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Nexus 7 2013 with 4.4.2 (untouched)

Hi,
I purchased my wife a google nexus 7 last christmas and it has android 4.4.2 on it.
Wifi version only
It is 100% unmolested in anyway. She simply uses it for web surfing
I purchased her a new 10.1" tablet that will be here shortly so I will take the nexus 7 from her LOL.
To preface the rest of this post, my phone is a samsung galaxy s3, probably close to 2 years old, and am quite famaliar with rooting and installing custom roms, etc all with help of xda of course.
Once my wife gets her new tablet, I would like to root the nexus 7 and install a clean, simple, basic new rom that is de-oxed and rooted. I'm a pretty basic user and like to keep a clean minimal os, etc.
#1 The nexus 7 shows that there is a system update, I assume it's an os update but she never bothered to install it? Should I before doing anything else? Will this have an impact on rooting and installing newer roms?
#2 I assume the wug's toolkit is what I should to root, etc
#3 What is latest version that I can install that meet my needs for a basic, clean, rooted and de-oxed android version. I don't need anything fancy. Just quick and clean and maybe something that aids with battery life? I assume custom recovery is similar to the phones and that one can still use titanium free version to uninstall unwanted programs.
#4 Since I never used her tablet, is flash an issue these days with android and tablets?
I will use the nexus 7 for basic web surfacing and things of that nature. I would love to eventually install ubuntu touch as I only use linux on my home laptops but that is a convo for another day.
Any suggestions and comments are appreciated.
If there is something you need to ask to give me some suggestions, please do ask.
Thanks

1.- Yes, it's a system update. It's a Nexus so installing it won't have any effect on your ability to flash a custom ROM in the future.
2.- NO! Never, never, NEVER use toolkits to do anything, ESPECIALLY on a Nexus device. More problems are caused by toolkits than any other reason, and relying solely on toolkits will hinder your ability to fix anything should something go wrong, simply because you just won't know how to fix anything. Nexus devices are the absolute easiest devices to root, and are the perfect devices to use to familiarize yourself with ADB, fastboot, and just the basic ins and outs of that side of Android. You will want to use fastboot to unlock your bootloader, and install a custom recovery. From there, rooting is as simple as flashing SU, and you will likely be prompted to do so after flashing recovery. The whole process only takes a few minutes and will provide an invaluable learning experience. Read the stickies, that's where you will find the guide and the bulk of the information you'll need.
edit- this thread should get you started- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381698
3.-Read the OPs of all the ROM threads in development and flash whatever you think has the features you are looking for. The functionality of custom recoveries are near identical across devices, just make sure you flash one that is specific for your device. You will find the threads for recovery in the Dev section as well, possibly in original development. Yes, you can still use Titanium.
4.- No issues with flashing, as long as you flash the proper files for your device. Nexus devices are VERY difficult to brick, so don't be afraid to get your feet wet.
I hope this helps, and if you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask. Happy flashing!
Edit: and just an FYI, Ubuntu Touch is absolutely horrible and isn't even close to being a viable mobile OS. You can use MultiROM to install and dual boot it so you can try it out very easily but trust me, you won't like it one bit.

Thanks for the info, anything I need to be aware of before I start having fun once I take hold of the tablet. I get the small one she gets the larger one, hahahaha. Happy wife happy life.
I keeping reading about the boatloader needing to be a certain version before going to the newest os? No?
And I will stay away from touch, since I am a purely linux guy for anything computer or laptop thought it would be worth asking.
Also, what's the deal with odin and tablets. I use it all the time for my phone.

kero4 said:
Thanks for the info, anything I need to be aware of before I start having fun once I take hold of the tablet. I get the small one she gets the larger one, hahahaha. Happy wife happy life.
I keeping reading about the boatloader needing to be a certain version before going to the newest os? No?
And I will stay away from touch, since I am a purely linux guy for anything computer or laptop thought it would be worth asking.
Also, what's the deal with odin and tablets. I use it all the time for my phone.
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The only caveat I can think of is to make sure you unlock your bootloader BEFORE you set up your device, as the unlocking process wipes everything.
I'd much rather have to deal with a smaller screen than an unhappy wife, you're making the right decision . And actually, I personally prefer smaller tablets as they are easier to manage and are better for gaming. With the exception of my Surface Pro 3, all my tablets are smaller sized. I have the 2013 Nexus 7, the iPad Mini Retina, and a Dell Venue 8 Pro which is an awesome 8" x86 Windows tablet that runs full Windows, not the dumb RT version.
I'm not the right guy to ask about the bootloader. I don't like Lollipop so all my Android devices are staying on KitKat. I haven't flashed any ROMs on the N7 in ages so I haven't done any research on bootloader compatibility. If you have a link to where you read about it, post it and I'll look into it for you.
Trust me, Ubuntu Touch is not worth your time. I flashed it on both my N5 and N7 just to mess around with it and promptly deleted it. It isn't worth the space it takes up on your device. It's that bad. But if you want to see for yourself, just install MultiROM, it has a built-in option to install Ubuntu Touch as a secondary ROM. You should install MultiROM anyway, as it gives you a painless method for trying out new ROMs without losing your current daily driver setup.
Odin is specifically for Samsung devices so it doesn't apply here. Familiarize yourself with ADB and fastboot, as that's how you'll be doing a lot of your mods.

When you say wipes the device, do you mean installed apps and date but nothing OS related right.
Since I don't do anything major with it (once I get it) and my wife didn't either I don't think wiping is an issue.

kero4 said:
When you say wipes the device, do you mean installed apps and date but nothing OS related right.
Since I don't do anything major with it (once I get it) and my wife didn't either I don't think wiping is an issue.
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It just wipes all your user data, the OS is still there. It's basically a factory reset.

I would like a more private and secure OS for my phone. But I'm a little lost.

Hello there,
I would like a more secure and private OS on my phone. Copperhead OS is interesting but I don't have the money to buy a device from them nor the know how to use the source. So my question, what is a good alternative. It seems like there are a lot of options here on XDA. It's my first time here and I'm not the most technical when it comes to software. I was able to switch all my home computing to linux/tails but working with my phone seems much harder. Any advice would be a huge help at this point.
What I think I know:
-I need to unlock my phone, and I have a Verizon Pixel XL. I found this article, (turns out new people can't post links but it is the page with the depixel8 tool), that I think will help me to unlock. Step one of this article mentions fastboot and adb which I think I get from Android SDK. So I'm pretty sure I first download the SDK (gonna find a guide to be safe) and then I do these steps through the terminal.
-Back up everything! I've removed all my pictures, I don't have a ton of contacts but I saved those else where too. Everything at this point can be lost, so when we say "back up everything" is there something I am missing? In my Desktop experience this also meant back up my old windows install, is this the case here? If so how do I do that?
-When the phone is unlocked, I then load a ROM on to it and select it in bootloader?
In summation, very lost, slightly confused, willing to learn! I'm just looking for an OS where I can use open source software, including the OS. Call me paranoid (fixes tin foil hat) but I'd rather try to keep my life private if even a little. Thank you for any help you can provide me in taking my first steps into something new.

If you are already on latest Verizon there is no way to unlock.
So no way to flash any custom roms.
But if security is what you want an unlock bootloader is just the other way. Less security.

Darn, I am on the latest version. I'm not able to unlock using the depixel8 tool? If that's the case I may just pick up a nexus and try to use Copperhead.

Lost And Confused said:
Darn, I am on the latest version. I'm not able to unlock using the depixel8 tool? If that's the case I may just pick up a nexus and try to use Copperhead.
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If you're past 7.1 then sadly depixel8 won't work

Guess that's a done deal then. Instead of making a new thread I guess I'll just ask here. The way I understand it, Android is open source, but that doesn't mean the OS on my phone is open source. Seeing that the community here works with Android so much, are there any major privacy concerns running the latest version. As an example, Windows, especially Windows 10 is a privacy nightmare. I can't imagine Android is that bad, but what can you tell me?

Debating on rooting my Pixel 2XL, looking for seasoned android user's advice.

Hi all,
I am possibly interested in rooting my device. I have been rooting/rom'ing since back on my HTC Hero forever ago. Made a brief trip to iOS, and got into jailbreaking, but always missed the Android atmosphere. I am having issues with the battery on my device, and have debated factory resetting the device, and came across the forums about rooting.
I would just run a stock rom, with root, to be able to use Gravity box and Xposed. I am not super familiar with terminal/command line, so that part worries me a bit.
Anyone that is rooted, how does your device's battery last? Any major issues you notice? I use my camera for pictures of my family everyday, and don't want to risk anything that could compromise this feature.
Thanks in advance

Rooting doesn't hinder or damage or affect your battery directly
If you have enough reasons to root just root
I have plenty reasons to root that's why i did
Cheers ?
Sent from my Google Pixel 2 XL using XDA Labs

I've had lots of Android phones and tablets over the years, and every one was rooted at some point. Imo, rooting is not as critical as it used to be. Back in the early days of Android, rooting was the only way to get certain features that were later incorporated into Android. As Android matured, rooting became less important unless you needed a specific function or app. Rooting is still required for stuff like Titanium Backup, AdAway, Viper4Android, etc, because those need access to system-level files, which is impossible without root permissions.
Ask yourself what do you plan to do with root access? If you have a specific need for root, then go for it. Obviously you are not new to the game, and the procedure for rooting Pixel 2 is brain-dead simple compared to what you did for HTC Hero. However, if you don't have a specific need or plan, then it is not worth messing with imo. The Pixel 2 is an absolute beast out of the box. Root tweaks won't get you significantly better performance. I am rooted and use Sysconfig patcher (a Magisk module) to allow doze for Google Play Services for a very small gain in battery life. But I wouldn't root just for that. Monthly updates are a little more hassle if you are rooted, but if you get that far then you should be able to flash updates too.

AwkwardUberHero said:
Hi all,
I am possibly interested in rooting my device. I have been rooting/rom'ing since back on my HTC Hero forever ago. Made a brief trip to iOS, and got into jailbreaking, but always missed the Android atmosphere. I am having issues with the battery on my device, and have debated factory resetting the device, and came across the forums about rooting.
I would just run a stock rom, with root, to be able to use Gravity box and Xposed. I am not super familiar with terminal/command line, so that part worries me a bit.
Anyone that is rooted, how does your device's battery last? Any major issues you notice? I use my camera for pictures of my family everyday, and don't want to risk anything that could compromise this feature.
Thanks in advance
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I too am a stock rom + root user. My battery life is outstanding for my usage patterns, usually 8-12 hours of SOT. As far as rooting, only you can answer that. Personally, I love it!! I like using dark themes, AdAway, TiBu, and the ability to use custom kernel tweaks. Having said all that, I haven't noticed any decrease in performance with day to day usage that you would likely use. So, if you ask me....root that sucker! ????

Badger50 said:
I too am a stock rom + root user. My battery life is outstanding for my usage patterns, usually 8-12 hours of SOT. As far as rooting, only you can answer that. Personally, I love it!! I like using dark themes, AdAway, TiBu, and the ability to use custom kernel tweaks. Having said all that, I haven't noticed any decrease in performance with day to day usage that you would likely use. So, if you ask me....root that sucker!
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Seeing your input on this, Badger, makes me want to do it. Granted, not having rooted in over four years or so, I feel like I am missing a wealth of knowledge on this subject. I may give it a shot later today and see what happens. The only thing that worries me is installing the updates that come out each month. Do you do those monthly?

AwkwardUberHero said:
Seeing your input on this, Badger, makes me want to do it. Granted, not having rooted in over four years or so, I feel like I am missing a wealth of knowledge on this subject. I may give it a shot later today and see what happens. The only thing that worries me is installing the updates that come out each month. Do you do those monthly?
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Oh I absolutely do the monthly updates using fastboot to install the factory images. It's actually very easy once you get the hang of it. You can look over my personal guide if you'd like so you have an idea of what to do :good:

Here's some more info for you to read as well :good:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/guide-unlock-flash-root-pixel-2-xl-t3702418

Badger50 said:
Oh I absolutely do the monthly updates using fastboot to install the factory images. It's actually very easy once you get the hang of it. You can look over my personal guide if you'd like so you have an idea of what to do :good:
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Do you really need to remove the lock screen password? I flashed the OTA (using this method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/how-to-applying-monthly-security-t3750234), and I had no issue entering the PIN from within TWRP (twrp-3.2.1-2).

And don't forget that rooting is a XDA rush!

uofirob said:
Do you really need to remove the lock screen password? I flashed the OTA (using this method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/how-to-applying-monthly-security-t3750234), and I had no issue entering the PIN from within TWRP (twrp-3.2.1-2).
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Just my personal preference really. I just don't take chances with twrp if I don't have to :good:

sublimaze said:
rooting Pixel 2 is brain-dead simple compared to what you did for HTC Hero.
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I never rooted my Hero but did completely unlock my HTC 4G LTE(S-off???). Dear lord was that a nightmare. I think back then it actually required a tool(Dirty Racoon???), only certain ROM's would boot on certain bootloaders, etc. I don't miss those days lol.

AndrasLOHF said:
I never rooted my Hero but did completely unlock my HTC 4G LTE(S-off???). Dear lord was that a nightmare. I think back then it actually required a tool(Dirty Racoon???). I don't miss those days.
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I did root the HTC Hermes (win5) which was a trip!

AwkwardUberHero said:
Seeing your input on this, Badger, makes me want to do it. Granted, not having rooted in over four years or so, I feel like I am missing a wealth of knowledge on this subject. I may give it a shot later today and see what happens. The only thing that worries me is installing the updates that come out each month. Do you do those monthly?
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While the 2 XL is a great phone even without root, I think there is just too much fun, experimenting, and customization to miss if not rooted. But this is a personal choice and you have to decide if you really want a specific battery icon, or any other custom feature.
You been given links to some steps and guides which are very good references. Since you said it's been four years since you rooted, I'm throwing in my guide as well
I am not a technical kinda guy, and sometimes the little details are what trip me up, so I crafted this initially for myself needing to be reminded of each step.
It is very detailed, step by step with tips and links and everything needed in one place. It certainly isn't the final authority for sure, but I've used it dozen and dozens of times with no issues. You can always default to the guide or other references if something isn't clear.
Take the plunge, I think you'll be very glad you did. In my opinion, root makes a great device an excellent device

@Az Biker @Badger50 I will be trying this on a Mac. Anyone happen to have steps for a Mac?
Thanks again for everything!

Mac instructions are in the op of the thread badger posted#7

galaxys said:
Mac instructions are in the op of the thread badger posted#7
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Thanks! Totally overlooked that.

Badger50 said:
Oh I absolutely do the monthly updates using fastboot to install the factory images. It's actually very easy once you get the hang of it. You can look over my personal guide if you'd like so you have an idea of what to do :good:
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Hey badger, thanks for these steps. Debating on trying this tomorrow. Do you have the actual rooting directions as well for a Mac? Tried looking in YouTube but could only find windows.
Thanks again in advance.

AwkwardUberHero said:
Hey badger, thanks for these steps. Debating on trying this tomorrow. Do you have the actual rooting directions as well for a Mac? Tried looking in YouTube but could only find windows.
Thanks again in advance.
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First you'll need to enable developer options by tapping on the build number 7 times in settings/system/about phone. Then enable OEM unlocking and USB debugging. You'll need adb/sdk installed on your Mac, then you'll need to unlock your bootloader with the follow fastboot commands..
fastboot flashing unlock....
And
fastboot flashing unlock_critical...
You have to have magisk 16.3 and the twrp installer zip in your internal storage.
Then you'll need to fastboot the twrp.img with the Mac specific prefix command (which I don't know), but the command is...fastboot boot twrpxxxx.img
That'll boot you into twrp, then hit install, and navigate to where your twrp installer and magisk zips are. Flash twrp, followed by magisk, reboot, and you should be rooted.

Badger50 said:
First you'll need to enable developer options by tapping on the build number 7 times in settings/system/about phone. Then enable OEM unlocking and USB debugging. You'll need adb/sdk installed on your Mac, then you'll need to unlock your bootloader with the follow fastboot commands..
fastboot flashing unlock....
And
fastboot flashing unlock_critical...
You have to have magisk 16.3 and the twrp installer zip in your internal storage.
Then you'll need to fastboot the twrp.img with the Mac specific prefix command (which I don't know), but the command is...fastboot boot twrpxxxx.img
That'll boot you into twrp, then hit install, and navigate to where your twrp installer and magisk zips are. Flash twrp, followed by magisk, reboot, and you should be rooted.
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Awesome. Thank you. I was messing with adb a bit today, enabling immersive mode and what not. I think that I can follow these steps.

Urgent!!!!!!!! Help me!!!!!!, Earasing phone software, urgent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

urgent!!!!!
I have xiaomi mi mix 2s and I made the worst mistake of all times (for me)
I needed to buy a phone and I didn't wanted xiaomi at all!!, But my mother told me "take it it's great my has it and she's loving it" and my father "its the only device you can afford, I don't allow you to spend more then that" so i bought the phone hoping that the phone doesn't comes with clear Android p system (there's nowhere on the internet that says if it comes with Android or MIUI)
I got the phone and it came with miui, I thought I can handle it, but couldn't, I though I could do something to change it somehow, I couldn't,
But it's is driving me nuts!!!!!!!
I hate xiaomi ( maybe even more then apple and to hate a company even more than apple it's impossible (until now)
Don't get me wrong, the hardware is pretty good but the software is awful
After a long introduction here's my question,
How can I earase, delete, conceal, the miui software and any memory, trace of xioami on the phone
Delete eve-ry-thing!!!!!!!!! And install fresh pure Android p system
Is it possible?
Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , (I'm serious, it's really important to me!!!)

Ttigerbbb said:
urgent!!!!!
I have xiaomi mi mix 2s and I made the worst mistake of all times (for me)
I needed to buy a phone and I didn't wanted xiaomi at all!!, But my mother told me "take it it's great my has it and she's loving it" and my father "its the only device you can afford, I don't allow you to spend more then that" so i bought the phone hoping that the phone doesn't comes with clear Android p system (there's nowhere on the internet that says if it comes with Android or MIUI)
I got the phone and it came with miui, I thought I can handle it, but couldn't, I though I could do something to change it somehow, I couldn't,
But it's is driving me nuts!!!!!!!
I hate xiaomi ( maybe even more then apple and to hate a company even more than apple it's impossible (until now)
Don't get me wrong, the hardware is pretty good but the software is awful
After a long introduction here's my question,
How can I earase, delete, conceal, the miui software and any memory, trace of xioami on the phone
Delete eve-ry-thing!!!!!!!!! And install fresh pure Android p system
Is it possible?
Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , I may kill my self if its going to be like that (I'm serious, it's that important to me!!!)
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Seriously, your post is ridiculous, no one is going to spoon feed you with step by steps. Especially, when they have been posted already a million times over. Did you even make an effort? There are 9 Pies roms available!
Everything you need is here, go back and read the agreement that you agreed to when you joined XDA. Then locate the search box, then use it to find your answers for unlocking the bootloader, flash Twrp, your Rom of Choice, Gapps, and Magisk root.
Next, Miui is actually, awesome once fully setup. You can disable the things that you don't like. The first time I tried Miui I absolutely hated it too. However, once I learned how to use Miui, it is one of my favorites.
Go try something else, but come back later and give Miui a try, many people ended up loving it. Finally, as a parent with teenagers. I fully agree with your parents, you should thank them. This phone is one of the best phones that comes wit Miui but will also give you whatever you want with it comes to the SDK : Pie, Oreo, Nougat each version of OS with plenty of Roms to choose from.

Ttigerbbb said:
How can I earase, delete, conceal, the miui software and any memory, trace of xioami on the phone
Delete eve-ry-thing!!!!!!!!! And install fresh pure Android p system
Is it possible?
Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , I may kill my self if its going to be like that (I'm serious, it's that important to me!!!)
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-2/how-to/one-xiaomi-mi-mix-2-chiron-unlock-t3785004

Ttigerbbb said:
urgent!!!!!
I have xiaomi mi mix 2s and I made the worst mistake of all times (for me)
I needed to buy a phone and I didn't wanted xiaomi at all!!, But my mother told me "take it it's great my has it and she's loving it" and my father "its the only device you can afford, I don't allow you to spend more then that" so i bought the phone hoping that the phone doesn't comes with clear Android p system (there's nowhere on the internet that says if it comes with Android or MIUI)
I got the phone and it came with miui, I thought I can handle it, but couldn't, I though I could do something to change it somehow, I couldn't,
But it's is driving me nuts!!!!!!!
I hate xiaomi ( maybe even more then apple and to hate a company even more than apple it's impossible (until now)
Don't get me wrong, the hardware is pretty good but the software is awful
After a long introduction here's my question,
How can I earase, delete, conceal, the miui software and any memory, trace of xioami on the phone
Delete eve-ry-thing!!!!!!!!! And install fresh pure Android p system
Is it possible?
Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , I may kill my self if its going to be like that (I'm serious, it's that important to me!!!)
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Lol ? ty for that moment m8

Thank you
tsongming said:
Seriously, your post is ridiculous, no one is going to spoon feed you with step by steps. Especially, when they have been posted already a million times over. Did you even make an effort? There are 9 Pies roms available!
Everything you need is here, go back and read the agreement that you agreed to when you joined XDA. Then locate the search box, then use it to find your answers for unlocking the bootloader, flash Twrp, your Rom of Choice, Gapps, and Magisk root.
Next, Miui is actually, awesome once fully setup. You can disable the things that you don't like. The first time I tried Miui I absolutely hated it too. However, once I learned how to use Miui, it is one of my favorites.
Go try something else, but come back later and give Miui a try, many people ended up loving it. Finally, as a parent with teenagers. I fully agree with your parents, you should thank them. This phone is one of the best phones that comes wit Miui but will also give you whatever you want with it comes to the SDK : Pie, Oreo, Nougat each version of OS with plenty of Roms to choose from.
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Thanks, but I tried the miui on the phone for 2 months now, and sometimes it's fine but a lot of the times it's really not. I tried to unlock, rom, twrp.... , But my mother said that I can't do it cause I might ruin it so I need to give it to a pro, my cousin is a pro in this kind of thing, but to give it to him I need to see him and that is a whole new thing
Another question, me roming, twrp-ing.......? Is it erasing the miui? Or just installing a new software on the "old" software?

Ttigerbbb said:
Thanks, but I tried the miui on the phone for 2 months now, and sometimes it's fine but a lot of the times it's really not. I tried to unlock, rom, twrp.... , But my mother said that I can't do it cause I might ruin it so I need to give it to a pro, my cousin is a pro in this kind of thing, but to give it to him I need to see him and that is a whole new thing
Another question, me roming, twrp-ing.......? Is it erasing the miui? Or just installing a new software on the "old" software?
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Your base partitions remain. But yes, Miui will definitely be erased. However, it can be restored. It's very important that you or your cousin does the research before starting otherwise you can brick your phone.
Be careful to make sure that you properly unlock the bootloader. I would strongly suggest using Miflash or the all in one tool. Especially if you are new to this type of thing.
I just bought this phone and will have it in my hands by Monday. If you look at my history you will find that I write a lot of tutorials with step by step instructions.
Be patient and wait a week, This week I will join the Mi8 community and start making contrubutions. Likely by writing a very extensive step by step how to guide...if it's needed, or if I can improve upon what currently exists.
It is important that you establish a Mi account (if you do not have one already).
The first step will be unlocking the bootloader, then flashing the most recent version of TWRP. Then you will create a Nandroid recovery. This way you can restore your current instaltion if/when wanted .
Next you will wipe system, and user data, as well as the caches. At this point you can then flash your rom, gapps, and magisk root.
You can assure your mother that if setup correctly the phone will be secure, and you can keep the installation updated as new rom releases become available, these updates will typically include the up to date monthly security certificate,
Once you have everything installed you can then resync your user data through your Google account setup. Go ahead and ensure that everything is syncing to Google as well as the mi cloud.
Look for my future threads, Good luck, be careful.
Edit, after briefly reviewing some of the current tutorials. I will definitely dramatically improve upon existing instructions with threads that are specific to the Mi 8. and Mi Mix 2 and 3
So people will not have to rely on threads with out of date instruction. In example, there is no need to disable driver signing on your desktop.
See you soon

Ttigerbbb said:
Thanks, but I tried the miui on the phone for 2 months now, and sometimes it's fine but a lot of the times it's really not. I tried to unlock, rom, twrp.... , But my mother said that I can't do it cause I might ruin it so I need to give it to a pro, my cousin is a pro in this kind of thing, but to give it to him I need to see him and that is a whole new thing
Another question, me roming, twrp-ing.......? Is it erasing the miui? Or just installing a new software on the "old" software?
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ROM'ing is essentially removing MIUI software from your phone and installing a different ROM.
And to do it, all the info is in the link I gave you earlier. Have a read. Even the newbies will do fine if they read that guide. Or if your cousin is going to do it, still he/she has to read all that stuff and be 100% sure about it.
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tsongming said:
I just bought this phone and will have it in my hands by Monday. If you look at my history you will find that I write a lot of tutorials with step by step instructions.
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I love your patience over at Le Pro 3 forums man, I'm the guy who ended up in an irreversible brick of Le Pro 3 and moved on. I'd love to have you here, welcome to Mix 2 Train!
By the looks of the OP, I think the person is in his/her teen years and new this whole custom rom scene. We gotta dumb our talks down to his/her level.

Has anyone successfully rooted the device?

Hi!.
Is bootloader unlocking and rooting a thing on this device?
I'm really curious if anyone has done it and how difficult it was

tbh you can unlock nubia device easy but the problem is no twrp and rom dev are into it..unless you search chinese forum for that..this nubia phone never ever in my life i buy ...and worst scenario no software updates only security patch thats it..i have red magic 3s global version and software is so crap and bugs..i have to flash cn rom

walkwitmeinhel said:
tbh you can unlock nubia device easy but the problem is no twrp and rom dev are into it..unless you search chinese forum for that..this nubia phone never ever in my life i buy ...and worst scenario no software updates only security patch thats it..i have red magic 3s global version and software is so crap and bugs..i have to flash cn rom
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Well that's unfortunate because the 5S looks seriously polished since then. They've come a ways and this is the first time I've legitimately been considering Red Magic. It would be a shame if this phone didn't see any development.

Causical said:
Well that's unfortunate because the 5S looks seriously polished since then. They've come a ways and this is the first time I've legitimately been considering Red Magic. It would be a shame if this phone didn't see any development.
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the RM5G (nx659j) and the 5S (nx659j) both have the same hardware ID
the S comes with faster internal memory speed, ram, and an extra layer of Silver on the cooler.
otherwise basically the same device.
the 5G forums already have an excellent modded Kernel, and Have AOSP and LOS developers working on roms. once the 5S has a working TWRP it shouldn't be hard to use the 5G roms already in development.
also from personal experience, the 5S stock rom is quite solid. I've had my 5S for a few days now and tested a fair bit, so far so good. I've not experienced any of the bugs being mentioned on the 5G page. alot of the bugs that have been reported by the 5G users have been fixed on the 5S
If Nubia release all their sources for the phone, both kernel and drivers, it will be easy to port many roms to this device. with a few devs already on board doing work with the 5G I see the 5S doing well.

Patrick Morgan said:
the RM5G (nx659j) and the 5S (nx659j) both have the same hardware ID
the S comes with faster internal memory speed, ram, and an extra layer of Silver on the cooler.
otherwise basically the same device.
the 5G forums already have an excellent modded Kernel, and Have AOSP and LOS developers working on roms. once the 5S has a working TWRP it shouldn't be hard to use the 5G roms already in development.
also from personal experience, the 5S stock rom is quite solid. I've had my 5S for a few days now and tested a fair bit, so far so good. I've not experienced any of the bugs being mentioned on the 5G page. alot of the bugs that have been reported by the 5G users have been fixed on the 5S
If Nubia release all their sources for the phone, both kernel and drivers, it will be easy to port many roms to this device. with a few devs already on board doing work with the 5G I see the 5S doing well.
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Has Nubia ever released both kernel and driver sources on previous phones before?
Edit: Guess I answered my own question, the z17 had a crap ton of development.

Thanks for all the insights guys!
I'll wait and see how it plays out first, I jumped the gun before and went with huawei thinking project treble and all would mean much easier and faster development but you can see how that played out....
It's 700$ too much to buy a device that's potentially without source code or development - or even worse another huawei x.x

Causical said:
Has Nubia ever released both kernel and driver sources on previous phones before?
Edit: Guess I answered my own question, the z17 had a crap ton of development.
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Rstment ^m^ said:
Thanks for all the insights guys!
I'll wait and see how it plays out first, I jumped the gun before and went with huawei thinking project treble and all would mean much easier and faster development but you can see how that played out....
It's 700$ too much to buy a device that's potentially without source code or development - or even worse another huawei x.x
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From what I understand, Mattofthedead, the developer for the 5G OC kernel helped with a crowd fund to get a lineage developer to help with getting lineage on the phone. they're soon to release the first version.
Once a working lineage rom is made and released it will be the base for literally every AOSP rom. meaning this phone is going to get alot of support.

Patrick Morgan said:
From what I understand, Mattofthedead, the developer for the 5G OC kernel helped with a crowd fund to get a lineage developer to help with getting lineage on the phone. they're soon to release the first version.
Once a working lineage rom is made and released it will be the base for literally every AOSP rom. meaning this phone is going to get alot of support.
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Honestly that would be great, I've been watching phones for a long time and truthfully if the OP 8T doesn't beat this phone out in a fair amount of ways then this phone is surely one of the absolute best ones you can get in the year of the SD 865... Definitely worth consideration for an upgrade. However you're also having to look at the fact that A LOT of upper tier specs and performance features are now leaking down to a ton of mid rangers, for example high refresh rate, large battery capacity, bezeless displays, better camera implementations, 5G accessibility... So to me that just signifies that maybe it might also be worth waiting for the SD 875 series??? I mean technology usually only gets more expensive right, but seems to me they're going to have less and less to offer as exclusively flagship and people just aren't going to dish out $1,000 every time they want a phone upgrade.

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Honestly that would be great, I've been watching phones for a long time and truthfully if the OP 8T doesn't beat this phone out in a fair amount of ways then this phone is surely one of the absolute best ones you can get in the year of the SD 865... Definitely worth consideration for an upgrade. However you're also having to look at the fact that A LOT of upper tier specs and performance features are now leaking down to a ton of mid rangers, for example high refresh rate, large battery capacity, bezeless displays, better camera implementations, 5G accessibility... So to me that just signifies that maybe it might also be worth waiting for the SD 875 series??? I mean technology usually only gets more expensive right, but seems to me they're going to have less and less to offer as exclusively flagship and people just aren't going to dish out $1,000 every time they want a phone upgrade.
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Waiting is totally up to you. I got one because my last phone was 6 years old.
a speed test done comparing stock OP8 and the RM5G with Matts Kernel, the RM5G smoked the OP8. antutu and other benchmarks.,
considering the 5S is a slight update to that hardware with better internals only means we'll get a slightly better speed than his 5G.
I picked this up mainly because it was the price of upper midrange phones now, but with specs of top tier flagships. (its basically a s20 ultra 5g without the camera) for less than half the price.
the 5S ROM version really did a great job fixing the errors reported by the 5G community, face unlock, UI bugs, Finger print senor all working quite well on the 5S. the gaming aspect of the phone too is really good, with modable trigger buttons, there is a option in the game mode of the phone to map the shoulder buttons to anything on the screen. so you dont have to tap over something that may block your view. to you can tap something that is hard to reach depending on the option (or for example move while aiming and shooting at the same time in FPS). its a fantastic feature.
I'm really happy with this phone and the next update (form looking at the speed increase of the current CN rom) its going to be a monster of a phone.

I used the old method and worked

do you mind sharing which method you used to root your 5S? I've seen a couple 5S users here as well who was able to root their 5S and I'm really interested to root my 5S too
I'm on global rom v. 8.07, I would really appreciate if you can give me some direction or at least point me to the right direction

yhe2x said:
do you mind sharing which method you used to root your 5S? I've seen a couple 5S users here as well who was able to root their 5S and I'm really interested to root my 5S too
I'm on global rom v. 8.07, I would really appreciate if you can give me some direction or at least point me to the right direction
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i could tell you what i did to root my device, most likely differs from everyone else's ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the only thing i can surely tell you never ever fully unlock bootloader or you will have a nightmare with the fingerprint scanner calibration... like i am having
this is the code you should avoid to prevent the break of your fingerprint scanner fastboot flashing unlock
disclaimer - I'm NOT responsible for anything that happens to your device, proceed with caution
PRE-REQUISITES
backup all your data, the steps below will erase your data
Link #1 - Applications, .img files (https://mega.nz/file/igphSCTD#OybJo9...dhk3JFB4_5xkVc)
source: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nu...beginner-tutorial-unlock-bootloader-t4131585/
Link #2 - Unbrick Tool for Nubia Red Magic 5S (https://mega.nz/file/rEc2kIDC#FExxIiuqTcMPpn0Ji_pAtVqH4CBiSWvJPUkDYjR-4cc)
source: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nu.../unbrick-tool-nubia-red-magic-5smade-t4166861
ENSURE THAT:
- You installed the application and driver (Minimal ADB and Fastboot, USB drivers and Qualcomm)
- Minimal ADB and Fastboot can be found on link #1
- USB drivers and Qualcomm can be found on MiFlash2020-3-14-0\Source\ThirdParty\ folder location Link #2 after is extracted
- You updated your OS in the latest version.
- You UNLOCK the developer option (setting>>about phone>>tap 7x the build number) and you switch ON the OEM unlocking & USB Debugging.
- You approved the RSA request in your red Magic 5s
Red magic 5s how to unlock bootloader
Connect the phone to computer, open cmd and go to where you have Minimal ADB and Fastboot then do the following steps
Code:
adb devices #make sure you see a device ex: 0123456789ABCDEF device
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot devices #make sure you see a device ex: 2e45f69f fastboot
a- if you do not see a device you will need to go into device manager and install the usb drivers
fastboot oem nubia_unlock NUBIA_NX659J
PREP YOUR FILES:
once you downloads and extract Link #2 you will have 2 folders (images and MiFlash2020-3-14-0) make a folder called images1 and all the files that are found on images copy them to images1
by the end of these step you will have 3 folders (images, images1, MiFlash2020-3-14-0), images and images1 are exact copies of each other
from what you extract from Link #1
- you will find Magisk-v20.4.zip copy and paste it inside your adb folder
- you will find recovery-TWRP-3.4.1B-0324-NUBIA_REDMAGIC_5G-CN-wzsx150.img and vbmeta_BL_skip.img, copy and paste them to the location where you have (image, image1 and MiFlash2020-3-14-0)
rename recovery-TWRP-3.4.1B-0324-NUBIA_REDMAGIC_5G-CN-wzsx150.img to recovery.img
rename vbmeta_BL_skip.img to vbmeta.img
move the recently renamed recovery.img and vbmeta.img into images1 and replace the files.
HOW TO GET TWRP AND ROOT:
open the folder MiFlash2020-3-14-0 and then the application called XiaoMiFlash.exe in admin #ignore message "couldn't find flash script"
where it says select this is where you going to look for the image1 folder which contains the modded TWRP files #ignore message "couldn't find flash script " again
on you mobile device you should be on the bootloader, select the option Boot to edload #the screen will be black on the phone
back to the computer on the application XiaoMiFlash.exe, click refresh and you will see you device connected #if you don't see it make sure you have installed the Qualcomm drivers
click on flash and allow the system to process until you see a flash done！sucess! #the beauty of these step is that you also learn how to unbrick your device, you just will need to select image folder instead of image1
disconnect the mobile from the computer and on the mobile press the power button and hold it until you see a green notification light come up then let go the power button.
once the mobile boots up You UNLOCK the developer option (setting>>about phone>>tap 7x the build number) and you switch ON the OEM unlocking & USB Debugging.
open your cmd window and type:
Code:
adb devices
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot devices
fastboot oem nubia_unlock NUBIA_NX659J
select option to reboot into recovery mode
since it is the first time you are running TWRP
It will reboot in TWRP twice, in the 2nd reboot it will stay in TWRP, change the language to English and select the keep read only.
Go to Wipe -> Format Data - type yes and click the check -> once that is done, click the back button until you are back into the main page
go into Advance -> ADB Sideload -> check Wipe Dalvik Cache and Wipe Cache -> then type
adb sideload Magisk-v20.4.zip #watch the magic happen, once done reboot System
you are done

A big thank you to you sir, with all these steps I would really need to spend some time and carefully follow each step so I would end up with a shiny new brick lol.
I have another question and forgive me for being such a noob, do you need to unlock the bootloader first before you can obtain root? and will I be able to use apps like Kingroot after I unlock the bootloader?
Once again, your help is greatly appreciated.

yhe2x said:
A big thank you to you sir, with all these steps I would really need to spend some time and carefully follow each step so I would end up with a shiny new brick lol. .
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yeah, i jump to it after reading and reading and i still ended up with my device 4-5 hrs down as some stuff i followed didnt worked and i didnt know how to use XiaoMiFlash.exe
yhe2x said:
I have another question and forgive me for being such a noob, do you need to unlock the bootloader first before you can obtain root? and will I be able to use apps like Kingroot after I unlock the bootloader?.
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ never used kingroot, you could try it out - the above gives you the steps to revert back as well to factory settings by using the image folder
the above will leave you with permanent TWRP, which leads to this issue - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82272969&postcount=6 - from my perspective is a minimal thing

TopoX84 said:
i could tell you what i did to root my device, most likely differs from everyone else's ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the only thing i can surely tell you never ever fully unlock bootloader or you will have a nightmare with the fingerprint scanner calibration... like i am having
this is the code you should avoid to prevent the break of your fingerprint scanner fastboot flashing unlock
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this is all very complicated and unnecessary for the 5S
Making sure you have the correct drivers installed for fastboot. and the steps are quite direct. you do need to wipe everything so backing up your internal data is reccommended. these steps do not unlock your bootloader.
I posted a short tutorial here with a zip with all needed files.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nubia-red-magic-5s/how-to/official-5s-roms-t4164861

Patrick Morgan said:
this is all very complicated and unnecessary for the 5S
Making sure you have the correct drivers installed for fastboot. and the steps are quite direct. you do need to wipe everything so backing up your internal data is reccommended. these steps do not unlock your bootloader.
I posted a short tutorial here with a zip with all needed files.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nubia-red-magic-5s/how-to/official-5s-roms-t4164861
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hehe thats why i said it worked for me and might differ from people out there.
thanks for the link above

Rstment ^m^ said:
Hi!.
Is bootloader unlocking and rooting a thing on this device?
I'm really curious if anyone has done it and how difficult it was
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It's really hard in this device by the way we will get any custom rom in future ??

Hahahaha fk me . I'm posting in the wrong thread.