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invisible shield

hi all
i've preordered a desire, it's my third htc device but the first device with capacitive display.
does anybody have experience with a capacitive display and invisible shield?
is this going to bite each other? maybe it's a stupid question, but i want to protect my brand new phone..
thank for replies!

I had Invisible Shield on my Hero, and it's useless. You won't get scratches on your screen, unless you try to make scratches.

I've tried this product on two phones - one capacitive multitouch - the other a bb bold. A waste of time and money for both. You'll be peeling it all off in a number of weeks as the edges get frayed and any speck of dust you trapped when 'installing' will drive you nuts!
Just stick with the phone - you'll be fine.

Yes is a waste of money and time. I have it on my HD and the stylus constantly get stuck cos is the shield is too soft... Don’t bother.

The desire will have a teflon layer on the screen. It makes sure you dont get fingerprints on your screen. If you put a screenprotector on it you will have fingerprints on your screen again. So I think it's even worse to put a screen protector on your screen.

Wow everyone is against the protective layer. I have had it on my Hero since minute one, for 5 months now, and until now you can't tell it's there. I also use the phone and play with it constantly.
I'm sure we all hate to see the screen get scratched right? so it's better safe than sorry, in my opinion. You just need to be extra careful when installing it to eliminate any apparent dust getting trapped.
I would also recommend buying and extra one for the long run.

thanks for all replies.
hmm.. i love my invisible shield on the diamond. it's no as slippery as the plastic back cover and if i write with the stylus it helps to. also i can put the desire on my car's dashboard and it's not slipping away (for navigation).
i think i'll buy a shield. if it's not good, i have removed it within a blink of an eye and my desire costs very little, so i can absorb this 30 $

So four 'no's and a maybe has translated into a yes??
So you either work for a certain protective screen supplier (as you specifically mentioned a brand) and are after cheap advertising.
Or you had made up your mind irrespective of people's time and opinion - which is just plain rude.

Agree with the others. It's a waste of money.
I had a shield on my Diamond, and I think it was needed on that one, but on my Hero it is absolutely not needed.
I've had my Hero for almost 8 months, and not a scratch. I've dropped it on the ground several times, but the screen remains as shiney as the day I got it.

pphillips001 said:
So four 'no's and a maybe has translated into a yes??
So you either work for a certain protective screen supplier (as you specifically mentioned a brand) and are after cheap advertising.
Or you had made up your mind irrespective of people's time and opinion - which is just plain rude.
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me? oh.. come on! i just want to know how other people think about this.
and a scratch-proof display is just a fairy-tale!! i think you work for a display company with this (really) scratch-proof display..
no way, buddy, really
edit: anyway, not every screen protector is equal to another and my first question was, if a protector stops the electrical field of the touchpanel... that's it..

I have a a Zagg one (same product) on my Zune HD. No isses here at all. Also put it on a Omnia HD this was a bit more problematic as it was my first time and the edges did fray but my Zune HD looks good as new .

Guys just watch this video to the end and I'm sure ALL of you will use the invisible shield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHhT1jalJg0&NR=1
At least with it on the screen you can confidently clean it when it gets to that.

salahag said:
Guys just watch this video to the end and I'm sure ALL of you will use the invisible shield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHhT1jalJg0&NR=1
At least with it on the screen you can confidently clean it when it gets to that.
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That video just tells me that the guy needs to wash his hands!

zaphyr said:
That video just tells me that the guy needs to wash his hands!
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yes, my thoughts exactly

He is sitting at a dinner table that has clearly just had dinner eaten from it and there is lot' of evidence that the food was sticky finger type stuff in fairness to the poor fella!
I will use a screen protector but defo not paying $30. When I got my G1 I used a razor blade to cut the little pull tab thing off the transit screen protector and left it in place until 2 weeks ago. 17 months! I still have the other one that came in the box! anyone want to buy it?

To screen protect or not screen protect...

To all my fellow HTC One X owners - are you using protection? LOL
I'm simply asking because I was wondering if anyone is going commando with the phone, and whether the screen has shown any scratches as a result? I know the phone is supposed to be sporting the all-powerful Gorilla Glass 2, but I don't trust it yet and so have put a screen protector on the front. This dulls the lustre of the screen a bit, so I am thinking of removing it.
How about yourselves? What has been your own personal choice?

you never know.
I got mine protected.

i saw a post about someone having scratches already. Then I viewed the crazy video of the gorilla glass2 scratch test performed by one *FINE* lady here in xda.
I decided to protect it then. the screen protector doesn't protect the whole screen though.
Edit: have to rephrase she's here now.

Sybregunne said:
i saw a post about someone having scratches already. Then I viewed the crazy video of the gorilla glass2 scratch test performed by one crazy lady here in xda.
I decided to protect it then. the screen protector doesn't protect the whole screen though.
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Heres the crazy lady - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590172
I used to have a screen protector on my sg2, then took it off after a year and it looked like a brand new phone, felt like i was missing out on the beautiful screen. I was going to get one for the one x, but I have extra insurance included in my phone contract against any kind of damage, accidental etc.. and it seems like it'll be hard to completely cover the glass, especially on the sides as I've seen on the forums that some people have had issues getting it to stay stuck.
I treat most things like they are a new born child when I first get them, then after a while, you get comfortable. I don't want to have this sexy looking phone and cover it with screen protectors and back covers - even if it did cost a lot of money.

one crazy lady here!
nah i'm not going to bother with a screen protector after my test i think....only thing i'm really concerned about is that camera lense. Would like to know what it's made of and how i can protect it (without sticking gel cases on the back etc)

It's funny that on these scratch tests the device never has any issues.
But reading on the forum some people do have scratches etc. just because they have keys and phone in same pocket... Makes you wonder, what kinda test did the scratchtester do with there HaitchTC One eX (Hahaha you crazy british people).

xmoo said:
It's funny that on these scratch tests the device never has any issues.
But reading on the forum some people do have scratches etc. just because they have keys and phone in same pocket... Makes you wonder, what kinda test did the scratchtester do with there HaitchTC One eX (Hahaha you crazy british people).
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My right pocket on any kind of clothing is my dedicated phone pocket. I put nothing in there with it aside from my smooth leather wallet. If you put keys in there and other sharp stuff, then it's your own fault in my opinion! You don't throw your house keys at your television or computer do you? So why throw them on your pride and joy mobile phone! hehee

Staceymobiler said:
one crazy lady here!
nah i'm not going to bother with a screen protector after my test i think....only thing i'm really concerned about is that camera lense. Would like to know what it's made of and how i can protect it (without sticking gel cases on the back etc)
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Why not get a screen protector and cut a small circle out of it and stick it over the camera?

Just got mine in the post, I'm going bare back!
Sent with Desire.

craftycarper1 said:
Why not get a screen protector and cut a small circle out of it and stick it over the camera?
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i think someone else did that and it didn't stick too well...also degraded image quality a little i think
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xmoo said:
It's funny that on these scratch tests the device never has any issues.
But reading on the forum some people do have scratches etc. just because they have keys and phone in same pocket... Makes you wonder, what kinda test did the scratchtester do with there HaitchTC One eX (Hahaha you crazy british people).
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LOL i attacked it with keys....as a test before i filmed i actually attacked it with a pair of nail scissors to make sure keys would be fine . Trust me i have been totally obsessing over the possibility of scratches...but nobody i have shown it to, and myself cant find a mark on it!

Staceymobiler said:
i think someone else did that and it didn't stick too well...also degraded image quality a little i think
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LOL i attacked it with keys....as a test before i filmed i actually attacked it with a pair of nail scissors to make sure keys would be fine . Trust me i have been totally obsessing over the possibility of scratches...but nobody i have shown it to, and myself cant find a mark on it!
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I'm not balming you. But same **** happend to me with HD2, DHD, SGS2.
Gorilla Glass my ass...
After owning the phone for like 6 months, check the screen again, can garantee you, you will find some small sand scratches.

You'll probably end up with scratches due to sand particles that somehow end up in your pockets. Basically metal won't scratch the glass, but sand will. I won't bother with a screen protector, but I do expect to see at least a couple of microscratches at some point in the near future.
To be honest the first one is the only one that hurts. After that it's bearable.

Spybreak said:
To be honest the first one is the only one that hurts. After that it's bearable.
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So true!

I dunno - technology these days. Screens can stand up to an assault from nail scissors. What's it going to be for Gorilla Glass 3? Attacks from ninjas armed with samurai swords?

I did
I got the original HTC screen films from an O2 shop yesterday. Went on easily and did not degrade the image quality or the touch sensitivity.

xmoo said:
So true!
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@moo what's with your avatar. Put some clothes on :-D
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

SORF said:
I got the original HTC screen films from an O2 shop yesterday. Went on easily and did not degrade the image quality or the touch sensitivity.
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I have the HTC branded screen protector on my Desire. It's been on since the day I got the phone around 18mths ago along with a case-mate Tough. The protector still looks like new, with one small scratch on it.
Having said that, I'm still on the fence about the One X screen. I'll probably go for another case-mate Tough as it has been worth the money on the Desire for the protection.

tids2k said:
@moo what's with your avatar. Put some clothes on :-D
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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That's mee showing my muscles xD

SORF said:
I got the original HTC screen films from an O2 shop yesterday. Went on easily and did not degrade the image quality or the touch sensitivity.
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I didn't like the official screen protectors, stuck onto the piece of card with some adhesive, by the time i had pulled them off (as carefully as possible) it left a dint in my screen protectors, both ended up with a horrible air bubble where the adhesive had warped the film.
I might just get a nice case and stick with it.
I'm just waiting to see whether i'm keeping it or selling it, i've been appalled by the battery life so far, but the screen seems to be the culprit, at minimum brightness, the screen eats 1% of the battery for ever 5-10 minutes it is on, hopeless when you're playing games, anyone know any solution to this apart from never playing games on the phone?

Wat screen protectors do you guys use?
I have the official HTC ones on mine. but they dont wrap around the edges. Which causes it to sort of "meh". The problem is that the edges of (my) official screen protector dont connect with the screen.
So I am wondering if there are any other brands that do not have this problem and I can order on ebay/amazon or some other website (I live in belgium )

[Q] Getting rid of screen scratches?

I've got these minute scratches on the WFS screen, 5-6 of them. Each a bit smaller than a millimetre and quite faint. Yes, I know, should have got myself a screen protector and the cause is most likely my pocket.
So I was wondering if anyone had any good experiences getting rid of scratches on a touch-screen? Of the ones I've come across, Displex seem to have mixed reviews about it. And there are some who swear by removing scratches using toothpaste. So before I do anything crazy, was just looking forward to get a second opinion.
PS. I've also come across articles about using cerium oxide and Brasso but I doubt they're safe to use on a touch-screen.

You could just replace the digitizer.

Thrawed said:
You could just replace the digitizer.
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Well, 30-odd quid and a lot of hard work doesn't seem right considering how minute the scuffs are. I can just as well live with it but yeah, getting rid of them or maybe making them less noticeable would be just great!

stitizz son,
What would happen if you place a screenprotector over the scratches?
I don't believe in polishing with tooth paste i used it before on a Nokia and i wasn't happy whith the result. But don't know if it was a glass screen.
I never use a phone, not for a day, whitout screenprotector i learned my lesson.
Joop

I wasn't too keen on the toothpaste thing either. But any product which may as well do the least bit something! It's sad, come to think about it, that there are so many such products in the market, and nobody's satisfied with their experience of it. I might well stick to applying a screen protector on top of the scuffs. Well, it'd atleast do a good job keeping future scuffs at bay if anything! Thanks though guys, appreciated.

Amzer Shatterproof Review

Well ladies and gents, just got my Amzer Shatterproof screen protector today, here are my initial thoughts: (refer to update for final thoughts)
40 dollars shipping is ridiculous (to Australia). It arrived in a large padded envelope which I think is rather poor for that price. I made some noise and had it discounted to 20 dollars but even that seems to dear for a padded envelope.
Not quite sure what to make out of packaging, photo's for you to judge to yourself...
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32846000/1.jpg
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Now for installation, followed instructions perfectly (supplied on packet) it was a dry install so I did it next to a running hot water tap. It all went smoothly until I tried pushing air bubbles out with their supplied card. For some reason there are hideous marks left by air bubbles as they travel towards the edge. It looks bloody terrible and I don't know whether or not to take it off, planning on leaving it on overnight and hope its a bit like zagg, disappearing as time goes on.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32846000/5.jpg
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Excuse the quality of the last 4 photos, taken from a very old camera.
There is also a noticeable scratch on the underside of the screen protector or something that's caused a line of discoloured pixels in the last picture.
Also, in my attempt of trying to push residual air out of these blemishes, I used my fingernail to apply pressure in hope that the blemishes would go away with proper contact to the screen (the card they provided wasn't doing anything at all). Turns out that fingernails scratch this screen protector, would have thought it was a little more resistant than that since my cheapo ones don't scratch from my fingernail... So blemishes didn't go away and the protector is scratched too...
Pros:
-Full screen coverage, no gaps on the side.
-No orange peel effect and while it isn't like my naked phone, its rather smooth.
Cons:
-Shipping was ridiculous to Australia, might be better to other places
-Getting rid of air bubbles seems to leave residual marks. Seems like you have to be a master and apply with no air bubbles for it to look good.
-Scratches rather easily and noticeably
-Not "self-healing"
Overall Verdict
Given that I had paid 50 dollars for this, (would have been 70 if I didn't complain), very dis-satisfied with this screen protector. A premium priced product shouldn't have these issues, my 1 dollar screen protectors didn't look like crap when I pushed air bubbles out, and its unacceptable that these have this problem. This is my first and probably will be my last purchase from Amzer.
Would love to hear if anyone else has had the same issues and me.
and...
Feel free to ask questions! if it doesn't clear up in the next few days I'll take it off, try find something else to put it on and do a drop test or scratch test to see if its really "shatterproof"
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Just to clarify: Protector itself cost 30 dollars, shipping was what sent it to the exuberant prices listed in my post.
Update: Also, there seems to be 0 improvement after: waiting/playing with phone/some more hopefully pressing. This thing looks so ugly I might have to take it off tomorrow to avoid showing it in public
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Update : 24/10/12 (the day after)
Ok so I woke up this morning and the marks from last night were still there. Hating the idea of wasting my money spent on this I decided to run an experiment: Turn something that was meant to be a dry install and make it a wet install.
The packaging describes a dry install, and I wasn't given any solution for a wet one... so I found some left over stuff from my Zagg Invisibleshield and went to work. After a bit of fiddling around and lots of spray (make sure phone is off when you're trying this), here are the results
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Sorry I didn't think of taking a photo this morning when it was looking crappy, you guys will have to trust me that it was terrible still... but the improvement after my experiment is remarkable. It isn't perfect, my camera can't capture some of the small blemishes under the protector but they are pretty much small enough to ignore, as is the dust that I can't quite get off the edge. Also you guys can see from picture 11 the scratches from my nail I was talking about. The screen protector also doesn't seem to be self healing,a few of the points where I had to force air bubbles out with my dry install still have "dents" so that could annoy some of you here.
Final thoughts? Given my crappy experience yesterday I would still probably not recommend this, especially if it stays a dry install. However in future if they change it to a wet install, that or you have a bottle of Zagg solution lying around and have already ordered this, it could be a good thing. I'm kind of happy with it now, I've now got a full screen coverage that I could use for a few weeks unless it gets terribly scratched and it is quite smooth to touch. Amzer need to work on their product pricing to make it much more reasonable... that and to increase scratch resistance of a product that is supposed to withstand bricks, hammers and the like.
Disclaimer: If you already have this and are trying a wet install, I by no means will take responsibility if you damage your device or if it doesn't work for you. This was my last hope and it managed to work (maybe by luck). If you do perform a wet install, do so at your own risk.
Update 27/10/12
Amzer have finally responded to my emails and after checking that I did follow all their installation instructions, have kindly offered to issue a replacement since they assure me it should not have this issue. Will let you know how my replacement goes

Good review!
Thanks for the input.

Thank you for this review, i was actually considering this since i've seen those crash videos (hammer, brick, etc). Not that i'm putting much faith in those but i figured this would always be better than having nothing or at least better than el cheapo $1 stuff from ebay.
I'm now very against buying this. No point in having a screen protector if the end result is that awfull (since it's application is such an hassle), i know i'd never be over that look and it would annoy me everytime i'd look at the screen. I'm actually thinking it may even affect the anti-shatter effect if it's not well applied (if such effect actually exists as they claim).
And that price range is far beyond ridiculous, a total deal breaker. I'd never buy a screen protector that would cost me about 1/4 of what i paid for my phone.
Again thank you for this review and putting up with all the hassle.

kaynpayn said:
Thank you for this review, i was actually considering this since i've seen those crash videos (hammer, brick, etc). Not that i'm putting much faith in those but i figured this would always be better than having nothing or at least better than el cheapo $1 stuff from ebay.
I'm now very against buying this. No point in having a screen protector if the end result is that awfull (since it's application is such an hassle), i know i'd never be over that look and it would annoy me everytime i'd look at the screen. I'm actually thinking it may even affect the anti-shatter effect if it's not well applied (if such effect actually exists as they claim).
And that price range is far beyond ridiculous, a total deal breaker. I'd never buy a screen protector that would cost me about 1/4 of what i paid for my phone.
Again thank you for this review and putting up with all the hassle.
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I was very much like that too, didn't think that it would stop a brick or hammer but on the off chance that anything did hit it, it might save my phone a lot of damage.
I pride myself in applying screen protectors well, nearly every single one I've done is bubble and blemish free but this was just beyond me, even a few hours after installation I don't think it's going to go away like the Zagg one.
To clarify, it's priced at 30 dollars which, while expensive, isn't too bad if it does protect the phone the way it is advertised. Just the shipping really blew it out of the water but I thought I'd take a gamble anyway

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I was very much like that too, didn't think that it would stop a brick or hammer but on the off chance that anything did hit it, it might save my phone a lot of damage.
I pride myself in applying screen protectors well, nearly every single one I've done is bubble and blemish free but this was just beyond me, even a few hours after installation I don't think it's going to go away like the Zagg one.
To clarify, it's priced at 30 dollars which, while expensive, isn't too bad if it does protect the phone the way it is advertised. Just the shipping really blew it out of the water but I thought I'd take a gamble anyway
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I am guilty of thinking that the most expensive product must be the best product. Great review.

Thanks for the review..was considering going with this but because of the price and your review I'll consider something else. Tried the DBA just like glass one too, didn't like that one either, only cover the actual screen display and have rainbow streaks..

A finger nail scratched it? Wow seems like you found its weakness.
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nice review, thanks!

Helpful review... But what the hell were you thinking paying over 30$ for a screen protector?
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Crisisx1 said:
Helpful review... But what the hell were you thinking paying over 30$ for a screen protector?
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
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I'm not quite sure what came across me at the time... was hoping it would live up to expectations and never have to buy a screen protector again. At any rate the protector was 30, but it was just shipping that was stupid...
I'm well aware of my idiocy lol but oh well, live and learn

Accessories Genuine inner screen protector replacement available now

Whitestone Dome just released a replacement screen protector for the inner folding display, which they advertise as the genuine Samsung film. It comes in a one-pack for $20 plus shipping on their site, or $18 with free Prime shipping on Amazon. It includes a jig to help with alignment and they advertise a bubble free installation.
Just thought I'd mention it for those looking to replace their inner screen protector, but want the original film (which in my opinion is fantastic). But mine has picked up a few hairline scratches and I may replace it soon.
Whitestone Dome [Samsung Genuine Film] for Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 Dome Genuine Film Screen Protector Anti-Bubble HD Clear PET Film Screen Guard for Galaxy Z Fold 3 (2021) https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B09LV4W...abc_5256ME01VCGKQN1GVWZS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
[Gen Film] Galaxy Z Fold 3 Gen Film Screen Protector with Installation Jig - Anti-Bubble, HD Clear, PET Film
Oneplus 8T Tempered Glass Screen Protector EZ installation. Edge to edge protection while providing the perfect clarity and touch sensitivity. 3 Pack glass and easy installation tool included.
www.whitestonedome.com

Why is this post marked as an question?

TrulyPain said:
Why is this post marked as an question?
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Because I didn't mean to mark it as a question. I fixed it. I hope it didn't disturb your evening too terribly that it was miscategorized.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Because I didn't mean to mark it as a question. I fixed it. I hope it didn't disturb your evening too terribly that it was miscategorized.
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Okay good, I just thought you might just forgot to write your question. Therefore I did politely ask why it was marked as an question.

In my country they say removing original screen protector voids warranty

klemen241 said:
In my country they say removing original screen protector voids warranty
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In US at least it was clarified that removing it doesn't void the warranty. But if you damage the screen while removing it, it's not covered.

None of the display disassemble is easy on this model. You better know what you're doing, and have steady nerves and hands... and a near clean room environment be nice to have.
I have zero faith in Whitestone based on their lame of customer support and poor QC that I unfortunately witnessed myself.
OEM parts by Samsung certified repair center is the safest bet...

I just received my screen protector today from Amazon. I don't plan on installing it yet, as my factory screen protector is still in great shape with only a few surface scratches. I basically bought this out of curiosity and to have a back up if I need it.
Again, this is marketed as the genuine Samsung film, meaning it's the OEM replacement film for the ZF3. It comes with a jig to assure perfect alignment, and they advertise a bubble free installation. I can't attest to that since I haven't installed it, but a dust free environment would be ideal. No different than any other screen protector installation.
The film is the EXACT same size as the factory applied film. It is not the $90 UTG film that Whitestone originally marketed, which also seems to no longer be available on their site. I have no doubts about the quality. WSD has a great reputation amongst users here, and I'm currently using their EZ glass protector on the outer screen, and it's fantastic and was super easy to install.
As far as what @blackhawk said, you can safely ignore him and his comments. He has been trashing the ZF2 and the ZF3 since they were released, despite the fact that he's never owned either device and says he will never own them. He often makes false claims about the devices and Samsung in general. He is a troll that goes to different forums here just to trash talk devices. I actually have him on my ignore list, but his comments still appear sometimes. But he's just trolling this thread, too. He doesn't own this device, obviously has NO clue how to install a screen protector on it, and I doubt he has any experience with any WSD product.
There is NO disassembly of the display required at all. You're merely peeling the factory screen protector off. It does not require skill or nerves of steel. Simply watching a YouTube video will show you how easily the factory film is removed. Obviously you can always go to a Samsung certified repair shop like UBreakIFix or Best Buy, but this is the genuine film and can easily be installed at home. Run the shower, steam up your bathroom to knock dust out of the air, and just be patient and careful. Same method I've used for years to install all different types of screen protectors.
This video shows installation of WSD Silk UTG screen protector, but the jig and installation for the genuine film is identical. As you can see, it's pretty straightforward.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I just received my screen protector today from Amazon. I don't plan on installing it yet, as my factory screen protector is still in great shape with only a few surface scratches. I basically bought this out of curiosity and to have a back up if I need it.
Again, this is marketed as the genuine Samsung film, meaning it's the OEM replacement film for the ZF3. It comes with a jig to assure perfect alignment, and they advertise a bubble free installation. I can't attest to that since I haven't installed it, but a dust free environment would be ideal. No different than any other screen protector installation.
The film is the EXACT same size as the factory applied film. It is not the $90 UTG film that Whitestone originally marketed, which also seems to no longer be available on their site. I have no doubts about the quality. WSD has a great reputation amongst users here, and I'm currently using their EZ glass protector on the outer screen, and it's fantastic and was super easy to install.
As far as what @blackhawk said, you can safely ignore him and his comments. He has been trashing the ZF2 and the ZF3 since they were released, despite the fact that he's never owned either device and says he will never own them. He often makes false claims about the devices and Samsung in general. He is a troll that goes to different forums here just to trash talk devices. I actually have him on my ignore list, but his comments still appear sometimes. But he's just trolling this thread, too. He doesn't nt own this device, obviously has MO clue how to install a screen protector on it, and I doubt he has any experience with any WSD product.
There is NO disassembly of the display required at all. You're merely peeling the factory screen protector off. It does not require skill or nerves of steel. Simply watching a YouTube video will show you how easily the factory film is removed. Obviously you can always go to a Samsung certified repair shop like UBreakIFix or Best Buy, but this is the genuine film and can easily be installed at home. Run the shower, steam up your bathroom to knock dust out of the air, and just be patient and careful. Same method I've used for years to install all different types of screen protectors.
This video shows installation of WSD Silk UTG screen protector, but the jig and installation for the genuine film is identical. As you can see, it's pretty straightforward.
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I wuv you too.
How many can you repeat yourself, weak sauce?
Me not owning this device doesn't change the materials or design of it... unfortunately.
By all means show us how well your do it self repair went. You probably should have got two, you'll need the practice.
Someone who has done dozens of them knows the tricks you don't. They get paid to learn by their failures, do you?
You'll be looking at every day for hours, that's why you pay a skilled tech to do it.
Anyone can buy 2 quarts of urethane car paint, the trick is putting it on.

blackhawk said:
I wuv you too.
How many can you repeat yourself, weak sauce?
Me not owning this device doesn't change the materials or design of it... unfortunately.
By all means show us how well your do it self repair went. You probably should have got two, you'll need the practice.
Someone who has done dozens of them knows the tricks you don't. They get paid to learn by their failures, do you?
You'll be looking at every day for hours, that's why you pay a skilled tech to do it.
Anyone can buy 2 quarts of urethane car paint, the trick is putting it on.
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Literally none of your rambling response made any sense at all. But thanks for attempting to communicate and successfully hijacking yet another thread with your utter nonsense.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I just received my screen protector today from Amazon. I don't plan on installing it yet, as my factory screen protector is still in great shape with only a few surface scratches. I basically bought this out of curiosity and to have a back up if I need it.
Again, this is marketed as the genuine Samsung film, meaning it's the OEM replacement film for the ZF3. It comes with a jig to assure perfect alignment, and they advertise a bubble free installation. I can't attest to that since I haven't installed it, but a dust free environment would be ideal. No different than any other screen protector installation.
The film is the EXACT same size as the factory applied film. It is not the $90 UTG film that Whitestone originally marketed, which also seems to no longer be available on their site. I have no doubts about the quality. WSD has a great reputation amongst users here, and I'm currently using their EZ glass protector on the outer screen, and it's fantastic and was super easy to install.
As far as what @blackhawk said, you can safely ignore him and his comments. He has been trashing the ZF2 and the ZF3 since they were released, despite the fact that he's never owned either device and says he will never own them. He often makes false claims about the devices and Samsung in general. He is a troll that goes to different forums here just to trash talk devices. I actually have him on my ignore list, but his comments still appear sometimes. But he's just trolling this thread, too. He doesn't own this device, obviously has NO clue how to install a screen protector on it, and I doubt he has any experience with any WSD product.
There is NO disassembly of the display required at all. You're merely peeling the factory screen protector off. It does not require skill or nerves of steel. Simply watching a YouTube video will show you how easily the factory film is removed. Obviously you can always go to a Samsung certified repair shop like UBreakIFix or Best Buy, but this is the genuine film and can easily be installed at home. Run the shower, steam up your bathroom to knock dust out of the air, and just be patient and careful. Same method I've used for years to install all different types of screen protectors.
This video shows installation of WSD Silk UTG screen protector, but the jig and installation for the genuine film is identical. As you can see, it's pretty straightforward.
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This is great, thanks. I generally avoid expensive screen protection because I'm absolutely useless at applying it. This video shows why you'd invest in this protector. It seems that even I could manage it.
Thanks for the shower tip too!

jeromepearce said:
This is great, thanks. I generally avoid expensive screen protection because I'm absolutely useless at applying it. This video shows why you'd invest in this protector. It seems that even I could manage it.
Thanks for the shower tip too!
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No problem at all! Shower works a treat for minimizing dust in the air. I run te shower and the faucet on hot. When the mirror steams up, you should be good.

Pretty cool that this is available. Unfortunately, I haven't had much luck with Whitestone on my N20U and Fold2. Fortunately, still no scratches on either factory screen protector. My Fold3 is a first release device and I use the s pen multiple times per day. I am very happy with my inner screen experience this go around. Mine still feels like actual glass.
On a side note, I'm really happy to see the Fold3 getting more love with the accessories than the Fold2 did. Makes me hopeful that the line itself has gained popularity and with what to expect with the 4th iteration.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I just received my screen protector today from Amazon. I don't plan on installing it yet, as my factory screen protector is still in great shape with only a few surface scratches. I basically bought this out of curiosity and to have a back up if I need it.
Again, this is marketed as the genuine Samsung film, meaning it's the OEM replacement film for the ZF3. It comes with a jig to assure perfect alignment, and they advertise a bubble free installation. I can't attest to that since I haven't installed it, but a dust free environment would be ideal. No different than any other screen protector installation.
The film is the EXACT same size as the factory applied film. It is not the $90 UTG film that Whitestone originally marketed, which also seems to no longer be available on their site. I have no doubts about the quality. WSD has a great reputation amongst users here, and I'm currently using their EZ glass protector on the outer screen, and it's fantastic and was super easy to install.
As far as what @blackhawk said, you can safely ignore him and his comments. He has been trashing the ZF2 and the ZF3 since they were released, despite the fact that he's never owned either device and says he will never own them. He often makes false claims about the devices and Samsung in general. He is a troll that goes to different forums here just to trash talk devices. I actually have him on my ignore list, but his comments still appear sometimes. But he's just trolling this thread, too. He doesn't own this device, obviously has NO clue how to install a screen protector on it, and I doubt he has any experience with any WSD product.
There is NO disassembly of the display required at all. You're merely peeling the factory screen protector off. It does not require skill or nerves of steel. Simply watching a YouTube video will show you how easily the factory film is removed. Obviously you can always go to a Samsung certified repair shop like UBreakIFix or Best Buy, but this is the genuine film and can easily be installed at home. Run the shower, steam up your bathroom to knock dust out of the air, and just be patient and careful. Same method I've used for years to install all different types of screen protectors.
This video shows installation of WSD Silk UTG screen protector, but the jig and installation for the genuine film is identical. As you can see, it's pretty straightforward.
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I'm sorry but why people take critique of a devices or companie so personal? In my opinion i don't care if it's Apple or Samsung or any other producer. What counts is the quality and the hardware plus the service. If all 3 criterias are given i will buy there product. Regarding the ZFold 2 and 3. This devices are a expensive jokes. If i can damage a display while taking off a screen protector, or by pressing a little to hard with my nail it's rubbish. If the display creates a ugly white line with dead pixels by itself, where the crease is and Samsung has the audacity to say it's costumer induced damage one can only shake his head. If you buy the 2k mobile and after 2-3 openings the display cracks, i can only shake my head and say what we're they thinking. This technology is totally unreliable and basically useless. Keep babying your fragile mobile and hope Samsung has mercy on your soul when the display goes bye bye. On ebay are many zflips and zfolds with exactly the damage i described. Sure compared to the millions sold, not all will show this flaw. But all are prone to be damaged by anything as hard as a fingernail.

From0toHero said:
I'm sorry but why people take critique of a devices or companie so personal? In my opinion i don't care if it's Apple or Samsung or any other producer. What counts is the quality and the hardware plus the service. If all 3 criterias are given i will buy there product. Regarding the ZFold 2 and 3. This devices are a expensive jokes. If i can damage a display while taking off a screen protector, or by pressing a little to hard with my nail it's rubbish. If the display creates a ugly white line with dead pixels by itself, where the crease is and Samsung has the audacity to say it's costumer induced damage one can only shake his head. If you buy the 2k mobile and after 2-3 openings the display cracks, i can only shake my head and say what we're they thinking. This technology is totally unreliable and basically useless. Keep babying your fragile mobile and hope Samsung has mercy on your soul when the display goes bye bye. On ebay are many zflips and zfolds with exactly the damage i described. Sure compared to the millions sold, not all will show this flaw. But all are prone to be damaged by anything as hard as a fingernail.
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I see your point. This phone is NOT for everyone. I would not even consider getting this for my son. No, it would not last. He can juggle phone and tablet. For me, who does NOT "baby" my phone, but don't abuse it as well, it's great. A friend who works construction thought about it and I talked him out of it because of his work environment, this phone would not hold up.
Calling this device a "joke", I think is not right and just going to show how narrow your view on new tech really is. It's "Bleeding Edge" and most of us that bought this are okay with having to be a little more careful with our device because of the new tech and the delicacy of the first few generations of a device of this type.
All in all, everyone is going to have different views and attitudes to new tech. If you have no interest here, hijacking a thread to bash on a device is just childish. If you don't like this device, have no interest in it, well, do the smart thing, stay out of the forum for the phone and it won't cause you any issues regardless of what someone posts here.
Just my perspective.

From0toHero said:
I'm sorry but why people take critique of a devices or companie so personal? In my opinion i don't care if it's Apple or Samsung or any other producer. What counts is the quality and the hardware plus the service. If all 3 criterias are given i will buy there product. Regarding the ZFold 2 and 3. This devices are a expensive jokes. If i can damage a display while taking off a screen protector, or by pressing a little to hard with my nail it's rubbish. If the display creates a ugly white line with dead pixels by itself, where the crease is and Samsung has the audacity to say it's costumer induced damage one can only shake his head. If you buy the 2k mobile and after 2-3 openings the display cracks, i can only shake my head and say what we're they thinking. This technology is totally unreliable and basically useless. Keep babying your fragile mobile and hope Samsung has mercy on your soul when the display goes bye bye. On ebay are many zflips and zfolds with exactly the damage i described. Sure compared to the millions sold, not all will show this flaw. But all are prone to be damaged by anything as hard as a fingernail.
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So this thread is about a genuine inner screen protector. There's a general discussion about the phone in another thread. But I will say almost everything you just said is completely untrue. And Ive used both the ZF2 and ZF3 as daily drivers and I don't baby them at all.
I don't take anyone's opinions personally. At all. I don't give AF what phone you like, don't like, use, don't use. I just get frustrated when I come here to help other users and get help, then people like you hijack threads with misinformation and just trash talk a device you've never used, and know nothing about. If you have to lie about a phone to discourage others from using it, or justifying why you don't like it, then you're obviously the one taking it personal.
So take your opinions and misinformation to the general discussion thread. Please and thank you.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
So this thread is about a genuine inner screen protector. There's a general discussion about the phone in another thread. But I will say almost everything you just said is completely untrue. And Ive used both the ZF2 and ZF3 as daily drivers and I don't baby them at all.
I don't take anyone's opinions personally. At all. I don't give AF what phone you like, don't like, use, don't use. I just get frustrated when I come here to help other users and get help, then people like you hijack threads with misinformation and just trash talk a device you've never used, and know nothing about. If you have to lie about a phone to discourage others from using it, or justifying why you don't like it, then you're obviously the one taking it personal.
So take your opinions and misinformation to the general discussion thread. Please and thank you.
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I agree completely and that is the last I will say about this...
Now, back to the OP.
I watched install vids for the $90 trash they had out before and it looked daunting, at best. Does this one have the same installation?

Talderon said:
I agree completely and that is the last I will say about this...
Now, back to the OP.
I watched install vids for the $90 trash they had out before and it looked daunting, at best. Does this one have the same installation?
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As far as I can tell yes. It comes with the exact same jig

Mr. Orange 645 said:
As far as I can tell yes. It comes with the exact same jig
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Well, I am not sure I am skilled enough to get this installed. I would have to see if my Bro can do it if and when I need one. That dude has installed more WDS protectors that anyone I know (in the hundreds).

Talderon said:
Well, I am not sure I am skilled enough to get this installed. I would have to see if my Bro can do it if and when I need one. That dude has installed more WDS protectors that anyone I know (in the hundreds).
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It actually looks pretty straight forward. There's no liquid adhesive on this. It's a dry install. It comes with a jig that lines everything up and you just press it down with a squeeqee. I posted a link to a video showing the installation earlier in the thread.