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[Q] Sd Card and File Managers

Hello. Just got my Ouya yesterday. Having a bit of a hard time getting roms to work in my emulators.
I have a couple of questions regarding this..
1, Is an attached usb stick regarded as an sd card in the settings menu?
2. Are there any file managers available for the Ouya at this time. Preferably ES File explorer for its network capabilities, or something comparable
I'm also on a mac, and can't get the Ouya to recognize even fat formatted usb sticks.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks

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xonkwerdna said:
Hello. Just got my Ouya yesterday. Having a bit of a hard time getting roms to work in my emulators.
I have a couple of questions regarding this..
1, Is an attached usb stick regarded as an sd card in the settings menu?
2. Are there any file managers available for the Ouya at this time. Preferably ES File explorer for its network capabilities, or something comparable
I'm also on a mac, and can't get the Ouya to recognize even fat formatted usb sticks.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks
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1. Sadly, no. This is a point of annoyance for me, actually, since it means you cannot install apps/games to the USB drive as you could
with an SD card.
2. As for file managers, the OUYA does not have any built in but you can go to the "Make" menu and open the web browser. From there you can web search for an ES File Explorer APK (or create a backup on your phone and send it to dropbox, then access it from your browser).
a. I personally used my browser to install Box and Dropbox so that I can backup apps from my phone and send them to my browser.
It makes the side-loading process easier. I now have Amazon app store, emulators like N64oid and XBMC on my OUYA.
As for being on a Mac, I am not sure how formatting works on that.
UPDATE (just now haha): I will be trying this to see if it can be used to move apps to a USB stick. That would be brilliant! Will update with results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Cheers!

I've create a single fat32 partition with the default settings in linux/KDE on my drive. When I connect the drive to ouya using USB, it gets mounted at /mnt/usbdrive. I can see in the logcat output vold handling all the mounting the same as it would for an SD card. There are no other signs though, that anything is being mounted. There is no environmental variables like EXTERNAL_STORAGE pointing to this location. It does not appear in the settings->storage menu like it does on other devices. You kind of just have to know where it is and then you can browse to that location in your apps.

I'm in the same boat. I'm sitting here trying to get my 500gb 2.5" portable laptop HDD to load with my roms. At first I thought it was because of NFTS. So I formatted. Nothing. Then I wiped all the partitions into 1 huge exFat partition. Nothing. Plugged in my 32gb USB Stick that is NTFS. Nothing. Grabbed a MicroSD-USB adapter and used my 16gb from my MK808. Nothing. Grabbed my old 16gb and reformatted it as FAT32. Nothing.
Nothing is reading on my Ouya. Wtf?
None of my apps are reading anything.

It cant be exfat; it cant be NTFS. You need to make it fat32. There's something in windoze where it refuses to create a fat32 partition over a certain size, but you can do it on just about any other computer. You can make your whole 500GB hard drive fat32 and ouya will see it fine. Or you can wait until we have more development to enable ntfs support. Don't hold your breath for exfat, since M$ is charging big licensing fees for it.

No I think my USB port is shot.
I've formatted several USB thumb drives to FAT32 and it still refuses to see any of them. Really sucks because the sole reason I bought the OUYA was to load all my roms on it. The bad thing is that they are so backordered that I'll just have to deal with it for a while.

player911 said:
No I think my USB port is shot.
I've formatted several USB thumb drives to FAT32 and it still refuses to see any of them. Really sucks because the sole reason I bought the OUYA was to load all my roms on it. The bad thing is that they are so backordered that I'll just have to deal with it for a while.
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How are you trying to test if they work? Because MOST people's problem is that it doesn't show up on the OUYA itself, it's all app specific and there is no directions built in to find USB storage at this time.
Grab a USB Keyboard or Mouse and try that to see if it works, at least that way you can rule out a bad USB port.
I've tried multiple different USB devices all with 0 problems and it seems like the people who go through 3 or 4+ different ones just don't know where to look.
I'm NOT saying this is your problem exactly or that you're dumb in anyway, you may have a bad unit, just trying to help with what I've observed while helping others on this forum.
And to address the FAT32 vs NTFS: Plenty of people have confirmed that NTFS works, including myself. It was rumored at the beginning that only FAT32 worked, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Good shot on a USB mouse or keyboard. I don't have anything wired but i have some RF wireless that should work. I've tried everything else. All of the emulator apps see sdcard1 and sdcard0. One shows internal storage and the other shows nothing. Won't even show folders. It shows this regardless if its plugged in or not.
The light on my USB lights up and so does my HDD. So the power is there but no communication. I'll have to look at it closer tomorrow.
I got it from gamestop and it was opened. Looked used actually. The tie wraps on the cables were gone, the internal box was bent, there was some kind of fiber/hair in the box, and fingerprints all over it, and the batteries were in the controller. I got 10% off and a free 1yr warranty. So they'll just have to give me a new one later. Its the only one available within 100 miles. Best buys out too.
I'm an IT admin so even if it "kinda" works, it shouldn't be this flaky. 4 storage devices and all not working. Someone probably blew out the USB and returned it, and GameStop tried to sell it as new.
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I do have my PS3 with its wired miniUSB. I'll try that tomorrow.
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player911 said:
Good shot on a USB mouse or keyboard. I don't have anything wired but i have some RF wireless that should work. I've tried everything else. All of the emulator apps see sdcard1 and sdcard0. One shows internal storage and the other shows nothing. Won't even show folders. It shows this regardless if its plugged in or not.
The light on my USB lights up and so does my HDD. So the power is there but no communication. I'll have to look at it closer tomorrow.
I got it from gamestop and it was opened. Looked used actually. The tie wraps on the cables were gone, the internal box was bent, there was some kind of fiber/hair in the box, and fingerprints all over it, and the batteries were in the controller. I got 10% off and a free 1yr warranty. So they'll just have to give me a new one later. Its the only one available within 100 miles. Best buys out too.
I'm an IT admin so even if it "kinda" works, it shouldn't be this flaky. 4 storage devices and all not working. Someone probably blew out the USB and returned it, and GameStop tried to sell it as new.
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I do have my PS3 with its wired miniUSB. I'll try that tomorrow.
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Good luck! At least you can always take it back to gamestop once they ahve another one to get it, but I hope it doesn't come down to it for you!

Holy crap my PS3 is working?!
Now I'm totally confused.
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Got it working. I ended up having to do a Factory Reset. Here is the quote I posted from the Ouya Forums:
Player911 said:
Well I just fixed it!!!
I just got my OUYA yesterday and immediately threw on my 640gb HDD but it wouldn't see it. I kept screwing with it and screwing with it. Nothing. 32gb Flash drive. Nothing. 16gb Flash Drive. Nothing. 16gb microSD-USB. Nothing. I screwed with Fat32, NTFS. Nothing worked! I thought my USB was blown. Someone suggested trying a USB device so I used my PS3 controller. BOOM. Worked. USB Storage... Nothing.
I'm an IT Admin with a N7 and a Galaxy Nexus. I know my way around.
Well in this thread, I saw someone did a Factory Reset and that worked. WTH right? So I did a factory reset and low and behold, my HDD is reading like a champ.
So if you have USB HDD issues, use the Formatter Tool to format it to FAT32: http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?...ll=1#post35834
If that doesn't work. Factory Reset and set it back up!
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player911 said:
Holy crap my PS3 is working?!
Now I'm totally confused.
EDIT!!!!!!!!
Got it working. I ended up having to do a Factory Reset.
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Glad you go it working! Makes me wonder what the problem was in the first place, since it worked for HID but not storage. Maybe bad install or update of drivers.

I dunno. First thing it did when I turned it on was an update. I've spent all day screwing with it and dredging through forums. There are tons of people who have had issues after the last update, where it WAS working and magically stopped. So I'm thinking it was a firmware issues, perhaps something they changed. Since mine was probably used, perhaps it had drivers in there and got screwed up after the update. Who knows.
I do plan on swapping this out with a new one as soon as Gamestop has them in stock, since he was so kind to give me a 1 yr warranty. The USB port isn't tight and the connections feels sloppy. At first I was thinking that it wasn't making a good connection. For all I know, someone had an early edition and swapped it out with a new release day model. Like you said, something makes me wonder. I don't want anything else to happen down the road because of mal-use of a previous owner.

[Q] Access to folders created by other user

I have the SM-T700 model with 4.4.2. android and created few user accounts on it so that few family members can use it with its own settings etc.
What I noticed is that if one user creates a folder on the device's internal storage, no other user can access it.
I've looked for options to change it but found none. Well, maybe that is exactly what Samsung wanted but that does not really fit me and my guys. That is quite restrictive and not even PCs go that far in regards to different accounts on the same device.
Is there a way around this or maybe an option to change it that I was unable to locate?
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That's the whole point of having separate user accounts. You can't have it work in a half hearted manner.

kenkiller said:
That's the whole point of having separate user accounts. You can't have it work in a half hearted manner.
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Thank you, but I think it can work and sorry, I do not see the point.
Here is the situation - let's say you have few GBs of family photos and videos on the Tab and two more users besides you. With the current setup, I would have to copy to two other accounts everything that I had already put on the device and suddenly something that was 2GB becomes 6GB and it is just great waste of resources.
It is like if Windows PC would not allow any other user to see what is on C drive except the stuff he/she put on it (and system files of course).
As we all know, for the stuff you do not want others to have direct access to you can put it My Documents but the rest of files on C drive is visible and accessible to all other users on that computer (by default).
Hopefully we see that concept soon on android.

If there's no restriction, try saving to an external sdcard or a memory stick connected via USB-OTG MICRO-USB to USB adapter.

UpInTheAir said:
If there's no restriction, try saving to an external sdcard or a memory stick connected via USB-OTG MICRO-USB to USB adapter.
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That is correct, the external sdcard has no restrictions in that regard and I have been already using it to bypass this multiple users policy.
On a device with 16 G internal memory however I do not think that was necessary.
But, yes, there is kind of way around it until things hopefully change.

Help using a rooted firetv2 as a local plex server

Hello,
I found some similar topics, but nothing specific enough to give the help I needed, so hopefully it is okay that I start this.
I have a firetv2 which is now rooted. Thanks to the help from this forum it went really smoothly. I am on 5.0.4.
I am hoping to run this firetv in my van to help pacify my four young children.
I was wanting to put plex on the firetv and to be able to give them a library of movies to watch.
What I am not sure of is the best way to go about this knowing that FAT32 has a 4GB file size limit which these movies will all most likely exceed. I'd rather not transcode them and I'd like to be able to store as many as possible (larger storage), so I don't have to update it often.
Things I have considered, but am not sure of the limitations of:
1. Using the usb port and connecting an external usb drive. I think I read this has to be FAT32 though and so this may not work.
2. Using the MicroSD slot....again I think I read this has to be FAT32 and may not work.
3. Creating a local network using a WIFI microSD, USB thumb drive adapter, or wifi enabled HDD. Some solution that allows me to create a local network that plex can access and read from that would allow me to increase storage and not have the file size restrictions. I've looked into several solutions here all varying in price.
Thank you for any help you can provide and for this great resource and community.

I would use either vlc or kodi. as for disk drives use stickmount. here is an article on aftvnews. aftvnews dot com/how-to-play-media-files-from-external-usb-storage-on-amazon-fire-tv/

apps on usb flash drive

Hello,
I have got a nexus 5x and would like to install apps on a flash drive so that i can get extra space. Is there a way to do that?

No way. U can save some space by using otg drive. And moving ur Media to external drive.

I'm assuming you're considering this for games and whatnot. I'm sure that, with root, this is possible. How exactly? Not sure.

As per my knowledge it wont possible. Will try once i receive my otg adapter in couple days. Only chance is have to check whether play store will show the otg drive in default install locations path. Or using some app to move to apk data folder to otg drive ( like we did on old low end devices like htc explore).

Write to Attached Storage Remotely

I'm thinking about buying a Shield .....
One thing I do want really to be able to do is write to attached external storage remotely over a network .... either to an SD card or a Drive .... using something like Sambadroid (rather than via FTP) which can be set up as a network location from a PC/Laptop so I can control downloads to it from elsewhere in the house.
It's something I can't do with my current box as it doesn't give you write access and if you try and change the permissions it bricks.
Does anyone know if this can be easily done?

Witterings said:
I'm thinking about buying a Shield .....
One thing I do want really to be able to do is write to attached external storage remotely over a network .... either to an SD card or a Drive .... using something like Sambadroid (rather than via FTP) which can be set up as a network location from a PC/Laptop so I can control downloads to it from elsewhere in the house.
It's something I can't do with my current box as it doesn't give you write access and if you try and change the permissions it bricks.
Does anyone know if this can be easily done?
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The shield already does this, the plex server running on it also creates a smb share, you will need to activate it first though, in the storage settings.
And I do think if you want to use another solution, you can, you just need to make sure that the smb share plex creates is not active.
Only downside is, it's only using smbv1.
But I do think nvidia is working on getting smbv3.
It does already have it if you mount lets say your pc
or a nas through the shield as a network storage.

mLgz0rn said:
The shield already does this, the plex server running on it also creates a smb share, you will need to activate it first though, in the storage settings.
And I do think if you want to use another solution, you can, you just need to make sure that the smb share plex creates is not active.
Only downside is, it's only using smbv1.
But I do think nvidia is working on getting smbv3.
It does already have it if you mount lets say your pc
or a nas through the shield as a network storage.
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Thank you for that ..... do you happen to know if you can then create network locations in the \\plexserver\androidstorage type format as opposed to ftp:// format ... things like iplayer only recognise the former

Witterings said:
Thank you for that ..... do you happen to know if you can then create network locations in the \\plexserver\androidstorage type format as opposed to ftp:// format ... things like iplayer only recognise the former
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This is the path to my external hdd attached to the shield.
\\SHIELDANDROIDTV\Toshiba 2TB USB3.0
I don't know if they have changed it, but when you add a external harddrive, it will create the folder NVIDIA_SHIELD.
Under that folder you can create whatever you want, the shield wont see anything outside that folder.
So for example my movies are located here
\\SHIELDANDROIDTV\Toshiba 2TB USB3.0\NVIDIA_SHIELD\Media Server\Movies
If I did it like this \\SHIELDANDROIDTV\Toshiba 2TB USB3.0\Media Server\Movies the shield wouldn't be able to see those folders
And this is my path to the internal drive in the shield
\\SHIELDANDROIDTV\internal

Thank you for that ... much appreciated and have just ordered one!!
I wonder if they're bout to bring out a new version though as they're really hard to get hold of, yesterday morning 1st thing I could have order click and collect the next day at Curry's ..... by 11.30am they weren't available and ringing around virtually nowhere has them in stock.

This worked fine for a couple of days and then suddenly stopped ... it also seems to have made the button in storage settings inactive as I thought switching it off and back on again might be like a mini re-boot and get it working.
I also thought about trying something else but was also aware you mentioned not to unless the plex share was inactive ... frustrating.

Witterings said:
This worked fine for a couple of days and then suddenly stopped ... it also seems to have made the button in storage settings inactive as I thought switching it off and back on again might be like a mini re-boot and get it working.
I also thought about trying something else but was also aware you mentioned not to unless the plex share was inactive ... frustrating.
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If the plex media server is not running the smb part wont work.
I've noticed that if the plex server is running then switching the smb off and then on works for me.
Are you on the most recent shield experience version?
You can try turning it off in the storage settings, and try running the smb server from another app, won't hurt anything.

Check system updates and Plex Server updates.
On a side note, I though smbv3 was out already in SHIELD Experience 7.2 update... need to check.

Partially me being a numpty as was trying to switch it off / back on again the wrong way but I manged to get it running again ... I think the main issue was to do with Windows Networking Security and got itself into a loop where I'd saved it as a Network location from a couple of machines as it now asks for a Network password if I go in via \\shield but I can get in without using the \\IPaddress and save them as mapped drives.
Another query along the same lines, if instead I re-format the drive as internal storage can I still access it across the network the same way or is it restricted again .... I ask as I'm now getting available space warnings and need to decide what route to take.
I'd be interested to know what data speeds people get across a wired network as well, I tried copying a video from my NAS to the USB drive and it was running around 6/7 Mbs, is that a limitation of the write speed of the Shield as I was expecting it to be quite a lot higher.

zinko_pt said:
Check system updates and Plex Server updates.
On a side note, I though smbv3 was out already in SHIELD Experience 7.2 update... need to check.
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Its only smbv3 if you mount lets say your pc as a network storage on the shield.
The smb share the plex server makes is smbv1
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Witterings said:
Partially me being a numpty as was trying to switch it off / back on again the wrong way but I manged to get it running again ... I think the main issue was to do with Windows Networking Security and got itself into a loop where I'd saved it as a Network location from a couple of machines as it now asks for a Network password if I go in via \\shield but I can get in without using the \\IPaddress and save them as mapped drives.
Another query along the same lines, if instead I re-format the drive as internal storage can I still access it across the network the same way or is it restricted again .... I ask as I'm now getting available space warnings and need to decide what route to take.
I'd be interested to know what data speeds people get across a wired network as well, I tried copying a video from my NAS to the USB drive and it was running around 6/7 Mbs, is that a limitation of the write speed of the Shield as I was expecting it to be quite a lot higher.
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You can access it if you make it as internal storage, it will just be the internal storage that shows up on the smb share then.
I don't really know much about the write speeds, but there should be no limitations.
It might be because of smbv1.
You could try and set up a ftp server on the shield and transfer through that, just to see what speeds you get.
What you could also do it mounting your NAS as a network Storage, that way it should run smbv3, if you are on nvidia experience 7.2+ that is.

I am a little dumb when it comes to this. I have an external attached to my nvidia, plex server active, and can see server/hard drive on PC. But what I cant do is to transfer files. I really need help.
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GastonC said:
I am a little dumb when it comes to this. I have an external attached to my nvidia, plex server active, and can see server/hard drive on PC. But what I cant do is to transfer files. I really need help.
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Have you created a folder on the external harddrive called NVIDIA_SHIELD?
If not, do that.
You can only read outside of that folder, but inside you can read/write.

I have not. I will try that and will respond back.
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