I have had a problem that's grown worse over time with my G2. I've noticed the phone will be snappy, fresh after flashing, but over time, it will start to slow down. I chalked it up to it just needing a good flash every once in a while. However, it's gotten to the point it will become laggy/unresponsive within a day or two now. During these periods of lag I have managed to make it struggle to the running applications screen, where I have noticed that the lag is correlated with background applications restarting themselves. Google maps, Google Voice, and Waze are usually restarting (sometimes a few times before becoming stable), and I think Imo messenger might be doing the same. Once all the background apps are done restarting, everything returns to normal. I notice these apps all require some sort of radio use, and that the app I am actively using usually will only slow down, but not crash.
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I have had a problem that's grown worse over time with my G2. I've noticed the phone will be snappy, fresh after flashing, but over time, it will start to slow down. I chalked it up to it just needing a good flash every once in a while. However, it's gotten to the point it will become laggy/unresponsive within a day or two now. During these periods of lag I have managed to make it struggle to the running applications screen, where I have noticed that the lag is correlated with background applications restarting themselves. Google maps, Google Voice, and Waze are usually restarting (sometimes a few times before becoming stable), and I think Imo messenger might be doing the same. Once all the background apps are done restarting, everything returns to normal. I notice these apps all require some sort of radio use, and that the app I am actively using usually will only slow down, but not crash.
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I have very similar issue. Soundhound oo, maps, Droid are trying to restart when it happens... I think it might be because we run out of memory... but I don't know why Android try to restart those processes so hard then.
Forgot to say I have a Galaxy S with CM 10.1
For me most of these issues go away once I set limit of background processes to 2. Even application install doesn't hand phone as before. OC also helps I guess.
Hi.!
I have a disturbing problem with my gnex.
Running Xylon 14 stable with franco kernel. I always use latest version of everything.
But my problem comes from past time and still continues.
When i install an app, from market, from blackmkrt or as an apk doesnt matter my phone frozes for 30 secs.
I cant do anything while doing that. Then it comes back to normal.
Its really annoying cuz sometimes play store crashes because of that, my navbar goes then comes back.
i have over 140 apps installed and i always flash roms wiping data and cache. always clean install.
but restoring apps from titanium backup.
When i do clean flash, if i install anything from anywhere, nothing happens, my phone acts normal.
Is this related to titanium backup? or Rom problem (Which i dont think so) or Related to so many apps installed.
Thank you..
Probably one of the apps u r restoring using Titanium Backup is giving u problem. I would do a clean install and download/install the apps one by one instead of restoring them with titanium backup. I know is painful doing this for 140+ apps but I don't think u use all of them.
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jjjameson said:
Hi.!
I have a disturbing problem with my gnex.
Running Xylon 14 stable with franco kernel. I always use latest version of everything.
But my problem comes from past time and still continues.
When i install an app, from market, from blackmkrt or as an apk doesnt matter my phone frozes for 30 secs.
I cant do anything while doing that. Then it comes back to normal.
Its really annoying cuz sometimes play store crashes because of that, my navbar goes then comes back.
i have over 140 apps installed and i always flash roms wiping data and cache. always clean install.
but restoring apps from titanium backup.
When i do clean flash, if i install anything from anywhere, nothing happens, my phone acts normal.
Is this related to titanium backup? or Rom problem (Which i dont think so) or Related to so many apps installed.
Thank you..
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I'm having the same issue, not quite as bad as 30 secs, but my phone will practically lock up when installing or uninstalling apps, or just any general file operation. I am also using xylon (16-1, also tried 19 and tried xenonhd latest). Tried multiple kernels doesn't seem to make any difference.
If you haven't already tried using Lagfix from the market, that might just fix your problem, I think it worked for me a couple times but I'm not 100%. Now it doesn't see to help at all.
Yesterday I decided to wipe everything and install from scratch, installing all apps from the market, and a few manually, it seemed better at first. Then I restored a few remaining apps with Titanium Backup (i needed to restore the data and app). Not sure if thats made it worse or not but it still hangs when installing/uninstalling apps. Very frustrating, after I spent probably over 4 hours (I have a lot of apps).
Seems like the CPU clock gets maxed out when this happens, but I can't see high usage from any apps in particular... I know this is not normal behavior because last week my phone was running perfectly with same rom and kernel, it would not lag/freeze when doing any file transfers or installs etc..
Wish I could pinpoint this issue its really driving me nuts. However I think you should definitely try Lagfix it might fix your issue.
i had the same thing happening on every rom/ kernel i tried .
and i also noticed that the cpu usage spikes to 100% for the time the device locks up.
i also noticed unusual high cpu usage whenever i/o was happening.
so i finally returned to stock and have not had any lock ups yet and the cpu never goes to 100% during i/o. its also high, but not maxed out.
i also noticed this on other devices with custom roms which makes me believe that it has to do with some stuff that was changed in the rom or kernel.
i will stay on stock for some time to see if the lockup will come back because everybody tells me it will... so i will report back in a couple of days and let you know if it started to lag.
oh and i restored all apps with titan backup like i had them in the custom rom so this can not be the issue.
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grognaz said:
i had the same thing happening on every rom/ kernel i tried .
and i also noticed that the cpu usage spikes to 100% for the time the device locks up.
i also noticed unusual high cpu usage whenever i/o was happening.
so i finally returned to stock and have not had any lock ups yet and the cpu never goes to 100% during i/o. its also high, but not maxed out.
i also noticed this on other devices with custom roms which makes me believe that it has to do with some stuff that was changed in the rom or kernel.
i will stay on stock for some time to see if the lockup will come back because everybody tells me it will... so i will report back in a couple of days and let you know if it started to lag.
oh and i restored all apps with titan backup like i had them in the custom rom so this can not be the issue.
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I can confirm the high CPU usage during the heavy i/o was happening. My phone would run cpu clock maxed, and then gets hot. One of the processes using a lot of CPU was System or System UI. I was also getting system ui crashes, without a error message though, it would just close and restart system UI by itself. When I checked battery stats showed Android_System which is System UI I believe.
I'm going to try again from scratch with a custom rom (one that was at one point not giving me problems xylon 16-1). This time i'm going to wipe everything including the internal SD.
AFAIK dalvik cache is generating right after installing app. Its like boot time increases after wiping dalvik cache.
And if so - its might be CPU greedy =.)
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AFAIK dalvik cache is generating right after installing app. Its like boot time increases after wiping dalvik cache.
And if so - its might be CPU greedy =.)
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I see, maybe there is something gone wrong with the dalvik cache or something (I have no clue about dalvik cache) Is there perhaps an upper limit to the number of apps where the dalvik cache gets full or too large that would cause this issue? I've wiped cache and dalvik cache quite often (when trying other kernels recently) and it didn't seem to help the issue.
I went ahead and wiped everything went back to stock 4.2.1, installed 50+ apps via the market, phone barely got warm, and everything continued smoothly no freezing or high cpu usage during this (normally have 175+ apps installed).
I will test restoring app my other apps via Titanium Backup on the stock ROM and see what happens. Will report back...
I don't think I will stay on the stock rom for much longer, there are quite a few tweaks in these custom roms that I'm missing. But I will keep testing for now.
Thanks,
EDIT: Restored my missing apps with titanium (total 104 user apps) and everything is still smooth, including when installing and uninstalling apps from the play store etc... Will wait and see if that changes though.
quick_ said:
I see, maybe there is something gone wrong with the dalvik cache or something (I have no clue about dalvik cache) Is there perhaps an upper limit to the number of apps where the dalvik cache gets full or too large that would cause this issue? I've wiped cache and dalvik cache quite often (when trying other kernels recently) and it didn't seem to help the issue.
I went ahead and wiped everything went back to stock 4.2.1, installed 50+ apps via the market, phone barely got warm, and everything continued smoothly no freezing or high cpu usage during this (normally have 175+ apps installed).
I will test restoring app my other apps via Titanium Backup on the stock ROM and see what happens. Will report back...
I don't think I will stay on the stock rom for much longer, there are quite a few tweaks in these custom roms that I'm missing. But I will keep testing for now.
Thanks,
EDIT: Restored my missing apps with titanium (total 104 user apps) and everything is still smooth, including when installing and uninstalling apps from the play store etc... Will wait and see if that changes though.
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Humm, I have the same terrible performance from Play Store. XENON HD Stable 4.0 and Franco kernel r364, although the problem goes back through many prior versions of this ROM and kernel.
I have almost 300 apps on the device, and Play Store seems to be the only one that kills the system. I'm also running the "seeder" app, which helped eliminate all other lag on the device FWIW.
A solution would be awesome, but for now, I just walk away from my comm dev and interact with the spousal unit. Strange, I know.
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Humm, I have the same terrible performance from Play Store. XENON HD Stable 4.0 and Franco kernel r364, although the problem goes back through many prior versions of this ROM and kernel.
I have almost 300 apps on the device, and Play Store seems to be the only one that kills the system. I'm also running the "seeder" app, which helped eliminate all other lag on the device FWIW.
A solution would be awesome, but for now, I just walk away from my comm dev and interact with the spousal unit. Strange, I know.
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I should have updated earlier.
What I did was wipe everything including internal sd, then installed paranoid android rom, installed ak.Dummy kernel 673. Let the play store restore all my apps. Everything was smooth as hell almost 24hrs running so perfectly I was even running max cpu at 920mhz, everything was perfect until restoring some last remaining apps with titanium backup.
Soon as I did that lag and freezing has come back. Lag is so bad at times system ui force closes.
Edit: I just uninstalled all the apps that I had restored with titanium backup. So far the lag is still there somewhat.
This is really driving me fn nuts. If I wasn't so used to a lot of these custom rom features/tweaks, I would just stick with the stock 4.2.1 rom. That was the only rom that didn't eventually had even after restoring apps with titanium backup.
Anyway IMO there is something funky going on when restoring apps with titanium backup. That's when it all starts lagging again for me anyway. Device starts to get hot AGAIN (even though I have cpu still set to 920mhz max).
I've had this same issue with the following ROMs:
Xenon hd (latest)
Xylon (16-19 builds)
Paranoid android (latest)
So it doesn't seem to be rom specific...
I'm going to start over again for the millionth time (feels like) and wipe everything, and install paranoid android again but this time avoid titanium backup, but even going to install it.
I will report back.
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quick_ said:
I should have updated earlier.
What I did was wipe everything including internal sd, then installed paranoid android rom, installed ak.Dummy kernel 673. Let the play store restore all my apps. Everything was smooth as hell almost 24hrs running so perfectly I was even running max cpu at 920mhz, everything was perfect until restoring some last remaining apps with titanium backup.
Soon as I did that lag and freezing has come back. Lag is so bad at times system ui force closes.
Edit: I just uninstalled all the apps that I had restored with titanium backup. So far the lag is still there somewhat.
This is really driving me fn nuts. If I wasn't so used to a lot of these custom rom features/tweaks, I would just stick with the stock 4.2.1 rom. That was the only rom that didn't eventually had even after restoring apps with titanium backup.
Anyway IMO there is something funky going on when restoring apps with titanium backup. That's when it all starts lagging again for me anyway. Device starts to get hot AGAIN (even though I have cpu still set to 920mhz max).
I've had this same issue with the following ROMs:
Xenon hd (latest)
Xylon (16-19 builds)
Paranoid android (latest)
So it doesn't seem to be rom specific...
I'm going to start over again for the millionth time (feels like) and wipe everything, and install paranoid android again but this time avoid titanium backup, but even going to install it.
I will report back.
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Interesting. I use CWM for the ROM manager and Titanium to restore the apps. Haven't seen the lag problem, except after dirty flashes of XENON. After wiping, the lags went away, but only when using seeder (the free version from these forums).
For a while, I thought it was Facebook causing the lag. Every time I'd check OS Monitor, Facebook was running the CPU's at 40% or more. I backed off the refresh interval to one hour. Its now behaving normally but I'm not convinced that it caused the lags.
I concur: something is causing the lags. Maybe the community can piece together the common elements to isolate it. For now, my phone is running better than new and I'm really happy with the performance.
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Interesting. I use CWM for the ROM manager and Titanium to restore the apps. Haven't seen the lag problem, except after dirty flashes of XENON. After wiping, the lags went away, but only when using seeder (the free version from these forums).
For a while, I thought it was Facebook causing the lag. Every time I'd check OS Monitor, Facebook was running the CPU's at 40% or more. I backed off the refresh interval to one hour. Its now behaving normally but I'm not convinced that it caused the lags.
I concur: something is causing the lags. Maybe the community can piece together the common elements to isolate it. For now, my phone is running better than new and I'm really happy with the performance.
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I will definitely give this "seeder" app a try this is the first I've heard about it. Thanks!
FWIW, I did have facebook installed but I had all refresh/notifications set to manual and/or off, never did see any high CPU usage with the facebook app in all the times I've been monitoring for this issue.
Thanks again,
You can get the entropy seeder app for free in the forum.
Galaxy Nexus (toro) XENON HD Stable-4.0 Franco kernel r364
was1958 said:
You can get the entropy seeder app for free in the forum.
Galaxy Nexus (toro) XENON HD Stable-4.0 Franco kernel r364
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Thanks!
I've yet to try it thought, been trying to isolate the cause of this lag...which I might have found, sort of...
After wiping and installing everything from scratch 3 more times, it seems like if I go over 100 apps (number might be lower) that seems to the the trigger point. Once I hit this unknown number of apps installed its like a light switch gets flipped and everything goes to @#[email protected]#$, and lag starts.
This last time I only installed the most essential apps (which still was total of 60-70 lol) So far no lag at all, everything is running great, no lag when installing or uninstalling apps on the market etc..
Running as smooth as it does after a complete wipe and first install. So that's my thought for now, no idea what the actually issue is or how to fix it, other than staying below a certain number of apps. This seems to fix this issue for me at least for now anyway.
Few other things to note, I didn't let the market restore my apps automatically, I installed them one by one... Also did not install or use titanium backup, which I was suspecting as the cause initially, but it was just after restoring all my apps with TB, I went over this "X" number of apps installed that would cause the lag to begin.
Will update if anything changes.
i have exactly the same behavior...
anyone getting that an app stops working and the restart message? Happening on 2-3 apps here, and not on other phones.
Haven't encountered it, I have 110 apps, Nova and a third party theme. All is stable.
If it is a frequent problem try factory reset. If it is only with a specific app maybe the app is bad optimized with our phone.
its just those specific apps, maybe exclude them from battery saver?
I did test factory reset last week and it worked fine.
its just those specific apps, maybe exclude them from battery saver?
I did test factory reset last week and it worked fine.
Hello everyone
I have a problem with my phone
I'm on stock 10 and I have very bad memory management, really very bad like apps closes in 1s in background, any solution?
So many threads already about this.
IMO not necessarily RAM per-se, just that the apps kept in RAM are not the ones you want.
Reboot. It is the only workaround. I reboot about weekly and that seems fine.
Maybe a tweak might help but I dunno. eg. Lspeed app, RamManager Magisk module.
Restart the device fixed the problem, but after charging the device multiple times the issue comes back again.