So I'm looking to purchase an LG G3, however I wanted a unlocked model without carrier bloatware. I'd like to be able to use it with AT&T LTE. IWhat's my best option?
Michael1211 said:
So I'm looking to purchase an LG G3, however I wanted a unlocked model without carrier bloatware. I'd like to be able to use it with AT&T LTE. IWhat's my best option?
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1) you buy the at&t one, root and delete the bloatware
2) you buy the international one
Unlocked is about the state of the bootloader and I thing you ment something else, if you need a unlocked bootloader try the T-mobile version.
Bought an unlocked Samsung Note 4 SM-910A via Ebay from a reseller in Ottawa. Android 5.1.1. It works with my prepaid Koodo (Telus discount service) sim card. (Originally had to return a SM-910T that was blacklisted.) The problem is the phone is AT&T bloatware heavy.
Then I discovered after much reading of this site and the Androidcentral site that the bootloader cannot be unlocked so the AT&T version of the Note 4 cannot be rooted and therefore it is impossible to flash a custom ROM.
I also read that the temp roots on this SM-910A are not stable.
Is there way to use temp root to permanently delete or move AT&T and other unwanted files to a temporary app subdirectory and not have the effort reversed every time I restart the phone?
Suggestions? Or should I simply try to exchange it/get a refund?
Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) from the Play Store is your best bet.
I bought Package Disabler Pro Samsung
Thanks jibjab90.
So I just bought a Verizon Pixel XL off ebay with the intention of using it on T-Mobile because I was under the impression that taking it to T-Mobile was no issue and would be no different than using a google store one on T-Mobile. Although I am reading some concerning threads about the bootloader issue. If this phone happens to have 7.11 will I be unable to flash the T-Mobile factory image onto it? Or is there really no benefit in doing this anyway? Do I and will I be able to flash at least the T-Mobile radio over to it?
Then if it is before 7.11 and I unlock the bootloader right away can I keep it unlocked even if I play around with images and stuff such as trying out the O beta? or do I have to avoid Factory images once its unlocked and only use custom roms?
Thanks in advanced!
tuxdreamerx said:
So I just bought a Verizon Pixel XL off ebay with the intention of using it on T-Mobile because I was under the impression that taking it to T-Mobile was no issue and would be no different than using a google store one on T-Mobile. Although I am reading some concerning threads about the bootloader issue. If this phone happens to have 7.11 will I be unable to flash the T-Mobile factory image onto it? Or is there really no benefit in doing this anyway? Do I and will I be able to flash at least the T-Mobile radio over to it?
Then if it is before 7.11 and I unlock the bootloader right away can I keep it unlocked even if I play around with images and stuff such as trying out the O beta? or do I have to avoid Factory images once its unlocked and only use custom roms?
Thanks in advanced!
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Only thing that matters is if the origin of the phone is Verizon or Google.
If the origin is Google you can install the Google factory image and use it on anywhere, unlock the bootloader, root and have a grand old time.
If the origin is Verizon you are relegated to the Verizon image regardless of where you use the phone, no flashing for you.
Compare the build code of your phone to the build codes on google factory image website and you will know what you have.
good luck
parakleet said:
Only thing that matters is if the origin of the phone is Verizon or Google.
If the origin is Google you can install the Google factory image and use it on anywhere, unlock the bootloader, root and have a grand old time.
If the origin is Verizon you are relegated to the Verizon image regardless of where you use the phone, no flashing for you.
Compare the build code of your phone to the build codes on google factory image website and you will know what you have.
good luck
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Well this was a display model I guess, no specifics on what kind of store but its listed as being a Verizon model. So I may be SOL. As far as working on T-Mobile if that is the case are there any downsides to using the Verizon model aside from flashing?
tuxdreamerx said:
Well this was a display model I guess, no specifics on what kind of store but its listed as being a Verizon model. So I may be SOL. As far as working on T-Mobile if that is the case are there any downsides to using the Verizon model aside from flashing?
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Verizon model is fine for what the phone is.
You shouldn't have any issues using it on T-Mobile USA . Verizon phones are sim unlocked . The only thing with the Verizon version is that if it had the update where they don't let the bootloader unlock then you can't unlock it and root. Besides that you can use it on TMobile as a regular Google phone.
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parakleet said:
Only thing that matters is if the origin of the phone is Verizon or Google.
If the origin is Google you can install the Google factory image and use it on anywhere, unlock the bootloader, root and have a grand old time.
If the origin is Verizon you are relegated to the Verizon image regardless of where you use the phone, no flashing for you.
Compare the build code of your phone to the build codes on google factory image website and you will know what you have.
good luck
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This is partially false, I'm using a Verizon pixel XL on TMO and when I dropped out of beta, Google rolled out the TMO branch to my phone.
If you can depixl8 it and unlock the bootloader, you can flash custom Roms or the factory images to your heart's desire with no issues. Just never relock the bootloader, since it won't be able to be unlocked again(if it truly is a Verizon pixel XL)
parakleet said:
Only thing that matters is if the origin of the phone is Verizon or Google.
If the origin is Google you can install the Google factory image and use it on anywhere, unlock the bootloader, root and have a grand old time.
If the origin is Verizon you are relegated to the Verizon image regardless of where you use the phone, no flashing for you.
Compare the build code of your phone to the build codes on google factory image website and you will know what you have.
good luck
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You can sideload updates to a locked device so OP could sideload a current ota from tmobile. It can in fact beneficial to run the tmobile software on tmo because of optimizations for network connectivity
If you haven't updated it yet and its version is older than last November, you should be able to unlock the bootloader. Once it's been updated to a newer version, it can't be unlocked.
JimSmith94 said:
If you haven't updated it yet and its version is older than last November, you should be able to unlock the bootloader. Once it's been updated to a newer version, it can't be unlocked.
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I have a BL unlocked, Verizon rooted Pixel XL. Can I put an ATT sim card in it and use it on the ATT network? Would I need to flash a different rom?
STraver said:
I have a BL unlocked, Verizon rooted Pixel XL. Can I put an ATT sim card in it and use it on the ATT network? Would I need to flash a different rom?
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Should be able to just pop in the ATT sim
JimSmith94 said:
If you haven't updated it yet and its version is older than last November, you should be able to unlock the bootloader. Once it's been updated to a newer version, it can't be unlocked.
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I guess that'll be the big question. If the phone was only a display model since it was released. I wonder if the display models get the updates pushed automatically... I will find out tomorrow.
Well the phone came with 7.1.2 so no fun for me. Thanks for the info from everyone.
Very interesting, I stuck a T-mobile SIM in it and I can now switch on OEM unlocking. It was greyed out before I put the SIM in.
tuxdreamerx said:
Very interesting, I stuck a T-mobile SIM in it and I can now switch on OEM unlocking. It was greyed out before I put the SIM in.
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I'm curious, have you tried unlocking the BL now that you can toggle OEM unlocking?
Grubling said:
I'm curious, have you tried unlocking the BL now that you can toggle OEM unlocking?
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I have not I will this evening or tomorrow though. I was just under the impression that all Verizon Editions had that switch disabled no matter what SIM card went it. As I stated before this was a display model, I got it for next to nothing due to very minor screen burn from the demo mode, I can barely see it so i'm good with what I paid. So I wonder if display models weren't Verizon models? Or maybe this was a third party Verizon store and not corporate. Either way is there anyway to tell which one it is? The SKU on the back is G-2PW2100-021-B and it has build number N2G47E on it, which is not the verizon build I don't think.
tuxdreamerx said:
I have not I will this evening or tomorrow though. I was just under the impression that all Verizon Editions had that switch disabled no matter what SIM card went it. As I stated before this was a display model, I got it for next to nothing due to very minor screen burn from the demo mode, I can barely see it so i'm good with what I paid. So I wonder if display models weren't Verizon models? Or maybe this was a third party Verizon store and not corporate. Either way is there anyway to tell which one it is? The SKU on the back is G-2PW2100-021-B and it has build number N2G47E on it, which is not the verizon build I don't think.
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Google points to that being a Verizon SKU. But with the build number being non-Verizon, you might be able to unlock it.
There may be some relevant information here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/bootloader-unlock-verizon-pixels-t3616101
tuxdreamerx said:
Very interesting, I stuck a T-mobile SIM in it and I can now switch on OEM unlocking. It was greyed out before I put the SIM in.
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Count your blessings, most of us with Verizon models are still locked on other carriers.
parakleet said:
Only thing that matters is if the origin of the phone is Verizon or Google.
If the origin is Google you can install the Google factory image and use it on anywhere, unlock the bootloader, root and have a grand old time.
If the origin is Verizon you are relegated to the Verizon image regardless of where you use the phone, no flashing for you.
Compare the build code of your phone to the build codes on google factory image website and you will know what you have.
good luck
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Hi, I was about to buy Google Pixel XL off the eBay how can I tell if its Verizon phone or Google phone? I asked two sellers, they didn't know if it was Verizon on Google phone, they are just selling as Unlocked GSM , I never bought Google phone so I'm very new to it, per my understanding Verizon phones wont able to have unlock bootloaders? and Google phones will do? also Google phones can work with Verizon and GSM phones without any issues or they are only good with GSM?
you were saying something about build id to check
https://developers.google.com/android/images
I went to this webpage but I dont see any differences in model # for both ver?
zfk110 said:
Hi, I was about to buy Google Pixel XL off the eBay how can I tell if its Verizon phone or Google phone? I asked two sellers, they didn't know if it was Verizon on Google phone, they are just selling as Unlocked GSM , I never bought Google phone so I'm very new to it, per my understanding Verizon phones wont able to have unlock bootloaders? and Google phones will do? also Google phones can work with Verizon and GSM phones without any issues or they are only good with GSM?
you were saying something about build id to check
https://developers.google.com/android/images
I went to this webpage but I dont see any differences in model # for both ver?
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You can unlock the bootloader on Verizon.
tuxdreamerx said:
So I just bought a Verizon Pixel XL off ebay with the intention of using it on T-Mobile because I was under the impression that taking it to T-Mobile was no issue and would be no different than using a google store one on T-Mobile. Although I am reading some concerning threads about the bootloader issue. If this phone happens to have 7.11 will I be unable to flash the T-Mobile factory image onto it? Or is there really no benefit in doing this anyway? Do I and will I be able to flash at least the T-Mobile radio over to it?
Then if it is before 7.11 and I unlock the bootloader right away can I keep it unlocked even if I play around with images and stuff such as trying out the O beta? or do I have to avoid Factory images once its unlocked and only use custom roms?
Thanks in advanced!
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I literally just did this 2 months ago. Got a pixel xl and it was a verizon phone but I have Tmobile. The phone can be unlocked, it can be rooted, it can be rommed, yes it can! Mine came with 711 or 712 cant remember but whatever doesnt matter. Just follow the guide in the other thread by @Homeboy76, it's a GREAT read and tutorial. It will put you from stock nougat to stock pie, but afterwards you can go to nougat, oreo, or pie. I know because after I did it, i went to an custom rom, then to a custom oreo rom, back to stock pie, back to custom pie lol. I would put a link up to the thread but idk how to do hyperlinks lmao, i skipped that day of school.
Hi all,
I've always had carrier locked phones on Verizon/Verizon models (S3, Note 4, Note 8 - all rooted, only Note 8 with locked bootloader) and I will be getting the 6 pro in the carrier unlocked variant from the Google store. I plan to root when available. As mentioned, I plan to use this on Verizon networks.
I've read some conflicting information regarding bootloader unlocking for carrier unlocked devices to be used on Verizon so just wanted to clarify:
If I buy a carrier unlocked 6 pro, insert my Verizon sim card and set up the phone, will I be able to unlock the bootloader at a later point? Or do I need to unlock the bootloader before inserting the Verizon sim card for the first time?
I realize obviously we don't have the phones yet, but I am presuming this is more of a general question/use case. I've read in multiple spots (here on XDA and other android forums) stating that you need to unlock bootloader before inserting the sim card, but also read that you can do it at any point since the sim card doesn't deny access to those operations. So just looking for what is actually the correct answer.
Carousser said:
Hi all,
I've always had carrier locked phones on Verizon/Verizon models (S3, Note 4, Note 8 - all rooted, only Note 8 with locked bootloader) and I will be getting the 6 pro in the carrier unlocked variant from the Google store. I plan to root when available. As mentioned, I plan to use this on Verizon networks.
I've read some conflicting information regarding bootloader unlocking for carrier unlocked devices to be used on Verizon so just wanted to clarify:
If I buy a carrier unlocked 6 pro, insert my Verizon sim card and set up the phone, will I be able to unlock the bootloader at a later point? Or do I need to unlock the bootloader before inserting the Verizon sim card for the first time?
I realize obviously we don't have the phones yet, but I am presuming this is more of a general question/use case. I've read in multiple spots (here on XDA and other android forums) stating that you need to unlock bootloader before inserting the sim card, but also read that you can do it at any point since the sim card doesn't deny access to those operations. So just looking for what is actually the correct answer.
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My last several devices have been carrier unlocked, and rooted, while on the Verizon network.
Unless the p6/p6 pro is different than my previous carrier unlocked Google phones, there should be no problem using a Verizon sim in a carrier unlocked device that's rooted.
The only issue I've had with Verizon with a carrier unlocked device is if it is a device they (VZW) do not offer, you cannot use VZW warranty, and you cannot get the free cloud account that comes with a Verizon device.
Of course that may have changed as well, but I've never had an issue with a carrier unlocked Google phone being rooted while using a Verizon sim card.
Hope this helps.
Az Biker said:
My last several devices have been unlocked carrier, and rooted on Verizon network.
Unless the p6/p6 pro is different than my previous carrier unlocked Google phones, there should be no problem using a Verizon sim in a carrier unlocked device.
The only issue I've had with Verizon with a carrier unlocked device is if it is a device they do not offer they will not warranty and you cannot get the free cloud account that comes with a Verizon device.
Of course that may have changed as well, but I've never had an issue with a carrier unlocked Google phone being rooted while using a Verizon sim card.
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Thanks for the response. So just to clarify:
Unless the 6/6 pro is different, a carrier unlocked variant can have its bootloader unlocked at any point - whether it be right away or after the sim card is initially inserted/phone gets activated?
Carousser said:
Thanks for the response. So just to clarify:
Unless the 6/6 pro is different, a carrier unlocked variant can have its bootloader unlocked at any point - whether it be right away or after the sim card is initially inserted/phone gets activated?
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Yes. That is my experience with all my previous carrier unlocked Google devices that were on the Verizon network.
IIRC, all were rooted AFTER activation on VZW network via sim.
Az Biker said:
Yes. That is my experience with all my previous carrier unlocked Google devices that were on the Verizon network.
IIRC, all were rooted AFTER activation on VZW network via sim.
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Awesome. Thanks for the clarification!
Hopefully anyone who has the same question sees this thread.
To clarify, you are referring to buying the Verizon variant directly from the Google online store?