Whitestone Dome just released a replacement screen protector for the inner folding display, which they advertise as the genuine Samsung film. It comes in a one-pack for $20 plus shipping on their site, or $18 with free Prime shipping on Amazon. It includes a jig to help with alignment and they advertise a bubble free installation.
Just thought I'd mention it for those looking to replace their inner screen protector, but want the original film (which in my opinion is fantastic). But mine has picked up a few hairline scratches and I may replace it soon.
Whitestone Dome [Samsung Genuine Film] for Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 Dome Genuine Film Screen Protector Anti-Bubble HD Clear PET Film Screen Guard for Galaxy Z Fold 3 (2021) https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B09LV4W...abc_5256ME01VCGKQN1GVWZS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
[Gen Film] Galaxy Z Fold 3 Gen Film Screen Protector with Installation Jig - Anti-Bubble, HD Clear, PET Film
Oneplus 8T Tempered Glass Screen Protector EZ installation. Edge to edge protection while providing the perfect clarity and touch sensitivity. 3 Pack glass and easy installation tool included.
www.whitestonedome.com
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Because I didn't mean to mark it as a question. I fixed it. I hope it didn't disturb your evening too terribly that it was miscategorized.
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Because I didn't mean to mark it as a question. I fixed it. I hope it didn't disturb your evening too terribly that it was miscategorized.
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Okay good, I just thought you might just forgot to write your question. Therefore I did politely ask why it was marked as an question.
In my country they say removing original screen protector voids warranty
klemen241 said:
In my country they say removing original screen protector voids warranty
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In US at least it was clarified that removing it doesn't void the warranty. But if you damage the screen while removing it, it's not covered.
None of the display disassemble is easy on this model. You better know what you're doing, and have steady nerves and hands... and a near clean room environment be nice to have.
I have zero faith in Whitestone based on their lame of customer support and poor QC that I unfortunately witnessed myself.
OEM parts by Samsung certified repair center is the safest bet...
I just received my screen protector today from Amazon. I don't plan on installing it yet, as my factory screen protector is still in great shape with only a few surface scratches. I basically bought this out of curiosity and to have a back up if I need it.
Again, this is marketed as the genuine Samsung film, meaning it's the OEM replacement film for the ZF3. It comes with a jig to assure perfect alignment, and they advertise a bubble free installation. I can't attest to that since I haven't installed it, but a dust free environment would be ideal. No different than any other screen protector installation.
The film is the EXACT same size as the factory applied film. It is not the $90 UTG film that Whitestone originally marketed, which also seems to no longer be available on their site. I have no doubts about the quality. WSD has a great reputation amongst users here, and I'm currently using their EZ glass protector on the outer screen, and it's fantastic and was super easy to install.
As far as what @blackhawk said, you can safely ignore him and his comments. He has been trashing the ZF2 and the ZF3 since they were released, despite the fact that he's never owned either device and says he will never own them. He often makes false claims about the devices and Samsung in general. He is a troll that goes to different forums here just to trash talk devices. I actually have him on my ignore list, but his comments still appear sometimes. But he's just trolling this thread, too. He doesn't own this device, obviously has NO clue how to install a screen protector on it, and I doubt he has any experience with any WSD product.
There is NO disassembly of the display required at all. You're merely peeling the factory screen protector off. It does not require skill or nerves of steel. Simply watching a YouTube video will show you how easily the factory film is removed. Obviously you can always go to a Samsung certified repair shop like UBreakIFix or Best Buy, but this is the genuine film and can easily be installed at home. Run the shower, steam up your bathroom to knock dust out of the air, and just be patient and careful. Same method I've used for years to install all different types of screen protectors.
This video shows installation of WSD Silk UTG screen protector, but the jig and installation for the genuine film is identical. As you can see, it's pretty straightforward.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
I just received my screen protector today from Amazon. I don't plan on installing it yet, as my factory screen protector is still in great shape with only a few surface scratches. I basically bought this out of curiosity and to have a back up if I need it.
Again, this is marketed as the genuine Samsung film, meaning it's the OEM replacement film for the ZF3. It comes with a jig to assure perfect alignment, and they advertise a bubble free installation. I can't attest to that since I haven't installed it, but a dust free environment would be ideal. No different than any other screen protector installation.
The film is the EXACT same size as the factory applied film. It is not the $90 UTG film that Whitestone originally marketed, which also seems to no longer be available on their site. I have no doubts about the quality. WSD has a great reputation amongst users here, and I'm currently using their EZ glass protector on the outer screen, and it's fantastic and was super easy to install.
As far as what @blackhawk said, you can safely ignore him and his comments. He has been trashing the ZF2 and the ZF3 since they were released, despite the fact that he's never owned either device and says he will never own them. He often makes false claims about the devices and Samsung in general. He is a troll that goes to different forums here just to trash talk devices. I actually have him on my ignore list, but his comments still appear sometimes. But he's just trolling this thread, too. He doesn't nt own this device, obviously has MO clue how to install a screen protector on it, and I doubt he has any experience with any WSD product.
There is NO disassembly of the display required at all. You're merely peeling the factory screen protector off. It does not require skill or nerves of steel. Simply watching a YouTube video will show you how easily the factory film is removed. Obviously you can always go to a Samsung certified repair shop like UBreakIFix or Best Buy, but this is the genuine film and can easily be installed at home. Run the shower, steam up your bathroom to knock dust out of the air, and just be patient and careful. Same method I've used for years to install all different types of screen protectors.
This video shows installation of WSD Silk UTG screen protector, but the jig and installation for the genuine film is identical. As you can see, it's pretty straightforward.
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I wuv you too.
How many can you repeat yourself, weak sauce?
Me not owning this device doesn't change the materials or design of it... unfortunately.
By all means show us how well your do it self repair went. You probably should have got two, you'll need the practice.
Someone who has done dozens of them knows the tricks you don't. They get paid to learn by their failures, do you?
You'll be looking at every day for hours, that's why you pay a skilled tech to do it.
Anyone can buy 2 quarts of urethane car paint, the trick is putting it on.
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I wuv you too.
How many can you repeat yourself, weak sauce?
Me not owning this device doesn't change the materials or design of it... unfortunately.
By all means show us how well your do it self repair went. You probably should have got two, you'll need the practice.
Someone who has done dozens of them knows the tricks you don't. They get paid to learn by their failures, do you?
You'll be looking at every day for hours, that's why you pay a skilled tech to do it.
Anyone can buy 2 quarts of urethane car paint, the trick is putting it on.
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Literally none of your rambling response made any sense at all. But thanks for attempting to communicate and successfully hijacking yet another thread with your utter nonsense.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
I just received my screen protector today from Amazon. I don't plan on installing it yet, as my factory screen protector is still in great shape with only a few surface scratches. I basically bought this out of curiosity and to have a back up if I need it.
Again, this is marketed as the genuine Samsung film, meaning it's the OEM replacement film for the ZF3. It comes with a jig to assure perfect alignment, and they advertise a bubble free installation. I can't attest to that since I haven't installed it, but a dust free environment would be ideal. No different than any other screen protector installation.
The film is the EXACT same size as the factory applied film. It is not the $90 UTG film that Whitestone originally marketed, which also seems to no longer be available on their site. I have no doubts about the quality. WSD has a great reputation amongst users here, and I'm currently using their EZ glass protector on the outer screen, and it's fantastic and was super easy to install.
As far as what @blackhawk said, you can safely ignore him and his comments. He has been trashing the ZF2 and the ZF3 since they were released, despite the fact that he's never owned either device and says he will never own them. He often makes false claims about the devices and Samsung in general. He is a troll that goes to different forums here just to trash talk devices. I actually have him on my ignore list, but his comments still appear sometimes. But he's just trolling this thread, too. He doesn't own this device, obviously has NO clue how to install a screen protector on it, and I doubt he has any experience with any WSD product.
There is NO disassembly of the display required at all. You're merely peeling the factory screen protector off. It does not require skill or nerves of steel. Simply watching a YouTube video will show you how easily the factory film is removed. Obviously you can always go to a Samsung certified repair shop like UBreakIFix or Best Buy, but this is the genuine film and can easily be installed at home. Run the shower, steam up your bathroom to knock dust out of the air, and just be patient and careful. Same method I've used for years to install all different types of screen protectors.
This video shows installation of WSD Silk UTG screen protector, but the jig and installation for the genuine film is identical. As you can see, it's pretty straightforward.
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This is great, thanks. I generally avoid expensive screen protection because I'm absolutely useless at applying it. This video shows why you'd invest in this protector. It seems that even I could manage it.
Thanks for the shower tip too!
jeromepearce said:
This is great, thanks. I generally avoid expensive screen protection because I'm absolutely useless at applying it. This video shows why you'd invest in this protector. It seems that even I could manage it.
Thanks for the shower tip too!
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No problem at all! Shower works a treat for minimizing dust in the air. I run te shower and the faucet on hot. When the mirror steams up, you should be good.
Pretty cool that this is available. Unfortunately, I haven't had much luck with Whitestone on my N20U and Fold2. Fortunately, still no scratches on either factory screen protector. My Fold3 is a first release device and I use the s pen multiple times per day. I am very happy with my inner screen experience this go around. Mine still feels like actual glass.
On a side note, I'm really happy to see the Fold3 getting more love with the accessories than the Fold2 did. Makes me hopeful that the line itself has gained popularity and with what to expect with the 4th iteration.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
I just received my screen protector today from Amazon. I don't plan on installing it yet, as my factory screen protector is still in great shape with only a few surface scratches. I basically bought this out of curiosity and to have a back up if I need it.
Again, this is marketed as the genuine Samsung film, meaning it's the OEM replacement film for the ZF3. It comes with a jig to assure perfect alignment, and they advertise a bubble free installation. I can't attest to that since I haven't installed it, but a dust free environment would be ideal. No different than any other screen protector installation.
The film is the EXACT same size as the factory applied film. It is not the $90 UTG film that Whitestone originally marketed, which also seems to no longer be available on their site. I have no doubts about the quality. WSD has a great reputation amongst users here, and I'm currently using their EZ glass protector on the outer screen, and it's fantastic and was super easy to install.
As far as what @blackhawk said, you can safely ignore him and his comments. He has been trashing the ZF2 and the ZF3 since they were released, despite the fact that he's never owned either device and says he will never own them. He often makes false claims about the devices and Samsung in general. He is a troll that goes to different forums here just to trash talk devices. I actually have him on my ignore list, but his comments still appear sometimes. But he's just trolling this thread, too. He doesn't own this device, obviously has NO clue how to install a screen protector on it, and I doubt he has any experience with any WSD product.
There is NO disassembly of the display required at all. You're merely peeling the factory screen protector off. It does not require skill or nerves of steel. Simply watching a YouTube video will show you how easily the factory film is removed. Obviously you can always go to a Samsung certified repair shop like UBreakIFix or Best Buy, but this is the genuine film and can easily be installed at home. Run the shower, steam up your bathroom to knock dust out of the air, and just be patient and careful. Same method I've used for years to install all different types of screen protectors.
This video shows installation of WSD Silk UTG screen protector, but the jig and installation for the genuine film is identical. As you can see, it's pretty straightforward.
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I'm sorry but why people take critique of a devices or companie so personal? In my opinion i don't care if it's Apple or Samsung or any other producer. What counts is the quality and the hardware plus the service. If all 3 criterias are given i will buy there product. Regarding the ZFold 2 and 3. This devices are a expensive jokes. If i can damage a display while taking off a screen protector, or by pressing a little to hard with my nail it's rubbish. If the display creates a ugly white line with dead pixels by itself, where the crease is and Samsung has the audacity to say it's costumer induced damage one can only shake his head. If you buy the 2k mobile and after 2-3 openings the display cracks, i can only shake my head and say what we're they thinking. This technology is totally unreliable and basically useless. Keep babying your fragile mobile and hope Samsung has mercy on your soul when the display goes bye bye. On ebay are many zflips and zfolds with exactly the damage i described. Sure compared to the millions sold, not all will show this flaw. But all are prone to be damaged by anything as hard as a fingernail.
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I'm sorry but why people take critique of a devices or companie so personal? In my opinion i don't care if it's Apple or Samsung or any other producer. What counts is the quality and the hardware plus the service. If all 3 criterias are given i will buy there product. Regarding the ZFold 2 and 3. This devices are a expensive jokes. If i can damage a display while taking off a screen protector, or by pressing a little to hard with my nail it's rubbish. If the display creates a ugly white line with dead pixels by itself, where the crease is and Samsung has the audacity to say it's costumer induced damage one can only shake his head. If you buy the 2k mobile and after 2-3 openings the display cracks, i can only shake my head and say what we're they thinking. This technology is totally unreliable and basically useless. Keep babying your fragile mobile and hope Samsung has mercy on your soul when the display goes bye bye. On ebay are many zflips and zfolds with exactly the damage i described. Sure compared to the millions sold, not all will show this flaw. But all are prone to be damaged by anything as hard as a fingernail.
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I see your point. This phone is NOT for everyone. I would not even consider getting this for my son. No, it would not last. He can juggle phone and tablet. For me, who does NOT "baby" my phone, but don't abuse it as well, it's great. A friend who works construction thought about it and I talked him out of it because of his work environment, this phone would not hold up.
Calling this device a "joke", I think is not right and just going to show how narrow your view on new tech really is. It's "Bleeding Edge" and most of us that bought this are okay with having to be a little more careful with our device because of the new tech and the delicacy of the first few generations of a device of this type.
All in all, everyone is going to have different views and attitudes to new tech. If you have no interest here, hijacking a thread to bash on a device is just childish. If you don't like this device, have no interest in it, well, do the smart thing, stay out of the forum for the phone and it won't cause you any issues regardless of what someone posts here.
Just my perspective.
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I'm sorry but why people take critique of a devices or companie so personal? In my opinion i don't care if it's Apple or Samsung or any other producer. What counts is the quality and the hardware plus the service. If all 3 criterias are given i will buy there product. Regarding the ZFold 2 and 3. This devices are a expensive jokes. If i can damage a display while taking off a screen protector, or by pressing a little to hard with my nail it's rubbish. If the display creates a ugly white line with dead pixels by itself, where the crease is and Samsung has the audacity to say it's costumer induced damage one can only shake his head. If you buy the 2k mobile and after 2-3 openings the display cracks, i can only shake my head and say what we're they thinking. This technology is totally unreliable and basically useless. Keep babying your fragile mobile and hope Samsung has mercy on your soul when the display goes bye bye. On ebay are many zflips and zfolds with exactly the damage i described. Sure compared to the millions sold, not all will show this flaw. But all are prone to be damaged by anything as hard as a fingernail.
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So this thread is about a genuine inner screen protector. There's a general discussion about the phone in another thread. But I will say almost everything you just said is completely untrue. And Ive used both the ZF2 and ZF3 as daily drivers and I don't baby them at all.
I don't take anyone's opinions personally. At all. I don't give AF what phone you like, don't like, use, don't use. I just get frustrated when I come here to help other users and get help, then people like you hijack threads with misinformation and just trash talk a device you've never used, and know nothing about. If you have to lie about a phone to discourage others from using it, or justifying why you don't like it, then you're obviously the one taking it personal.
So take your opinions and misinformation to the general discussion thread. Please and thank you.
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So this thread is about a genuine inner screen protector. There's a general discussion about the phone in another thread. But I will say almost everything you just said is completely untrue. And Ive used both the ZF2 and ZF3 as daily drivers and I don't baby them at all.
I don't take anyone's opinions personally. At all. I don't give AF what phone you like, don't like, use, don't use. I just get frustrated when I come here to help other users and get help, then people like you hijack threads with misinformation and just trash talk a device you've never used, and know nothing about. If you have to lie about a phone to discourage others from using it, or justifying why you don't like it, then you're obviously the one taking it personal.
So take your opinions and misinformation to the general discussion thread. Please and thank you.
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I agree completely and that is the last I will say about this...
Now, back to the OP.
I watched install vids for the $90 trash they had out before and it looked daunting, at best. Does this one have the same installation?
Talderon said:
I agree completely and that is the last I will say about this...
Now, back to the OP.
I watched install vids for the $90 trash they had out before and it looked daunting, at best. Does this one have the same installation?
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As far as I can tell yes. It comes with the exact same jig
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As far as I can tell yes. It comes with the exact same jig
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Well, I am not sure I am skilled enough to get this installed. I would have to see if my Bro can do it if and when I need one. That dude has installed more WDS protectors that anyone I know (in the hundreds).
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Well, I am not sure I am skilled enough to get this installed. I would have to see if my Bro can do it if and when I need one. That dude has installed more WDS protectors that anyone I know (in the hundreds).
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It actually looks pretty straight forward. There's no liquid adhesive on this. It's a dry install. It comes with a jig that lines everything up and you just press it down with a squeeqee. I posted a link to a video showing the installation earlier in the thread.
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I was wondering if anybody had any insight or advice on LCD scratch removers. I've got a couple small scratches and was looking at some removers but wanted some advice or recommendations on any.
TIA
I was wondering the same thing!
You find any answers??
I've never tried this on my phone, but I had some light to medium scratches on my PSP from where a friend of mine used a paper towel to clean the screen.
I went to wal-mart and bought a bottle of what's called Brasso, it's in the cleaning supplies aisle. Followed the instructions and it took them out.
Note: I would do some more research first. Please don't take my word as gospel and get mad at me if you ruin your phone. It worked great on my PSP though.
I think I will send an email to UTStar and see if they have a solution... I will post any reply I get.
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I was wondering the same thing!
You find any answers??
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I haven't found much out unfortunately... Of course all the sites that sell scratch removers claim to be the best so I'm going to try a couple. I'll post the names and whether or not they worked.
scratch removers are bull****. Don't waste your money.
I think the most scratch removers are fine for normal plastic screen covers as they are used on mobile phones. This is no choice for PDAs because they mostly contain sanding particles that could harm the soft display.
For the special PDA displays I have only found a tutorial about "Turtle-Wax" in german here:
http://www.psionwelt.de/workshop/index.htm
It would be little too much to translate all this into english but basically it is written that if you polish the device carefully with the wax and then let it "dry" a few hours, it gives it a nice anti dirt cover and fills some minor scratches...
Greetz, Mike.
If your screen has scratches on it, I mean big scratches, change it. Much more efficient imho. Miracle products never work. They just contribute to make you wallet flat.
Maybe the german turtle wax would apply kinda fine coating so you can prevent more scratches to appear but it will never fill other scratches. What you'll get instead is a kinda blurry screen, maybe less responsive and so on. Worst, turtlewax is a product meant to be applied on cars not on phones... Your choice buddy, not mine. If you have money to waste buy me a pint or two!
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If your screen has scratches on it, I mean big scratches, change it. Much more efficient imho. Miracle products never work. They just contribute to make you wallet flat.
Maybe the german turtle wax would apply kinda fine coating so you can prevent more scratches to appear but it will never fill other scratches. What you'll get instead is a kinda blurry screen, maybe less responsive and so on. Worst, turtlewax is a product meant to be applied on cars not on phones... Your choice buddy, not mine. If you have money to waste buy me a pint or two!
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I never said that it would work for big scratches. I also did not try the turtle-wax myself, but I think if it is recommended in a forum of retro palm enthusiasts, it is not a miracle product that just mess it all up. The thread starter wanted experiences or recommendations so please don't guess about products you didn't use.
Greetz, Mike.
I ruined a phone once using that kind of products so here we go with experience. I do not guess about products i do not use/ I read chemical formulas and so on. I also read your deutsch palm enthusiasts palm users. Sorry to be the pain in your ass bur it's a a free place to speak and give opinion on various matters.
Hey, I'm okay with that, but just to say sth. "is bull****, don't waste your money, ruins everything" without giving a reason is no constructive statement for me (where a discussion forum should be there to discuss).
Erm, OK, so I should give a reason why I think the author of my linked text knows about the chemical stuff he is using...
Do take wax which contains neither color pigments nor metallic wax or solvent. Importantly: no polishing agents and abrasives as marble dust!
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PS: I can read chemical forumulas, too ...
So, that's just my opinion...
Nervermind. Anyway, our buddy can test if he feels like testing. Then he could post the results...
Why I have never tried on a phone. I can tell you that Novus Plastic Polish will remove fine scratches from Plexiglass and other plastics. I used it in the car audio industry for years.
I contacted UTStar.com tech support and asked them:
"I have a XV6800 and noticed some light scratches on the touch screen. Most way over to the right where the right hand scroll bar would be, and one right across the middle at an upward angle. The stylus seems to be making at least the ones on the right (I never use my fingers or anything else on the screen.
Is there anyway to polish these out?"
And the reply from them was:
Thank you for contacting UTStarcom...
please click on the link to send your unit in for evaluation.
Answer Title: Sending product in for repair
Answer Link: www.***
Thank you for contacting UTStarcom Tech Support.
Not the answer I was looking for.... this would be 2 weeks without a phone...
So what is the update here?
Hi...found the following while surfing...never used it.
http://www.merlinstable.com/
Hai
No i dont have any scratch removers think to have it....
Cell phone insurance. I find that when my touch screen gets too scratched that my phone gets stolen
a few days later I have a shiny new screen (and phone)
you can go to a jewerly and they will remove them for you (as they polish jewerly) anyway is only for cellphone cases, for touchscreens is better to buy a new one
3M makes some great swirl mark removers that will work just fine when applied with a foam pad. DO NOT USE BRASSO (As I saw above)!! It's for metal. I wouldn't recommend any harsh chemicals, as they will more than likely blur the screen for good.
hi all
i've preordered a desire, it's my third htc device but the first device with capacitive display.
does anybody have experience with a capacitive display and invisible shield?
is this going to bite each other? maybe it's a stupid question, but i want to protect my brand new phone..
thank for replies!
I had Invisible Shield on my Hero, and it's useless. You won't get scratches on your screen, unless you try to make scratches.
I've tried this product on two phones - one capacitive multitouch - the other a bb bold. A waste of time and money for both. You'll be peeling it all off in a number of weeks as the edges get frayed and any speck of dust you trapped when 'installing' will drive you nuts!
Just stick with the phone - you'll be fine.
Yes is a waste of money and time. I have it on my HD and the stylus constantly get stuck cos is the shield is too soft... Don’t bother.
The desire will have a teflon layer on the screen. It makes sure you dont get fingerprints on your screen. If you put a screenprotector on it you will have fingerprints on your screen again. So I think it's even worse to put a screen protector on your screen.
Wow everyone is against the protective layer. I have had it on my Hero since minute one, for 5 months now, and until now you can't tell it's there. I also use the phone and play with it constantly.
I'm sure we all hate to see the screen get scratched right? so it's better safe than sorry, in my opinion. You just need to be extra careful when installing it to eliminate any apparent dust getting trapped.
I would also recommend buying and extra one for the long run.
thanks for all replies.
hmm.. i love my invisible shield on the diamond. it's no as slippery as the plastic back cover and if i write with the stylus it helps to. also i can put the desire on my car's dashboard and it's not slipping away (for navigation).
i think i'll buy a shield. if it's not good, i have removed it within a blink of an eye and my desire costs very little, so i can absorb this 30 $
So four 'no's and a maybe has translated into a yes??
So you either work for a certain protective screen supplier (as you specifically mentioned a brand) and are after cheap advertising.
Or you had made up your mind irrespective of people's time and opinion - which is just plain rude.
Agree with the others. It's a waste of money.
I had a shield on my Diamond, and I think it was needed on that one, but on my Hero it is absolutely not needed.
I've had my Hero for almost 8 months, and not a scratch. I've dropped it on the ground several times, but the screen remains as shiney as the day I got it.
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So four 'no's and a maybe has translated into a yes??
So you either work for a certain protective screen supplier (as you specifically mentioned a brand) and are after cheap advertising.
Or you had made up your mind irrespective of people's time and opinion - which is just plain rude.
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me? oh.. come on! i just want to know how other people think about this.
and a scratch-proof display is just a fairy-tale!! i think you work for a display company with this (really) scratch-proof display..
no way, buddy, really
edit: anyway, not every screen protector is equal to another and my first question was, if a protector stops the electrical field of the touchpanel... that's it..
I have a a Zagg one (same product) on my Zune HD. No isses here at all. Also put it on a Omnia HD this was a bit more problematic as it was my first time and the edges did fray but my Zune HD looks good as new .
Guys just watch this video to the end and I'm sure ALL of you will use the invisible shield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHhT1jalJg0&NR=1
At least with it on the screen you can confidently clean it when it gets to that.
salahag said:
Guys just watch this video to the end and I'm sure ALL of you will use the invisible shield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHhT1jalJg0&NR=1
At least with it on the screen you can confidently clean it when it gets to that.
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That video just tells me that the guy needs to wash his hands!
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That video just tells me that the guy needs to wash his hands!
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yes, my thoughts exactly
He is sitting at a dinner table that has clearly just had dinner eaten from it and there is lot' of evidence that the food was sticky finger type stuff in fairness to the poor fella!
I will use a screen protector but defo not paying $30. When I got my G1 I used a razor blade to cut the little pull tab thing off the transit screen protector and left it in place until 2 weeks ago. 17 months! I still have the other one that came in the box! anyone want to buy it?
Well ladies and gents, just got my Amzer Shatterproof screen protector today, here are my initial thoughts: (refer to update for final thoughts)
40 dollars shipping is ridiculous (to Australia). It arrived in a large padded envelope which I think is rather poor for that price. I made some noise and had it discounted to 20 dollars but even that seems to dear for a padded envelope.
Not quite sure what to make out of packaging, photo's for you to judge to yourself...
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32846000/1.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32846000/2.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32846000/3.jpg
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Now for installation, followed instructions perfectly (supplied on packet) it was a dry install so I did it next to a running hot water tap. It all went smoothly until I tried pushing air bubbles out with their supplied card. For some reason there are hideous marks left by air bubbles as they travel towards the edge. It looks bloody terrible and I don't know whether or not to take it off, planning on leaving it on overnight and hope its a bit like zagg, disappearing as time goes on.
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Excuse the quality of the last 4 photos, taken from a very old camera.
There is also a noticeable scratch on the underside of the screen protector or something that's caused a line of discoloured pixels in the last picture.
Also, in my attempt of trying to push residual air out of these blemishes, I used my fingernail to apply pressure in hope that the blemishes would go away with proper contact to the screen (the card they provided wasn't doing anything at all). Turns out that fingernails scratch this screen protector, would have thought it was a little more resistant than that since my cheapo ones don't scratch from my fingernail... So blemishes didn't go away and the protector is scratched too...
Pros:
-Full screen coverage, no gaps on the side.
-No orange peel effect and while it isn't like my naked phone, its rather smooth.
Cons:
-Shipping was ridiculous to Australia, might be better to other places
-Getting rid of air bubbles seems to leave residual marks. Seems like you have to be a master and apply with no air bubbles for it to look good.
-Scratches rather easily and noticeably
-Not "self-healing"
Overall Verdict
Given that I had paid 50 dollars for this, (would have been 70 if I didn't complain), very dis-satisfied with this screen protector. A premium priced product shouldn't have these issues, my 1 dollar screen protectors didn't look like crap when I pushed air bubbles out, and its unacceptable that these have this problem. This is my first and probably will be my last purchase from Amzer.
Would love to hear if anyone else has had the same issues and me.
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Feel free to ask questions! if it doesn't clear up in the next few days I'll take it off, try find something else to put it on and do a drop test or scratch test to see if its really "shatterproof"
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Just to clarify: Protector itself cost 30 dollars, shipping was what sent it to the exuberant prices listed in my post.
Update: Also, there seems to be 0 improvement after: waiting/playing with phone/some more hopefully pressing. This thing looks so ugly I might have to take it off tomorrow to avoid showing it in public
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Update : 24/10/12 (the day after)
Ok so I woke up this morning and the marks from last night were still there. Hating the idea of wasting my money spent on this I decided to run an experiment: Turn something that was meant to be a dry install and make it a wet install.
The packaging describes a dry install, and I wasn't given any solution for a wet one... so I found some left over stuff from my Zagg Invisibleshield and went to work. After a bit of fiddling around and lots of spray (make sure phone is off when you're trying this), here are the results
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Sorry I didn't think of taking a photo this morning when it was looking crappy, you guys will have to trust me that it was terrible still... but the improvement after my experiment is remarkable. It isn't perfect, my camera can't capture some of the small blemishes under the protector but they are pretty much small enough to ignore, as is the dust that I can't quite get off the edge. Also you guys can see from picture 11 the scratches from my nail I was talking about. The screen protector also doesn't seem to be self healing,a few of the points where I had to force air bubbles out with my dry install still have "dents" so that could annoy some of you here.
Final thoughts? Given my crappy experience yesterday I would still probably not recommend this, especially if it stays a dry install. However in future if they change it to a wet install, that or you have a bottle of Zagg solution lying around and have already ordered this, it could be a good thing. I'm kind of happy with it now, I've now got a full screen coverage that I could use for a few weeks unless it gets terribly scratched and it is quite smooth to touch. Amzer need to work on their product pricing to make it much more reasonable... that and to increase scratch resistance of a product that is supposed to withstand bricks, hammers and the like.
Disclaimer: If you already have this and are trying a wet install, I by no means will take responsibility if you damage your device or if it doesn't work for you. This was my last hope and it managed to work (maybe by luck). If you do perform a wet install, do so at your own risk.
Update 27/10/12
Amzer have finally responded to my emails and after checking that I did follow all their installation instructions, have kindly offered to issue a replacement since they assure me it should not have this issue. Will let you know how my replacement goes
Good review!
Thanks for the input.
Thank you for this review, i was actually considering this since i've seen those crash videos (hammer, brick, etc). Not that i'm putting much faith in those but i figured this would always be better than having nothing or at least better than el cheapo $1 stuff from ebay.
I'm now very against buying this. No point in having a screen protector if the end result is that awfull (since it's application is such an hassle), i know i'd never be over that look and it would annoy me everytime i'd look at the screen. I'm actually thinking it may even affect the anti-shatter effect if it's not well applied (if such effect actually exists as they claim).
And that price range is far beyond ridiculous, a total deal breaker. I'd never buy a screen protector that would cost me about 1/4 of what i paid for my phone.
Again thank you for this review and putting up with all the hassle.
kaynpayn said:
Thank you for this review, i was actually considering this since i've seen those crash videos (hammer, brick, etc). Not that i'm putting much faith in those but i figured this would always be better than having nothing or at least better than el cheapo $1 stuff from ebay.
I'm now very against buying this. No point in having a screen protector if the end result is that awfull (since it's application is such an hassle), i know i'd never be over that look and it would annoy me everytime i'd look at the screen. I'm actually thinking it may even affect the anti-shatter effect if it's not well applied (if such effect actually exists as they claim).
And that price range is far beyond ridiculous, a total deal breaker. I'd never buy a screen protector that would cost me about 1/4 of what i paid for my phone.
Again thank you for this review and putting up with all the hassle.
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I was very much like that too, didn't think that it would stop a brick or hammer but on the off chance that anything did hit it, it might save my phone a lot of damage.
I pride myself in applying screen protectors well, nearly every single one I've done is bubble and blemish free but this was just beyond me, even a few hours after installation I don't think it's going to go away like the Zagg one.
To clarify, it's priced at 30 dollars which, while expensive, isn't too bad if it does protect the phone the way it is advertised. Just the shipping really blew it out of the water but I thought I'd take a gamble anyway
tqgia2 said:
I was very much like that too, didn't think that it would stop a brick or hammer but on the off chance that anything did hit it, it might save my phone a lot of damage.
I pride myself in applying screen protectors well, nearly every single one I've done is bubble and blemish free but this was just beyond me, even a few hours after installation I don't think it's going to go away like the Zagg one.
To clarify, it's priced at 30 dollars which, while expensive, isn't too bad if it does protect the phone the way it is advertised. Just the shipping really blew it out of the water but I thought I'd take a gamble anyway
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I am guilty of thinking that the most expensive product must be the best product. Great review.
Thanks for the review..was considering going with this but because of the price and your review I'll consider something else. Tried the DBA just like glass one too, didn't like that one either, only cover the actual screen display and have rainbow streaks..
A finger nail scratched it? Wow seems like you found its weakness.
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nice review, thanks!
Helpful review... But what the hell were you thinking paying over 30$ for a screen protector?
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Helpful review... But what the hell were you thinking paying over 30$ for a screen protector?
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I'm not quite sure what came across me at the time... was hoping it would live up to expectations and never have to buy a screen protector again. At any rate the protector was 30, but it was just shipping that was stupid...
I'm well aware of my idiocy lol but oh well, live and learn
I ost my Note 10+ a few days ago, a first for me. I immediately considered it found and stolen as I could see the person who found it via GPS, driving about the area where it fell off of my truck. So after two unanswered calls to said phone? I immediately wiped it and so at least my very minor personal data is secured. Whomever it as, *did* happen to get a very extensive, 40,000+ file .flac/.mp3 library on my spare SD Card but that's quite redundantly maintained/backed up so no real loss.
I immediately bought an exact replica of the lost Note 10+ from the same great seller as before, an ebay "excellent" condition refurb. The phone was here in 2 days then a quick visit to the local ATT store and I'm now back in business as usual, taking literally about 20 minutes to have the exact same phone/usage apps/settings and basically a Note 10+ set up precisely as my former phone had been. This is a relative topic with most users, myself included, as each of us may more or less appeciate any given app or feature ... but for me? Google sync and restore is a metaphorical Golden Unicorn(tm) lol.
But to my main question...
How can I determine if the Samsung default screen protector/film is installed on this new "refurb."
The screen on this unit is flawless, having no discernable marks or scratches, not even of the micro variety. But I have noticed that the thumbprint sensor is quite more responsive than my previous Note 10+ which definitely had the stock screen protector as, over the years, it had began to bubble ever so slightly and in certain places.
I've examined the edges of the new screen at great length under more than ample lighting and with very good magnification equipment and can find no visible "seam" or otherwise around the edges and where one would expect to find such a seam for any phone panel that had one of those super thin, super transparent protectors installed.
I will say that I found the stock Samsung protector on my first Note 10+ to be quite good, as good as any of the "tempered glass" varieties I'd used with previous phones though after two years of fairly rough use, there were small areas appearing where the Samsung factory screen film was beginning to show it's natural limitations.
So any ideas short of close examination with a good light source and high quality magnifying glasses would be welcome. If I do determine it is completely lacking in the inclusion of the factory installed panel film/protector (only reason I can imagine is if the previous user had removed it) then I will of course want to begin researching an appropriate 3rd party option that works well while maintaining solid use of the fingerprint sensor...
So any tips would be welcome...
Thanks in advance,
Joel Harris
The front cam hole will likely have a cut out in the screen protector if present. Slight seams are visible on one or more of the edges. Also the glass feels different than any plastic protector. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a good wet apply protector.
s1rrah said:
I ost my Note 10+ a few days ago, a first for me. I immediately considered it found and stolen as I could see the person who found it via GPS, driving about the area where it fell off of my truck. So after two unanswered calls to said phone? I immediately wiped it and so at least my very minor personal data is secured. Whomever it as, *did* happen to get a very extensive, 40,000+ file .flac/.mp3 library on my spare SD Card but that's quite redundantly maintained/backed up so no real loss.
I immediately bought an exact replica of the lost Note 10+ from the same great seller as before, an ebay "excellent" condition refurb. The phone was here in 2 days then a quick visit to the local ATT store and I'm now back in business as usual, taking literally about 20 minutes to have the exact same phone/usage apps/settings and basically a Note 10+ set up precisely as my former phone had been. This is a relative topic with most users, myself included, as each of us may more or less appeciate any given app or feature ... but for me? Google sync and restore is a metaphorical Golden Unicorn(tm) lol.
But to my main question...
How can I determine if the Samsung default screen protector/film is installed on this new "refurb."
The screen on this unit is flawless, having no discernable marks or scratches, not even of the micro variety. But I have noticed that the thumbprint sensor is quite more responsive than my previous Note 10+ which definitely had the stock screen protector as, over the years, it had began to bubble ever so slightly and in certain places.
I've examined the edges of the new screen at great length under more than ample lighting and with very good magnification equipment and can find no visible "seam" or otherwise around the edges and where one would expect to find such a seam for any phone panel that had one of those super thin, super transparent protectors installed.
I will say that I found the stock Samsung protector on my first Note 10+ to be quite good, as good as any of the "tempered glass" varieties I'd used with previous phones though after two years of fairly rough use, there were small areas appearing where the Samsung factory screen film was beginning to show it's natural limitations.
So any ideas short of close examination with a good light source and high quality magnifying glasses would be welcome. If I do determine it is completely lacking in the inclusion of the factory installed panel film/protector (only reason I can imagine is if the previous user had removed it) then I will of course want to begin researching an appropriate 3rd party option that works well while maintaining solid use of the fingerprint sensor...
So any tips would be welcome...
Thanks in advance,
Joel Harris
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Most likely, Being a refurb with flawless screen, it probably had it's screen replaced and replacement screens don't ship with that Samsung factory screen protector on them. Most likely no screen protector in place
blackhawk said:
The front cam hole will likely have a cut out in the screen protector if present. Slight seams are visible on one or more of the edges. Also the glass feels different than any plastic protector. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a good wet apply protector.
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Thanks mate ...
Checked all the obvious variables and there's def no protector on the screen.
I found tons of "IQ Shield" variants on Amazon but none specifically made by Gorilla, which is a brand I tend to trust. Any further info?
In the interim, I bought this uber cheap but very well reviewed cheapo. If it works half as good as the reviews seem to indicate then it should be fine.
Thanks again ....
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Thanks mate ...
Checked all the obvious variables and there's def no protector on the screen.
I found tons of "IQ Shield" variants on Amazon but none specifically made by Gorilla, which is a brand I tend to trust. Any further info?
In the interim, I bought this uber cheap but very well reviewed cheapo. If it works half as good as the reviews seem to indicate then it should be fine.
Thanks again ....
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Get a couple, just in case. Things must be as dust free as possible ie spotless on the glass and room where applied. Don't touch the glass or back surface of the protector. Use enough of the fluid to get it aligned spot then work the air bubbles out. Watch it to make sure it stays adhered to the curve portions of the screen.
Just press and briefly hold if it lifts up. Use a little of the fluid if needed. If it ever lifts up on the sides later as long as no dust or dirt get under it, it can be reattached with a little water and pressing it down.
Leave it set up for at least a couple hours before using if possible. Mind the edges don't lift, usually after 10 minutes that's no longer an issue. Any small micro bubbles will be absorb in a few days... not big air bubbles though.
The Zizo Bolt is an excellent case for it.
That's all I use, zero damage in almost 3 years.
Enjoy, the Beast is a great phone!
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Get a couple, just in case. Things must be as dust free as possible ie spotless on the glass and room where applied. Don't touch the glass or back surface of the protector. Use enough of the fluid to get it aligned spot then work the air bubbles out. Watch it to make sure it stays adhered to the curve portions of the screen.
Just press and briefly hold if it lifts up. Use a little of the fluid if needed. If it ever lifts up on the sides later as long as no dust or dirt get under it, it can be reattached with a little water and pressing it down.
Leave it set up for at least a couple hours before using if possible. Mind the edges don't lift, usually after 10 minutes that's no longer an issue. Any small micro bubbles will be absorb in a few days... not big air bubbles though.
The Zizo Bolt is an excellent case for it.
That's all I use, zero damage in almost 3 years.
Enjoy, the Beast is a great phone!
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Thanks for the detailed tips, friend. Much appreciated. But exactly what screen protector are you referring to? The originally mentioned "Q Shield" variant? Or the one I mentioned already ordering, which is the Apiker random find off of Amazon.
If you're referring to a specific brand/model of protector, be it of the "Q Shield" sort or otherwise? Please send me a link if your able to do so.
As it turns out? The randomly ordered Apiker kit I bought from Amazon based solely on user reviews alone, has turned out to be pretty okay. As with many such products, especially those for phones with curved edges, there really is value in going over some install videos and what not but the first application turned out pretty damn good.
The kit came with 4 of everything so for the money and the fact that 2nd and further applications would of course be more intuitive, makes it a decent value.
Also, the Apiker screen kit I bought is not tempered glass but some other sort of material but still has a decent feel overall. The main thing I like is the thumb sensor is still every bit as sensitive/responsive as it was when using the naked, glass screen.
But send me some info on the kit you were referring to that uses what you called "fluid" ... I'll get one of those too lol!
And yeah, mang. Note10+ FTW! Mine was stolen about a week ago .. only time I've ever lost it ... but it wasn't 20 minutes before I'd ordered a new "refurb" off Ebay which I'm currently using now.
I tend to always buy whatever the flagship Sammy was 3 or so years ago and always end up saving tons of money and being very happy with whatever that ends up being. I bought a 1 day temp new Galaxy A12 at the local ATT shop to use till the Note10+ replacement came in and the Note10+ processing speed is WAY better than the A12, which frankly was just a sluggish dog in comparison.
Thanks again for the info..
"IQ Shield"
Get that screen protector replaced in an authorized repair center whether or not you have an active warranty.
Don't do any of the following:
don't attempt to replace it yourself no matter how simple it might seem to you
(The repair centers have a rig to assist them in doing this. And if you screw up, you could end up with a more serious problem.)
don't ignore it because it seems trivial or small
don't wait for the problem to "ripen" before acting
if your warranty has expired: don't decide that this doesn't warrant action
Why?
Over the past week or so, the protector started slowly separating down the crease area of the screen. So I brought it in to a local Samsung-authorized UbreakitIFixit by Asurion. The technician said he's seen a flow of these cases. I went a step further and said that I'm hearing that there are a number of people reporting cracked screens. He nodded and said that-- once the protector starts separating like mine was doing-- this starts to create a degree of pressure on the folding area of the screen. Basically he was telling me that what seems like a trivial cosmetic problem could turn into something far more serious. And expensive.
In my case, I bought my Z Fold 3 shortly before it was replaced by the Z Fold 4-- and I am still covered by the warranty. If you are in the same position, Samsung has what I would call a "silent recall" where they will cover a one-time screen protector replacement. Go to the Samsung service area on their website and avail yourself of this!
And if you are past the warranty, I'd urge you to take the precaution and pay to have the protector replaced-- you sure don't want to face a complete screen replacement-- you might not even consider the cost justifiable.
Apparently this is true; if cracked it will eventually take out the display. I was reading a review and that Australian reviewer didn't have kind things to say about this. He gives the protector a 4-6 month lifespan, if you make a year you're lucky.
He further said this has been a persistent issue; don't expect the next generation to be more durable.
Hmm, I have to replace my wife's every 4 months or so using the Orzero. It is a bit of a learning exercise, but not that hard(key it to do long side first and get the fold crease right at the start). YMMV.
xnappo said:
Hmm, I have to replace my wife's every 4 months or so using the Orzero. It is a bit of a learning exercise, but not that hard(key it to do long side first and get the fold crease right at the start). YMMV.
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Thanks for letting us know that you feel confident doing this yourself. I also see a YouTube demonstration video from the company. I'm not sure that I'd do a neat job but it's good to know that it's possible.
You also opened my eyes to the frequency of replacement that made sense to both of you,
The Whitestone protector comes with a rig so that you place it perfectly right. Only thing you need to worry about is dust getting under it as you're putting it on (some people do it in the bathroom after steaming it up with a hot shower).
My OEM protector lasted over a year. It did separate along the crease at the top and it kept getting longer and longer, so I finally replaced it after months of the separated area. The replacement brought back the anti-fingerprint feature which had worn off the original one, so I was happy about that for sure. Doing it once now, I'll probably replace it next once that anti-fingerprint feature has worn off again since it wasn't as bad/hard as I thought it would be. No need to be intimidated by it after all!
ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
The Whitestone protector comes with a rig so that you place it perfectly right. Only thing you need to worry about is dust getting under it as you're putting it on (some people do it in the bathroom after steaming it up with a hot shower).
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ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
No need to be intimidated by it after all!
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I have learned so much on xda-developers.com over the years. The two previous posts are really helpful. I found the Whitestone installation YouTube video and now I see how the jig works. I hope I won't have to replace the screen protector but now I realize a couple things:
It's wise to replace the inner screen protector once separation starts appearing
It's entirely possible to do the job myself if / when the warranty no longer applies.