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[XDA Flame]USB Host (what works and what doesn't)

What are the USB devices that people have got working with their devices?
Ive tried (all successfully)
- USB mouse
didn't display a pointer but when I moved it around and clicked in work it positioned the cursor, right click brought up the context menu
- USB keyboard
Worked a treat
- USB memory stick
Got recognised as a "Hard Drive" but worked no problems
What else have people tried

Memory Card Reader work as well even runs with CF and SD together.

Hey great.. thanx for the info. I tried a 200GB hard disk but it didnt work. Any solution?

jimlau said:
Hey great.. thanx for the info. I tried a 200GB hard disk but it didnt work. Any solution?
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You need a powered USB hub in-between the Flame and hard drive to power the hard drive if it doesn't have its own power.
You also need to reformat the drive to FAT16/32. If it's larger than 32 GB, you'll need Win98 or Linux to do this (2000/XP/etc. refuse to format over 32 GB except NTFS).
I got a Seagate FreeAgent Go 160 GB drive to work fine.

Gotten to work:
External hard drive (see above).
iRiver h140 MP3 player
SD card reader
Multiple card reader
Keyboard

Guys
Has anyone had any luck getting a mouse to work on the flame. I have tried every driver I can find.
Some display cursors but don't move and other drivers work but dont display cursor.
One come up with a Transparent Color Error.
If anyone has managed to get a mouse working (USB preferably) can you please advise your setup.
Also has anyone got COD2 to work on the flame
Thanks
Crash Pilot

this guy got a mouse to work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313580

Rudegar
Thanks for the reply. I tried the same thing as in the post you posted but no luck. Don't think he was using a flame.
I'm new to the PDA scene and get the feeling that there may be a software problem due to the Rom or the VGA screen.
Crash Pilot

yeah think he had an Athena

Since USB mice work except that no pointer is displayed, I suggest that all Flame owners start petitioning O2 Asia to have a default driver written that displays the pointer. Tell O2 that this could be a major selling point for the Flame and well worth the small cost of having a tiny driver written. It would just be a few KB in size.
There was a free program released years ago called mpointer which should work - download at www.freewareppc.com/utilities/mpointer.shtml
PocketDos has a mouse driver included
Try the international keyboard/mouse driver here http://www.pfaadtsoft.de/keybd.htm
Also Microsoft has a mouse driver in the Windows CE as described:
"The Embedded Toolkit for Windows CE contains source code for a sample driver for USB mouse devices. This driver uses interrupt-driven transfers. OEMs and IHVs are encouraged to use the mouse sample driver source code as the basis for other USB device drivers. Note that the registry is already set up correctly for the sample CE/PC platform to load the mouse driver, so that plugging in a mouse should load the driver."
I think the mouse driver for the Flame may have a problem because of the Nvidia chip otherwise it would have displayed properly. I read WM6 has upgraded device drivers including those for a USB mouse so when WM6 arrives this may solve the problem.

jimlau said:
Hey great.. thanx for the info. I tried a 200GB hard disk but it didnt work. Any solution?
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tested 250gb
worked

Still no luck. Tried everything. Has anyone else had any luck.

[Q] Sd Card and File Managers

Hello. Just got my Ouya yesterday. Having a bit of a hard time getting roms to work in my emulators.
I have a couple of questions regarding this..
1, Is an attached usb stick regarded as an sd card in the settings menu?
2. Are there any file managers available for the Ouya at this time. Preferably ES File explorer for its network capabilities, or something comparable
I'm also on a mac, and can't get the Ouya to recognize even fat formatted usb sticks.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks

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xonkwerdna said:
Hello. Just got my Ouya yesterday. Having a bit of a hard time getting roms to work in my emulators.
I have a couple of questions regarding this..
1, Is an attached usb stick regarded as an sd card in the settings menu?
2. Are there any file managers available for the Ouya at this time. Preferably ES File explorer for its network capabilities, or something comparable
I'm also on a mac, and can't get the Ouya to recognize even fat formatted usb sticks.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks
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1. Sadly, no. This is a point of annoyance for me, actually, since it means you cannot install apps/games to the USB drive as you could
with an SD card.
2. As for file managers, the OUYA does not have any built in but you can go to the "Make" menu and open the web browser. From there you can web search for an ES File Explorer APK (or create a backup on your phone and send it to dropbox, then access it from your browser).
a. I personally used my browser to install Box and Dropbox so that I can backup apps from my phone and send them to my browser.
It makes the side-loading process easier. I now have Amazon app store, emulators like N64oid and XBMC on my OUYA.
As for being on a Mac, I am not sure how formatting works on that.
UPDATE (just now haha): I will be trying this to see if it can be used to move apps to a USB stick. That would be brilliant! Will update with results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Cheers!

I've create a single fat32 partition with the default settings in linux/KDE on my drive. When I connect the drive to ouya using USB, it gets mounted at /mnt/usbdrive. I can see in the logcat output vold handling all the mounting the same as it would for an SD card. There are no other signs though, that anything is being mounted. There is no environmental variables like EXTERNAL_STORAGE pointing to this location. It does not appear in the settings->storage menu like it does on other devices. You kind of just have to know where it is and then you can browse to that location in your apps.

I'm in the same boat. I'm sitting here trying to get my 500gb 2.5" portable laptop HDD to load with my roms. At first I thought it was because of NFTS. So I formatted. Nothing. Then I wiped all the partitions into 1 huge exFat partition. Nothing. Plugged in my 32gb USB Stick that is NTFS. Nothing. Grabbed a MicroSD-USB adapter and used my 16gb from my MK808. Nothing. Grabbed my old 16gb and reformatted it as FAT32. Nothing.
Nothing is reading on my Ouya. Wtf?
None of my apps are reading anything.

It cant be exfat; it cant be NTFS. You need to make it fat32. There's something in windoze where it refuses to create a fat32 partition over a certain size, but you can do it on just about any other computer. You can make your whole 500GB hard drive fat32 and ouya will see it fine. Or you can wait until we have more development to enable ntfs support. Don't hold your breath for exfat, since M$ is charging big licensing fees for it.

No I think my USB port is shot.
I've formatted several USB thumb drives to FAT32 and it still refuses to see any of them. Really sucks because the sole reason I bought the OUYA was to load all my roms on it. The bad thing is that they are so backordered that I'll just have to deal with it for a while.

player911 said:
No I think my USB port is shot.
I've formatted several USB thumb drives to FAT32 and it still refuses to see any of them. Really sucks because the sole reason I bought the OUYA was to load all my roms on it. The bad thing is that they are so backordered that I'll just have to deal with it for a while.
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How are you trying to test if they work? Because MOST people's problem is that it doesn't show up on the OUYA itself, it's all app specific and there is no directions built in to find USB storage at this time.
Grab a USB Keyboard or Mouse and try that to see if it works, at least that way you can rule out a bad USB port.
I've tried multiple different USB devices all with 0 problems and it seems like the people who go through 3 or 4+ different ones just don't know where to look.
I'm NOT saying this is your problem exactly or that you're dumb in anyway, you may have a bad unit, just trying to help with what I've observed while helping others on this forum.
And to address the FAT32 vs NTFS: Plenty of people have confirmed that NTFS works, including myself. It was rumored at the beginning that only FAT32 worked, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Good shot on a USB mouse or keyboard. I don't have anything wired but i have some RF wireless that should work. I've tried everything else. All of the emulator apps see sdcard1 and sdcard0. One shows internal storage and the other shows nothing. Won't even show folders. It shows this regardless if its plugged in or not.
The light on my USB lights up and so does my HDD. So the power is there but no communication. I'll have to look at it closer tomorrow.
I got it from gamestop and it was opened. Looked used actually. The tie wraps on the cables were gone, the internal box was bent, there was some kind of fiber/hair in the box, and fingerprints all over it, and the batteries were in the controller. I got 10% off and a free 1yr warranty. So they'll just have to give me a new one later. Its the only one available within 100 miles. Best buys out too.
I'm an IT admin so even if it "kinda" works, it shouldn't be this flaky. 4 storage devices and all not working. Someone probably blew out the USB and returned it, and GameStop tried to sell it as new.
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I do have my PS3 with its wired miniUSB. I'll try that tomorrow.
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player911 said:
Good shot on a USB mouse or keyboard. I don't have anything wired but i have some RF wireless that should work. I've tried everything else. All of the emulator apps see sdcard1 and sdcard0. One shows internal storage and the other shows nothing. Won't even show folders. It shows this regardless if its plugged in or not.
The light on my USB lights up and so does my HDD. So the power is there but no communication. I'll have to look at it closer tomorrow.
I got it from gamestop and it was opened. Looked used actually. The tie wraps on the cables were gone, the internal box was bent, there was some kind of fiber/hair in the box, and fingerprints all over it, and the batteries were in the controller. I got 10% off and a free 1yr warranty. So they'll just have to give me a new one later. Its the only one available within 100 miles. Best buys out too.
I'm an IT admin so even if it "kinda" works, it shouldn't be this flaky. 4 storage devices and all not working. Someone probably blew out the USB and returned it, and GameStop tried to sell it as new.
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I do have my PS3 with its wired miniUSB. I'll try that tomorrow.
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Good luck! At least you can always take it back to gamestop once they ahve another one to get it, but I hope it doesn't come down to it for you!

Holy crap my PS3 is working?!
Now I'm totally confused.
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Got it working. I ended up having to do a Factory Reset. Here is the quote I posted from the Ouya Forums:
Player911 said:
Well I just fixed it!!!
I just got my OUYA yesterday and immediately threw on my 640gb HDD but it wouldn't see it. I kept screwing with it and screwing with it. Nothing. 32gb Flash drive. Nothing. 16gb Flash Drive. Nothing. 16gb microSD-USB. Nothing. I screwed with Fat32, NTFS. Nothing worked! I thought my USB was blown. Someone suggested trying a USB device so I used my PS3 controller. BOOM. Worked. USB Storage... Nothing.
I'm an IT Admin with a N7 and a Galaxy Nexus. I know my way around.
Well in this thread, I saw someone did a Factory Reset and that worked. WTH right? So I did a factory reset and low and behold, my HDD is reading like a champ.
So if you have USB HDD issues, use the Formatter Tool to format it to FAT32: http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?...ll=1#post35834
If that doesn't work. Factory Reset and set it back up!
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player911 said:
Holy crap my PS3 is working?!
Now I'm totally confused.
EDIT!!!!!!!!
Got it working. I ended up having to do a Factory Reset.
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Glad you go it working! Makes me wonder what the problem was in the first place, since it worked for HID but not storage. Maybe bad install or update of drivers.

I dunno. First thing it did when I turned it on was an update. I've spent all day screwing with it and dredging through forums. There are tons of people who have had issues after the last update, where it WAS working and magically stopped. So I'm thinking it was a firmware issues, perhaps something they changed. Since mine was probably used, perhaps it had drivers in there and got screwed up after the update. Who knows.
I do plan on swapping this out with a new one as soon as Gamestop has them in stock, since he was so kind to give me a 1 yr warranty. The USB port isn't tight and the connections feels sloppy. At first I was thinking that it wasn't making a good connection. For all I know, someone had an early edition and swapped it out with a new release day model. Like you said, something makes me wonder. I don't want anything else to happen down the road because of mal-use of a previous owner.

Help using a rooted firetv2 as a local plex server

Hello,
I found some similar topics, but nothing specific enough to give the help I needed, so hopefully it is okay that I start this.
I have a firetv2 which is now rooted. Thanks to the help from this forum it went really smoothly. I am on 5.0.4.
I am hoping to run this firetv in my van to help pacify my four young children.
I was wanting to put plex on the firetv and to be able to give them a library of movies to watch.
What I am not sure of is the best way to go about this knowing that FAT32 has a 4GB file size limit which these movies will all most likely exceed. I'd rather not transcode them and I'd like to be able to store as many as possible (larger storage), so I don't have to update it often.
Things I have considered, but am not sure of the limitations of:
1. Using the usb port and connecting an external usb drive. I think I read this has to be FAT32 though and so this may not work.
2. Using the MicroSD slot....again I think I read this has to be FAT32 and may not work.
3. Creating a local network using a WIFI microSD, USB thumb drive adapter, or wifi enabled HDD. Some solution that allows me to create a local network that plex can access and read from that would allow me to increase storage and not have the file size restrictions. I've looked into several solutions here all varying in price.
Thank you for any help you can provide and for this great resource and community.

I would use either vlc or kodi. as for disk drives use stickmount. here is an article on aftvnews. aftvnews dot com/how-to-play-media-files-from-external-usb-storage-on-amazon-fire-tv/

FireTV External Storage Options

Hello,
I am thinking of using my FireTV more. I would like to know what people suggest for external storage. I had a 500GB or 1TB old external USB drive and I cannot get the FireTV to recognize it. About to pull the trigger on a new external drive. Suggestions? Once connected should I change the way I have my apps etc installed? Help appreciated.
Thank you,

thesticks00 said:
Hello,
I am thinking of using my FireTV more. I would like to know what people suggest for external storage. I had a 500GB or 1TB old external USB drive and I cannot get the FireTV to recognize it. About to pull the trigger on a new external drive. Suggestions? Once connected should I change the way I have my apps etc installed? Help appreciated.
Thank you,
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Hi! Did you format that USB drive as FAT-32? Shockingly, that's the only format that standard Fire TVs allow. I've read of a few hacks that allegedly allow other formats (I don't know if they work), but otherwise you're forced to use FAT-32. That's obviously particularly sub-optimal, since that file system only allows files up to 2 GB in size; no movie file is that small...
Hope that helped!

Embee11 said:
Hi! Did you format that USB drive as FAT-32? Shockingly, that's the only format that standard Fire TVs allow. I've read of a few hacks that allegedly allow other formats (I don't know if they work), but otherwise you're forced to use FAT-32. That's obviously particularly sub-optimal, since that file system only allows files up to 2 GB in size; no movie file is that small...
Hope that helped!
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Is that the only requirement? I would have thought even if it needed to be formatted, the FIRETV would recognize it and tell me to format. It's a pretty massive drive (1TB i think). I can try formatting to that type and seeing what happens. I just assumed since it didnt even notice it was connected (and i know you can format drives using FIRETV) that either it is not reading the drive at all or the drive is busted. I will give that a go.
If you happen to have an external hdd connected, please let me know what you are using.
Thanks

And regarding app storage, since my first-gen Fire TV (unlike my second-gen model) has little internal storage, I try to move as many apps as possible to the USB drive. But you should keep crucial apps internally, so that if the drive fails you can still have a workable Fire TV. For example, leave any apps that would be necessary to help you restore a backup and the like in internal storage. And perhaps a few apps that particularly need fast startup on demand (I don't know any examples myself).
And you'll find that most built-in apps can't be moved to USB storage.
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thesticks00 said:
Is that the only requirement? I would have thought even if it needed to be formatted, the FIRETV would recognize it and tell me to format. It's a pretty massive drive (1TB i think). I can try formatting to that type and seeing what happens. I just assumed since it didnt even notice it was connected (and i know you can format drives using FIRETV) that either it is not reading the drive at all or the drive is busted. I will give that a go.
If you happen to have an external hdd connected, please let me know what you are using.
Thanks
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Unfortunately, the Amazon developers did not include any code to present such messages. If the drive isn't formatted as FAT-32, it will act as if you never even plugged in any drive. I found that out the hard way!
I'm currently using a 1 TB Seagate Backup Plus Portable USB drive, model SRD00F1, and once I formatted as FAT-32, it's working perfectly.

Embee11 said:
And regarding app storage, since my first-gen Fire TV (unlike my second-gen model) has little internal storage, I try to move as many apps as possible to the USB drive. But you should keep crucial apps internally, so that if the drive fails you can still have a workable Fire TV. For example, leave any apps that would be necessary to help you restore a backup and the like in internal storage. And perhaps a few apps that particularly need fast startup on demand (I don't know any examples myself).
And you'll find that most built-in apps can't be moved to USB storage.
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Unfortunately, the Amazon developers did not include any code to present such messages. If the drive isn't formatted as FAT-32, it will act as if you never even plugged in any drive. I found that out the hard way!
I'm currently using a 1 TB Seagate Backup Plus Portable USB drive, model SRD00F1, and once I formatted as FAT-32, it's working perfectly.
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Thank you. I will definitely do that when I get home. Hate to barrage you with questions, but what have you put on your HDD. I am an avid gamer and I was thinking of emulating some of my old games and throwing the roms of games I own on the hdd as I am already running out of space on the internal storage of the FIRETV. I am also looking itnto ways I can launch apps/games (apks) from the storage (games like GTA VICE are killing my storage space and would like to relocate them).

thesticks00 said:
Thank you. I will definitely do that when I get home. Hate to barrage you with questions, but what have you put on your HDD. I am an avid gamer and I was thinking of emulating some of my old games and throwing the roms of games I own on the hdd as I am already running out of space on the internal storage of the FIRETV. I am also looking itnto ways I can launch apps/games (apks) from the storage (games like GTA VICE are killing my storage space and would like to relocate them).
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Hey, I'm happy to try to help, so don't worry about more questions! Regrettably, I'm not a gamer so I can't speak knowledgeably to those issues. However, any third-party app that you can install on your Fire TV -- such as a game -- can easily be moved to your USB drive. And launching an app from USB storage is indistinguishable from one stored internally, so there's nothing to worry about there.
Just keep in mind that any app you want to run must be installed via standard procedures, by downloading it from the Amazon store or by using so-called "side-loading" tools such as ADBlink.
One thing I'm slightly puzzled by are your references to an "hdd". Are you talking about an external USB drive, or an actual Hard Disk Drive? The reason I ask is that I've seen a few claims -- which might well be false -- that the Fire TV has difficulty with Hard Disk Drives. But that very well have been based on misunderstood issues regarding power -- the Fire TV provides USB power, but that's not how one would power an external hard disk drive! The hdd would obviously have to be powered independently, such as by plugging it into the wall.
If you have more questions, ask away! I'll only be online for another hour, but I can try to answer them later...

TCL won't format USB

Hi.
My TCL Android TV won't format USB as internal storage. The process runs but it formats as external then ejects it.
Tried a number of USB sticks with the same result.
Any suggestions?
Ta

Hi, I just bought a TCL TV and it doesn't allow adoptable storage. I contacted TCL customer services and they confirmed this. Not sure what the point of the USB is?
I wonder if there is a standard Android workaround? I know lots of people had this issue with Samsung phones.
I downloaded 1 game and it took up a massive chunk of the internal memory..

Thanks. I guessed that might be the answer. I was hoping it might allow me to pause and record live TV. Have you had any success with that?

Hi, I'm concerned about the number of apps that can be downloaded before I get that annoying storage space message. There must be a way. I tried connecting to the USB port through my PC today, but to no avail. Would be nice to take advantage of extra storage.

How did you contact them? Not answering emails .