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To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the ZTE Axon 7 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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On Quick Charge, it's fast. On a older computer, it's painfully slow. In my car, on a standard charger, it's not too bad. I just bought a QC 3.0 charger for my car and it'll charge about 30% in my 35 minute drive home (have to test that some more).
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On Quick Charge, it's fast. On a older computer, it's painfully slow. In my car, on a standard charger, it's not too bad. I just bought a QC 3.0 charger for my car and it'll charge about 30% in my 35 minute drive home (have to test that some more).
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I would double check the charger port and make sure your plugging into the QC 3.0 port, and not the 2.0A port (not sure if yours has one as well or not) my Axon 7 charges about 45-50% in my 25 minutes ride home so It doesnt sound like its charging quite as fast, unless its QC2.0
musicdjm said:
I would double check the charger port and make sure your plugging into the QC 3.0 port, and not the 2.0A port (not sure if yours has one as well or not) my Axon 7 charges about 45-50% in my 25 minutes ride home so It doesnt sound like its charging quite as fast, unless its QC2.0
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Which car charger you have?
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Have tried to push the battery as hard as I can while charging at the same time. The phone won't stall or drop charge thankfully. Gets a little hot but nothing like other phones I've owned (Nexus 6P would boil, OnePlus one would slowly drop battery until it died, iPhone 5s would get too hot to touch, HTC M7 would also become too hot to touch and unresponsive). If you're wondering if you can use this phone with GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi Hotspot, Data, Spotify while charging at the same time you can.
B27 A2017U, From 37% to 95% in 45 minutes. 5 minutes of screen and one 5 min call during charging. I won't use fast charge often because I don't need it, battery health is more important to me.
Charging speed is very fast. Battery life is great. I usually have ~20% left after running it from about 6AM to 11PM. I did misconnect the charger dongle one night, and so was at 11% starting the day. I switched to ultra power saving mode and was at 10% at the end of the day!?!
Charging speeds tbh are fairly decent. On QC 3.0 i get about 95% in about 1 hour. Nothing compared to Dash charge on the OP3, that method is insanely fast. To compare OP3's 3000 mah takes about 40~45 minutes to top off. Considering the additional 250maH on the Axon, i think the 1 hour approx charging time is good. I suppose once you get the taste of Dash charging, QC becomes less palatable
P.S. Axon's power saving mechanisms are actually quite good. No need for any 3rd party apps. I don't miss Greenify considering the background apps get killed when the screen goes off. So battery life being decent is a good trade off.
I've been impressed by the charging speed. It's close to the Moto X Pure that I loved.
I've personally never had a phone that had any type of quick charge until this phone, so I'm certainly impressed.
Hello
Question: is QC3 a killer of battery? Is charging at low amp better, or...? Cuz I read here and there that it's still better to use a slow speed charging device so that the battery doesn't heat up and doesn't wear off too fast.
What are your thoughts about that?
LeKeiser said:
Hello
Question: is QC3 a killer of battery? Is charging at low amp better, or...? Cuz I read here and there that it's still better to use a slow speed charging device so that the battery doesn't heat up and doesn't wear off too fast.
What are your thoughts about that?
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If you charge it before you sleep, I would use a charger with a lower am so it can prolong the battery's life. Using quick charge 3.0 is convenient, but it will certainly decrease the battery's life over a period of time.
Before bed: Not recommended to use another adapter to charge any phone that didn't come with it, but I would use a different adapter with a slower charging rate and voltage.
When you're about to go out or etc: Quick charge 3.0
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I use the Aukey charger. I have 2 portable QC3 and one "traditional" QC3 also. And I forgot which brand but a good one as a slow speed charger.
I thought that QC3 was different than the "old" high speed charger because it had something to do directly with the SnapDragon. The "old" high speed chargers are just sending more amps like 2A or more, while QC3 is more "controlled" so it didn't affect the battery. Am I totally wrong?
Has anyone noticed their charging time increase by 10-20 minutes or so? Could be my imagination as I also have an op3 now..
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Has anyone noticed their charging time increase by 10-20 minutes or so? Could be my imagination as I also have an op3 now..
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Probably your imagination. Dash charge is much faster that QC. If your phone's charging up in an hour it's fine.
bonk3rzzz said:
Probably your imagination. Dash charge is much faster that QC. If your phone's charging up in an hour it's fine.
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even faster than QC3.0?
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even faster than QC3.0?
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Oh yes absolutely. I came from an OP3 to Axon. It's the only thing I miss about the OnePlus 3. And the ROM. And the front finger print scanner. And updates.
On a more serious note, Dash charge is really fantastic. As advertised. 3000 mAh takes 40 to 45 mins, but the most important feature is that it doesn't heat the phone up and using the OP3 while charging is a better experience.
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I think QC3 is already pretty fast, so... Charging low speed when I'm not in a rush, following some (your?) advices here.
I had ordered a 1+3 and canceled when I saw the Axon7, but I had also a Dash Charger on the way and couldn't cancel that one. Too bad they're two different technologies
The 1+3T is... nice
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I think QC3 is already pretty fast, so... Charging low speed when I'm not in a rush, following some (your?) advices here.
I had ordered a 1+3 and canceled when I saw the Axon7, but I had also a Dash Charger on the way and couldn't cancel that one. Too bad they're two different technologies
The 1+3T is... nice
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Yeah i absolutely hate the existence of the op3t cause it has everything that op3 didn't. And yeah don't use the dash charger with anything else unless you like watching things getting smoked up.
LeKeiser said:
Hello
Question: is QC3 a killer of battery? Is charging at low amp better, or...? Cuz I read here and there that it's still better to use a slow speed charging device so that the battery doesn't heat up and doesn't wear off too fast.
What are your thoughts about that?
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I don't trust it to keep the battery in good condition over a long time. So I use a normal charger instead.
Hi,
Is it possible to turn off the dash charge? 5T is charged only overnight cause it can last the whole day anyway.
PS: I can turn off Fash Charge in my Samsung Note. So it saves battery if I charge only overnight and don't need fast charge feature.
There is no stock option for this. Maybe a custom kernel can support it or a custom kernel that doesn't support it at all would also be a possibility in theory.
I would suggest using a normal power adapter instead of the Dash charging one. Even a normal USB C cable prevents Dash charging as it can only be used with OnePlus' own cable. So maybe get a cheap USB C cable and use that?
Use a low amperage charger. Something like 1000mah. This will slowly charge your phone overnight. But make sure you use a quality charger.
Why would you want to do this? The OnePlus dash charger works differently from other chargers in that it holds the heat in the charging block. If you use a standard adapter you would transfer the heat to the phone while charging. I would NOT recommend doing this.
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I use an Anker IQ 6-port Charger with a couple of fairly good quality cables.
I personally try to avoid any kind of fast charge because it will end up damaging the battery life faster than "standard" charge, even if the heat is absorbed by the DASH charger block. IQ Charge adapts itself with the needs of the device connected.
And my unit stays cool if I touch it while its charging.
Charge however you want. But for me, dash charger while getting ready in the morning or when you have a free half hour. Forget about charging overnight. I don't know your usage but for me, this works. The phone just sits on my nightstand without connecting overnight and I lose a very minimal battery amount.
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https://www.guidingtech.com/61180/dash-charging-quick-charge. I'll just leave this here.
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That's why we can choose
Just not in a software way.
I choose to use wireless charging using a receiver.
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DragonMessor said:
Use a low amperage charger. Something like 1000mah. This will slowly charge your phone overnight. But make sure you use a quality charger.
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It's fine at even less than 1 amp. We have two 5Ts in the house and charge them at night at 0.35 - 0.45 amp.
I saw the dash reduce Ampare when pass above 80%.
(When not rush I use official iPhone 1Amp charger.)
Use 5V/2A standard charger to standard usb type c.
Oneplus 5t = 5V/4A
Quick Charge = 9V/2A
Dash n QC have more power!
I'm using an old 1A Samsung power adapter and dash charge cable and in addition I also use Battery Charge Limit app to limit charging the battery to 80%.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/root-battery-charge-limit-t3557002
Headbanger1982 said:
I personally try to avoid any kind of fast charge because it will end up damaging the battery life faster than "standard" charge
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No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
SilverSurger said:
No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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Your informations are not correct.
Dash (or VOOC, which is the very same technology since OnePlus is an Oppo brand) uses high current fast charging instead of high voltage charging (QuickCharge 2.0/3.0 uses high voltage) and the circuit that produces heat in phones that are not Dash/VOOC compliant is inside the phone, while in Dash/VOOC is inside the charger.
Oppo and OnePlush themselves have acknowledged that it makes SAFE to use the phone while it is quickcharging, NOT that the battery is not getting damaged by the use of a fast charging method, even if it charges at a lower voltage and higher current.
The use of any fast charge technology implies to shorten out the overall battery life.
SilverSurger said:
No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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Just because they moved a bunch of the power regulation stuff to the charger doesn't mean the battery doesn't still get warmer. If you push 4 amps of current into it, it will heat up more so than when it receives, 1 amp.
Now you have me curious though, I guess I'll have to pay close attention to the battery temp next time I charge my battery. I've never used the dash charger, but perhaps I'll have to get it out of the box, and test with it as well just to see what kind of temps I see with a more powerful charger as well. I'm curious to see how much temperature difference there is.
I know on my Nexus 5X my phone always lasted long on a single charge when slow charged (0.35 amps), vs using the factory 3 amp charger.
Constantly topping up the battery overnight for 5-6 hours (assuming your slow charger will charge it to 100% in 2-3 hours) is worse than using Dash to charge it quickly in bursts in the morning and night when you have a spare 30 minutes.
I would never leave a phone stuck on a charger overnight. Especially since even the slowest charger in the works will charge the phone to 100% in three hours or so.
xocomaox said:
Constantly topping up the battery overnight for 5-6 hours (assuming your slow charger will charge it to 100% in 2-3 hours) is worse than using Dash to charge it quickly in bursts in the morning and night when you have a spare 30 minutes.
I would never leave a phone stuck on a charger overnight. Especially since even the slowest charger in the works will charge the phone to 100% in three hours or so.
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I don't charge my phone over night either but by using above mentioned Battery Charge Limit app it is possible to stop charging when desired battery level has been reached.
Squabl said:
I don't charge my phone over night either but by using above mentioned Battery Charge Limit app it is possible to stop charging when desired battery level has been reached.
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That would be a good idea to do. Although the best is to just Dash charge in short 30 minute bursts when you can.
Headbanger1982 said:
Your informations are not correct.
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The use of any fast charge technology implies to shorten out the overall battery life.
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How does it imply that? Heat is the only factor. Phone is not getting hot(ter than slowly charging) when charging.
What is the truth? With the rapid charging the battery deteriorates faster or better a slower charging?
Hello guys,
To offert at my battery the best treatment I'm looking for a lower amperage wall charger for my Pixel 2XL.
Between 1 and 1.5 Amp it will be excellent. I read some interesting suties about battery life and how manage it and fast charge is part of that.
Thank you all anf have good evening.
I am sure it will charge on either one, but how fast who knows? If you are rooted and have Magisk, download the ACC module and you can control your charging that way instead.
Le_Combattant said:
Hello guys,
To offert at my battery the best treatment I'm looking for a lower amperage wall charger for my Pixel 2XL.
Between 1 and 1.5 Amp it will be excellent. I read some interesting suties about battery life and how manage it and fast charge is part of that.
Thank you all anf have good evening.
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Older USB chargers are mostly slow 1A chargers, like the cube Apple chargers
Droid_Nut said:
I am sure it will charge on either one, but how fast who knows? If you are rooted and have Magisk, download the ACC module and you can control your charging that way instead.
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I'm not rooted and I don't think I gonna it
Le_Combattant said:
Hello guys,
To offert at my battery the best treatment I'm looking for a lower amperage wall charger for my Pixel 2XL.
Between 1 and 1.5 Amp it will be excellent. I read some interesting suties about battery life and how manage it and fast charge is part of that.
Thank you all anf have good evening.
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I am an electrical engineer, and have some knowledge about how Li batteries function.
I have always wondered this, I always see people mentioning that slower charging is better for the longevity of Li-ion batteries. There is always a trade-off here. Slower charging also means the battery takes much longer to charge, and the battery stays hotter for longer period of time, which should affect it's lifetime. Fast charging also does the same thing, but the temperature is much hotter but is exposed for shorter period of time.
Now these is merely a speculation on my part, I don't have any theoretical or experimental evidence to back this up - I think regular 5V 2A charging is a balance between those two scenarios.
Also, I recall that the peak charging current is limited in P2XL, so using the stock charger shouldn't harm that much either.
Pixel 2XL is my first smartphone who do not Come hot when it charge so...
But I know that high temperature are not the best things for battery in general.
And about the level of charge ? Some people said they stop at 80% to manage battery
suhridkhan said:
I am an electrical engineer, and have some knowledge about how Li batteries function.
I have always wondered this, I always see people mentioning that slower charging is better for the longevity of Li-ion batteries. There is always a trade-off here. Slower charging also means the battery takes much longer to charge, and the battery stays hotter for longer period of time, which should affect it's lifetime. Fast charging also does the same thing, but the temperature is much hotter but is exposed for shorter period of time.
Now these is merely a speculation on my part, I don't have any theoretical or experimental evidence to back this up - I think regular 5V 2A charging is a balance between those two scenarios.
Also, I recall that the peak charging current is limited in P2XL, so using the stock charger shouldn't harm that much either.
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I use a 5 watts charger and the phone stay completely cold during the charge process.
Also there was a recent 2017 scientific paper that tested what degraded the battery. It's a really interesting read with many tested model.
https://www.researchgate.net/profil...e-model-under-different-charging-stresses.pdf
Number 1 cause is high battery voltage at the end, second one is battery charging speed. Any speed faster than 1c will degrade the battery much faster.
This is why i charge at 5w plus stop charging at 80% (unless i know I'll need 100% that day, where i fully charge, but for my usage 80% is more than enough for the usual day).
von_block said:
I use a 5 watts charger and the phone stay completely cold during the charge process.
Also there was a recent 2017 scientific paper that tested what degraded the battery. It's a really interesting read with many tested model.
https://www.researchgate.net/profil...e-model-under-different-charging-stresses.pdf
Number 1 cause is high battery voltage at the end, second one is battery charging speed. Any speed faster than 1c will degrade the battery much faster.
This is why i charge at 5w plus stop charging at 80% (unless i know I'll need 100% that day, where i fully charge, but for my usage 80% is more than enough for the usual day).
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I charge my phone every 48h and when it is full I unplug it from wall charger. And I charge it from 20-25% (some time I go lower because of my usage)
It's your famous amazon wall charger?
Le_Combattant said:
I charge my phone every 48h and when it is full I unplug it from wall charger. And I charge it from 20-25% (some time I go lower because of my usage)
It's your famous amazon wall charger?
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I download AccuBattery and charge my phone from 25% to 80% max. The app detect directly the stock capacity of my battery (3520mAh) but after my charge, the new capacity estimated is 2982%. Is the first value is reliable or I have to do some other charges?
You have to wait for about 10 cycles. It says in the application something like that.
So, I've got a question and a problem, maybe.
To wireless charge my 20ultra, I use my old anker circular 10w wireless charger. It works great on my s10+, but I noticed today that to charge from 4% to 54% it took 2 hours and half, which means it would take about 6 hours to charge from 0 to 100% (with fast charge enabled).
Now my question is, is this normal or should be much faster? And if should be faster, is it possible that the problem is that my s20u cant fully charge with my actual anker charger? Ive noticed that the camera module keeps the phone with little space over the charger (not much, but it's not totally touching it, lets put it that way), and with ampere app i noticed that when it charges it says 200-250mA (i think my s10+ had much bigger charge rate).
Do you guys think its definately the charger the problem? And can you suggest a good one working with s20u? I dont like having the phone standing when i charge it, which is why i always used the circular ones from anker, but it seems to have problems with the camera module... anyone else has it and can confirm me that?
Thanks!
Turn on fast charging on your phone
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tdevaughn said:
Turn on fast charging on your phone
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It's on of course.
Just put 13 stable on my phone and charging my phone Takes forever I mean it's slow as hell..Wasn't the best on Android 12 but hell on Android 12 it was way faster.. That's the one thing I hate about this phone the battery life sucks an charging the battery is so damn slow..I got all the Adaptive crap turned off.
I'll have to pay more attention to the charging speed on my P6P and let you know what I experience. I try to never use fast charging, never charge overnight, try not to let the battery go below 25% and don't charge past 75%. That 50% range lasts me about 24 hours, but I might use my phone less than you.
I had no complaints about the charging speed on Android 12.
Edit: I'm happy with how much my phone has charged in the last 45 minutes, given that I don't use fast charge methods.
I am having the same issue. Installed 13 stable on my 6 pro. My battery got down to 4% so I plugged it in. I continued to watch YouTube and after an hour it was only up to 8%. Something is def wrong. The battery sucked before but now it's even worse
Updated yesterday and seems ive now got an issue with wireless charging. My phone stopped charging at 81% overnight. Its very intermittent whether it starts charging now on the two wireless chargers i have and seems to stop randomly, not getting to 100%. Charges fine using a cable.
Have the same problem since upgrading to android 13.
According to AccuBattery is the charge current around 900 mA. Way too slow and really annoying!
Didn't have the problem with android 12.
I'm using an Anker Power Port III which can charge with up to 25W. It's the same with other cables and charging devices.
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To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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In the end - with the official cable usage - my charging speed hasn't changed between A12 and A13.
NippleSauce said:
To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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I think you didn't get my point. I did a comparison between android 12 and android 13. Since the charging speed is reduced dramatically it doesn't matter which cables or charging devices I use unless they are the same.
So we don't discuss absolute charging times here but the fact that by upgrading the OS of our Pixel 6 Pro the charging behaviour changed ceteris paribus.
I charge slowly over night, the charger i use normally charges at 1.5A max, now on A13 it is charging at 800mA
I have ESR magsafe ring. My car charger is working for about 2 minutes and stops. Battery temperature reach 43°C within 2-3 minutes since I upgraded to android 13.
All of the magsafe accessories stopped working. All of the normal QI chargers stopped working. I absolutely hate this phone. First 3 months - no reception in buildings. Still no 5G in my country even with root and signal guru. Now it's not charging wirelessly and only slow charing with cable.
My new guess is it is due to the overheating problem with the update to Android 13.
A lot of people complain about the high temperature. Therefore the phone reduces the charging speed.
Maybe that's also the reason for the problem with the wireless charging. too much heat = no wireless charging. Just guessing...
ATM I rebooted my phone to safe mode. Let's see if this helps.
Somehow I solved the problem. I booted into safe mode. Then I clean the temp files with Google Files. And now my phone is charging with 2mA and above again. Also the temp of the battery is down to 36°. I still think that is the root cause.
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Somehow I solved the problem. I booted into safe mode. Then I clean the temp files with Google Files. And now my phone is charging with 2mA and above again. Also the temp of the battery is down to 36°. I still think that is the root cause.
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Doubt this but I will try it and report back
NippleSauce said:
To clarify one thing for a number of users, you will not get adequate charging speeds without the official charging cable, the 30W Google branded wall brick and good temperature conditions.
The temperature conditions are generally the hardest to control whilst using the device - so I always charge with my phone powered off and have never had an issue. Heck, I generally charge with a 5W wireless pad and it always reaches 100% overnight (usually takes about 5 hours with my minimal wattage charging pad).
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In the end - with the official cable usage - my charging speed hasn't changed between A12 and A13.
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well we know for one you dont need that
just a cable capable of the current and a charger that hits PPF standards
and even with/without official chargers it will only peak 21w
im using a £5 Gan charger and a USlion 2M long magnetic 60w cable that can do data aswell and it is doing 20w peak for me on A13 which is what it did on A12 aswell. Both which i bought before the official charger came out
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Doubt this but I will try it and report back
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Nope, still charging like a piece of [crap, so,] not sure what Google did with A13 , I use official charger for fast charge, considerably slower than on A12
But yeah 3rd party Chinese charge and magnetic cable no issues. Charging issues are not a13 related it will be some defining factor like an app or hardware
CubnPackdad said:
Just put 13 stable on my phone and charging my phone Takes forever I mean it's slow as hell..Wasn't the best on Android 12 but hell on Android 12 it was way faster.. That's the one thing I hate about this phone the battery life sucks an charging the battery is so damn slow..I got all the Adaptive crap turned off.
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I am having the same problem
I updated my pixel 5a to 13 stable. It's charging speed decreased a lot . Firstly it took around 1hr 50 min to get 100 now it's lot
more than 3hr. Gets lot of heating while charging.
Sometime it shows "6 hr to full charge" even at (30-40) battery level, and that's really bad .
After 13 Device is heating ( not just warm) so much even in normal uses (No gaming).
My own testing found out as long as battery reach 41 degree C, the P6P will charge at 3.5W only... (While still displaying fast charging). It you put the phone in front of air conditioner vent to lower the temperature to 25 degrees C, then it charging at full 20W.
The P6P easily get into battery y 41 degrees C by just charging at room temperature higher then 32 degrees C. On A12 its pretty difficult to get this... Somehow A13 drive the CPU while charging which I suspect affect the heat dispatching. I used a charging wire with watterage display so its easily see how P6P limiting the charging wattage with temperature.
It was considerably slower for me too. I was in Spain, coming from UK, so had to use adapter. I thought it's the case, but it has also been something with temperatures, I couldn't backup the pictures because the system showed me it's too hot. I hope that was the issue.
I just swith to Android 13 there are ossue with battery . please fix it .you guys are doing great work