I have connected a usb-c enclosure with NVMe to my new P6Pro. Everything looks okay until I try to transfer certain files (and/or transfer a bunch of data). One that I keep having issues with is a TitaniumBackup file, about 200-300mb.
All my other Pixels (3XL, 4XL) transfer the file just fine. Transferring between a PC & the P6P works fine (both ADB & file share push from the PC).
At first I suspected that phone doesn't provide enough power to the OTG, but it's happening very consistently with certain files, which should take ~1sec to transfer at USB3 speeds...
Wondering if it's my device or a more common issue.
Interesting. I don't have any external NVMe adapters. I do use an "old" USB-C hub that includes a Micro SD slot, and I regularly copy my music from that to my P6P's internal storage, but none of these files are likely that big (it's funny calling anything less than many GB big, but I guess all music, even my preferred format FLAC files, are still reasonably sized). I transfer a total of ~400 GB of music. I don't have the same issue but very different enough circumstances, so I'm not revealing any very helpful information.
Seems like this has to do with .nomedia file handling
0-byte .nomedia is apparently invalid now -- and if encountered, something bad (like this) happens
Fry-kun said:
Seems like this has to do with .nomedia file handling
0-byte .nomedia is apparently invalid now -- and if encountered, something bad (like this) happens
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Hmmm, I use .nomedia files extensively in all of my music's deep folder's structure, but I create them with an app that does it all at once and haven't copied those files to the source locations on my computer hard drive or the duplicate copy on Micro SD card. I'll set a reminder to run some experiments when I'm in front of the computer tomorrow and report back.
Of course, it could be specific to NVMe drives, or particular types/technology of NVMe drives, and I won't be able to confirm either of those through an adapter, anyway.
Okay, did some digging. First, back when I used to manually create .nomedia files (or use an old app to do so), they were of course zero-byte (empty) files. This app Nomedia, although slow, does work for me, and apparently creates the files with various small byte-lengths - the contents of which are merely the text of the path it put them in.
I also learned that they only seem to be necessary at a root level to completely exclude everything underneath it. I didn't remember that was the case. So I only have six .nomedia files in my 400GB+ of music files folder structure, and I'll just keep in mind never to create my own, or if I do, to always have something in the file so it's zero-byte length. I can only assume the developer for that app knew that zero-byte .nomedia files could cause some problems.
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Just found it, did any one test it?
It claims to be able to connect to your pc web and exchange files.
My pc is down but trial app shows available space on the phone correctly.
Just having a quick play with it now. It seems to be able to create folders on your phone, although what use that is I'm not sure. Will see what happens
Nothing fancy going on here really. You can create a file explorer and do all kinds of file and folder manipulations in your apps isolated storage. You just can't manipulate anything outside of it.
Transferring files from your pc to phone and vice versa is rather simple to code. There's code samples on microsofts wp7 development forums.
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Nothing fancy going on here really. You can create a file explorer and do all kinds of file and folder manipulations in your apps isolated storage. You just can't manipulate anything outside of it.
Transferring files from your pc to phone and vice versa is rather simple to code. There's code samples on microsofts wp7 development forums.
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Fair point but that means:
1. It shows you can have access to storage without zune and that is all in all step closer to proper file explorer
2. Bluetooth pictures, music or document transfer is possible by means of an app so some one might make one
3. Using your phone as flashdrive via usb can also be made to work via app
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Fair point but that means:
1. It shows you can have access to storage without zune and that is all in all step closer to proper file explorer
2. Bluetooth pictures, music or document transfer is possible by means of an app so some one might make one
3. Using your phone as flashdrive via usb can also be made to work via app
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so for an eBook or comic book reader, they just have to make the reader able to import the files from the PC and store them in their own sandboxed area correct?
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so for an eBook or comic book reader, they just have to make the reader able to import the files from the PC and store them in their own sandboxed area correct?
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Yep seems that is the case.
It is very good news as that means we will have flashdrive apps or BT storage apps quite quick.
It will need to last till phone is hacked.
True... but you you won't be able to transfer files to/from the phone from any desktop computer.
Software will need to be installed on the desktop computer and the phone app needs to be setup to talk to that piece of software.
It is conceivable that somebody could write a single piece of software for desktops that could then communicate with any number of apps on the phone to transfer files between.
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True... but you you won't be able to transfer files to/from the phone from any desktop computer.
Software will need to be installed on the desktop computer and the phone app needs to be setup to talk to that piece of software.
It is conceivable that somebody could write a single piece of software for desktops that could then communicate with any number of apps on the phone to transfer files between.
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Well not exactly correct. With pcconnector yes but some smart person can make a app that takes control over usb and when you start it simulates flash drive rather then HTC HD7. USB knows what device is connected as that devices tells it what it is. All you need is a app that will say I am a X,Z or Y flash drive.
The same way original one worked diferance was it was showing SD card and for WP7 it would have to be a folder.
Hi this may have already been answered but I'm having trouble locating any information on it.
When transferring from my laptop to my tablet, some of the time my files transfer fine while others won't.
Now before someone says the formats are different. I have made sure the file formats are the same.
I have included a picture of what is happening.
I have reformatted the sd and managed to get a few files on, then the same thing happens. Even previous files which have worked before come out the same way.
Please help me its doing my head in.
Can you explain what the photo is showing, It looks like you are trying to play a movie in some strange multi-windows player that i do not recognise, maybe even a streaming movie service, not copying a file from your notebook to your tab.
The only problem i have see is transfer times can me quite long, though windows transfer optimizations may be off by a bit, my brother-in law was copying a load of movies to his new 128gb, and he was getting estimates of 14 days copy time, for big transfers i take out the microsd card and use an adaptor and plug it in my notebook.
John.
My Pixel XL sees my OTG drive just fine from within the native file explorer - the one that comes up when you first plug the drive in. But curiously, Astro File Manager can't find the drive, either can PowerAmp. They only see internal storage.
I am careful to select "File Transfer" when the drive is first plugged in, so it doesn't think the drive is a power source.
Any ideas why the drive can't be seen via other means other than the native file explorer?
After some investigation, it appears that having an app access, or play, a file on an OTG drive since Android 6.0 has been a non-starter. Security and permissions in the OS seem to be at the root of it (no pun). Getting 6.0+ devices to see and execute files on an OTG drive - beyond the capability provided by the native file browser - seems to need root and/or other interventions that don't seem worth the effort for me.
If anyone else knows different, please let me know.
For me, having an OTG drive handy has value as I can easily copy files to internal memory in a snap when on-the-go, and simply play them from there with the app of my choice. Alternatively, if I were to push my Pixel to capacity by taking tons of pix and 4K video (not likely) I could easily off-load them to OTG.
You must have some kind of problems because I just tried and I can actually execute files (music, video, apk the ones I tired) from the external USB drive without having to copy them in the internal storage.
Both using the integrated Android default file manager and Solid Explorer (with no OTG-plugin).
Good to hear Matt!
Which OTG drive are you using? Maybe it's a pin-out problem on my particular drive.
No problems for me either. I'm using a Kingston 64GB DataTraveler microDuo 3C (with both USB C and USB A). I can confirm I can access its file directory with Solid Explorer and can play music stored on it with PowerAmp.
As far as I remember when I first connected it, I first tried to access it with Solid Explorer. I was initially directed to the Pixel's stock file explorer and had to make a selection there. After that the drive was fully accessible with Solid. Since then Solid and PowerAmp can access the OTG drive as soon as it's connected and I haven't been prompted to do anything in the stock file manager since.
However I'd like to add that I've since found an OTG drive isn't the same as having an SD card slot. I originally hoped that I could relocate all my music files to the external drive to keep lots of space free on the Pixel (32GB version). Although that is possible, PowerAmp takes about 7 minutes to scan and build its music library (6,000+ HE-AACv2 tunes) whenever I connect the OTG drive, so it's not exactly a fast and seamless alternative to keeping music in internal storage. The drive also gets quite hot when it's being accessed, and I'm not sure if it consumes a lot of power to run.
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After some investigation, it appears that having an app access, or play, a file on an OTG drive since Android 6.0 has been a non-starter. Security and permissions in the OS seem to be at the root of it (no pun). Getting 6.0+ devices to see and execute files on an OTG drive - beyond the capability provided by the native file browser - seems to need root and/or other interventions that don't seem worth the effort for me.
If anyone else knows different, please let me know.
For me, having an OTG drive handy has value as I can easily copy files to internal memory in a snap when on-the-go, and simply play them from there with the app of my choice. Alternatively, if I were to push my Pixel to capacity by taking tons of pix and 4K video (not likely) I could easily off-load them to OTG.
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My Pixel XL sees my OTG drive just fine from within the native file explorer - the one that comes up when you first plug the drive in. But curiously, Astro File Manager can't find the drive, either can PowerAmp. They only see internal storage.
I am careful to select "File Transfer" when the drive is first plugged in, so it doesn't think the drive is a power source.
Any ideas why the drive can't be seen via other means other than the native file explorer?
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Exact same problem for me. I only have 32 XL and would love to use OTG drive, but only system file browser sees it.
You sure its not because you are trying to read exFAT? Pixel cant see exFAT.
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Am I the only one experiencing issues with USB connection and file transfers? I'm having a very hard time using my sync tools to automate transfer of entire internal shared storage. Windows sometimes shows two internal storages. Sometimes if i copy the entire internal storage over, it will only do a few files and then crash or stop. My automated tool for syncing directories can't even access it reliably. It reads the contents and then just hangs or crashes. I can copy files over manually no problem, but sometimes if I copy bulk folders over it will crash or have some kind of issues and I have to do it again. I feel you have to manually navigate inside the internal shared storage to really get it to work, like windows can't really dig deep into the filesystem on its own.
God I miss TWRP
But what is with the usb mounted storage?
I haven't had any troubles with accessing my Pixel 6 Pro from Windows unless I accidentally hit the cable the wrong way, but then once I fix it, it works reliably for me again until/if I have another accident.
Are you using the cable that came with the phone?Is this a laptop or desktop?If a desktop, are you using a USB-C connector on the outside (top, front, or side) of your computer, or are you using a USB-C port that's directly on the back of your computer?Do you have a spare cable you can try, even if it's a different type (USB-A instead of USB-C, etc) - as long as it supports USB 3.x Gen 1 (5 Gb/s) at a minimum.Do you have access to a spare computer to test if you have the same problem with it?
Also, I don't use Windows Explorer at all. I find file transfers of any type work much better through GPSoftware Directory Opus (I have nothing to gain advertising them - I've been using Directory Opus for 30 years, so I'm very experienced with it).
There may be other Windows file managers that also work better, or there is even TeraCopy although I haven't touched that in years.
Good luck, I hope you get it working better for you. Let us know either way.
I use DOPus also!
Man, I have tried all the usb slots. The one directly on the motherboard and otherwise. If I use DOpus, if i try to copy the internal shared storage folder as a whole, it crashes part way through. But I was able to succeed if I used DOpus' synchronize tool, which digs into the directories before copying. I don't know why, but that helps. That is what I'm saying. It seems windows needs help digging into the folders before it can do anything with it.
I have also tried multiple cables including the white one that came with it. No big difference.
Cool that you're a DOpus fan too!
Is there any chance you can have temporary access to another computer to try with it? If necessary, you could try a computer at the library just for testing purposes.
Back when I used CodeSector TeraCopy, it had a way of more easily integrating with DOpus, specifically, if you end up trying TeraCopy and see if it helps.
Also, is this Windows 10 or 11? (I'm on 10)
I can no longer transfer mp3 files from my Windows computer to my P6P. I have moved plenty of music to internal storage, but now can no longer get anything over. Only the album folder shows up, but no contents. I believe I am doing everything correct with the USB cable, connecting and then selecting file transfer. This is a new development. Any suggestions? Very frustrated.
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I can no longer transfer mp3 files from my Windows computer to my P6P. I have moved plenty of music to internal storage, but now can no longer get anything over. Only the album folder shows up, but no contents. I believe I am doing everything correct with the USB cable, connecting and then selecting file transfer. This is a new development. Any suggestions? Very frustrated.
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Is it showing up under my my computer? Like as a drive "C, D, etc"
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Is it showing up under my my computer? Like as a drive "C, D, etc"
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Yes, I see the Pixel internal storage in file manager, and all the music folders already there. Now when I try to transfer an album the new folder shows up but none of the mp3 files. Even when I then try to transfer the files individually
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Yes, I see the Pixel internal storage in file manager, and all the music folders already there. Now when I try to transfer an album the new folder shows up but none of the mp3 files. Even when I then try to transfer the files individually
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Question, are you transferring then unplugging to check if they transferred? Sometimes windows and android have a hard time communicating...this is jokingly called the "middle school dance" where both see each other but both don't make the first move to update what has been done.
Sometimes I transfer stuff but windows explorer never updates what has actually transferred.
Absolutely what @Gytole said. And it's not just Windows' built-in File Explorer. Other programs like GPSoftware's Directory Opus also have the same problem with views of the phone's storage across MTP.
@gmfeld Have you checked on the phone itself if you can see the files that you think you copied recently?
Try rebooting - both the phone and the computer?
Yes I checked my phone after unplugging. Weird, the last time I tried 4 files transferred out of 20. I rebooted my phone I will try rebooting my computer
I've rebooted my phone and computer and have tried every way I can think of. Four out of 20 files were transferred to my phone internal storage and I cannot get the rest of the mp3 files of the same album to copy over. This must be new to me with the latest update.
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I've rebooted my phone and computer and have tried every way I can think of. Four out of 20 files were transferred to my phone internal storage and I cannot get the rest of the mp3 files of the same album to copy over. This must be new to me with the latest update.
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I'll set a reminder for myself tomorrow to do some tests on my own Pixel 6 Pro. I've previously copied several hundred gigabytes of FLAC and MP3 files to my P6P, but that was many months ago.
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I'll set a reminder for myself tomorrow to do some tests on my own Pixel 6 Pro. I've previously copied several hundred gigabytes of FLAC and MP3 files to my P6P, but that was many months ago.
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Thanks. I also already have a lot on there, this is something new for me.
I've loaded mp3s on mine (through musicbee sync) on mays firmware so i don't think it's tied to that. Are you on May or one of the betas (june's or 13)
I also transfered boot to downloads via explorer but that was on april
I'm almost willing to bet it's a driver issue. Windows is NOTORIOUS for "Hey! I see you're working but let's go ahead and install a different driver cause I want to piss you off."
Legit happened to me after I updated Evo to version 3 yesterday. I went into the bootloader, updated the rom, and when I went to copy over the boot.img there was no "Picel 6 pro" in explorer...I had to open device manager and choose the middle MTP driver from the "choose from list" to get it to see my P6P again makes me wanna freakin hit a baby sometimes.
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Thanks. I also already have a lot on there, this is something new for me.
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I was about to do the test, but was having some problems with MTP seeing the contents of a very deep folder structure of some of my FLAC files (which already exist on my P6P's internal storage), and then I remembered that actually, when I copy large amounts of and/or large sizes of files, I do so through an intermediary - usually a MicroSD card through a simple non-powered USB-C hub (using X-Plore File Manager).
Now that I've reminded myself of that, I don't even want to attempt to do the same kind of thing through MTP. It's painful and actually takes longer than copying to a MicroSD card first. Figures, eh?
Maybe ADB pull command works better.
Edit. adb push
I just was about to test Xender - Share Music Transfer, but connecting wirelessly to a PC requires enabling a hotspot on the phone and connecting the PC to the hotspot. Still worth testing, but I'll have to do that from a PC that my constant internet connection isn't critical on - so sometime later when I have time to do that.
This seems to be more common when the stock USB C to USB C cable that was included with the phone is not used. Granted, very few people have a USB C port on their computer right now, haha.
Anyway, I would have issues making 60GB video file transfers onto my phone - not because the phone wasn't showing up - but because the file transfer process would just randomly close explorer.exe on Windows after transferring a few files. Once I started using the stock USB C to C cable, this issue stopped occuring (and the transfers were much faster).
But, of course, if Windows isn't even detecting your phone you may have to install the Google Pixel USB driver (and also be sure to enable file transfer on your phone when you connect it to the computer).
So it's not an issue with my phone, as I'm able to transfer mp3 files from my work Windows computer to my P6P using a stock (non-Google) cable. Could it be some setting on my home Windows computer?
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So it's not an issue with my phone, as I'm able to transfer mp3 files from my work Windows computer to my P6P using a stock (non-Google) cable. Could it be some setting on my home Windows computer?
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I wish I knew what to suggest. There are just too many variables to know.
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So it's not an issue with my phone, as I'm able to transfer mp3 files from my work Windows computer to my P6P using a stock (non-Google) cable. Could it be some setting on my home Windows computer?
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It's a driver issue on your computer. Remove the driver (uninstall it from device manager), restart computer and let it reinstall.
Don't install Google USB drivers since that's for USB debugging/fastboot. Let windows install the driver by itself.
If that doesn't work, there was a post someone made recently that shows how to reinstall the default windows driver, here.
Use Spotify, Deezer, Tidal, last FM, Pandora, YouTube music, apple music, etc etc
Mp3 files usually are ilegal
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Use Spotify, Deezer, Tidal, last FM, Pandora, YouTube music, apple music, etc etc
Mp3 files usually are ilegal
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I think you mean usually illegal, which is of course nonsense. I only use local file and get them from amazon (and formerly emusic). I hate streaming because the ads (though youtube music inserts those in local file too) and data required