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My Fire TV is part of a set-up consisting of itself, TV (duh), A/V Receiver, and a couple of other HDMI devices that go into the receiver. TV, A/V receiver and others are controlled via Infrared remotes, while Fire TV remote is Bluetooth, if I understand correctly. I'd like to consolidate all the different controls into one universal remote and was wondering if someone had any ideas on how to go about that.
I've previously owned a Logitech Harmony remote that worked well, but I really don't want to shell out $250+ for those.
I've confirmed that RF-type mini keyboards with a USB receiver work. Now I need to find a similar one with IR and learning functionality. I've been looking at Amazon and it looks like something like this might work.
If anyone has recommendations, I'd be very grateful.
You can just use the Flirc IR to USB receiver. Search Amazon for FLIRC, its $30. Then use that with your current universal remote, if you have one.
I can't post link, too new, but here is the XBMC thread confirming its functionality.
ht tp://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=191109&pid=1674861
Spelvin said:
You can just use the Flirc IR to USB receiver. Search Amazon for FLIRC, its $30. Then use that with your current universal remote, if you have one.
I can't post link, too new, but here is the XBMC thread confirming its functionality.
ht tp://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=191109&pid=1674861
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Thanks for the Flirc suggestion, I'll look into it. Unfortunately I don't own a universal remote any more. My old Logitech Harmony 880 died a few years ago, and I've been making do with a Sony Google TV remote (comes with a couple of IR blasters.)
a lot of people seem to like the ortek/mce remote but it only has a mousepad-thingy and no kdb. then again spamazon has it for USD12.55, so that's almost worth getting just to have a spare remote.
the remote you linked, Chahk, seems quite useful (although who chose the button colors it is so ugly
the keyboard/mouse side looks like the standard Rii type - I have one of the most basic Rii for my ouya, except in BT rather than RF. the touchpad is kinda sketchy and takes some finesse, but it works well enough. the keyboard works well enough.
my favorite is still the PS3 / BD remote. but it only has 2 IR modes (tv, and amp/receiver) and it sounds like you have 3-4 IR devices?
(and the IR modes are only of the "pick a number out of the hat" variety, not custom programmable or learning or anything.)
it works great with ouya bluetooth, but there are at least 2 problems in regard to firetv:
- either amazon has to expand BT settings to generic HID, or we will need root to edit some config files.
- it is a pinless device. for android up to 4.1.x there is a consistent workaround. but not for android 4.2 and higher. (but again editing config file would probably be enough)
Is there an remote app from the market you can use to control the Fire TV?
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I can confirm that the Ortek-Windows-Infrared-Receiver-Ultimate I purchased from Amazon does indeed work with my Harmony One and the Fire TV.
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Do the "Home" and "Menu" buttons work with the Ortek remote?
I have a similar MCE remote (LINK) which mostly works but not these two buttons.
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Do the "Home" and "Menu" buttons work with the Ortek remote?
I have a similar MCE remote which mostly works but not these two buttons.
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All the buttons show there work, including "Home" and "Back", however there is no button on the remote to bring up a context menu
google "fire tv tips" there is a key map that shows what buttons do what on a google tv forum
Remote/keyboard app
Is there a remote app from the market you can use to control the Fire TV?
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Is there a remote app from the market you can use to control the Fire TV?
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Not an official one. Able Remote works well for Google TV, but requires a companion app to be installed on the TV. The developer will have to come up with a Fire TV specific version.
Well, I went ahead and ordered this ugly monstrosity. It's coming from Singapore, so it'll be a few weeks before it get here.
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Well, I went ahead and ordered this ugly monstrosity. It's coming from Singapore, so it'll be a few weeks before it get here.
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It's here, and it does a fine job at controlling the Fire TV. unfortunately it does a piss-poor job of controlling pretty much anything else. Contrary to the description, it has no "IR learning" functionality, but a simple list of codes instead. The list is quite limited, and only supports half of my devices. I'm done with cheap Chinese knock-offs, and will be ordering a Logitech Harmony remote instead.
[Update]:
Harmony Ultimate is here, and it controls everything I have except Fire TV. Aaaaarrrghhh! I'm ready to pull my hair out over here.
Last chance. I'm ordering one of those cheap USB IR receivers that people over at AVS Forums are saying work well with Fire TV, and teaching my Harmony the basic buttons (left, right, up, down, select, back, home.) If that doesn't work - all of it is going back to their respective manufacturers until they learn how to play nice with each other.
UPDATE 2:
Victory! After hooking up the IR receiver from the MCE remote to Fire TV, and teaching Harmony the basic keys, I can now control everything in my setup with a single remote. Of course the voice input from the Fire TV remote is missing, and since Harmony Ultimate has no keyboard, I'm stuck doing text entry letter-by-letter via the clunky mid-90's interface. It'll do for now, until I figure out a way to either bring QWERTY to Harmony, or get a USB hub for Fire TV so that I can use my RF micro-keyboard.
Now I need to do some wire management to take care of the spaghetti wiring from all these devices.
UPDATE 3:
Got a simple unpowered 4-port USB hub, plugged in both the IR receiver and an RF receiver, so now I can also use a micro-keyboard for doing text input. The living room is now wife-approved!
Here's another "All-In-One" universal remote option that will work for both standard IR devices and BT devices:
Blu-Link Universal Remote
This remotes can:
1. Act like a normal IR remote (i.e. it has a slew four digit codes to program the remote to work with your IR components)
2. Act like a BT remote (has a built in BT transmitter in it to work with BT devices such as gaming consoles, media boxes (Roku/Fire TV/Apple TV)
3. Has a learning functionality so that any button on your remote can be learned by the Blu-Link remote
(The user guide for the remote can be found here)
The best part is that the remote is only $27.
My only issue now is that I lose the speech recognition ability of the Fire TV remote, but I have yet to find any universal remote setup that can do that.
smithmal
I ended up with this BT/IR kbd+touchpad +8 IR keys, and it's not bad so far ... aside from being a little flimsy and the IR is not super-strong and the battery is only 250mah.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59103175&postcount=8
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M32PBXO/
but I still almost wish for having one of the singapore monstrosities, simply for how wonderfully unbelievably ugly it is.
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Here's another "All-In-One" universal remote option that will work for both standard IR devices and BT devices:
Blu-Link Universal Remote
This remotes can:
1. Act like a normal IR remote (i.e. it has a slew four digit codes to program the remote to work with your IR components)
2. Act like a BT remote (has a built in BT transmitter in it to work with BT devices such as gaming consoles, media boxes (Roku/Fire TV/Apple TV)
3. Has a learning functionality so that any button on your remote can be learned by the Blu-Link remote
(The user guide for the remote can be found here)
The best part is that the remote is only $27.
My only issue now is that I lose the speech recognition ability of the Fire TV remote, but I have yet to find any universal remote setup that can do that.
smithmal
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That remote sounds interesting. Does it work well with Fire TV? Like all the basic fire tv buttons are available? And are you using bluetooth or IR with a usb receiver?
smithmal said:
Here's another "All-In-One" universal remote option that will work for both standard IR devices and BT devices:
Blu-Link Universal Remote
This remotes can:
1. Act like a normal IR remote (i.e. it has a slew four digit codes to program the remote to work with your IR components)
2. Act like a BT remote (has a built in BT transmitter in it to work with BT devices such as gaming consoles, media boxes (Roku/Fire TV/Apple TV)
3. Has a learning functionality so that any button on your remote can be learned by the Blu-Link remote
(The user guide for the remote can be found here)
The best part is that the remote is only $27.
My only issue now is that I lose the speech recognition ability of the Fire TV remote, but I have yet to find any universal remote setup that can do that.
smithmal
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Did you actually manage to get the remote to show up? Every time I tried to pair it, nothing showed up. Also tried it on my nexus player without any luck...
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I did not. My initial understanding of the remote's capability was based off of erroneous information posted by an Amazon reviewer in the Q&A section for the product. Once obtaining the product I found out that the BT commands for the remote are specific only to the PS3 (i.e. the remote has no ability to "learn" new BT commands). Also, as you mentioned, the FireTV does not recognize it in pairing mode. For this reason, the remote would not work as I had hoped and I updated the Q&A product section on Amazon and sent it back.
My solution was to purchase a FLIRC dongle, download the FLIRC software to my PC, manually force the FLIRC to update its firmware (which is important as the firmware that originally installed with the software would not allow me to properly program the "back", "home" and "menu" buttons; this is done by downloading the latest firmware (which I believe is now v3.5) by following the instructions posted here), program the dongle with my IR remote (I settled on using the standard universal remote that comes with my TV) and then plug in the FLIRC dongle into the USB port of the FireTV.
After that, I had a "All-In-One" universal remote solution that would allow me to operate both my TV and FireTV with one remote.
smithmal
Hi all,
Decided to join here with the hope of getting some better help....
I've been happy with my atv2 running Frodo 12.2 for ages... but recently it has a habit of resetting itself when updating/reading in my media.
So I've decided to take the plunge and get hold of a FireTV, .... Now at the moment it has not been turned on yet, mainly because I know that as soon as I do it's going to auto update to the latest firmware.
It's at this time that i'm looking for some help/info/details....
1: Root is not something I'm that interested in, due to the amount of info knocking about that amazon may have the ability to knock out rooted ftv's. On the other hand the only thing I can think of that root would give me is the ability to have a proper kodi/spmc icon on the main screen. (please tell me if I have this totally wrong).
2: What are the benefits between "ADBfire" and the "Amazon firetv utility app"
3: would anyone say that helix 14.1 is any better than spmc 14.1?
4: and this is a biggie, I have read that reading a nas is a problem for the firetv, can anyone please give guidance on this subject, I have either a seagate nas or a WD "my cloud" available.
5: are there any good detailed guides/run throughs for sideloading xbmc or spmc, from start to finish.
6: I have seen mention of turning on both "ADB Debugging" and "apps from uknown sources" but in some videos I have only seen "ADB Debugging available", is the "apps from uknown sources" something that amazon removed or is this the difference between US and UK models.
7: Does either "ADBfire" or the "Amazon firetv utility app" come with ikonotv app ready to be installed.
Sorry if this is a long winded set of questions, and probably many might be thinking wtf...... but after looking at upteen videos and reading so many webpages with differing methods, it end's up just becoming confusing.
So if anyone out there can throw any help on my requests it would be very much appreciated.
p.s. there's bound to be some items that I've forgot, but I think I've managed to get across the gist of what I'm looking for.
Taken from someone who suffers from constant Tinnitus,..... It's a godsend having someone to ask for help...
I also come from an atv2 back ground and have never looked back. I use a wd cloud with my fire tv with no issues. The most important thing you'll need to do is block updates on your router. This will give you time to explore your root needs. Check out aftvnews.com for guides on everything. I use both fire tv utility's as they both have their strong sides. Both work well.
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Usb debugging is a must. Installing from unknown sources provides a little more convenience. Unknown sources option in Amazon menu is only available in later software. Spmc vs helix is a preference thing but kodi helix 14.1 is my preferred build as it's official kodi(previously xbmc) build. Also check out kodi wiki page for fire tv http://kodi.wiki/view/Amazon_Fire_TV. If you were able to jailbreak and install xbmc(kodi) on atv2 then this will be a breeze.
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1: Root is not something I'm that interested in...
I am running unrooted for the same reasons. I actually use some of the native functions of the FireTV that I do not want to lose. It was always a pain when I had the atv2 as I had to block all updates from Apple. IT became solely a XBMC box. I don't want to back myself into that corner again.
I used adbFire to use the Kodi icon over the ikonoTV app. It shows up in my "Recent" list towards the top of the screen on the FireTV. More on adbFire below.
2: What are the benefits between "ADBfire" and the "Amazon firetv utility app"
I don't know. adbFire has met all of my needs so far.
3: would anyone say that helix 14.1 is any better than spmc 14.1?
I am currently on Kodi 14.0. I have not tried SPMC, nor am I experiencing any problems with Kodi.
4: ...I have read that reading a nas is a problem...
I am using a mycloud. It works fine.
5: are there any good detailed guides...
I really don't remember if there was one that I particularly used. There are a lot our there. Also videos on YouTube.
6: ...is the "apps from uknown sources" something that amazon removed...
I don't know about this one. I'd have to check when I get home.
7: Does either "ADBfire" or the "Amazon firetv utility app" come with ikonotv app ready to be installed.
adbFire does not include ikonoTV. You can just download it from the Amazon app store.
Really appreciate your replies chaps.....
I'm very apprehensive about root, especially after reading these... (mods, I totally understand if these are deleted),
Sorry chaps I had 3 separate links to pages about amazon having the ability to brick/terminate rooted firetv's but due to my lack of posts I couldn't add them, (my mistake).
The one thing I noticed was that all of this information came about in the early part of dec 14, after that time it seemed to quieten down. So was this Amazon's attempt at scare mongering.
On another note this was the Nas that I was going to use, View attachment 3160886 the 3TB version.
at the moment my atv2 is using a 320gb 2.5" HD attached to the usb port on a Linksys e4200 router, using smb to read it. This is okay for only a small number of movies, say 30 to 40 and the same amount in tv shows, I have been using Ember MM to sort out the information to try and relieve the strain on the atv2.
On another note chaps, I read that Amazon have managed to bypass router blocked updates, it seems that even if I do block
amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net
softwareupdates.amazon.com
updates.amazon.com
from reading numerous posts it can still be bypassed and get updated.
I did watch one video where the chap pulled the lan cable just at the right time, thus bypassing the update, but it seems most people have a hell of a lot of trouble with this due to the firetv requiring more information.
The one good thing with the atv2 was the ability to ssh into it, and manually add the addresses via the hosts file.
I've been constantly reading, and looking at video's (seems a lot of them are more for the stick version), to the point where it becomes painful.
I have to say JB iphones/ipads does seem a lot easier. even my boys wii with his attached HD seemed easier, lol.
although if you saw the amount of printed information most people are shocked. When my bro in law asked about his son's Wii, I just said here ya go, hove a look through this 6" thick ringbinder.
I'm just one of those people that really want's to know what each step does so that I get a good understanding of the possible consequences of getting things wrong.
DO you guys use smb to read your WD nas boxes? I've read that the setup procedure is dire, and most end up contacting WD for help. It seem's WD's own setup software may not be that good.
Sorry for the long post but I wanted to explain how I felt about some of the pitfall's.
thanks chaps..
slackbladder... from the UK.
For guides,, aftvnews.com is the best place to go. They also have a getting started with your new FTV guide. They are also the most reliable source of info imho.
Thank's eskay993,
I never knew there was a serial decoder available,.... I often wondered if there was some way of being able to know what type of hardware one had by the serials on the outside of the packaging.
I stuck in my serial and it seems my unit "if the details are correct by the decoder" is unrootable....
Amazon Fire TV Serial Number Decoder
Rootable: No
Likely Software Version: 51.1.4.0
Manufactured: By Foxconn on 10/29/2014
Hardware Revision: 03
Unit Revision: 09
Condition (New or Refurbished): New
Note: This information may not be entirely accurate. Especially with recently manufactured devices.
4412+ 51.1.4.0 No
This would make sense as it was purchased only a week ago from a local PC World store in UK.
Although I am tempted to try the router block anyway just to see if I can get hold of the serial, although probably unlikely as it's going to need to go through it's registration first before I can get to use adbfire.exe.
On a side note chaps, the user's with WD My Cloud units,... did you have to sideload the WD My Cloud app to get these to work, or was you able to get kodi/xbmc to see your Nas units via smb?
Believe it or not, but this is the first time I have read anywhere that someone is actually using these units with xbmc.
Thanks for persevering with me.... you have no idea how helpful you all have been.
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On a side note chaps, the user's with WD My Cloud units,... did you have to sideload the WD My Cloud app to get these to work, or was you able to get kodi/xbmc to see your Nas units via smb?
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You do not need to sideload an app. In Kodi when you are adding a source, you will have multiple options for how you access the myCloud, depending what is enabled on the device. Available options include SMB, NFS, FTP, SFTP & UPnP,
Thank you for the reply thepartpricer,
Is there any particular preference to which would work best, .... I have always used smb, only because that was all there was available to me. (obviously because it was only an attached HD to router).
I have read varying arguments about what to use but they have never been about the WD units, it's mostly others talking about qnaps or synology units.
Some say that only ftp works, (Not looking forward to having to keep typing in username/passwords all the time).
And some have mentioned NFS, but not much information about upnp.
I understand that the WD unit is a upnp device, and from what I have read xbmc/kodi has a upnp server built in. So is this the same as when I use smb to see my attached HD, instead xbmc/kodi simply reads the information from the nas in a different way, but basically the same as smb.
I think I've got that totally wrong somehow.... In my head at 1.30am it kinda makes sense..... lol
At the moment I have 4 Folders, Movies, TV Shows, Music, and Photo's all on the one HD, and I get xbmc to scrape each one as necessary.
But some of the videos I have watched, it's not quite as simple as that when using a Nas, Does one make the same folders all within the Share (Shared folder)...
Thank you for any reply's responses..
slackbladder..
Hi Slackbladder,
Coming form an atv2 myself, I can just say that the Fire TV is better in many ways - Kodi/XBMC searches quicker and seems much more responsive (and runs at 1080p). On atv2 it was getting quite slow at times. Of course, this all relies on Amazon continuing to let folk side-load apps. I live in the UK and my Fire TV was unrootable as well but now I have the Kodi icon on the home page it works as good as I would like. Also, there's apps that can be downloaded making the Fire TV much more inclusive than the atv2. I'm currently using Amazon Prime trial as well and am impressed by the streaming quality of the HD films (as well as getting my orders next day)!
So long as Kodi continues to work than it's the Fire TV I'll be using going forward. However, I do keep my atv2 plugged in because its mirroring/airplay functionality is better with my iPhone than the Fire TV (and it's nice to know I have a backup). Worth pointing out that I've read rumors somewhere that Apple will allow SDK development on atv3 sometime soon, which might allow Kodi to be loaded that way. However, when/if that happens I don't know.
Leedsgreen
Thanks for the reply Leedsgreen,
Are you just net streaming or have you got any type of Nas with your own content?
That would be blinding if Apple allow it,.... Can't see it happening myself, but it would be good,..... Just imagine the price of all those £50 atv3's suddenly shooting up to the £200 mark... lol
Yep, the misses is already thinking about taking out prime, only cos she orders a lot of stuff of there.
Decided to try and get myself a Logitech k400 keyboard, as I've read that they work well with the firetv.... So the guy in PC World has a quick look on his system and goes directly to amazon's U.S. store,... He see's on their site that they retail at $20,... So I said to him "that works out at about 30 notes then"... his reply was, "that's not possible" "we should have that in stock for about £15...." So I asked him to show me one,... he came back with a rather sad look on his face, and said sorry, there marked up at £27.15p... I said "I told you mate, and I don't even work in here", He even tried to get some money off for me, but it was a no go...
you've just got to luv the u.k. NOT.
HI Slackbladder,
Yeah, streaming to Kodi on AFTV via MyBookLive NAS with no problems at all. Just set up the link and it's worked since without issue. Apple TV3 up to £200 lol! Have to sell timing of my ATV2 just right
I've actually bought the Logitech K400r keyboard - overall very good (if blomin' expensive). Needed it to work Sky Go app which is sweet. Very responsive but pinch-to-zoom doesn't work on track pad, which is a bit of a pain (i.e. for angry birds). Turns out this is a common issue for android devices with many keyboards - would be good to know if anyone knows anything different?
Yeah, does annoy me how expensive UK is but I did get my Fire TV for £63 on Amazon promotion (as it should be)!
Leedsgreen
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HI Slackbladder,
Yeah, streaming to Kodi on AFTV via MyBookLive NAS with no problems at all. Just set up the link and it's worked since without issue. Apple TV3 up to £200 lol! Have to sell timing of my ATV2 just right
I've actually bought the Logitech K400r keyboard - overall very good (if blomin' expensive). Needed it to work Sky Go app which is sweet. Very responsive but pinch-to-zoom doesn't work on track pad, which is a bit of a pain (i.e. for angry birds). Turns out this is a common issue for android devices with many keyboards - would be good to know if anyone knows anything different?
Yeah, does annoy me how expensive UK is but I did get my Fire TV for £63 on Amazon promotion (as it should be)!
Leedsgreen
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Hi Leedsgreen,
Sorry for the late reply.... but I've only just seen in the last 24 hours that amazon has returned to there £64 price....
Just wanted to know mate, but are you non-rooted and get the latest firmware update from amazon? I only ask as I've heard it's been causing a few problems, such as units not turning back on after a reboot, and other numerous problems with kodi sideloaded.
Appreciate replies,..... as i'm going to try to set mine up this weekend and wanted to be aware of any pitfalls.
cheers
slackbladder..
Hi Slackbladder,
No probs. I can confirm that my Fire TV is unrooted but is still on 51.1.4.2 (and not the latest 51.1.4.3 firmware). I've managed to stop (so far!) the update by blocking the URL links to software update pages on my router. It's not an exact science so I trolled the internet for every URL to block (starting with those on AFTVnews). So far, my AFTV has stayed at 51.1.4.2 so I can't tell you how things would work on 51.1.4.3
However, it's likely that any you buy in UK will still be on 51.1.4.1 or earlier and so long as you block updates then you should be OK.
Hope this helps,
Leedsgreen
Thanks for the reply Leedsgreen,
I've been doing some more searching and came across these to block updates via router method,
amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net
softwareupdates.amazon.com
updates.amazon.com
atv-ext.amazon.com
amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net
a1910.d.akamai.net
hopefully I shouldn't have any problems with my linksys e4200.
Have you any others blocked as well? (I don't know how true this is but also read that amazon can now bypass blocks and units are being updated).
I read that on first time installation a ftv box will automatically try to get the latest firmware, and if it cannot it will not allow the user to continue with the installation.
This would make sense if a newly purchased unit came with a more recent firmware already installed, if this is true how would one get to continue with the installation?
on a sidenote, did you decide to stick to 5.1.1.4.2 in the hope that root may become available?
I have to admit that it isn't made any easier now that I've read the only way to root is via solder method,.... the last time I did a solder job was on the PS1.... lol
Even worse the wifey likes the idea of "prime" so I've no idea what will happen, even if I can get to keep the unit from updating.
I did have one idea, and that was to buy a second unit and allow it to be updated and then sideload, but then realized that with the blocks in place I'm back to square one.
cheers for any ideas....
slackbladder..
Hi Slackbladder,
First of all, on my router I've got all the URLs blocked that you list as well as:
firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com
bueller-ota
montoya-ota
I think the last two are the starting strings for the update address for both Fire TV and Fire TV Stick. So far I'm still on 51.1.4.2 and think it's working. Amazon Prime runs great at the moment so no probs there.
As to rooting - yes, I'm keen to keep on 51.1.4.2 in case it comes possible but not sure if it ever will. I've also heard 51.1.4.3 now places advert banners (on home page) and leaders on Prime films/shows so I want to avoid that if possible. However, some say that will happen regardless of firmware - I'm not sure. Soldering is only for the Fire TV Stick I believe and not necessary to root the Fire TV. Anyway, on an impulse I've just ordered another Fire TV from the states of eBay. It's advertised as being on 51.1.1.0 (and I've also written to confirm) so is rootable. With postage it's cost me £95. TBH I'm not sure what rooting will give me but I like a bit of a challenge and fancy giving it a go!
Have you checked the guides on AFTV webpage? There's good tutorials there about turning AFTV on for first time and avoiding updates etc and I think you'll get some good info there. I don't have the tech knowledge to really advise but I reckon so long as you trick the system (and unplug the Ethernet cable at just the right time) the Fire TV eventually gives up trying to update and just goes to the next part of the load sequence. (No doubt I'll be itching to know how exactly to do this when my new Fire TV comes and will be asking you how you did it)!!
With best wishes,
Leedsgreen
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Hi Slackbladder,
First of all, on my router I've got all the URLs blocked that you list as well as:
firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com
bueller-ota
montoya-ota
I think the last two are the starting strings for the update address for both Fire TV and Fire TV Stick. So far I'm still on 51.1.4.2 and think it's working. Amazon Prime runs great at the moment so no probs there.
As to rooting - yes, I'm keen to keep on 51.1.4.2 in case it comes possible but not sure if it ever will. I've also heard 51.1.4.3 now places advert banners (on home page) and leaders on Prime films/shows so I want to avoid that if possible. However, some say that will happen regardless of firmware - I'm not sure. Soldering is only for the Fire TV Stick I believe and not necessary to root the Fire TV. Anyway, on an impulse I've just ordered another Fire TV from the states of eBay. It's advertised as being on 51.1.1.0 (and I've also written to confirm) so is rootable. With postage it's cost me £95. TBH I'm not sure what rooting will give me but I like a bit of a challenge and fancy giving it a go!
Have you checked the guides on AFTV webpage? There's good tutorials there about turning AFTV on for first time and avoiding updates etc and I think you'll get some good info there. I don't have the tech knowledge to really advise but I reckon so long as you trick the system (and unplug the Ethernet cable at just the right time) the Fire TV eventually gives up trying to update and just goes to the next part of the load sequence. (No doubt I'll be itching to know how exactly to do this when my new Fire TV comes and will be asking you how you did it)!!
With best wishes,
Leedsgreen
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Cannot believe my luck...... Poxy router....
It seems that amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net is just 1 letter short.... hope i can post an image of what my router software looks like:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I'm fairly sure this is the only page avaialble to allow blocking....
Yes mate, I've been going through the "How to complete the Fire TV Initial Setup without Updating" at aftvnews (but without actually doing it yet)... if that makes sense...
I thought I would start with the router first, but it looks like that's a no go....
The last thing I want is advertising.....
The only other item is "Parental controls" but if I try this one, one has to choose an object connected to the router, I.E. ATV2, Ipad, or anything else connected.
At first this seemed a possability, but I would have to have the firetv connected and turned on to be seen on this page, and thus probably get updated.
We really should be allowed to block unnecessary updates if we want to.... (I know atv2 pushes them as well). But I used to have a Thompson Freeview box that used to push updates, but it had a backup firmware onboard if anything went titsup, problem is it would eventually add the new FW to the backup, That's how my box ended up dying.... not my fault but the fault of the manufacturer pushing ****ty FW. But they did say for £50 I could send it back and they would re-flash it for me.... ~a~kers.
Hi Slackbladder,
That's just what happened for me on my Huawei rooter - there wasn't quite enough space for the full amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net URL. In the end, I entered it twice: once with amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite and once with edgesuite.net that has seemed to do the trick. For example, I played around with amazon.co.uk and various variations of and it appeared that so long as amazon was in the string somewhere then I couldn't go shopping online! Anyway, hopefully you will get something to work and block those pesky updates!
Leedsgreen
updateYep that's the only one I'm having a problem with.... amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net what I end up with is amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.ne
and no amount of inputting is going to make much difference.
I would have tried the openDNS way, I've found lots of posts/pages mentioning to do it this way but no actual setup procedure.
I'm only guessing that one would choose the "for personal" section, and then "parental control" (get started) and then Sign up now, for "OpenDNS Home" free.
Well I've opened an account with them, and chose the item I would like to block, (my home router) It then gave me a selection of routers, of of which is linksys.
instructions are as follows:
2. Go to the "Setup" menu.
Click on the “Setup” tab.
3. Go to the "Basic Setup" page.
Click the “Basic Setup” page.
4. Enter the first DNS resolver.
Enter 208.67.222.222 in the “Static DNS 1” field.
5. Enter the second DNS resolver.
Enter 208.67.220.220 in the “Static DNS 2” field.
6. Enter the third DNS resolver.
Enter 208.67.222.220 in the “Static DNS 3” field.
that all seems quite easy,.... but how do you block the updates......
Any chaps out there like to help a hopeless individual please...
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Well after much head scratching I finally found out how to block individual addresses,... Had to come down to the very bottom of the page below the list of items most people would pick, such as,.... well you get the gist, there's a load of items one can have opendns to automatically block.
but right at the bottom there a part where one can pick single entry's to add.
so I added each one of these,
amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net
softwareupdates.amazon.com
updates.amazon.com
Don't know if they need a www or http or anything else in front of them I just added them as they are,
I opened portable ffox and tested each one and there blocked. (Don't really know how the firetv is going to get on though, will try it tomorrow).
one choice opendns did give me was to block anything with the word amazon in it, (I thought probably not a good idea).
updateHi Leedsgreen,
I decided to go with just the three :
amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net
softwareupdates.amazon.com
updates.amazon.com
using opendns,..... then took the plunge, plugged in the unit to tv, plugged in the psu, but left out the lan,.... unit booted up and went to a screen asking for my language, (I think there were 3 to choose from, German, english, (and one i cannot remember)... I chose english and it then asked for what wifi i wanted to join.
at this point i plugged in the lan, I held the unit and the very second the light turned white i pulled the lan,.... the unit went straight to the reg screen, i then re-attached the lan and put in reg details.
I am a little optimistic about vermin media though.... I may have a static ip now, but I know from the past that they do change my ip about every 4 to 6 months,.... the only reason I know is because Zonealarm flags it to let me know.
I tried the "Select & Play" buttons to turn off the unit, which initially it did, .... for about 10 seconds, it then turned itself back on and the amazon swish came back on the screen,.... So I did the button again and this time turned it off at the mains.
I have read somewhere that the Logitech K400 will turn off the fire tv, (I guess sleep mode) same as atv2, with Fn+Esc,..... but I'm wondering if it will just do the same as "Select & Play".
I went through some basics, I thought the screensaver was okayish..... some of the pictures had some weird fringing, a kind of shimmering on them,.... So I changed the default res to 1080p at 60hz but made no difference.... Might be better at 50hz?.
I did try to get a Logitech bluetooth keyboard that I use with an ipad to use with the ftv but the ftv could not see it,.... so it may be down to getting a k400.
My next step is to sideload kodi, I'm keeping everything croosed that it doesn't go tits up. I'm also thinking about getting some type of hdmi multi port thing, so I can keep my atv2 going over wifi, but most I have looked at don't live up to the hype... 5 good reviews 50 bad... lol
Honestly I cannot believe my luck.... Firmware that I am holding onto is 51.1.4.0_user_51400520
Seems like no kodi for me then.... Is it true that kodi is not compatible with this version?
update and i bet i'll get the dreaded banner ads..
Hi Slackbladder,
Glad that Fire TV turned on OK and you managed to block updates. However, sorry to hear that's it's on 51.1.4.0_user_51400520. I didn't realise there is an issue with it and Kodi (as a quick search on the internet says). One thing to check is if the annoying advert banner does come with 51.1.4.3 or to all Fire TV's regardless of firmware? I've heard conflicting messages on this. Maybe blocking the URL update sites also blocks the adverts, maybe not?
I have the Logitech K400 keyboard that does work well (but more expense of course). I also recently bought an HDMI switcher off Amazon. I bought one without a remote control (have too many of those already!) and it has worked well so far.
Anyway, let us know if you manage to get Kodi to work on 51.1.4.0 and/or if you update to latest firmware if the ad banner pops up. Fingers crossed!
Leedsgreen
I hate to create a new thread with similar questions as others but none of the other threads seem to specifically address my question.
Is there a way to use the android phone to emulate a bluetooth keyboard/mouse functionality that simply pairs with other devices. I know there are many client/server applications but with regards to Fire TV Stick I just want to use the setting.apk and pair my phone to it. I have searched high and low but can't seem to find anything which makes me believe there is something inherent to that feature I don't understand which makes it not possible.
I have several apps sideloaded to Fire stick (Xfinity TV) requiring mouse and keyboard functionality. I can't find an efficient way to do this with my phone instead of buying more hardware (bluetooth keyboard/mouse).
Thanks!
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I hate to create a new thread with similar questions as others but none of the other threads seem to specifically address my question.
Is there a way to use the android phone to emulate a bluetooth keyboard/mouse functionality that simply pairs with other devices. I know there are many client/server applications but with regards to Fire TV Stick I just want to use the setting.apk and pair my phone to it. I have searched high and low but can't seem to find anything which makes me believe there is something inherent to that feature I don't understand which makes it not possible.
I have several apps sideloaded to Fire stick (Xfinity TV) requiring mouse and keyboard functionality. I can't find an efficient way to do this with my phone instead of buying more hardware (bluetooth keyboard/mouse).
Thanks!
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Maybe something like this will help....
http://www.aftvnews.com/remote-mouse-app-released-for-fire-tv-fire-tv-stick/
Its like 2 bucks. It has both KB and mouse functionality. Not sure how good it is, I have no experience with it.
If you just need keyboard functionality, you can get by with Amazon's official app which is free...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.amazon.storm.lightning.client.aosp&hl=en
EDIT: I re-read and understand you want native BT functionality to pair your android device. I have not come across anything like that. But, you can use the app which will let you ditch your hardware keyboard, but comes with extra steps of firing up the app and having your device and FTV on the same wireless network.
I just tried out the Free Wukong TV remote app from Google Play Store. It works to control the FTV Stick and has a mouse mode that lets you use the screen as a left click. I tried it in Xfinity To Go app and Old Slingplayer tablet app that needed a mouse to select options. It works but you need to switch between mouse mode and d pad mode. It's pretty easy to switch from the app.
The Wukong app once you install on your phone and then make sure you are on the same wifi network as the Stick and enter IP of Stick or press Scan network. It will install a Wukong Remote server app on the stick. Once that is installed restart your stick and try to connect. The on the upper right is a button to switch between remote styles ie keyboard, dpad, touchpad, mouse mode.
There is a Wukong keyboard app that you can install from the phone also which lets you input text in Stick using your phone virtual keyboard. I tried it and it works and is better than using the Stick remote. However I get scared of using that app to put usernames and passwords because this app is from China and who knows if they are keeping that information.
I ended up taking the Wukong of my daily use phone and put it on a a cheapie $10 Android phone. Works great and I feels safer that this app can't be logging my information.
You could try 'True Mouse/KB' in play store, it adds Bluetooth HID device profile to your phone.
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.z2software.btpluginhidd
I have a FTV2 rooted to 5.2.1.1 using the guide at atvnews. I have installed Kodi and configured it to my liking. Im using HDMI cable to connect it to directly to my Harman Kardon AVR-154 input HDMI3. I have used this port for other devices and I can get surround sound so I know the port works on the receiver. Im also running Kodi 16.2 Jarvis.
Anyhow, I cant get digital audio to come through my speakers from the AVR unit. I have sound coming out from the TV. My TV is a Samsung unit, it has CEC enabled and it locates the FTV2 unit.
I have logged into Kodi and enabled pass through and enabled digital receiver option as well. On my receiver, I have HDMI3 selected and regardless of the digital output option selected, there is no audio coming out of my speakers when a movie is being played. Is there any option or setting I can change to get this working?
When I checked audio on the FTV its set to Digital Output through HDMI.
Finally, another issue I am having is the original remote not being able to be paired with my FTV2. Im using a USB hub, so I have a physical keyboard connected to it and am able to navigate through the menus this way but would like to have my original remote working. I have tried the system options method and its not working.
Any suggestions to my two issues?
google firetv kodi sorround (first result on xda, even has pictures)
google firetv pair remote (look for the reddit thread)
Also, don't expect anyone to care that you connected your FireTV to HDMI port 3, and that your AV reciever outputs "digital audio" to your speakers (doubt it), or which Harman Cardon receiver you bought. Chances are you will not find anyone in here with the same setup to be able to replicate your issue, so you have to start thinking and breaking down the issue yourself.
The internet is not a free support tech, that will stand in you living room and mutter "have you tried port 2 instead":
It s the "can someone fix my home router" issue all over again. Connectivity issues are hard to "phone in solutions for". It is your responsibility to try to understand and solve them, not ours. Never expect custom made solutions for your equipment, your port configuration, and so on. It's not going to happen.
Other people troubleshooting your issue (I'm refering to the xda thread I'm having you look up yourself) have installed different Kodi builds (SMPC) and even switched AVRs to pinpoint the issue. Maybe try some of that yourself. (After reading the thread I am refering to).
Also - use google. Keep questions at least somewhat concise. Show that you have tried to tackle the issue yourself (including google). If your remote turns out to be broken (in the reddit thread you find the button press thats needed to put it in pair mode), don't ask XDA for help, thats a product support question...
ALso, nothing of what you describe has anything to do with being rooted, so the title is misleading.
Hopefully a bit more useful then the post above.. (If thats all you had to say, then, why bother responding in the first place?)
1) To the Remote.... AFAIK the Remote that comes with the AFTV2 is some 802.11 WiFi job that only works with the AFTV(2)? It is NOT to be confused with the older Bluetooth Remote (AFTV1), which as I understand does not have the Mic on it. Sadly I have the latter Device, and the way to pair it is to depress the Home Button for 20s. Yes the on-screen instructions say 10s but in my experience that's BS! You'll know that the Remote is pairing when the throbbing white light turns yellow-brown. Before going back to white, and disappearing all together.
As to your Audio Setup... Have you made sure to go into System > Settings > System (Making sure to have activated the 'Expert' Settings level), then; Audio output
Number of Channels - 2.0 (Yes this must always be 2.0 for everything to work!)
Enable Passthrough (Obviously)
Dolby Digital (AC3) capable, and
-Enable Dolby Digital (AC3) Transcoding
This may be the cause of your problems. In short you have to enable this IF you have an older Amp such as myself which does NOT support PCM Multichannel Audio. (Something which is AFAIK only available over HDMI e.g. Dolby HD & DTS-MA*), you will NOT want to enable this. Otherwise if you have to use the older S/PDIF (Optical or, Coaxial), to drive your Amp, in my case though my TVs ARC (Audio Return Channel), e.g. the S/PDIF Out is on the TV. Then you must enable it their.
One other note here Depending on your TV, you may also have to troll though the Audio Settings there and, locate the Digital Out Setting (Or whatever passes for that Setting on your set.), and either set it to PCM, or Compressed. In my setup it has to be compressed for DD/DTS to work
DTS capable receiver should probably also be ticked.
Now to test it...
I would recommend you find the Big Buck Bunny Add-on, since it covers a broader range of parameters. Resolution, 3D, Audio Formats which seems to be your chief concern here. I could also just toss out their that IceFilms also has mostly 720p HD Shows, and Movies as well and more often then not also in DD5.1. though the latter is less shady then the former, even if it's less practical. But, unless you have some idea of where to find HQ Stuff with DD5.1 or DTS, then chances are it will certainly only be an AAC 2.0 Stream. Which of course will never be in Surround.
*If your AMP for NOT support either DD-HD, or DTS-MA, then it may be safe to assume that it also doesn't not support PCM Audio either. In which case you'll need to readjust your settings to use the S/PDIF settings instead.
Congratulations, you just spelled out the entire posting I suggested the OP googles for once again, in regards to the correct pass through settings.
(To be fair, you went into more detail regarding PCM Audio vs other Kodi Audio options, than even the original thread.)
You spelled out that to re-pair the remote, you have to press the home key for 20 seconds. Which the OP would have learned by googling firetv pair remote, in five seconds on their own.
I do not assume the OP is struggling with a Fire TV 1 remote, also - the AFTV2 doesn't have a SPDIF out anymore.
To be honest, somewhere after "I rooted my Fire TV", "I put the cable in HDMI 3", and "my Harman Kardon sends digital audio to my speakers" - I lost all patience with the a guy that needed Kodi settings he could have googled in 5 minutes and an instruction on how to get the remote into pairing mode, which he could have googled in 5 seconds.
You are a better man than I am - I would have liked to see the OP go the long route to get to the same answers...
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Two other nice things to learn from this:
- Make the posting title descriptive, and not the first thing thats comes to your mind, or a bait and switch that ultimately has nothing to do with your question. Other people might search this forum for the same issue - and a descriptive title helps them not to have to ask the question again, and that means that we don't have to answer it again - because presumably most people can be asked to google an issue, before resorting to a personal help request.
- Show that you took some effort to pinpoint the issue first. If your request starts with a description of your living room, something urks me as being wrong. Don't name your AV reciever, but take the time to learn which audio standards it supports. Don't state, that the Fire TV hangs on HDMI 3 - but take the time to test the other HDMI ports so you can exclude that one as the cause of your problems..
Basics.
Also - leaning how to do basic troubleshooting using google on your own - isn't necessarily a bad thing, because the next time you won't be describing your livingroom to people on the internet again, if you should have a different issue.
Don't assume, we like doing the legwork (what audio standards does his receiver support, yes - lets play Amazon support and tell him how to pair his remote (because of course you didn't consult the manual (page 43 btw: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/customerdocumentation/Amazon_Fire_TV_User_Guide.pdf ) or google).
I did use google and even reddit and was recommended to come here by someone.
I wasnt looking for a step-by-step guide, merely if someone else had a similar issue. By pointing out my hardware, perhaps someone ran into a different issue with the same make or even model of AVR unit. But I was simply hoping for some direction or what I could check and test for.
I simply asked for insight or what I could look for, not to have a reply that really wasnt necessary.
And by mentioning root and HDMI 3, you set the perimeters to make sure that, ...
Its ok - you won.
Someone did provide a detailed solution.
Just understand, that if you had found the surround sound settings topic before, Ichijoes explanation would now possibly be visible there, where future users would find it more easily. In a thread named "Im rooted and have two issues" - they probably won't look.
Also, just as an aside and not meant as a passive agressive poke - AV recievers have to be interoperable with other equipments. Thats where standards come in (which audio standards does mine support, which audio format do I want from Kodi...) -- so it actually is worth the time to "learn them". They basically are what also the manufacturer is "betting on", so he has a market he can sell into.
The chance that someone also owns the exact same equipment and has solved exactly your problem before, and now happens to see your thread - is always very low with all interoperability/connectivity stuff. Understand that there are maybe a dozen of people floating around in a forum like this who can and might be willing to do even basic trouble shooting for you. Maybe 100s if you add the educated lurkers out there who might chime in, when they see an issue they have solved in the past.
Thats your "pool" for the off chance - "maybe you have the same equipment and issue as I do" bet. And usually it means, that you arent successfull with it. Now if you just ask the standards question (even on the level of "I cant get surround sound - what could be the culprit") your chances increase manyfold.
So whenever I see a "i have a A and a B, and they don't work - I've already restarted the device" usually not only does it read to me as "doesn't know the basics", it also screams "doesnt wan't to learn, wan'ts product support". Now while this is a product forum (and XDA also sees the people in here as a product support community) -- people in here usually don't see themselves as product support assistants.
Again - not saying this in an aggressive tone, this is the post-battle talk - about details that will eventually be lost, when this thread leaves the first pages.
Standards matter. Showing that you'd much rather "learn" than to get your problem solved matters as well. At least to me... But then, what do I know...
So friend gave me a FireTV Stick, brand new (Fire OS 5.2.6.3 (606754020), Fire TV Home Version 6.0.0.6-127).
Little desire to deal with Amazon, need to enable USB Debugging & ADB. Gotten as far as Fire App on Phone to bypass Registration to get to Settings-Device-Options, held Center/Down to Enable X-Ray, Developer Options Hidden Menu etc, but can not find any way to Access USB Debugging or ADB to enable them. When you enable Developer Options, only thing it does is give option clear Recorded Metrics whatever. Enabled it, rebooted, disabled it rebooted, re-enabled etc etc, only option I get is to clear recorded metrics.
Tried several diff ways, nothing can recognize it ADB as I can't enable it, tried USB to PC, it recognizes FireTV Stick, can see whats on the Drive or SD Card, but again, can't send files to it without USB Debugging. Rooted every Android Toy I own, not new to this, but has me stumped.
How do you enable USB Debugging or ADB to a FireTV Stick with latest OS without ever Registering it? As far as Normal stuff, it hooks to Network fine (behind Firewall & VPN), but won't Update, why if you go with the Fire App on phone, you can "pair" and get as far as Option to Access Hidden Developer Options etc, but no USB Debugging or ADB Enable Option is there.
Never messed with one, was more a sort of Gag Gift for a favor he owed me, so said why not, lets see what all the fuss over these things is, I wanna tinker with it.
You can always de-register the device from your Amazon dashboard after setting it up for the first time.
I remember reading in another post, someone describing the exact same situation.
Using the app to skip registration and discovering there was no option to enable adb debugging.
Sounds like they may have fixed that.
I noticed in 5.2.6.3 the same security feature Amazon has implemented to detour people from buying and selling blacklisted devices. I have spent more time than I would like to admit trying to find a loophole, but without the ability to enable abd and unknown sources it seems impossible. I hate to say this but Amazon has it locked down and if anyone could figure it out they would have to someone on xda but no one I know has jad a clue. I don't condone theft one bit, but love a challenge and this one has me stumped.
Well, part of the fun, lol. Voice in my head keeps saying the Fire App, has to be a way, but not seeing it as yet. Did read where someone built a special HDMI setup and over loaded the OS, prompting a a "bootloader" screen and got in that way somehow, but far beyond me and said the parts to build it were like $150, let alone knowing what to solder to what etc, beyond my capabilities.
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Well, part of the fun, lol. Voice in my head keeps saying the Fire App, has to be a way, but not seeing it as yet. Did read where someone built a special HDMI setup and over loaded the OS, prompting a a "bootloader" screen and got in that way somehow, but far beyond me and said the parts to build it were like $150, let alone knowing what to solder to what etc, beyond my capabilities.
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Honestly its fun and has also become consuming trying to find any way to get past each screen lol. I heard the same voice in the past and it worked lol. Now with these 5.2.6.3 2nd gen firesticks I have no way to get to Dev options and with the 4k firesticks it says my login is incorrect to Amazon, and as I previously mentioned I am pretty much out of ideas. Overload HDMI huh? Sounds interesting. Well back to the drawing board for now and If I learn anything I will let you know.
Well, Fire App in my head, dont know why, just keeps coming back to me. Not a programmer, not a Droid, Hacker type, but thinking this way, feel free to tell me Nope, won't work and this is why.
How does it pair with FTV Stick etc? Not Bluetooth etc, so how does it connect? Possible to take Fire App and tinker with code, add some/modify code or a script etc to modify it and get further into FTV OS 5?
Or thinking again, don't know, but seems with a Laptop on say WiFi Network, just like Droid, Iphone, with a Virtual Machine, know Virtual Box you can set up about any Android setup ya want.
So setup a Virtual Machine, tinker with Fire App in some way, and if Laptop can connect to FTV , well, just idea in my head that must be away to get around it, or at least with a Laptop would open many more options to try & beat it. Havent tried this yet, just keeps floating around in my head, may not even connect to a Virtual Machine, maybe over weekend I'll tinker with that a bit.
Somebody who programs etc would know far more on topic, but same idea keeps bouncing around in my mind. Could be dead wrong, maybe they have that locked down to, but guys here, well, how many "can't hack" toys have they already beat, lol.
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Well, Fire App in my head, dont know why, just keeps coming back to me. Not a programmer, not a Droid, Hacker type, but thinking this way, feel free to tell me Nope, won't work and this is why.
How does it pair with FTV Stick etc? Not Bluetooth etc, so how does it connect? Possible to take Fire App and tinker with code, add some/modify code or a script etc to modify it and get further into FTV OS 5?
Or thinking again, don't know, but seems with a Laptop on say WiFi Network, just like Droid, Iphone, with a Virtual Machine, know Virtual Box you can set up about any Android setup ya want.
So setup a Virtual Machine, tinker with Fire App in some way, and if Laptop can connect to FTV , well, just idea in my head that must be away to get around it, or at least with a Laptop would open many more options to try & beat it. Havent tried this yet, just keeps floating around in my head, may not even connect to a Virtual Machine, maybe over weekend I'll tinker with that a bit.
Somebody who programs etc would know far more on topic, but same idea keeps bouncing around in my mind. Could be dead wrong, maybe they have that locked down to, but guys here, well, how many "can't hack" toys have they already beat, lol.[/QUOTE=matafact;78395384]
I wish I knew how to use tasker. Im a newbie but your ideas are great and have me thinking the remote app is the key, but it is a task I do not know how to execute.
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