Since the Dirty Pipe exploit makes it possible to gain root even on Android, would it be possible to gain permanent root access without tripping Knox using it?
Here's some info about the exploit if you're interested https://dirtypipe.cm4all.com/
It's unlikely. First, you have to have an affected kernel, and I doubt you'll find those on any S20s. Second, while root through the exploit is theoretically possible if the device uses an affected kernel version (and re-exploit possible on every boot as long as the device is not patched), it is unlikely this would enable traditional, useful root access without tripping Knox. There other security techniques in use, such as secure boot, that cannot be thwarted simply because you have attained a root shell.
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I want to root the tablet, but I was told Knox would be tripped if I do. How would having knox tripped affect me with Roms and my general use with the tablet? is there a way to root without tripping knox?
royredman said:
I want to root the tablet, but I was told Knox would be tripped if I do. How would having knox tripped affect me with Roms and my general use with the tablet? is there a way to root without tripping knox?
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Yes it's worth it. You will find it useful as you use your tablet after rooting. Tripping knox will not affect the software and general use. Unfortunately, there's no way that you can root without tripping knox for now. In some countries, a tripped knox bootloader can void warranty. So be sure to contact your local Samsung customer service for enquiries.
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I have not found rooting worth it since before JB.
If you like messing around with alternative OSs it would be. Otherwise I can't find anything I want to do bad enough to potentially void the warranty on a 400 dollar or more device.
For me it's worth it. Gives you the possibility to debloat the standard rom and make the use of Titanium backup possible.
Yes so you can delete/freeze all the crap that Samsung put on their products.
i was really hoping that a simply tool root method would come but who knows now. with the T800 if you root can you still get OTA updates. i undrestand the freezing etc.. problem but what i mean is can you either unfreeze everything or do an ODIN with recovery files or whatever and still get OTA to work?
i ask becuase we have very low dev support (not dissing current peeps because much appreciated) but i would like to not have to wait for devs to get OTA updates. i just want to freeze a few things and install Xposed.
royredman said:
I want to root the tablet, but I was told Knox would be tripped if I do. How would having knox tripped affect me with Roms and my general use with the tablet? is there a way to root without tripping knox?
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It's totally worth it, even if you trip Knox in the process. I don't think I could enjoy my tablet anymore if I had to unroot it for some reason. Greenify is a godsend since the S can be somewhat lacking in battery life, and foldermount let's you actually have games on it without decimating your 11gb of storage space by allowing you to transfer them over to an external micro SD card. Those are just the tip of the iceberg too. Wanam Xposed is also a must have. Tl;dr it's totally worth it. Not just worth it, imperative.
I did Root and tripped konx'a. Guarantee "went to love ', but I hope that the tablet will not break down.
It's definitely worth it. I have adjusted the Max volume of my device to my liking. You cant do that unrooted. Getting rid of bloatwares and using Xposed tweaks are the other things you can do when you are rooted. Plus, i've enable the softkeys and disabled the capacitative keys to be able to hold the tab better in landscape without accidentally hitting the back button. This is very useful when watching a movie. So, it is DEFINITELY worth it.
Warranty only covers factory defect. I havent experienced any of my past samsung devices.
I am using GMD gesture control (instead of the buttons), that alone is worth rooting, imho.
Some people are reporting problems with casing (getting creaks or wobbles). That should still be warranted even with knox tripped. Isn't it?
Main drawback I see, is that OTA updates are not working with knox bit tripped.
But usually we'll move on some custom ROM anyway.
I would like to root my tablet that I just picked up today and most likely keep a stock rom that comes with it and just add root to block ads and a few other minor changes to it.
If I do that I know Knox will be tripped as there is not a way to root and not trip Knox.
What features or functions might I loose or should I have any concern about tripping knox on this device?
I know with the S5 if causes the private mode not to work but I am not really concerned with that.
And on the S6 that will most likely cause Samsung Pay not to work.
Would there be any features that stop working after Knox is tripped and device is rooted?
If you don't mind using kingroot you can root without tripping Knox - unless you install xposed or custom recovery. Look for my thread on no tether root in general section.
I have a new Tab S 10.5 running stock firmware. It's not on a carrier and is just the wifi model, SM-T800 running the latest version available, 5.0.2.
Many moons ago, I had an early android device where I could get root privileges that didn't alter the OS or setup, but instead simply granted the user the ability to elevate their privileges to superuser status. Is this still a possibility or must a new image from a ROM be used?
Also, I was told that the non-carrier devices do not have a locked bootloader. True?
After doing a little bit of homework, it seems that the answer is NO, that I cannot elevate my current user to root privileges.
Does that mean cf-auto-root will flash Samsung's stock recovery while simultaneously granting the user root privileges? Does that mean it will be just as if I'd bought the tablet off of the shelf, just with SU?
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After doing a little bit of homework, it seems that the answer is NO, that I cannot elevate my current user to root privileges.
Does that mean cf-auto-root will flash Samsung's stock recovery while simultaneously granting the user root privileges? Does that mean it will be just as if I'd bought the tablet off of the shelf, just with SU?
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Yes! All cfautoroot does is run a modified recovery with a script in it and does not touch any of your data or wipe anything. It will be the same tablet just with root As always warranty will be void
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Oh, so it doesn't even re image the device.
Can I take future OTA updates without breaking root?
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Oh, so it doesn't even re image the device.
Can I take future OTA updates without breaking root?
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No. Any ota or Rom will wipe root.
Tbh I don't see the point in not flashing a custom recovery if you're going to root anyway.
Custom recovery is one of the most powerful things you can do to a device and can give you the ability to rescue your device if you mess something up once you get root.
It's no big deal to flash stock recovery if the need arises.
Is it possible to get temporary(like if I root my device and then after reboot(normal reboot) it will be not rooted) root?
Device: Tab Pro 8.4 WiFi with KitKat.
Many of us on the Droid Turbo side were using Kingroot as a temp root solution...until Sunshine was released to unlock the bootloader. Then we used it to give us temp root, just long enough to unlock the bootloader, and quickly replaced it with SuperSU. The two downsides to using Kingroot...it's a Chinese entity, and while @jcase vouched for its safety, it is still Chinese (so I didn't trust it as a long-term solution). Second, temp root doesn't always allow you to write to /system, and if it does, the changes might not survive a reboot. So depending on what you're trying to accomplish, keep that in mind.
If I were to root or flash a custom recovery and a custom ROM to my Galaxy A5, would I still be able to use android pay, or would knox block it? Just to make it clear: I don't care about anything knox has to offer. I only care about android pay. I've read somewhere that using Magisk can hide root from android pay, but I don't if knox can disable it or not.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS7/comments/4sxcls/will_rooting_your_phone_and_tripping_knox_stop/
Quick search shows me that tripping knox will affect android pay, but I'm not really sure about the magisk thing.
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If I were to root or flash a custom recovery and a custom ROM to my Galaxy A5, would I still be able to use android pay, or would knox block it? Just to make it clear: I don't care about anything knox has to offer. I only care about android pay. I've read somewhere that using Magisk can hide root from android pay, but I don't if knox can disable it or not.
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If you root - you lose. Knox id tripped via an efuse on the mainboard. Unrecoverable unless the board is replaced. Magisk is your root tool and will not serve as a mask to the fact you will be rooted.
If you understand the risks - do it.
If you understand the risks but aren't entriely sure - don't do it.
Advice for life also? LOL
JHope that helps