CM13 was postponed.
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The SD card issue on CM13 was solved in early March. It was holding me back as well (stayed on CM12.1) , until I saw it was solved. Now I've been using CM13 for over a month. My 64GB card works great with CM13.
AndroidPrince1 said:
Running Kitkat is fine for me...after rooting it, I uninstalled/froze a lot of software incl. a lot of Samsung crap that was eating the battery. The battery is my only complaint with the tablet.
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If you flash CM, you'll see its a lot smoother and snappier, especially on the home screens, app drawer, etc.

Thanks all, I plan on biting the bullet some time soon. Too much other stuff on my plate (like car repairs, etc.) so it'll have to wait for a bit. I'll check back in when I do. I'm looking forward to it.

redpoint73 said:
The SD card issue on CM13 was solved in early March. It was holding me back as well (stayed on CM12.1) , until I saw it was solved. Now I've been using CM13 for over a month. My 64GB card works great with CM13.
If you flash CM, you'll see its a lot smoother and snappier, especially on the home screens, app drawer, etc.
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Good to know on the sdcard thing...looks like I'll have to read up again on how to do.
Thanks for the note.

_salguod said:
What's unclear is do I need to do anything special to make sure I can go back to the out of the box Samsung KK that I have now in case I really screw it up or just don't like it and want to go back?
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BTW, you can always restore your device to 100% stock (Samsung) by downloading the firmware from sammobile.com/firmwares and flashing it using Odin. If you get into trouble, this will help get you back out.
But since flashing CM13 nightlies is relatively easy, I don't think you'll have any serious trouble, just the normal learning curve.
I've had my SM-T320 on Cyanogenmod since the day after I bought it in 2014 and never looked back :good:

CafeKampuchia said:
BTW, you can always restore your device to 100% stock (Samsung) by downloading the firmware from sammobile.com/firmwares and flashing it using Odin. If you get into trouble, this will help get you back out.
But since flashing CM13 nightlies is relatively easy, I don't think you'll have any serious trouble, just the normal learning curve.
I've had my SM-T320 on Cyanogenmod since the day after I bought it in 2014 and never looked back :good:
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I don't see any US firmwares on the sammobile.com site. Am I looking in the wrong place?

_salguod said:
I don't see any US firmwares on the sammobile.com site. Am I looking in the wrong place?
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Cellular South is the US firmware for some reason.

I'm trying to load the latest CM 13.0 nightly this morning and running into issues.
I'm following the install instructions on the CM website and the loading of a custom recovery is failing at step 7. I get the start of the blue bar on my tablet, but I get this error in the command prompt:
Downloading device's PIT file...
ERROR: Failed to send request to end PIT file transfer!
ERROR: Failed to download PIT file!
Ending session...
ERROR: Failed to send end session packet!
Releasing device interface...​
I've tried twice with the the factory cable and a third time with an alternate cable same result.
How do I fix that?

I should mention that I'm working on a Windows 10 computer.

Rooting without exploding the device? Have not had an HTC in a long time.

Just ordered my HTC 10, excited...and nervous as I've not had a new device (like long term) in... like over 1.5 years. :S I'm mainly hoping the microSD card slot likes my 128GB U1 x633 card so I can finally have enough space for all my vinyl rips, and then I hope the DAC is as good as they say.
So anyway, I've been reading all of this stuff about rooting and loosing the radio connection and something about the data encryption breaking everything O.O!!! Holy crap. I just wanna root it, find a good rom and dev to support and enjoy it. This is what I do on my current daily driver, my old OPO. I've been trying to look around, search, and read to make sure that I avoid all of these issues mentioned but so far I've not found a concrete explanation of why said issues happen. Not new to rooting/flashing at all, but HTC devices always seemed to of been touchy when it came to custom stuff, and I don't want to explode this thing. My main problem is that I've been away from HTC for.... well since early 2014.
My current knowledge of android stuffz tells me to:
1) Unlock Bootloader via ADB
2) Flash TWRP/Other Customer Recovery
3) Find sweet rom, flash and spend hours customizing
4) Flash xposed and go crazy with modules until the phone explodes and then scale it back to a realistic level
5) Enjoy Phone
6) Cake
HOWEVER... I remember HTC devices having a bit more complication due to things like... RUU and firmware.. I don't even remember what RUU means lol... But I remember when I had my M8 I was always fighting these dang firmware issues. While I ended up with a fantastic experience, I remember fighting for almost 2 months or so to get it to behave. Battery was out of control, phone was crashing, camera exploding. Oh man it sucked, but finally someone really cool was like... "Yo dude I had these issues, this is what you have to do with HTC stuff" , and after a full hour of flashing shiz I had the phone running smoothly and behaving correctly. Something about... you had to flash each level of the firmware and then reboot and...something. Like you couldn't just skip to the latest firmware? I don't remember exactly.
So anyway, the main question I have is. Could someone either
A.) Point me in the direction of a post or something to study to understand what to do and not do. I've searched but not really found anything solid. Something for folks who've been off the HTC scene for a while.
B.) If there isn't really a single post on this, perhaps if someone doesn't mind explaining this (even pm is fine) to me so I don't explord this expensive mofo and cry.
C.) Give me a hug, because I am nervous about having a new device O.O , it's been so long and I'm so used to Cm13 and xposed and all that jazz. I is be scared.
I would be grateful to any and all help/support.
Anyway, thanks in advanced guys and gals. :3

Locklear308 said:
Just ordered my HTC 10, excited...and nervous as I've not had a new device (like long term) in... like over 1.5 years. :S I'm mainly hoping the microSD card slot likes my 128GB U1 x633 card so I can finally have enough space for all my vinyl rips, and then I hope the DAC is as good as they say.
So anyway, I've been reading all of this stuff about rooting and loosing the radio connection and something about the data encryption breaking everything O.O!!! Holy crap. I just wanna root it, find a good rom and dev to support and enjoy it. This is what I do on my current daily driver, my old OPO. I've been trying to look around, search, and read to make sure that I avoid all of these issues mentioned but so far I've not found a concrete explanation of why said issues happen. Not new to rooting/flashing at all, but HTC devices always seemed to of been touchy when it came to custom stuff, and I don't want to explode this thing. My main problem is that I've been away from HTC for.... well since early 2014.
My current knowledge of android stuffz tells me to:
1) Unlock Bootloader via ADB
2) Flash TWRP/Other Customer Recovery
3) Find sweet rom, flash and spend hours customizing
4) Flash xposed and go crazy with modules until the phone explodes and then scale it back to a realistic level
5) Enjoy Phone
6) Cake
HOWEVER... I remember HTC devices having a bit more complication due to things like... RUU and firmware.. I don't even remember what RUU means lol... But I remember when I had my M8 I was always fighting these dang firmware issues. While I ended up with a fantastic experience, I remember fighting for almost 2 months or so to get it to behave. Battery was out of control, phone was crashing, camera exploding. Oh man it sucked, but finally someone really cool was like... "Yo dude I had these issues, this is what you have to do with HTC stuff" , and after a full hour of flashing shiz I had the phone running smoothly and behaving correctly. Something about... you had to flash each level of the firmware and then reboot and...something. Like you couldn't just skip to the latest firmware? I don't remember exactly.
So anyway, the main question I have is. Could someone either
A.) Point me in the direction of a post or something to study to understand what to do and not do. I've searched but not really found anything solid. Something for folks who've been off the HTC scene for a while.
B.) If there isn't really a single post on this, perhaps if someone doesn't mind explaining this (even pm is fine) to me so I don't explord this expensive mofo and cry.
C.) Give me a hug, because I am nervous about having a new device O.O , it's been so long and I'm so used to Cm13 and xposed and all that jazz. I is be scared.
I would be grateful to any and all help/support.
Anyway, thanks in advanced guys and gals. :3
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I was in the same boat haven't owed an HTC since the Fuze running Windows lol and have been a loyal Samsung user since the S1 so the whole adb fastboot thing was a little overwhelming. I followed the guide in the forum and had a few hiccups but overall went pretty smooth. Adb is definitely not as user friendly as Odin on a Sammy device but not to difficult. My only tips would be make sure you have all the latest drivers, twrp, and adb installed. It seems pretty hard to permanently brick a device these days from my experience so I wouldn't worry to much. As far as the radio not working, as long as you keep your device encrypted you won't lose your radio. I'm sure the devs will find a fix for this soon enough. Enjoy your new 10!
Edit: I'm using a lexar 128gb 633x U1 micro sd and all is well. Worked with adoptable storage also but felt a little sluggish so I went back to using it as external storage.

AndroiderM said:
I was in the same boat haven't owed an HTC since the Fuze running Windows lol and have been a loyal Samsung user since the S1 so the whole adb fastboot thing was a little overwhelming. I followed the guide in the forum and had a few hiccups but overall went pretty smooth. Adb is definitely not as user friendly as Odin on a Sammy device but not to difficult. My only tips would be make sure you have all the latest drivers, twrp, and adb installed. It seems pretty hard to permanently brick a device these days from my experience so I wouldn't worry to much. As far as the radio not working, as long as you keep your device encrypted you won't lose your radio. I'm sure the devs will find a fix for this soon enough. Enjoy your new 10!
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Well I am comfortable in adb :3 so that's not a worry. So un-enecrypting it is just an option, and I should just avoid it for now? What is the advantage of un-encrypting it?
What guide did you use? Also, what about all this firmware and ruu stuff?
Sorry for so many questions... Lol this thing wasn't cheap and I am nervous , BTW what setup do you have? Root? ROM?
Thanks for replying :3

Locklear308 said:
Well I am comfortable in adb :3 so that's not a worry. So un-enecrypting it is just an option, and I should just avoid it for now? What is the advantage of un-encrypting it?
What guide did you use? Also, what about all this firmware and ruu stuff?
Sorry for so many questions... Lol this thing wasn't cheap and I am nervous , BTW what setup do you have? Root? ROM?
Thanks for replying :3
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
From what I understand unencrypting breaks the radio. With it unencrypted you would get slightly better performance and boot times I think. I would definitely avoid it for now. I'm currently using twrp with Viper 10 rom. I've also used leedroid and still trying to find which one I prefer. I've only had my 10 for 3 days lol so I haven't found my sweet setup just yet. I left s-on for now as I don't really need it off.
No idea about the firmware and ruu stuff. I made a backup of stock rom before I started flashing. I'm pretty sure there is or will be a repo with factory firmware, radios, etc. I don't know what ruu stands for either lol.
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Did you get carrier or unlocked version

AndroiderM said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-root-optionally-s-off-radio-t3373025
From what I understand unencrypting breaks the radio. With it unencrypted you would get slightly better performance and boot times I think. I would definitely avoid it for now. I'm currently using twrp with Viper 10 rom. I've also used leedroid and still trying to find which one I prefer. I've only had my 10 for 3 days lol so I haven't found my sweet setup just yet. I left s-on for now as I don't really need it off.
No idea about the firmware and ruu stuff. I made a backup of stock rom before I started flashing. I'm pretty sure there is or will be a repo with factory firmware, radios, etc. I don't know what ruu stands for either lol.
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Did you get carrier or unlocked version
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Unlocked, at least that's what the guy on Swappa marked it as. *fingers crossed*
Got it for 510. One scratch on the metal
Alright so I will back things up and avoid the radio breaking stuff. I will check that link, thanks man

Locklear308 said:
Unlocked, at least that's what the guy on Swappa marked it as. *fingers crossed*
Got it for 510. One scratch on the metal
Alright so I will back things up and avoid the radio breaking stuff. I will check that link, thanks man
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No problem, mine has two scratches on metal too lol but guy gave me $200 and unlocked htc 10 w uh oh protection and original receipt for my s7e at&t branded locked bootloader ?. Was a no brainer for me

Locklear308 said:
Just ordered my HTC 10, excited...and nervous as I've not had a new device (like long term) in... like over 1.5 years. :S I'm mainly hoping the microSD card slot likes my 128GB U1 x633 card so I can finally have enough space for all my vinyl rips, and then I hope the DAC is as good as they say.
So anyway, I've been reading all of this stuff about rooting and loosing the radio connection and something about the data encryption breaking everything O.O!!! Holy crap. I just wanna root it, find a good rom and dev to support and enjoy it. This is what I do on my current daily driver, my old OPO. I've been trying to look around, search, and read to make sure that I avoid all of these issues mentioned but so far I've not found a concrete explanation of why said issues happen. Not new to rooting/flashing at all, but HTC devices always seemed to of been touchy when it came to custom stuff, and I don't want to explode this thing. My main problem is that I've been away from HTC for.... well since early 2014.
My current knowledge of android stuffz tells me to:
1) Unlock Bootloader via ADB
2) Flash TWRP/Other Customer Recovery
3) Find sweet rom, flash and spend hours customizing
4) Flash xposed and go crazy with modules until the phone explodes and then scale it back to a realistic level
5) Enjoy Phone
6) Cake
HOWEVER... I remember HTC devices having a bit more complication due to things like... RUU and firmware.. I don't even remember what RUU means lol... But I remember when I had my M8 I was always fighting these dang firmware issues. While I ended up with a fantastic experience, I remember fighting for almost 2 months or so to get it to behave. Battery was out of control, phone was crashing, camera exploding. Oh man it sucked, but finally someone really cool was like... "Yo dude I had these issues, this is what you have to do with HTC stuff" , and after a full hour of flashing shiz I had the phone running smoothly and behaving correctly. Something about... you had to flash each level of the firmware and then reboot and...something. Like you couldn't just skip to the latest firmware? I don't remember exactly.
So anyway, the main question I have is. Could someone either
A.) Point me in the direction of a post or something to study to understand what to do and not do. I've searched but not really found anything solid. Something for folks who've been off the HTC scene for a while.
B.) If there isn't really a single post on this, perhaps if someone doesn't mind explaining this (even pm is fine) to me so I don't explord this expensive mofo and cry.
C.) Give me a hug, because I am nervous about having a new device O.O , it's been so long and I'm so used to Cm13 and xposed and all that jazz. I is be scared.
I would be grateful to any and all help/support.
Anyway, thanks in advanced guys and gals. :3
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I'm on my third htc10. Exploded last two after rooting haha. Really not hard mate. Just read the guides provided and ask any questions you need. Most ppl on XDA will be helpful, and some will reply like me lol.
BTW, simple answer, unlock phone via HTC Dev, then flash Viper. Done.

purple patch said:
I'm on my third htc10. Exploded last two after rooting haha. Really not hard mate. Just read the guides provided and ask any questions you need. Most ppl on XDA will be helpful, and some will reply like me lol.
BTW, simple answer, unlock phone via HTC Dev, then flash Viper. Done.
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Alright neato, so do I need to ensure I let it download any and all OTA's for the firmware before doing anything? Is s-off safe to get as well in regards to the issues I referred to in my OP above?
And his is this viper? Does it allow things like settings similar to cm and also allow for xposed?
Thanks for replying man, I feel more comfortable now as it sounds like there isn't anything crazy required to safely root this thing . Phew!!

Locklear308 said:
Alright neato, so do I need to ensure I let it download any and all OTA's for the firmware before doing anything? Is s-off safe to get as well in regards to the issues I referred to in my OP above?
And his is this viper? Does it allow things like settings similar to cm and also allow for xposed?
Thanks for replying man, I feel more comfortable now as it sounds like there isn't anything crazy required to safely root this thing . Phew!!
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I got an M9 for my wife not that long ago and just had my 10 show up today and gonna root. Just do like the other dude said. Find a guide that says how to use HTC dev to unlock the bootloader. You can't just enter a command in adb like "unlock bootloader" and have it work. Go to the HTC dev website, make an account, pick your device and it walks you through the steps of unlocking the bootloader. That's really the only semi-difficult part IMO. Then proceed as normal. Download twrp, make a stock nand, download ROM, su binaries, kernel, etc. etc. go to recovery and flash. I'm sure there's a couple other steps in their but that's the basics.
As for Viper, it tends to come with so many mods built in, I'd personally be kind of reluctant to use xposed with it to to much modifying. It's a great ROM, but so is leedroid You can try each and see what you like, but if you want to more safely use xposed I'd personally go with leedroid.

DroidIt! said:
I got an M9 for my wife not that long ago and just had my 10 show up today and gonna root. Just do like the other dude said. Find a guide that says how to use HTC dev to unlock the bootloader. You can't just enter a command in adb like "unlock bootloader" and have it work. Go to the HTC dev website, make an account, pick your device and it walks you through the steps of unlocking the bootloader. That's really the only semi-difficult part IMO. Then proceed as normal. Download twrp, make a stock nand, download ROM, su binaries, kernel, etc. etc. go to recovery and flash. I'm sure there's a couple other steps in their but that's the basics.
As for Viper, it tends to come with so many mods built in, I'd personally be kind of reluctant to use xposed with it to to much modifying. It's a great ROM, but so is leedroid You can try each and see what you like, but if you want to more safely use xposed I'd personally go with leedroid.
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Oh right, I do remember about the whole HTC dev website thing. I was mainly just concerned with the firmware issues and stuff that I had before.
Is there any kind of limitations for reasons not to upgrade to the highest available firmware? Something like, maybe the highest one can't be rooted yet or something like that. I just want to make sure that I don't shoot myself in the foot haha.
Thank you all for your help

Locklear308 said:
Oh right, I do remember about the whole HTC dev website thing. I was mainly just concerned with the firmware issues and stuff that I had before.
Is there any kind of limitations for reasons not to upgrade to the highest available firmware? Something like, maybe the highest one can't be rooted yet or something like that. I just want to make sure that I don't shoot myself in the foot haha.
Thank you all for your help
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Hey, I'm not sure about firmware not being able to be rooted but the best way to go about it (what I did anyway) is to unlock the phone via htcdev.com, flash a custom recovery (Latest TWRP which has also worked around the encryption stuff?) and then back up everything other than the data partition. That way, no matter what you do, you always have something to revert back to. The reason for not backing up data is due to the encryption. From my understanding, restoring an encrypted data partition would break things. Once you have the phone unlocked and recovery sorted, you are free to flash viper etc. and root the phone using SuperSU. I'm sure you are aware unlocked devices are quite easy to root so whatever you flash will most likely be on latest firmware, already rooted.
As for installing OTAs etc., you need unmodified system and recovery which is where the backups kick in. Simply back up your data on an SD card (pictures etc. not the actual partition) and restore the system-image and recovery. This should reset the phone although I'm not sure if it'll wipe anything and allow you to do OTA updates. Alternatively, get the latest firmware for your device from htcdev (again, not sure if they have firmware on there) and use that instead.
If any of the information above is incorrect or missing steps, someone feel free to correct me.

[HELP THREAD] Ask any questions [NOOB FRIENDLY]

Welcome everyone!
This thread has been created for extreme newbies/noobs and for their benefit. Not only noobs, but everyone is free to post questions and also give answers to those questions. Any type of question is allowed as long as it is related about the device. No off-topic discussions are allowed!​
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Regards,
PoseidonKing

Let me be the first to ask a complete noob question.
I bought a Mi5s a couple of months ago and loved the phone. However, Miui 8 is becoming somewhat of a annoyance for me. I flsahed the global ROM by making an EDL cable, pretty straight forward. But i'm still missing the stock android experience I had with my nexus 5. Today I saw that Lineage OS is being developed for the Mi5s and when this becomes more stable I really would like to try it.
My question is, where do I get started.
I know ik need to request to unlock my bootloader (I did a couple of days ago) and that I then need to somehow install TWRP. But thats it. Is there a manual I can use or at least read to better understand how the process works and what I need to do?
Thank you very much
p.s. I read a lot of stuff about the mi5 and how to flash it but i'm wondering if the process is the same since the Lineage OS 14.1 is ported and unofficial.

Noob question here too, loving the phone, battery life is amazing after samsung s4 lol.
I read on i guess xiaomi.eu forums not to wipe system partition on twrp. I was always wiping system ( i was just leaving sd and internal and wipe anything else.) So, i shouldn't wipe system on mi5s?

FKy85 said:
Let me be the first to ask a complete noob question.
I bought a Mi5s a couple of months ago and loved the phone. However, Miui 8 is becoming somewhat of a annoyance for me. I flsahed the global ROM by making an EDL cable, pretty straight forward. But i'm still missing the stock android experience I had with my nexus 5. Today I saw that Lineage OS is being developed for the Mi5s and when this becomes more stable I really would like to try it.
My question is, where do I get started.
I know ik need to request to unlock my bootloader (I did a couple of days ago) and that I then need to somehow install TWRP. But thats it. Is there a manual I can use or at least read to better understand how the process works and what I need to do?
Thank you very much
p.s. I read a lot of stuff about the mi5 and how to flash it but i'm wondering if the process is the same since the Lineage OS 14.1 is ported and unofficial.
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Hi
First of all, I agree totally that MiUi gets a crappy feel after you get used to it and start missing the old vanilla Android. Also, yes. You need to send an unlock request for unlocking your device. Refer to an unlock thread or wait if there's no thread yet. Somebody will eventually make a thread regarding this unlocking and flashing TWRP thingy (mostly me). And unlocking ain't gonna void your warranty, so all good. I don't think that Unlocking the BL is the hard part. You've just gotta apply for permission on their site with a good reason why you wanna unlock it and all. Flashing TWRP and rooting- here comes the fishy part. You can't just flash any TWRP on any device (unless you are that stupid). So wait till a proper thread has been posted about this topic. I would suggest you to go ahead and unlock the device. And also, no question is a noob question. I just named the thread like this so it sounds better. XDA is an open community built with the sole purpose of helping techy-brains all over the world.
Hit Thanks if I Helped You!!!
Regards
PoseidonKing

atakanadil said:
Noob question here too, loving the phone, battery life is amazing after samsung s4 lol.
I read on i guess xiaomi.eu forums not to wipe system partition on twrp. I was always wiping system ( i was just leaving sd and internal and wipe anything else.) So, i shouldn't wipe system on mi5s?
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Dunno bro, I ain't got the device. (I would accept donations for a new device though..... LOL!).
Regards
PoseidonKing

PoseidonKing said:
Hi
First of all, I agree totally that MiUi gets a crappy feel after you get used to it and start missing the old vanilla Android. Also, yes. You need to send an unlock request for unlocking your device. Refer to an unlock thread or wait if there's no thread yet. Somebody will eventually make a thread regarding this unlocking and flashing TWRP thingy (mostly me). And unlocking ain't gonna void your warranty, so all good. I don't think that Unlocking the BL is the hard part. You've just gotta apply for permission on their site with a good reason why you wanna unlock it and all. Flashing TWRP and rooting- here comes the fishy part. You can't just flash any TWRP on any device (unless you are that stupid). So wait till a proper thread has been posted about this topic. I would suggest you to go ahead and unlock the device. And also, no question is a noob question. I just named the thread like this so it sounds better. XDA is an open community built with the sole purpose of helping techy-brains all over the world.
Hit Thanks if I Helped You!!!
Regards
PoseidonKing
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Thanks for your reply. I got my unlocking permissions but when I try to unlock with the unlocking tool I get an error that the mi phone isn't connected. On the Miui forum I read a couple of different ways to unlock the device. One of 'm stated you can unlock it on Globa Stable but you have to enter your Mi account details under developer options/MuInlock. And if you can't find that option you have to use a developer rom. Problem is, there is no Global developer rom that is newer than the global. Can you help me?

FKy85 said:
Thanks for your reply. I got my unlocking permissions but when I try to unlock with the unlocking tool I get an error that the mi phone isn't connected. On the Miui forum I read a couple of different ways to unlock the device. One of 'm stated you can unlock it on Globa Stable but you have to enter your Mi account details under developer options/MuInlock. And if you can't find that option you have to use a developer rom. Problem is, there is no Global developer rom that is newer than the global. Can you help me?
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All that about flashing developer ROM for unlocking is plain bull****. I unlocked mine on global stable 8.0.6.0 (my redmi note 3). If you have been getting errors unlocking the device, make sure you are following these steps correctly:
1. Update your Mi adb drivers.
2. Enable developer options in your phone, enable OEM Unlocking and USB Debugging (because 60% of people forget this step).
3. If you've got permission officially, wait for a week or so, because it needs time to get our name and Mi Account ID registered on their servers as they get up to hundreds of unlock requests per day.
4. After a week has passed, connect your phone to the PC and start the unlock tool. This time it will get unlocked successfully. I guarantee you that this method will work if you follow it exactly how I told you to. I have tested it myself and trust me, it works!
Do update me on what happens with your device. Best of Luck! May the servers be with you... LOL! :laugh:
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Regards
PoseidonKing

FKy85 said:
Let me be the first to ask a complete noob question.
I bought a Mi5s a couple of months ago and loved the phone. However, Miui 8 is becoming somewhat of a annoyance for me. I flsahed the global ROM by making an EDL cable, pretty straight forward. But i'm still missing the stock android experience I had with my nexus 5. Today I saw that Lineage OS is being developed for the Mi5s and when this becomes more stable I really would like to try it.
My question is, where do I get started.
I know ik need to request to unlock my bootloader (I did a couple of days ago) and that I then need to somehow install TWRP. But thats it. Is there a manual I can use or at least read to better understand how the process works and what I need to do?
Thank you very much
p.s. I read a lot of stuff about the mi5 and how to flash it but i'm wondering if the process is the same since the Lineage OS 14.1 is ported and unofficial.
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This would be a good place to start:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...w-to-flash-xiaomi-eu-roms-on-your-mi5s.36132/

PoseidonKing said:
All that about flashing developer ROM for unlocking is plain bull****. I unlocked mine on global stable 8.0.6.0 (my redmi note 3). If you have been getting errors unlocking the device, make sure you are following these steps correctly:
1. Update your Mi adb drivers.
2. Enable developer options in your phone, enable OEM Unlocking and USB Debugging (because 60% of people forget this step).
3. If you've got permission officially, wait for a week or so, because it needs time to get our name and Mi Account ID registered on their servers as they get up to hundreds of unlock requests per day.
4. After a week has passed, connect your phone to the PC and start the unlock tool. This time it will get unlocked successfully. I guarantee you that this method will work if you follow it exactly how I told you to. I have tested it myself and trust me, it works!
Do update me on what happens with your device. Best of Luck! May the servers be with you... LOL! :laugh:
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PoseidonKing
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It worked!! The server's were strong ? It was a driver or device issue. I tried it on another laptop and it worked instantly. Thank you for your time and effort. On to the next step.
P.s. strange thing is I never received a text messages from Xiaomi that I could unlock but when logging in to the unlocking tool the check said my account had permissions to unlock. Whatever, it worked right.

MY xiaomi mi5s
Hey!
Maybe it has nothing to do here but I did not know where to post ... really would love to help I'm pretty desperate!
Last night I saw on some video with headphones and went to sleep. This morning I got up .. and somehow I realize that although the headphones are not connected wonder, think they are like inside and silent ..
Does anyone have an idea how to solve it?
(I tried to connect and spend, and do a restart)
Thank you very much for your help!

FKy85 said:
It worked!! The server's were strong It was a driver or device issue. I tried it on another laptop and it worked instantly. Thank you for your time and effort. On to the next step.
P.s. strange thing is I never received a text messages from Xiaomi that I could unlock but when logging in to the unlocking tool the check said my account had permissions to unlock. Whatever, it worked right.
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Wow! Glad it worked!
Regards
PoseidonKing

PoseidonKing said:
Wow! Glad it worked!
Regards
PoseidonKing
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ok, so i got twrp installed. pretty straight forward, but when i try to install lineage 14.1 twrp says úpdater process ended with error 7' before that it says no md5 file found. am i doeing something wrong?
ok, got it to work. i changed the filesystem to ext4

Mi5s focus
So I have Mi5s , from gearbest, not changed anything on it, no rom or anything.., not sure how to do it, so I am using it the way it came... first question, what can I get if I change/update rom or anything like that ?
second. autofocus on video is really annoying and only reason to get this phone was camera and video... I see that on miui website , they still didnt get any answer for this problem, so maybe someone here can help me with that. All works ok if I use some other software and MANUAL mode, but its pain in the ass to adjust everything manual all the time.. so is there any solution to that or no ? global 8.2 stable

Hi!
I cannot find an explanation for an TWRP advanced wipe option.
Can someone explain me what means wipe cust?

dominuspro said:
Hi!
I cannot find an explanation for an TWRP advanced wipe option.
Can someone explain me what means wipe cust?
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It will wipe the cust partition. I don't recommend it though if you want to go back to MIUI..

So I see "NOOB FRIENDLY THREAD". Sorry if my questions are too much noobish.
I just bought MI5S on aliexpress with installed international version of firmware on my phone. And I want to know how to start?
1) How to unlock everything (+root) + install TWRP + update to latest firmware + backup. Is there a guide for novices?
2) Do I need mi account? (I never user xiaomi phones before)
3) Do we have any stable unofiicial firmwares?
4) Is there a way to disable all xiaomi-related things?

Hi I have a Mi 5S plus.
Would like to root for using some programs (gmd, Autovoice, few others).
Not interested in trying new roms, and prefer a simple root, hoping that I can receive Xiaomi software updates without big problems.
Possible? Instructions??

Hi, maybe not much of a n00b question but didn't want to make a new thread for this little thing.
I own Mi5S since yesterday 3/64GB version and first issue i've noticed is that its getting hot really quick (battery sensor in settings shows 38'C) i know it has Snap 821 but still, making a phone call and feeling hot in hand. Sure, the aluminium back is transfering the heat but its not a pleasant feeling. Is that normal with this model ?

Unlock, root, which custom
Hey experts,
I see a few questions pending, but I hope someone is gonna pick them up soon, and mine as well! 
 @sesser, mine does get a bit warm sometimes, but never to an uncomfortable level. Hard to say if you're more sensitive, or whether there's something wrong with your phone...
First a bit about my situation:
I bought the mi5s 3/64GB directly from the Xiaomi online store in China.
Unfortunately I dropped it within less then a month and now the 3 touch buttons are going crazy. Fingerprint scanner is still working fine though. I found a temporary fix with the apps "remap buttons" and "VirtualSoftKeys". But MIUI kills these apps all the time, so I have to re-enable them in settings/accessibility. Definitely not a long term solution!
I also managed to install the google play store. But it is unavailable quite frequently.
I'd like to install LineageOS as soon as there is a stable release. But until then, I hope to find a better solution than what I have now.
So here are my questions:
1) Does the MIUI.eu rom have any advantages over the Chinese version? For example I have quite a few system apps that are in Chinese. Would be nice to have them in English. Or getting the search bar in the notifications go to google.com... Or is there another stable rom you'd recommend instead? Or are the differences so small, that I should wait for LineageOS?
2) What reason should I tell Xiaomi for unlocking my phone? I read "My Mi5s came with a custom ROM. Please approve my unlock permissions so I can flash the official MIUI ROMs." But I don't think that works, as I bought mine straight from their website.
Thanks!
Linus X.

Linus X. said:
Hey experts,
I see a few questions pending, but I hope someone is gonna pick them up soon, and mine as well!
@sesser, mine does get a bit warm sometimes, but never to an uncomfortable level. Hard to say if you're more sensitive, or whether there's something wrong with your phone...
First a bit about my situation:
I bought the mi5s 3/64GB directly from the Xiaomi online store in China.
Unfortunately I dropped it within less then a month and now the 3 touch buttons are going crazy. Fingerprint scanner is still working fine though. I found a temporary fix with the apps "remap buttons" and "VirtualSoftKeys". But MIUI kills these apps all the time, so I have to re-enable them in settings/accessibility. Definitely not a long term solution!
I also managed to install the google play store. But it is unavailable quite frequently.
I'd like to install LineageOS as soon as there is a stable release. But until then, I hope to find a better solution than what I have now.
So here are my questions:
1) Does the MIUI.eu rom have any advantages over the Chinese version? For example I have quite a few system apps that are in Chinese. Would be nice to have them in English. Or getting the search bar in the notifications go to google.com... Or is there another stable rom you'd recommend instead? Or are the differences so small, that I should wait for LineageOS?
2) What reason should I tell Xiaomi for unlocking my phone? I read "My Mi5s came with a custom ROM. Please approve my unlock permissions so I can flash the official MIUI ROMs." But I don't think that works, as I bought mine straight from their website.
Thanks!
Linus X.
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The newest lineageos version is very stable and bug free when you make a clean install with dynamic gapps

Anything to look out for before buying a note 8 pro?

Hello!
I'm about to buy a Xiaomi Note 8 pro but I wanted to know first if there is a version I should avoid because my goal is in the future to use the phone with custom roms and root it. I come from a Moto Z play with a locked bootloader, that's why I'm very concerned about this. I don't want to make the same mistake.
Thank you!

Better get 9 pro, snapdragon

Forget about this phone if your goal is modding.
This phone can be modded, not that hard. But if you don't pay attention, say hello to your local Xiaomi technician and send my regards.
This phone brick easily. If you choose to leave MIUI, never go back. But if you are like me, who wants MIUI with root and stuff, it will give you headaches instead of control you want. A new update just released and you want to install that on your customized bootloader or recovery? Goodluck with that.

Or get an Android One phone.
kekesed97 said:
Forget about this phone if your goal is modding.
This phone can be modded, not that hard. But if you don't pay attention, say hello to your local Xiaomi technician and send my regards.
This phone brick easily. If you choose to leave MIUI, never go back. But if you are like me, who wants MIUI with root and stuff, it will give you headaches instead of control you want. A new update just released and you want to install that on your customized bootloader or recovery? Goodluck with that.
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Thanks for the replies, if don't mind:
gaban05 said:
Better get 9 pro, snapdragon
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I'd have to buy the 64 gb version because I'm on a budget but if it will give me a better experience than the 8pro in modding, I will consider it
kekesed97 said:
Forget about this phone if your goal is modding.
This phone can be modded, not that hard. But if you don't pay attention, say hello to your local Xiaomi technician and send my regards.
This phone brick easily. If you choose to leave MIUI, never go back. But if you are like me, who wants MIUI with root and stuff, it will give you headaches instead of control you want. A new update just released and you want to install that on your customized bootloader or recovery? Goodluck with that.
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Wow, I didn't imagine it could be that bad This would be my first xiaomi (I come from a Moto Z play 1 with locked bootloader) and I wouldn't be modding it until january.
I don't know the perks of the device. My need is a phone that would let me play two pokemon go accounts simultaneously and be able to spoof by installing smali patcher (I don't care if I can spoof with one app at the time, it's quite enough). So I guess from your comment, I should avoid the 8pro if I want to achieve this.
jshames said:
Or get an Android One phone.
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What would you recommend me? I can't spend more than U$D240 because I have to import the thing to my country. Take into consideration that this will be my every day phone, not a spare one and the phone OS MUST be 64 bits.

alc112 said:
Wow, I didn't imagine it could be that bad This would be my first xiaomi (I come from a Moto Z play 1 with locked bootloader) and I wouldn't be modding it until january.
I don't know the perks of the device. My need is a phone that would let me play two pokemon go accounts simultaneously and be able to spoof by installing smali patcher (I don't care if I can spoof with one app at the time, it's quite enough). So I guess from your comment, I should avoid the 8pro if I want to achieve this.
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For that kind of mod, I think it can be done. I have Orangefox Recovery, Magisk, EdXposed and their modules. MIUI support Dual Apps simultaneously or an entirely new phone in Second Space natively. As long as you don't try to modify the bootloader without disabling DMVerity, you are good to go. The problematic part is updating MIUI with custom bootloader. You need to restore the vanilla bootloader, vanilla recovery, update, and customize every update. In my case, since the missing part is Magisk Binary and Recovery, I just need to reinstall both mod.
TL;DR: It's doable with your utmost precaution.

Question All in one tool in the works?

I really hate asking this type of question as it makes me sound like a choosy beggar, but is there an all in one tool in the works for unlocking/rooting/flashing/etc? As I grow older, I desire rooting and tinkering, however I also value my free time a lot more lately (can't have both, right?).
Apologies if this is a silly question, however I thought I'd ask anyway! Thanks!

CacheOnlyPlease said:
I really hate asking this type of question as it makes me sound like a choosy beggar, but is there an all in one tool in the works for unlocking/rooting/flashing/etc? As I grow older, I desire rooting and tinkering, however I also value my free time a lot more lately (can't have both, right?).
Apologies if this is a silly question, however I thought I'd ask anyway! Thanks!
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As far as I know, only the original Pixel 1 has an all-in-one tool* ("click button, wait, have fun - even though the P1 tool only came years after release!"), it has always been the culmination of a couple ADB steps/commands in a certain order, plus some manual flashing/magisk file creation incl. copying a couple files from your phone to your PC or vice versa.
Especially since Google changed alot of stuff with Android 11 and Android 12, it's a bit more complicated to root since the days of the original Pixel.
That doesn't mean that there can be no all-in-one root tool here, but as of now we have none and I don't see how one could be created in the foreseeable future.
*https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ck-twrp-factory-image-stock-recovery.3730227/

Morgrain said:
As far as I know, only the original Pixel 1 has an all-in-one tool* ("click button, wait, have fun - even though the P1 tool only came years after release!"), it has always been the culmination of a couple ADB steps/commands in a certain order, plus some manual flashing/magisk file creation incl. copying a couple files from your phone to your PC or vice versa.
Especially since Google changed alot of stuff with Android 11 and Android 12, it's a bit more complicated to root since the days of the original Pixel.
That doesn't mean that there can be no all-in-one root tool here, but as of now we have none and I don't see how one could be created in the foreseeable future.
*https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ck-twrp-factory-image-stock-recovery.3730227/
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For sure, that's actually the All in One tool that I remember using with my Oneplus 7 Pro. This is my first Pixel phone (does the Nexus 6P count?) so I wasn't sure if developers would be all over it, or if Google has made things more complicated over the past couple of years. Either way I appreciate the reply and will probably dive into unlocking/rooting over the holiday weekend.

CacheOnlyPlease said:
For sure, that's actually the All in One tool that I remember using with my Oneplus 7 Pro. This is my first Pixel phone (does the Nexus 6P count?) so I wasn't sure if developers would be all over it, or if Google has made things more complicated over the past couple of years. Either way I appreciate the reply and will probably dive into unlocking/rooting over the holiday weekend.
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If you want to read a bit about complication, take a search engine and find out what
Android 11 scoped storage
Android 12 Dm-verity (device-mapper-verity)*
Android 12 Vbmeta verification**
SafetyNet Android
Android Hardware Attestation
means.
*is a method by which an image on block devices (the underlying storage layer of the file system) can be checked to determine if it matches an expected configuration, using a cryptographic hash tree. If the hash doesn't match, dm-verity prevents the stored code from loading.
**is the other half of this - it provides a cryptographically signed reference hash which is used to verify the integrity of /boot, /system, and /vendor partitions. The vbmeta image is only used to verify /boot, while vbmeta-system is used to verify /system.
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Google has been actively working - for a couple of years now - at making the modding/rooting communities life harder. We have always found a workaround, some require work (spoofing device ID, forcing software attestation, et cetera) or don't work that well at all, but it's a constant struggle.
Every firmware update is a small struggle and you got to pray to the man above that your device will still boot up, even if you have those pesky magisk modules disabled.

Morgrain said:
Google has been actively working - for a couple of years now - at making the modding/rooting communities life harder. We have always found a workaround, some require work (spoofing device ID, forcing software attestation, et cetera) or don't work that well at all, but it's a constant struggle.
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I think Google's goal was to make our devices more secure, not making modding/rooting harder.

CacheOnlyPlease said:
I really hate asking this type of question as it makes me sound like a choosy beggar, but is there an all in one tool in the works for unlocking/rooting/flashing/etc? As I grow older, I desire rooting and tinkering, however I also value my free time a lot more lately (can't have both, right?).
Apologies if this is a silly question, however I thought I'd ask anyway! Thanks!
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Not sure if this fits the bill of what you're looking for
Android Flash Tool

Perhaps this
Android Dollhouse (Flashtool) | TESTERS REQUIRED
Android Dollhouse The Definitive Android Flashtool. This is the support thread for Pixel 6 Pro. If you have another device, please check the other threads: Pixel 2XL: Support Thread Pixel 6: Support Thread I'm releasing the first user-facing...
forum.xda-developers.com

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Not sure if this fits the bill of what you're looking for
Android Flash Tool
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Sort of. Like I mentioned, I haven't dove into the details yet of rooting my Pixel 6 Pro yet, however can this tool you linked get me out of a potentially sticky situation if I ever need to load the stock firmware (ROM) onto it? That's really my biggest concern is messing something up. If I have a tool handy to get me back to stock, even if it wipes the whole phone, then I'm much more likely to dive in, you know.

For an all-in-one tool... what's wrong with fastboot?

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Sort of. Like I mentioned, I haven't dove into the details yet of rooting my Pixel 6 Pro yet, however can this tool you linked get me out of a potentially sticky situation if I ever need to load the stock firmware (ROM) onto it? That's really my biggest concern is messing something up. If I have a tool handy to get me back to stock, even if it wipes the whole phone, then I'm much more likely to dive in, you know.
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If you haven't already looked them over, check the 6 PRO link in my sig, Step by step directions, pretty much each and every detail to make it easy for people like me who aren't rooting gurus.
Fastboot is the tool to pull you back from the abyss should you screw the pooch. Plenty of places you can find commands to help you out in a pinch, usually bringing you back to a factory fresh image.
Fastboot, update, and root a few times and it'll become much less concerning and tedious.