When I read the HTC Desire user manual, it said that I need to turn on the "Data Connection" setting to have internet connection.
Well, this is understandable ... but, does it has automatic connection on demand?
On Windows Mobile, I dont have to specifically turn on data connection. Whenever an app is trying to reach the internet, it will turn on the data connection automatically.
And of course, it will turn-off the data connection automatically as well, when there is no internet network activity.
Does this also the same in Android?
It should turn on automaticly when you try to use online services...
But you can turn it on in Wireless & Network
You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.
By default MENU -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile network was off on my device, meaning it would not connect to internet via 3G (I could still make/receive calls). However, I chose to use WiFi for set-up when I first started the phone, so maybe that's why.
Anyway, I guess that is the setting they are talking about.
Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
Zappza said:
You have to option to turn mobile data off, that is why it specifies that you need a data connection.
If you do not turn it off, apps that require internet access will use it with no further interaction.
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gogol said:
Thanks for your information, but that raise a question:
When I switch off the data connection and also switch off the background data option.
Will the HTC Weather widget (and other similar widget) still work with auto-updating periodically?
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NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...
So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
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NO... they need either 3G or WiFi connection to update...
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I do remember the old days of the HTC Hero which had the option of background data usage. I think that was more to do with the version of Android than anything else. I recently had the Nexus One and on the new 2.1 version of Android, you can either switch data on or off, no automated connections on data usage.
When the phone is sleeping (screen off) nearly everything is powered down anyway, even if the data connection is 'on'. Apps will wake the device (an power up radios as required) to do their updates when they need to.
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So, that means ... those apps cannot wake up (turn-on) the data connection automatically if needed (on-demand) ...
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The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.
Ok then
I think it has different meaning compared to the Windows Mobile.
In the COMM MANAGER, there is "Data Connection" toggle which normally is OFF. And this does not mean that the device cannot use 3G data connection.
While on Android, its data connection toggle setting means to enable or disable 3G data connection completely.
I think that is the difference, if we look from Windows Mobile point of view.
Thanks.
Zappza said:
The whole idea of being able to turn your mobile data connection off is to disable mobile data completely. This is a very good option if you are roaming in a foreign country or don't have a fixed data plan.
If you leave the mobile data connection to enabled, applications will "turn-on" the data connection if needed (on-demand). In other words, if the mobile data connection is enabled, the mobile data connection will be in standby, waiting for applications to request use of the connection.
Hope this clarifies it for you, as you appeared to misunderstand my last post.
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Hey guys i got a question for you. How can I be able to turn on Data saver and still use my nexus 5x, that is running on nougat 7.1.1, as a hotspot? The reason i want to do this is not to allow apps on my phone to use any connection but still be able to allow other computers to connect to my hotspot. The minute i turn on the hotspot when data saver is on it turns off and vice versa. I belive I can allow certain apps and system stuff on the list of allowed apps when data saver is on, but which one is the hotspot? Any advice is highly appreciated.
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Hey guys i got a question for you. How can I be able to turn on Data saver and still use my nexus 5x, that is running on nougat 7.1.1, as a hotspot? The reason i want to do this is not to allow apps on my phone to use any connection but still be able to allow other computers to connect to my hotspot. The minute i turn on the hotspot when data saver is on it turns off and vice versa. I belive I can allow certain apps and system stuff on the list of allowed apps when data saver is on, but which one is the hotspot? Any advice is highly appreciated.
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I am myself looking for that answer.... although i am running pixel UI rom on lenovo A7000.... i have same problem
Unlike Lollipop also AndroidOne has the same bad implementing. I think Google does the telecomproviders a favour here. Enabling hotspot disables auto saver permanently and without notice.
This leads to unexpected costs.
I was thinking about an independant hotspot app that gets an mobile data background data exception but it appears hey all use the android functionality.
My RN5Pro functions correctly with a Wifi connection, but once I leave my house outside of Wifi coverage, going to an area with no Wifi or mobile 4G/3G/2G signal for several minutes (eg. lifts or basement carpark), when I re-entered into an area with Mobile coverage, the phone would connect to mobile 4G/3G/2G showing full signal strength, but the Internet communication would not function correctly. I can not access most websites, I can hear instant messages coming in (Wechat or Line), but I can not open any messages and I can not send any messages out, applications such as Google Map also can not access any data.
I would the need to manually switch off mobile data, then turn back on the mobile data for the phone to access Internet correctly.
The problem started with MIUI Global Stable 10.2.1.0, the problem remained with 10.2.2.0 and the latest 10.3.1.0.
This problem does not exist with 10.0.6.0 and earlier ROMs.
It seems that somehow the DNS is messed up in the background, mobile connectivity is present, but not all data gets through correctly.
Are there anyone on this forum experiencing similar problems? This issue has been reported by many users in my local MIUI community, but the Mi Service Center is not responding or acting on the problem.
Hi folks,
I've been offline for a while from the forums - does anyone know if there is a ROM which basically doesn't have anything on it with telemetry or background network traffic for Google services or anything else, obviously other than the phone calls or texts.
Anyone have good information as to what type of network traffic occurs on the retail ROM from Google?
If you're wondering, I'm asking because I have an interest in tethering via USB and I'd like to ensure the device or its apps/services are not using any bandwidth in the background while on the tether.
I would check out gappless cosp, carbon or maybe /e/OS
I am wondering if anyone has found a way to hide hotspot data traffic on OOS from a carrier. On custom roms my carrier doesnt know the difference between hotspot and normal data the hotspot usage never shows any in my account. I am supposed to get capped at 15gb of hotspot data and I am afraid if I go back to OOS they will see that usage and it will get capped again. Wouldnt be a huge issue but I live in an area where satellite or cellular internet are really the only options. Thanks
I would stay on the custom rom's that works. If you had Samsung Dex that give you another potential work around. The carrier may eventually get wise and modify their protocols.
It seems this battle of wits has been going on for years. Hotspot apps are released, work for a while then fail.
My solution was to use Android to do everything on the internet, my laptop stays safely isolated from the outside world. I even do any downloads I need with my N10+. My Android superceded my PC years ago. Even has more ram
This is an interesting problem and is in part dependent on the carrier. I understand Verizon is one of the worst to hack like this. My unlimited data plan is grandfathered but my hotspot data is limited to 15gb as well. I can burn that up in a day or two without even trying
It's ridiculous.
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I am wondering if anyone has found a way to hide hotspot data traffic on OOS from a carrier. On custom roms my carrier doesnt know the difference between hotspot and normal data the hotspot usage never shows any in my account. I am supposed to get capped at 15gb of hotspot data and I am afraid if I go back to OOS they will see that usage and it will get capped again. Wouldnt be a huge issue but I live in an area where satellite or cellular internet are really the only options. Thanks
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Yep, download VPN Hotspot and have all your traffic run through it. I haven't had an issue and never gotten throttled.
GitHub - Mygod/VPNHotspot: Share your VPN connection over hotspot or repeater! (root required)
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Yep, download VPN Hotspot and have all your traffic run through it. I haven't had an issue and never gotten throttled.
GitHub - Mygod/VPNHotspot: Share your VPN connection over hotspot or repeater! (root required)
Share your VPN connection over hotspot or repeater! (root required) - GitHub - Mygod/VPNHotspot: Share your VPN connection over hotspot or repeater! (root required)
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+1 for this
Android 10 and before was easy with adb/terminal or modules but since Android 11, I use Hotspot VPN.
You need root, enable it and turn on wlan0. If you add it to quick toggle tiles, you can just tap the tile twice and it'll start and turn wlan0 on for you.
It removes the speed limit throttle of 600kbps on tmo as well.
I use the playstore version: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.mygod.vpnhotspot
Edit2: you may NEED to turn off "Tethering hardware acceleration" in developer settings