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Can I swap my 002 for 003 if its a bit banged up? (pics link inside)

I have 002 Novatec that I purchased from Radioshack on June 4th at 6am here in Salt Lake City,Utah. My question is, I've banged it up a tad bit and was wondering if I bring it in (unrooted/stock of course) to radioshack and explain to them why I want to be put on the waiting list for a new one (30 fps cap, purple hue,not as bright as 003s) and maybe even show them the comparison picture of the 002 to the 003, and they deny me, do I goto sprint next or call HTC or keep trying?
http://tund.imgur.com/evo

i was under the impression that you could return it w/in 30 days for whatever reason. at least, that's what Dan says in his commercials.

or you could just tell em that you get crappy service inside your house so what's the point of having a phone you can't use at home.

healthpellets said:
i was under the impression that you could return it w/in 30 days for whatever reason. at least, that's what Dan says in his commercials.
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the thing is,.. the screen has 2 minor scratches,kickstand is scratched up a wee bit, the camera lense has a scratch or two but not right in front of the lens just off to the sides, and the corner has a ding, can I return it in that condition? I will post screens soon!
healthpellets said:
or you could just tell em that you get crappy service inside your house so what's the point of having a phone you can't use at home.
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crappy 4g service mind you, but thats what wifi is for

If it been less then 30 days your fine. Even if its been a few days over they can still do it. They might charge a restocking fee, but they can waive it. just be firm when handling those lovely radio shack employees.

Pics: http://tund.imgur.com/evo

Its 30 days if the phone is in perfect shape they have to take it back. If it isn't, like yours, then your taking your chances, you may have to plead/grovel.
Good luck!
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mrono said:
Its 30 days if the phone is in perfect shape they have to take it back. If it isn't, like yours, then your taking your chances, you may have to plead/grovel.
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Hmm so crappy signal inside buildings/home might defeat the fact that my phone is a bit thrashed?

Damn,
Did you drop it into a pile or rocks or something?
Getting paid $8/hour they probably won't care... YMMV

Wayno-san said:
Damn,
Did you drop it into a pile or rocks or something?
Getting paid $8/hour they probably won't care... YMMV
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Dunno, i brought it in couple weeks ago and showed the dude that sold me the phone the scratches on the screen, he was like dunno if we will be able to accept that phone, so I guess im stuck with it,.. which isnt a bad thing for me, just my wallet. So the question now i guess is, can I convince these RS guys to exchange my 002 with an 003 and hope I get an epson screen? I will be going straight to ZAGG HQ here in Salt Lake to have them install thier Invisshield since I'm so clumsy at it, if I do get a new evo.

You're still within 30 days, so even if RadioShack won't take the phone back can't you still cancel your service, or get a cheap dumbphone and change your plan accordingly? You can always sell your Evo on Ebay or something then.
EDIT: since the OP changed his original question, this post is no longer relevant

Probably depends who you talk to and how nice they are. Some Radioshacks will inspect the phone more in-depth than others. Basically you are wanting to exchange a nicked up phone for a new one. "30 fps cap, purple hue,not as bright as 003s" are not really considered defects. Unless you bought the warranty from them that covers wear and tear, then it's gonna be a hit or miss.
edit: I just skimmed your pictures and those are some pretty bad nicks. I thought it was just light surface scratches here and there. Good luck, but I'll be pretty damn surprised if they took that back.

Seriously?

gthing said:
Seriously?
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+10000000
Outside of just not taking care of your equipment your only real reason is from what you have read on the internet. You actually have no legitimate reason to return the phone. You probably never notice any difference until you read about it. It hasn't been proven with enough comparisons which panel is better or brighter. Now some are sticking with the nova panels. Tweaks are being done as well.
Funny you mention a refund due to it being heavy on the wallet yet you would take an 003 with epson if you had a chance.
Please don't post a complaint about how horrible customer service is when they don't fullfil your request.
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I really don't get how people can't take care of their expensive equipment.
If anything, try to go to a Sprint retail store and see if they'll let you swap over or do a dumbphone swap then get on the list for the rev0003. Considering your lack of care for your equipment, your odds are low. It would cost them money to take your phone back since they'd have to replace the screen and camera lens.

mrmomoman said:
Outside of just not taking care of your equipment your only real reason is from what you have read on the internet. You actually have no legitimate reason to return the phone. You probably never notice any difference until you read about it. It hasn't been proven with enough comparisons which panel is better or brighter. Now some are sticking with the nova panels. Tweaks are being done as well.
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Serious? -10000000. The reason I even began searching these forums was for a fix to the sluggish performance. This is not my first android phone. I've had an Incredible with Verizon and borrowed my cousin's N1 for a few days while waiting for the Evo to come out. Now that there is a psuedo fix for the fps issue, a real fix that doesn't break and FC everything is imminent. But a brighter screen with richer truer blacks and no screen seperation? Nobody knew the 003 were brighter with richer blacks untill the screen shot comparison.
I could tell immediately that the EVO had fps issues, the scrolling would glitch out and skip, the app drawer, the overall fluidity felt like something was holding it back, htc. I tried out the fix and man the evo blazes! Can't wait till they perfect it!
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Funny you mention a refund due to it being heavy on the wallet yet you would take an 003 with epson if you had a chance.
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Who Wouldn't? I'm paying for it, I want the best, just like the next guy.
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Please don't post a complaint about how horrible customer service is when they don't fullfil your request.
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I will do whatever I please.
cosine83 said:
I really don't get how people can't take care of their expensive equipment.
If anything, try to go to a Sprint retail store and see if they'll let you swap over or do a dumbphone swap then get on the list for the rev0003. Considering your lack of care for your equipment, your odds are low. It would cost them money to take your phone back since they'd have to replace the screen and camera lens.
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At the time of purchase that Radioshack did not have any screen protectors and only a universal smartphone body glove clip on case which is pretty dam useless,added unnecessary bulk to the phone and did not give me access to any of the buttons. It was just a holding case.
There were no limited edition Seidio Innocase Active Cases. Though I agree I am partly to blame for not babying it until suitable protection was available, one of the first threads I read was about how the phone had Gorilla Glass which seems like bs due to how easy it is to scratch the screen. =\

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Seriously?
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My dad can beat your dad, wanna fight about it? Meet @ Radioshack next to the Subway in Taylorsville. I shall have made a makeshift sword for my evo and we shall have a battle to the death in front of RS employees. LOL

thats pretty banged up within 30 days haha

(Off topic) Do you think some people are more careless than others?

Yeah, I know, another stupid question from me. I try to be as careful as I can possibly be when it comes to my phones and other expensive electronics. To the best of my bad memory, I can't remember the last time I've dropped a phone on the ground. My s/o and her daughter drop their phones often and seem careless when handling them, especially when they're pissed off. I'm ocd in some ways and I take great pride in treating my phones carefully and not tossing them around. My gf just got a e4gt last night. I was talking to her about the deep scratches her daughter's phone had, like it was dropped on concrete. She got all defensive and started in about "well I'm not perfect!"
I didn't insinuate that I was perfect, only that I was very careful with them. The daughters phone used to be mine. She's on her third replacement of the phone too.
Instead of me rambling as usual, what are your thoughts? I'm so ocd, to give you an idea, I gave someone a two way amateur radio that I wasn't using anymore. I had probably 800 invested in it. I also ALWAYS kept it in its protective leather case. It was maybe 4+ years old and when I took it out of the case to show the guy I was giving it to, it was flawless. Not a scratch or blemish on it. OK, lets hear your stories.

Isn't that humans we're all different ....
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Since I'm sitting on the can, typing out on my phone, not going to get into a story...
But hell yes. I take care of my stuff that I love. I've never understood why people treat their expensive electronics like disposable items.
I stopped buying my teenage daughter nice smartphones. She would render them ugly and useless in 2 months. Everytime.
Since I made her save for the full price of a phone she wanted, magically it still works a year later!
When I worked in computer repair, I would see this all day long...
People would buy new $1000 laptops, treat them like ****, slam the lids shut, toss them around, drop them, wander around the house holding them by a corner while they are on and have things dangling from the usb ports, toss them on counters, eat food and drink beer next to them...
Then 6 months later, wonder why they don't work, wonder why the HD is failing, whether usb ports are broken, blame the company for making ****ty devices, or worse blade us for selling them ****ty devices.
Asshats.
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Both of my teenage daughters are extremely careless with their electronics. I have spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on replacements for them and they just keep breaking them. I told them both "NO MORE REPLACEMENTS!". Since then, they have both broken their phones again....and they'll be stuck with their busted phones until their birthdays. They friggin' break everything...even their ipods. My ex is careless with her **** too. I think it's a chick thing.
My son, on the other hand....is like me. He babies his gadgets and hasn't broken a single one. Good boy. Lol

I baby the **** out of my phones. If I drop my phone you'll see me cringe. Maybe even shed a tear. I've only dropped my phones a handful of times, probably less than 10 total times, over the past 8 years or so, and I still haven't dropped my E4GT. Hope I don't jinx it. But my ex is careless with her phones. Within 3 months they look like ****, scratches, scuffed to hell... sorry, but I like my expensive electronics to look nice! THAT IS WHY I BOUGHT THEM! BECAUSE THEY LOOK NICE!
I think this translates to all electronics, as well. My laptop, aside from probably having crumbs under the keys, is nearly flawless after 3 years. My Xbox 360 has never red-ringed, yet I know people who have had 5 Xboxes over the years due to red rings and whatnot. Maybe I just give mine adequate ventilation? DUNNO! But everything electronic that I own, I treat with the respect and care that it deserves. If you take care of things, they last longer. It is a fact.
So glad you posted this thread. Dumb *****es be droppin' phones errywhere I go!

yokken said:
I baby the **** out of my phones. If I drop my phone you'll see me cringe. Maybe even shed a tear. I've only dropped my phones a handful of times, probably less than 10 total times, over the past 8 years or so, and I still haven't dropped my E4GT. Hope I don't jinx it. But my ex is careless with her phones. Within 3 months they look like ****, scratches, scuffed to hell... sorry, but I like my expensive electronics to look nice! THAT IS WHY I BOUGHT THEM! BECAUSE THEY LOOK NICE!
I think this translates to all electronics, as well. My laptop, aside from probably having crumbs under the keys, is nearly flawless after 3 years. My Xbox 360 has never red-ringed, yet I know people who have had 5 Xboxes over the years due to red rings and whatnot. Maybe I just give mine adequate ventilation? DUNNO! But everything electronic that I own, I treat with the respect and care that it deserves. If you take care of things, they last longer. It is a fact.
So glad you posted this thread. Dumb *****es be droppin' phones errywhere I go!
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I'm always careful with anything somewhat expensive too. My phone has yet to be dropped or scratched in any way. I always get pissed when people (like my mom...) handle my stuff in any way I don't like, even though they think they're being fine. Just yesterday my mom tried to put my binder and math book on top of my laptop. <_< I'm ocd and very protective about all my stuff.
Also, about the xbox issues, rrod depends on a lot of things. Keeping it shoved up against a wall on carpet and letting it get dusty will obviously not help, but it mostly has to do with the motherboard revision you have. How old is your xbox? Since the 2nd and 3rd revisions of the motherboard rrod is very hard to cause (for someone who actually cares about their devices). My 360 from pretty much launch day got the rrod a while back, so I opened it up and fixed it, but once it permanently failed, I got a slim which won't ever fail me. None of my personal jtags have never had any problems except for a xenon a while back (xenons are from the initial release of the 360). Wow, I just ranted on a lot about that so I guess I'll stop now, haha. By the way, I work a lot with modding 360's (both hardware and software) , so that's why I'm into this. If anyone ever has any xbox related questions just ask me
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Man i get mad if my otterbox isnt in perfect condition. Lol if it gets scuffed or scratched i get a new one....lol id lose my mind if i scratched my phone lol
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Yeah, I baby mine too(aside from flashing the #@!& out of it some nights). I put a high quality case and screen protector on it in the parking lot after I got it. And if I ever drop it I get the cringe of death. But regardless of what I've heard some say, I am impressed with the build quality in the event of human blunder
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I'm bad about coddling my phone too I have different color cases to match my clothes and I never rock it naked I have a vinyl skin on it underneath the case and if my housing ever gets scratched I wet sand and buff the scratch out lol, my wife's phone on the other hand lives in a suitcase sized purse with the 9billion pounds of junk she keeps in there so it looks like its done 2 tours in Afghanistan lol
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Nothing drives me crazier than someone who doesnt take care of the phone. I work as an IT in the military, so you can say I've seen some dumb [email protected]/t happen to phones, computers, monitors, you name it. One of the absolute worst cases was when this guy called me down to the "engineering" space to look at one of the computers... Opened it up cause the "video just quit working all of a sudden". Poured about 2 cups of coffee out of the case. Then they had the nerve to ***** to my boss after I told them I wasn't going to replace it since tgey were acting lime a bunch of animals.
Back on topic... I HATE when people dont take care of their phones. My buddy (back before android days) had a brand new iphone 3g. Somehow ran over it (not comepletely) and cracked the whole top half of his phone. Somehow it was still able to make and receive calls....but still, who does that?
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Im anal about my phones like that, they always have a TPU case and screen protector. 9 months later they still look brand new.

I usually buy a cheap case each time i get a new phone but only use it for like a week because i hate the extra bulk. but thank god for gorilla glass cuz today i dropped my phone about 6 feet screen down on concrete and theres not a scratch

I treat mine like it is a bomb. If I let it drop ill die with it. On another note my wife always take care of her electronics. They are all in mint condition.
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Funny how we baby our phones on the outside but aren't.afraid to trash the hardware underneath.

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Funny how we baby our phones on the outside but aren't.afraid to trash the hardware underneath.
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Lol...true that.

We..that is the wife and I baby our phones..the big complaint I have is when she gets a p.o.s case that came from what looks like it was made by LEGO!!
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I've dropped my phone 20ish times in the three months I had it.. caught them all thankfully, but the back elevated lip is a little scuffed, not sure why..
last week my girlfriend was talking and she was using hand motions, (at chest level) and she knocked my phone another 2 feet in the air over cement.. i caught it.. dear god ive never been so happy.. time to use the case..
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I think it usually comes back to who has to pay for the replacements. In my experience, people who have to pay for their own crap take better care of it. It's the ones with protection plans, too much money, or parents who aren't willing to teach them the value of taking care of their stuff who get careless. And yes, it does seems to be far more common with women.
Luckily, my gf takes decent care of her stuff. Being a broke college student who can't afford to replace stuff makes you cautious. I don't even bother keeping mine in a case. I'm careful with it and I never drop it. I just can't stand to take such a nice device and cram in inside a huge, unsightly case. Half the reason I bought it was because it was so light and thin. I bought it the day it was release and I have a tiny scratch on one side that's actually from trying to get a ****ty case off with a coin and a faint line on the back where the speaker bulge touches.

I got pissed because I got a TINY scratch on my backup NS4G. I baby my phones like no other but my laptop... that's another story. I use it for Netflix and Odin and that's it. It doesn't get near the respect that my phones do
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I'm not as careful as I should be with my phone. It's because in 1-2 years it's going to replaced anyways so I just don't feel that sense of attachment.
I still follow basic care though like slapping a case on it, not putting my keys in the same pocket, that sort of thing.

[q] please help any suggestions will be perfect and appreciated!

I bought my s3 on friday had my mom pick it up from best buy. this morning i went to shower and left the phone on the shelf playing music at least 6+ inches away from the edge of the shelf which over looks the toilet, some how while shampooing my hair the phone fell into the toilet...... :crying:i took it out dried it blew dry it a bit and then put it in rice as few suggested and read online..... what im asking is there anything i can do/say to ATT/Samsung/Best buy to get another one w/out having to pay 200 dollar deductible for ATT insurance? i would not care about paying up too 100 too get another one but i realize its highly unlikely. the phone is not even a week old and pray a miracle can happen.... any answer would be greatly appreciated...

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I bought my s3 on friday had my mom pick it up from best buy. this morning i went to shower and left the phone on the shelf playing music at least 6+ inches away from the edge of the shelf which over looks the toilet, some how while shampooing my hair the phone fell into the toilet...... :crying:i took it out dried it blew dry it a bit and then put it in rice as few suggested and read online..... what im asking is there anything i can do/say to ATT/Samsung/Best buy to get another one w/out having to pay 200 dollar deductible for ATT insurance? i would not care about paying up too 100 too get another one but i realize its highly unlikely. the phone is not even a week old and pray a miracle can happen.... any answer would be greatly appreciated...
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Yeah, the countless number of people who've dropped their phone into the toilet. You could ask bestbuy but I doubt they will refund you/replace since this is an issue you brought upon yourself.

DarthDerron said:
Yeah, the countless number of people who've dropped their phone into the toilet. You could ask bestbuy but I doubt they will refund you/replace since this is an issue you brought upon yourself.
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i didnt drop it in there, the phone vibed itself to the edge i guess from the music being loud and phone not having the slightest bit of friction?

Phone shouldn't be in the bathroom while showering. High humidity isn't the best thing for electronics.
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lol very true but not too helpful the phone works fine besides the speaker...... please some advice i begggggg

Sorry to say it man but you may be out of luck. Water damage is really tough to talk your way out of, even if the phone vibrated itself into the toilet, you still set it there.
Maybe find someone who can do speaker repairs or else you may just have to deal with whatever fee it is.

I'd consider myself lucky that it still works at all, minus the speaker. Yeah, it's an important feature but with water damage...it's usually a non-working device with a $200 price tag to fix.

Yeah that's absolutely a bit of a tough position. Definitely not the best place for a phone, but you do have options. You could call AT&T and beg for mercy, threaten to switch, call retention, or do something like that though. I would say first just try to win over the sympathy of someone working there. They're people too and a lot of people have had toilet-phone related incidents haha.

I believe that you have a certain number of days with Best Buy to buy the protection plan. I also don't know how rigorously they test it to return withing their 14 day return policy. I might try a couple of stores if I didn't meet with success. With iPhones they put them into baggies with rice.
Good luck.

after testing it yeserday i put it back in rice cuz there was some moisture left on the front cam.... today its all gone and the phone works pretty fine, but like i stated before everything but the speaker..... i spoke with the insurance company for ATT with is asurian and they told me 200$ deductible best buy told me im basically screwed and that i can try and go to the best buy store and try and beg them to let me either exchange it or kick rocks....i wish i can pay another 50 for another phone.... they should have some policy for phone under 7/14 days old and if it works should be able to exchange for a newer one.... FML, if phone had a bit more friction, it dove into the water on its own =( thanks for suggestions ^

Brooklynsour said:
if phone had a bit more friction, it dove into the water on its own =( thanks for suggestions ^
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This actually made me laugh. Please don't try to play the victim here. This was 100% your fault. Don't blame the phone for not having enough friction.
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lol i didnt drop it in the toilet it vibed in there my fault was bringing in the bathroom but all the other 100+ times i brought my old skyrocket in the bathroom and set in the same place playing music it never moved or anything and the s3 on the first time i bring it to play music it slides of the shelf is pretty unexpected especially when im washing the shampoo out my hair.....

Brooklynsour said:
I bought my s3 on friday had my mom pick it up from best buy. this morning i went to shower and left the phone on the shelf playing music at least 6+ inches away from the edge of the shelf which over looks the toilet, some how while shampooing my hair the phone fell into the toilet...... :crying:i took it out dried it blew dry it a bit and then put it in rice as few suggested and read online..... what im asking is there anything i can do/say to ATT/Samsung/Best buy to get another one w/out having to pay 200 dollar deductible for ATT insurance? i would not care about paying up too 100 too get another one but i realize its highly unlikely. the phone is not even a week old and pray a miracle can happen.... any answer would be greatly appreciated...
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My friend's iphone had water damage and geeksquad fixed it for free with a warranty. Im not sure how much the warranty is but im guessing its way cheaper than 200 dollars lol. Some dude dropped his s3 in poop water and putting it in rice worked perfectly maybe the poop was the charm xD
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yea its working now after the rice but im gonna take it to best buy either tomorrow or friday and pray i leave with a positive mood and smiley face lol.... the phone should have a 30 day warranty from best buy and like 90 days or w/e it is from samsung but the lady from samsung told me that after water damage the warranty is basically gone and if the technician see a problem with the motherboard it will cost alot of money.... =(

I agree with Samsung stance on that. By no means was your phone defective.
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[Discuss] S4 is not pocket friendly?

Okay, so, I found out the hard way that even with a hard-shell-back case on the S4, it is very much NOT pocket friendly. Last week (5 days ago), I put my S4 (which i've babied from day 1 and looks brand freakin' new), pull it out of my pocket 5 minutes later to a dead screen. After some fiddling by taking everything out and plugging it back in, I found the screen kind of came back but failed again shortly after that. The S4 felt light to begin with, I didn't think there's a shred of metal anywhere in the device to provide a supportive internal structure to keep things from bending in a way they shouldn't (one of the reasons I bought the case at T-Mo's 80% markup)... After calling in to claim on my warranty (this thing is 6 months old), I brought it into a store and spoke with a rep who said it looked perfect otherwise, brand new, however he confirmed my suspicions that they're only plastic framed. This design is great for many reasons, weight being one, but horrible for things such as pockets, imagine if I had sat down in a car with it in my pocket instead of just walking down the stairs at work and using a urinal... the thing would have been obliterated, even in it's hard-back case. Wanted to get out there and find out if anyone else has had some issues with the S4 and pocket incidents.
To note, I have a random replacement device coming back because they didn't have an S4 on back-back-order and decided rather than to make me wait, they just shipped something android to me, probably not an S4, and if it is, it's black, which I will promptly return because I live in Arizona and black is the worst idea for a color of anything out here unless you want it to be hotter than hell when you touch it. Let's hope they got me something good, not HTC, and not black, I suspect I'm gonna lose this roulette and be stuck with this awful HTC HD7 (WinPhone7, fml) for a while, while I go back and forth with T-Mo to get my replacement android device.

No problems whatsoever with keeping my S4 in my pocket.
You must be wearing skinny jeans.

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No problems whatsoever with keeping my S4 in my pocket.
You must be wearing skinny jeans.
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Same here, i work in a factory, and i lean against lots of extremely hard surfaces/objects and no issues at all, however i do have an otter box on it.
Btw, i do wear skinny jeans and i still don't have an issue Don't be hatin my friend

@elesbb your to much
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elesbb said:
Same here, i work in a factory, and i lean against lots of extremely hard surfaces/objects and no issues at all, however i do have an otter box on it.
Btw, i do wear skinny jeans and i still don't have an issue Don't be hatin my friend
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Pics or it didn't happen.

I second the pics or it didn't happen.
Bonus points if you're wearing guyliner.

I read the other thread on this subject in the I9505/I9500 forums... No one asked this question, what is your BMI (weight (lbs) divided by height (inches) squared multiplied by 703)? Just curious. Mine is 26.4 (considered overweight, can't argue with belly pudge), I wear skinny to straight pants, rocking a Neo Hybrid case - no issues or concerns (aside from the occasional stretch-out-leg-while-sitting-to-pull-phone-out issue). I walk up and down roughly 20 flights of stairs a day, use the urinal 3-4xs, and generally go about my day with my primary device damage concern coming from placing my keys in same pocket and droppage.

as long as you dont wear pants that make your balls retract into your body you should be fine

TheAtheistOtaku said:
as long as you dont wear pants that make your balls retract into your body you should be fine
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My thoughts exactly lol
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TheAtheistOtaku said:
as long as you dont wear pants that make your balls retract into your body you should be fine
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Smartass... they're kind of tight around the waist because I've put some weight on, however, they're not tight at the crotch, the pockets are a little tight, but I can get my hands in and out of the pockets with my wallet (much fatter than the phone) and the phone no problem before. I only had my phone on me at that time though.
TASL: Your BMI calculations, put them into mathematic notation, I'm trying to make sense of your phrasing and every number I come up with is either friggin tiny as hell and wrong, or is insanely high and completely wrong (cause I'm not the size of the damned planet...) Give me actual mathematical notation to follow so I can give you a number damnit.
BMI formula: (We[lbs] / (He[inches]^2)) * 703 = 35.95 -- I am overweight, but I'm not friggin obese, I can run, I can jump, I can climb, hell I can chase a city bus down for a quarter mile without too much trouble, I may be out of breath, but I'm not dying. These BMI calculations do not take into account where the weight is or how it's distributed. My doctors have told me I'm overweight for my build, but not by much, right now 50lbs, when I went in, I was only 25-30 over.

Cynagen said:
Smartass... they're kind of tight around the waist because I've put some weight on, however, they're not tight at the crotch, the pockets are a little tight, but I can get my hands in and out of the pockets with my wallet (much fatter than the phone) and the phone no problem before. I only had my phone on me at that time though.
TASL: Your BMI calculations, put them into mathematic notation, I'm trying to make sense of your phrasing and every number I come up with is either friggin tiny as hell and wrong, or is insanely high and completely wrong (cause I'm not the size of the damned planet...) Give me actual mathematical notation to follow so I can give you a number damnit.
BMI formula: (We[lbs] / (He[inches]^2)) * 703 = 35.95 -- I am overweight, but I'm not friggin obese, I can run, I can jump, I can climb, hell I can chase a city bus down for a quarter mile without too much trouble, I may be out of breath, but I'm not dying. These BMI calculations do not take into account where the weight is or how it's distributed. My doctors have told me I'm overweight for my build, but not by much, right now 50lbs, when I went in, I was only 25-30 over.
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Pretty sure he was joking, bud. :highfive:

Exel said:
Pretty sure he was joking, bud. :highfive:
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Ugh... Sarcasm does not transmit well through text. "Smartass..." was sarcastic, beyond that I was explaining the situation and that my shorts should not be the problem.

Cynagen said:
Ugh... Sarcasm does not transmit well through text. "Smartass..." was sarcastic, beyond that I was explaining the situation and that my shorts should not be the problem.
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Lol, tell me about it. :good:

Cynagen said:
Smartass... they're kind of tight around the waist because I've put some weight on, however, they're not tight at the crotch, the pockets are a little tight, but I can get my hands in and out of the pockets with my wallet (much fatter than the phone) and the phone no problem before. I only had my phone on me at that time though.
TASL: Your BMI calculations, put them into mathematic notation, I'm trying to make sense of your phrasing and every number I come up with is either friggin tiny as hell and wrong, or is insanely high and completely wrong (cause I'm not the size of the damned planet...) Give me actual mathematical notation to follow so I can give you a number damnit.
BMI formula: (We[lbs] / (He[inches]^2)) * 703 = 35.95 -- I am overweight, but I'm not friggin obese, I can run, I can jump, I can climb, hell I can chase a city bus down for a quarter mile without too much trouble, I may be out of breath, but I'm not dying. These BMI calculations do not take into account where the weight is or how it's distributed. My doctors have told me I'm overweight for my build, but not by much, right now 50lbs, when I went in, I was only 25-30 over.
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i was referring to skinny jeans lol im not that in shape myself

Actually this is kind of what happened to mine, only mine bent the frame along with the busted screen. Mind you this was a hot day and this particular car's A/C (1997 Saturn SL2) is slow to work on hot days (although it feels fine when it's warm but not humid). no more than 15 minutes in my pocket, *break*. of course I had my wallet next to mine.

I have mine in the Leather flip book case and its stable and durable enough to last in my pocket. i have had a slight issue with pocket dialing though, but probably because im not shutting off the screen before closing the case and putting it away.

1buy said:
Can you tell me why? I think should be no problem.http://www.1buy.com/6-inch-zopo-zp9...creen-1gb-ram-16gb-rom-13mp-camera-white.html
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that is disgusting.

TheAtheistOtaku said:
that is disgusting.
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Looks like a Galaxy Mega without the physical home button...
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I've kept mine in my pocket for 3 months and have had no problem with it, other than it falls out of my pocket occasionally when I'm in the car.

Mine always wants to turn on its side in my pocket and sit horizontal instead of vertical... That's annoying.
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first fall to ground, the phone can't power on, bad quality LG

my phone (with a spigen hard case) fall to ground first time, the screen is fine, but I can't power on it anymore...
sent it to LG service, said need 3 days to check what's wrong..
my Nexus 5 fall to ground many times, and working well. and Nexus 5x just one... LG quality now is really bad.

Well, LG might say that user handling of devices nowadays it's very bad.

Hard cases suck for drops. They accept the drop instead of deflecting it like softer ones do. Just my opinion, buy a better case

hopesrequiem said:
Hard cases suck for drops. They accept the drop instead of deflecting it like softer ones do. Just my opinion, buy a better case
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my nexus 5 use spigen hard case too, it fall to ground many time when my son play it... but still working

ourfear said:
my nexus 5 use spigen hard case too, it fall to ground many time when my son play it... but still working
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You don't think anyone dropped their Nexus 5 and it broke too? It's just luck if it breaks or not, as with any phone in a drop.
My 5x fell onto tiled floor with no case or screen protector. Barely even a scuff on two of the corners. Good job LG!
BTW you shouldn't expect a case to help in a drop when it's not designed to help in a drop, isn't advertised to help in a drop, nor was it ever publicly tested in drop tests.
If a case doesn't have these things then it is for scratch protection, minor bumps, and aesthetics only. Don't be fooled by empty marketing promises. It's easy for any case or SP to type some words on their JPEGs "super resilient, shock and explosion proof, 9H hardness" but that doesn't mean it's true or was ever actually tested. They just want your money.

Couldn't the thread have been titled, "First unlucky drop and no power.." or something like that. Ya just gotta throw in the dig of "bad quality LG" as if it's their fault you dropped the phone. I just don't get all these threads that don't really ask questions so much as to get eyeballs on a negative depiction of a very capable phone. And I'm just as guilty, I read this crap.

Me too Bobby. I keep feeding the trolls. I can't help it. I feel bad for them.

Thing is it was happening in the 6P threads too. I had one for about a week until I realized it was just too large a device for me and I was definitely going to drop and break it due to the size and slippery back. "Super lag on the 6P", "awful camera", speakers terrible" things like that just the same as here. Some of them just Sammy fans and some iPhone heads but they came out of the woodwork. And same here, "5X-Hugely disappointed" over 45k views. I mean who goes on just to post something like that instead of taking the time to return the device and research another one? It just makes me wonder motivation.
Back on topic, I dropped my phone once and not a scratch. It was on the carpet, does that count?

The only thing lacking quality in this situation is your grip.

Mine survived a 4 foot drop to concrete.
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bobby janow said:
I just don't get all these threads that don't really ask questions so much as to get eyeballs on a negative depiction of a very capable phone. And I'm just as guilty, I read this crap.
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Me too Bobby. I keep feeding the trolls. I can't help it.
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Some of them just Sammy fans and some iPhone heads but they came out of the woodwork. And same here, "5X-Hugely disappointed" over 45k views. I mean who goes on just to post something like that instead of taking the time to return the device and research another one? It just makes me wonder motivation.
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Me three.
I have to say -- I always try to assume the best in terms of motivation, and just chalk up someone's different experience to use case, app selection, etc. But my 5X is so fast, and multitasks so well, that I have to question motivation as well.

today LG called me ... said the mainboard damaged....
change a new mainboard is expensive, so I 'd better to buy a new one

ourfear said:
today LG called me ... said the mainboard damaged....
change a new mainboard is expensive, so I 'd better to buy a new one
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That, I'm sorry to hear. Somehow in this day and age they can make a phone almost indestructible. At least from a toilet drop and 5 feet onto cement.

my 5 fell into the grand canyon, I wonder if the screen broke. still rang but no one answered. sad. love my new 5X