Hi All,
I'm back on XDA after sometime away and it's good to be back.
I've bought a Pixel 6 Pro a couple of days ago and have now spent a while setting it up.
The problem is that any USB stick, hard drive or any other other connections do not show any files. I've reformatted the drives I've used and recopied the file again, still nothing works. I've also tried a number of cables just to be sure. Anyway, I also tried connecting the phone directly to my computer which ptly works. what happens is that it fails and crashes half way through. Also the files that have been copied over cannot be used, they are corrupted some how.
If any can please help in anyway, I would appreciate it.
Hello! And welcome back. I know what it's like - I was hardly active for the last five years, and especially the last few of those.
What format did you choose for the flash drive? FAT32 will be the only one to work with the Pixel out of the box, but you can buy exFAT/NTFS for USB by Paragon Software (you can also buy support for some other formats through the same app) in order to be able to use the more efficient ExFAT with the Pixel. I've resisted buying this app for quite a long time but there are hardly any apps I want to spend my Google Opinion Rewards on anymore, so I finally paid for the biggest bundle of all the formats available in the app. It works fine. I prefer to use it through X-Plore File Manager, but you can use it with Paragon's file manager of choice or probably almost any good file manager.
Google would have to pay Microsoft royalties to use their ExFAT (or NTFS), and I figure they're just saying to themselves that there's no way they're going to pay MS for anything related to Android. That's my guess, anyway.
Samsung (and maybe some others) pay for ExFAT support on their phones, but I'd take the Pixel's software over Samsung's any day - we hated our most recent Samsungs.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Hello! And welcome back. I know what it's like - I was hardly active for the last five years, and especially the last few of those.
What format did you choose for the flash drive? FAT32 will be the only one to work with the Pixel out of the box, but you can buy exFAT/NTFS for USB by Paragon Software (you can also buy support for some other formats through the same app) in order to be able to use the more efficient ExFAT with the Pixel. I've resisted buying this app for quite a long time but there are hardly any apps I want to spend my Google Opinion Rewards on anymore, so I finally paid for the biggest bundle of all the formats available in the app. It works fine. I prefer to use it through X-Plore File Manager, but you can use it with Paragon's file manager of choice or probably almost any good file manager.
Google would have to pay Microsoft royalties to use their ExFAT (or NTFS), and I figure they're just saying to themselves that there's no way they're going to pay MS for anything related to Android. That's my guess, anyway.
Samsung (and maybe some others) pay for ExFAT support on their phones, but I'd take the Pixel's software over Samsung's any day - we hated our most recent Samsungs.
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Hi roirraW,
Thank you very much for the infomation. What you mention now makes sense because I didn't think what and how I'd previously transfered files from one device to another would now go wrong. I will find a way using the Fat32 format. At the moment, I am using the exFat format. Thanks again for your help.
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Hi roirraW,
Thank you very much for the infomation. What you mention now makes sense because I didn't think what and how I'd previously transfered files from one device to another would now go wrong. I will find a way using the Fat32 format. At the moment, I am using the exFat format. Thanks again for your help.
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You're welcome! I'm glad it was something easy.
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You're welcome! I'm glad it was something easy.
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Hi roirraW,
The Fat32 didn't work for me. I formatted a 32gb SDcard and used an adapter to connect to my Pixel 6 Pro. Again the file transfer from computer was fine but once again when I plugged it in the files would not show up again. Any other advice, please.
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Hi roirraW,
The Fat32 didn't work for me. I formatted a 32gb SDcard and used an adapter to connect to my Pixel 6 Pro. Again the file transfer from computer was fine but once again when I plugged it in the files would not show up again. Any other advice, please.
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That's...interesting. When you formatted it FAT32, did you use anything other than the default allocation unit size (16 kib for 32 GB)? If using Windows, did you choose the option to "Safely Remove" the SD card after you were done copying files to it? If no to either, try a do-over as appropriate. Use default allocation unit size, or 16 kib if specifying a particular size, and make sure and choose the option to safely remove it after you get done copying the files.
I just tested with a spare 32 GB Micro SD card. I formatted it fresh in Windows as FAT32 with the default allocation unit size, which turned out to be 16 kib. I then loaded it up with files, safely removed it, physically removed the adapter from the computer, connected the adapter to the P6P and in X-plore File Manager I was able to see my files on the MicroSD card just fine.
One thing I did notice because at first I had that Paragon app I had installed, is that the Paragon app popped up and wanted me to tell it to mount the card through the app - without which no file manager would see it. I temporarily uninstalled the app to replicate your situation, and then just as I described, I was able to simply connect the adapter to the phone and I could see the files through the file manager.
If you installed the Paragon app or anything similar, uninstall it if you're not going to pay for it and use it.
Note that it's also best to tell Android to Eject the MicroSD card when you're done with it on the phone as well.
Maybe you have some app installed that's interfering, such as Paragon's app was deliberately interfering for me at first? I can't imagine anything else in particular except to ask what file manager you're using and if you've tried any others? The Pixel's built-in file manager should have no trouble seeing the card too, but if it's giving you trouble, try X-plore File Manager and see if there's any difference.
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That's...interesting. When you formatted it FAT32, did you use anything other than the default allocation unit size (16 kib for 32 GB)? If using Windows, did you choose the option to "Safely Remove" the SD card after you were done copying files to it? If no to either, try a do-over as appropriate. Use default allocation unit size, or 16 kib if specifying a particular size, and make sure and choose the option to safely remove it after you get done copying the files.
I just tested with a spare 32 GB Micro SD card. I formatted it fresh in Windows as FAT32 with the default allocation unit size, which turned out to be 16 kib. I then loaded it up with files, safely removed it, physically removed the adapter from the computer, connected the adapter to the P6P and in X-plore File Manager I was able to see my files on the MicroSD card just fine.
One thing I did notice because at first I had that Paragon app I had installed, is that the Paragon app popped up and wanted me to tell it to mount the card through the app - without which no file manager would see it. I temporarily uninstalled the app to replicate your situation, and then just as I described, I was able to simply connect the adapter to the phone and I could see the files through the file manager.
If you installed the Paragon app or anything similar, uninstall it if you're not going to pay for it and use it.
Note that it's also best to tell Android to Eject the MicroSD card when you're done with it on the phone as well.
Maybe you have some app installed that's interfering, such as Paragon's app was deliberately interfering for me at first? I can't imagine anything else in particular except to ask what file manager you're using and if you've tried any others? The Pixel's built-in file manager should have no trouble seeing the card too, but if it's giving you trouble, try X-plore File Manager and see if there's any difference.
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Thanks again for your response. Basically everything you mentioned above, I did exactly. I didn't understand the additional apps like Paragon so I skipped that part. I use FX Explorer which I have relied on for years. However, I did try at least six other explorers and unfortunately with thes ame outcome. Maybe I changed something in the settings which may have caused this issue for me. I'll try X-plorer and see if that makes a difference. If not, I'll probaly hard reset the phone as a last resort. Thanks for your help again.
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Thanks again for your response. Basically everything you mentioned above, I did exactly. I didn't understand the additional apps like Paragon so I skipped that part. I use FX Explorer which I have relied on for years. However, I did try at least six other explorers and unfortunately with thes ame outcome. Maybe I changed something in the settings which may have caused this issue for me. I'll try X-plorer and see if that makes a difference. If not, I'll probaly hard reset the phone as a last resort. Thanks for your help again.
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Wow. I'm really sorry to hear. I hope you find the solution. Please let us know your progress or if you do factory reset and it solves it.
Question: do you have other MicroSD cards? Any other adapters? Any regular USB flash (thumb) drives? I just remembered my brother very recently had a very similar issue and the problem was the actual two cards were bad. Other cards he used worked normally.
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Wow. I'm really sorry to hear. I hope you find the solution. Please let us know your progress or if you do factory reset and it solves it.
Question: do you have other MicroSD cards? Any other adapters? Any regular USB flash (thumb) drives? I just remembered my brother very recently had a very similar issue and the problem was the actual two cards were bad. Other cards he used worked normally.cards, sticks and SSD's. Exactly the same issue.
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I have tried other memory cards.
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I have trid other memory
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Have you tried rebooting the phone?
roirraW edor ehT said:
Have you tried rebooting the phone?
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I have rebooted the phone multiple times.
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I have rebooted the phone multiple times.
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I'm pretty much out of reasonable ideas. Very strange.
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My wife's external sd card is going, possibly already bad. She has an HTC vivid and use the picture folder for her lockscreen. Its been showing an error but sometimes, less and less, works. I put it in the computer and it says it needs formatted. Not good. I have kids pics I would really like to save. Is there any tools for something like this. She is kinda distraught so any advice would greatly appriciated.
MiniTool Power Data Recovery is free, and works well.
Also, see if your SD card can be replaced on warranty. It won't get your data back, but at least you'll get a new card.
post-mortem said:
MiniTool Power Data Recovery is free, and works well.
Also, see if your SD card can be replaced on warranty. It won't get your data back, but at least you'll get a new card.
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Thanks. I'll give it a try and let you know if it works. I have never had one go bad before so this is new learning. Thankfully I have semi recent backup so it may not be a total loss if I cant access it. Really, in fairness to phone brands, if I had been using HTC Syc or Kies for me, I wouldnt have to worry about it. Damn pain in the ass, useful software!
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MiniTool Power Data Recovery is free, and works well.
Also, see if your SD card can be replaced on warranty. It won't get your data back, but at least you'll get a new card.
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That tool was perfect. Thank you very much. Everything was saved! If any one else happens to need this kind of help on any bad drive, this has a good likelyhood of helping. Be sure to thank Post-Mortem for his knowledge as well.
Glad it worked out for you.
For the future, you can also look into cloud services which will automatically upload pictures you take on your phone, to the cloud. Pogoplug and Ubuntuone do it, and I think Dropbox does as well (I don't use Dropbox).
I know it's early on but I rooted my Samsung galaxy tab 8.4 and I am trying to do a backup of my apps and I cant do a backup to my external sd card. TB is saying it isn't writeable. I have used the back button and such to manually change the directory. I'm familiar with doing that. I can backup to internal storage but obviously I don't want to waste the space when I have a 64gb micro sd card. Thanks for the help.
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I know it's early on but I rooted my Samsung galaxy tab 8.4 and I am trying to do a backup of my apps and I cant do a backup to my external sd card. TB is saying it isn't writeable. I have used the back button and such to manually change the directory. I'm familiar with doing that. I can backup to internal storage but obviously I don't want to waste the space when I have a 64gb micro sd card. Thanks for the help.
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I can confirm the same issue. I've verified that the root directory is set to R/W using "Root Explorer" from the play store. For some reason, I can't get TB to see it as R/W, though.
Saving other items to the external card seems to work just fine. Camera saves there, no issues. Weird.
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I can confirm the same issue. I've verified that the root directory is set to R/W using "Root Explorer" from the play store. For some reason, I can't get TB to see it as R/W, though.
Saving other items to the external card seems to work just fine. Camera saves there, no issues. Weird.
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It will get figured out soon enough. im just happy to be able to do a titanium backup. Lots of work installing stuff
I couldn't even create a Nova backup to the external SD card
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CAR1977 said:
I couldn't even create a Nova backup to the external SD card
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It is a 4.4 permissions issue. I found a possible fix if it works I will post it.
This worked for me. You have to be rooted to do it though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921
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It is a 4.4 permissions issue. I found a possible fix if it works I will post it.
This worked for me. You have to be rooted to do it though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921
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Confirmed, this works. Nice find!
Where did you find root?
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Where did you find root?
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Root was achieved yesterday. CF Auto Root
i am rooted and using es file explorer. when i try to save it a box keeps coming up saying an error occurred cannot save.
got it. have to mount the system.
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i am rooted and using es file explorer. when i try to save it a box keeps coming up saying an error occurred cannot save.
got it. have to mount the system.
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Root explorer works much better for modifying root directory the ES does.
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nrage23 said:
Root explorer works much better for modifying root directory the ES does.
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Yea thats what i figured out. So nice to be able to back up to the sd card and the process literally took a minute. Cool find.
I was able to fix this issue by simply installing Folder Mount. When you first open folder mount will offer to repair this permission issue for you. I said yes and it worked. Folder mount also stated this is specific to Sammy 4.4 roms... Just an FYI. Thought I would share.
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Unfortunately, it's not something that Samsung decided to do, it's something Google started back in Android 3.2 and is now apparently asking OEMs to follow their lead on - or else the OEMs aren't reading the codebase much, which I think is also a problem.
The external storage permssions were spotted and commented on by Chainfire (he who gave us root, hallowed be his name ) in 2012!
https://www.xda-developers.com/andr...-preventing-write-access-to-external-storage/
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/
I'm not 100% on this, but I think that the Samsungs are one of the first sets of devices to get KitKat and to have sdcards. (don't know what the status of the gpad 8.3 is) It will be interesting to see if the Gpad 8.3 does the same thing; I'm pretty sure the Tegra Note did, and then EVGA pulled back on their KitKat update due to bugs, of which this was one (glad they called it a bug, but if they'd looked at the code before implementing the changes...)
This issue goes way beyond the sdcard. Remember when your device could be connected to your computer and turn up as a mass storage device, not a media player or a camera?
The MTP protocol originally implemented by Google was hugely troublesome on that score when it was first introduced. There were absolutely insane failure modes. To get an accurate readout of what was on your device you couldn't disconnect from your computer and reconnect, you couldn't disconnect, reboot the Android device and reconnect - nope, you had to reboot your computer.
I haven't thoroughly tested failure modes but at least the warning on copy from PC to Android works correctly now.
When first implemented by Google, file deletions on in Android were not reported to the computer connected to it if they occurred while connected. So you could move a folder and then try to copy files that didn't exist, and Android wouldn't report the file was not there.
This is an example of silent failure, which is the worst possible failure mode. It gets beaten into the heads (or once did) of programmers that you always produce and report an exception on failure. Not doing so is negligent and might be actionable depending on the context.
I just deleted a file from the Samsung and it's taken more than 30 seconds for the Windows system to get information on what's on the Samsung.
Great - I also couldn't enumerate my local disk drives while I waited, more than 3 minutes (i7-2600k, 8 G ram - not a PC side issue!) I finally disconnected and reconnected the USB cable and was able to get my disks to populate immediately on disconnect, and an accurate poll from the Samsung on reconnect.
I suspect that Google's 'fix' for the not-notifying-on-delete bug is to throw a disk not ready message back at the host system.
So, why does Google not see any of the following as important?
- easy local disk mounting
- viable sdcard use
- well-written MTP implementation
I don't think it's about the cash - sure, Google's selling a few books and a few movies and such, but they're really an advertising broker; the revenue from that isn't why they're worth gazillions.
I think it's actually much more insane than that: Google is all about big data and the supremacy of databases over all else.
Including files themselves - Google wants to drive toward a world where files don't exist, only pointers in databases exist.
http://glasskeys.com/2011/02/28/why-google-uses-mtp-instead-of-usb-file-transfer-on-android-3/
is a perspective on MTP that is essentially diametrically opposed to mine - it's quoting Google as pointing out that there is both simplicity and allegedly a greater degree of security from MTP.
The security comes from the filesystem retaining 'nix style ACLs and helping to maintain sandboxing between applications by not exposing storage as a fat32 filesystem and thereby giving up granular access controls.
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(As an example of silent failure that I think may be the subject of civil litigation: the flaw that broke SSL/TLS validation on most Apple devices - phones, tablets and OS X based computers. If you look at the code, it's blindingly clear what happened.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...pdate-is-present-in-os-x-fix-coming-very-soon
http://arstechnica.com/security/201...aw-in-ios-may-also-affect-fully-patched-macs/
This flaw may well explain the Snowden documents that indicate that the NSA has access to any Apple device at will. When those documents were first being reviewed, there were two responses:
- it isn't true
- Apple is in bed with the NSA.
Ignoring a bug that easy to spot in a functional test for years tends to make me wonder if the second explanation may not hold water.)
Hopefully this can help someone. I couldn't edit my *.xml file even though I am ROOTED. But I found this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
and it worked!! Now Titanium Backup is able to write successfully to my sdcard.
The app works great. I would recommend it for anyone on 4.4
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PRESOLVED: My Tab is possessed by the devil!
When I tried to write a file to my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4's external SD card with Astro and it wouldn't work I was flustered. A little research turned up the crippled SD support in KitKat and how to fix things with the simple platform.xml hack. I did that, and all was right with the world again.
Then I got another 8.4, and actually cloned the first one to the second one with a nandroid backup. I also moved my SD card from the first to the second. Eventually I sold the first one and am just left with the second one. But somewhere along the way I lost the ability to write to the SD card, and I can't get it back!
The hacked platform.xml file was of course cloned along with everything else, but it just doesn't work. What's just as bad, or worse, is that apps which should write to external SD even without the hack (and which did, prior to this issue developing), such as Samsung's My Files, and Root Explorer, also are no longer able to!!!!
So to try and fix things, I flashed this ROM to my Tab: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698460 But I still can't write to external SD, even with My Files!
Here's another problem, which may or may not be related: I also can't write to the external SD with the Tab connected to my computer. With a small file, the progress bar immediately jumps to 100% but then freezes and after a long time the copy times out with the message, "The device has either stopped responding or has been disconnected". With a large file the progress bar plods along, first at a normal speed but gradually getting slower and slower, until at some point it stops moving and the copy times out.
Please, I beg of you, help me exorcise my demon Tab!
SOLUTION: Before actually posting this plea for help, I re-formatted my SD card (in the Tab) and all functionality is restored. I post this at risk of making myself look like an idiot, in hopes that it might save someone else's hair.
Good on you for posting the problem and the solution. I doubt you'll be the only person to experience this.
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... I post this at risk of making myself look like an idiot, in hopes that it might save someone else's hair....
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From that comment it seems we need more bald users as no risk testers.
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droidmark said:
When I tried to write a file to my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4's external SD card with Astro and it wouldn't work I was flustered. A little research turned up the crippled SD support in KitKat and how to fix things with the simple platform.xml hack. I did that, and all was right with the world again.
Then I got another 8.4, and actually cloned the first one to the second one with a nandroid backup. I also moved my SD card from the first to the second. Eventually I sold the first one and am just left with the second one. But somewhere along the way I lost the ability to write to the SD card, and I can't get it back!
The hacked platform.xml file was of course cloned along with everything else, but it just doesn't work. What's just as bad, or worse, is that apps which should write to external SD even without the hack (and which did, prior to this issue developing), such as Samsung's My Files, and Root Explorer, also are no longer able to!!!!
So to try and fix things, I flashed this ROM to my Tab: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698460 But I still can't write to external SD, even with My Files!
Here's another problem, which may or may not be related: I also can't write to the external SD with the Tab connected to my computer. With a small file, the progress bar immediately jumps to 100% but then freezes and after a long time the copy times out with the message, "The device has either stopped responding or has been disconnected". With a large file the progress bar plods along, first at a normal speed but gradually getting slower and slower, until at some point it stops moving and the copy times out.
Please, I beg of you, help me exorcise my demon Tab!
SOLUTION: Before actually posting this plea for help, I re-formatted my SD card (in the Tab) and all functionality is restored. I post this at risk of making myself look like an idiot, in hopes that it might save someone else's hair.
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Just wanted to add a postscript for anyone who might have a similar issue. I thought this problem was solved, as described above. Then a few days later when I booted up my tab, the SD card was shown as blank/unformatted. At that point I did some more digging and determined that it was actually a counterfeit 32GB card, based on an 8GB card. Got a refund, threw it in the trash and ordered a new 64GB card. Caveat emptor!
In August, I bought a 128GB PNY microSD card. It lasted almost two months, and then the tablet started acting funny. It would randomly unmount the card, it couldn't find my music files, and apps I had moved to the card would just disappear. I assumed the card was broken, so I eventually replaced it with a 128GB Samsung card. It's worked fine until the other day, when it started exhibiting the exact same behavior. I haven't been able to fix it.
I've tried formatting them both, but nothing seems to work. Windows can see the cards and the contents, but it's not able to format either card - it reads them both as write-protected, even though they're not. The only thing I can think that might cause it besides my tablet is Link2SD. I use this to move the large app data to the card since I only have 16GB of regular space. Could this be causing it? I'm at a loss, and I can't keep buying new cards. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I regularly read this forum and this is the first time I've heard of an issue as described. I bought a a cheaper 64Gb mSD card and used it with my Tab S day one. I've never had an issue. Could be you just have been unlucky? Were your cards from recognized brands? I suspect that the larger GB cards have lower yields so you need to buy a better quality card.
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I regularly read this forum and this is the first time I've heard of an issue as described. I bought a a cheaper 64Gb mSD card and used it with my Tab S day one. I've never had an issue. Could be you just have been unlucky? Were your cards from recognized brands? I suspect that the larger GB cards have lower yields so you need to buy a better quality card.
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I definitely won't rule out being unlucky, it's definitely in my blood. I just find it odd the exact same thing would happen to two cards, months apart and with different brands and purchasing locations. PNY isn't super awesome, but they're not garbage, and Samsung is fairly prominent.
Samsung phones and tablets are occasionally said to be sd card killers. The GS3 definitely was, killed like 3 cards with the same result as you got.
Sometimes I feel it also affects certain sizes of card. The GS3 ate 16gb cards, but not 32gb cards. So it's quite possible that a different size card may have a longer life.
Not saying this has any base in research, just my experience.
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Samsung phones and tablets are occasionally said to be sd card killers. The GS3 definitely was, killed like 3 cards with the same result as you got.
Sometimes I feel it also affects certain sizes of card. The GS3 ate 16gb cards, but not 32gb cards. So it's quite possible that a different size card may have a longer life.
Not saying this has any base in research, just my experience.
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I've read this on other forums as well, specifically the GS3 part. I wish there was a way to be sure. What happened to destroy the cards?
I am using a Samsung 64GB and Link2SD. Haven't encountered any issue so far. But on a related topic, I managed to destroy a 1 year old Sandisk USB drive yesterday while trying to format it as NTFS. Now Windows won't recognise it al all. It could just be that the flash memory had defects to begin with.
Does Windows make the bell sound when you insert your microsd, if it does you should be able to recover it, if it does not and you have checked the reader is working the microsd might be dead, if you have an sdhc adapter see if a camera or any other device will recognize the card, if it does format it in that device then see if windows will see it, I had an 16GB microsd a few years ago completely die when i froze while i was copying music to my phone, nothing would recognize the card after that it was totally dead, and i got a refund.
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snapper.fishes said:
I am using a Samsung 64GB and Link2SD. Haven't encountered any issue so far. But on a related topic, I managed to destroy a 1 year old Sandisk USB drive yesterday while trying to format it as NTFS. Now Windows won't recognise it al all. It could just be that the flash memory had defects to begin with.
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Does Windows make the bell sound when you insert your microsd, if it does you should be able to recover it, if it does not and you have checked the reader is working the microsd might be dead, if you have an sdhc adapter see if a camera or any other device will recognize the card, if it does format it in that device then see if windows will see it, I had an 16GB microsd a few years ago completely die when i froze while i was copying music to my phone, nothing would recognize the card after that it was totally dead, and i got a refund.
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Windows does recognize the card, and I can see the contents of it and copy all content OFF the card. However, trying to format it just tells me the disk is write protected. I've done everything in my power to try to unlock the disk, including third-party programs and commands in the DOS prompt, but it's still write-protected. So bizarre!
I had the write protect problem on an card myself a few years ago, I downloaded an app that let me remove the protection and the card worked fine after that.
Does the write protection stop a camera from formatting the card, or only windows, as i said it`s been years since i had my problem.
Have you tried a partition manger app, I have used the one below for years, but i dont know if it will be blocked by the write protection as well.
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
John.
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Windows does recognize the card, and I can see the contents of it and copy all content OFF the card. However, trying to format it just tells me the disk is write protected. I've done everything in my power to try to unlock the disk, including third-party programs and commands in the DOS prompt, but it's still write-protected. So bizarre!
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I had the write protect problem on an card myself a few years ago, I downloaded an app that let me remove the protection and the card worked fine after that.
Does the write protection stop a camera from formatting the card, or only windows, as i said it`s been years since i had my problem.
Have you tried a partition manger app, I have used the one below for years, but i dont know if it will be blocked by the write protection as well.
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
John.
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I actually don't own a camera, the only things I have that take SD cards are computers and Android tablets/phones. I haven't tried that particular partition manager (Chrome won't let me download it - it says it's unsafe?), but the Windows manager and an HP one someone recommended both say "Failed to format disk."
I have uploaded the app i used, It years old so i most likely does not work but you can give it a try.
John.
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I actually don't own a camera, the only things I have that take SD cards are computers and Android tablets/phones. I haven't tried that particular partition manager (Chrome won't let me download it - it says it's unsafe?), but the Windows manager and an HP one someone recommended both say "Failed to format disk."
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I actually don't own a camera, the only things I have that take SD cards are computers and Android tablets/phones. I haven't tried that particular partition manager (Chrome won't let me download it - it says it's unsafe?), but the Windows manager and an HP one someone recommended both say "Failed to format disk."
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I would download partition wizard with another browser or force chrome to download it. Its a perfectly legitimate app which I've used many a time.
You need a low level format and partitioning software like that. Windows is useless on its own.
Delete the sd card partition, recreate and reformat.
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I would download partition wizard with another browser or force chrome to download it. Its a perfectly legitimate app which I've used many a time.
You need a low level format and partitioning software like that. Windows is useless on its own.
Delete the sd card partition, recreate and reformat.
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I downloaded it through Edge, and everything worked fine. It even seemed like it was going to work, until I hit "apply". Then it sat and thought for a while, and told me there was an error with the format of the disk. Instead of trying to recreate 2 partitions, I tried to just see if it would format at all, and when I applied that change, it said it completed successfully, but the disk was still in it's former state - full of my files, fully readable, and definitely not formatted. I feel like this stupid thing is haunted.
So for this problem, can anyone give me an opinion on whether it's hardware or software based? Such as, do you believe this is happening because it's a Samsung tablet, or with a bug on their current Android version? I'm hesitant to keep putting cards in it, but I want to use my tablet!
Have you flashed or rooted your tablet? , are you on kitkat or lollipop?
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Have you flashed or rooted your tablet? , are you on kitkat or lollipop?
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It was rooted, but it was on stock 5.0.2. I used root to run Link2SD.
Link2SD only moves apps not music, so why did your music disappear, have you used any cleaning apps as they can delete files that you want to keep.
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It was rooted, but it was on stock 5.0.2. I used root to run Link2SD.
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Link2SD only moves apps not music, so why did your music disappear, have you used any cleaning apps as they can delete files that you want to keep.
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Well I had Link2SD moving all kinds of crap. It was linking games, books, comics, magazines...lots of stuff. My music didn't disappear - in fact, nothing did. It's all still there, only the tablet can't see it. My computer can see it, I can copy and open the files, but I can't write anything new to the card, and I can't format it.
It sounds like your tablet is loosing the location of the files on your microsd, I would say Link2SD is at fault, I would give the developer a email with the problem your are having and see what they say.
EDIT: I just read the reviews of LINK2SD and some people are reporting files are disappearing.
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Well I had Link2SD moving all kinds of crap. It was linking games, books, comics, magazines...lots of stuff. My music didn't disappear - in fact, nothing did. It's all still there, only the tablet can't see it. My computer can see it, I can copy and open the files, but I can't write anything new to the card, and I can't format it.
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Well I had Link2SD moving all kinds of crap. It was linking games, books, comics, magazines...lots of stuff. My music didn't disappear - in fact, nothing did. It's all still there, only the tablet can't see it. My computer can see it, I can copy and open the files, but I can't write anything new to the card, and I can't format it.
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@greycobalt: I recently had Link2SD card stop mounting the 2nd partition (formatted as ext2, that is used for Link2SD).
I'm using a SanDisk 64 GB micro SD.
1) Did you have this same problem? Were you able to recover your app files when you put the SD card into your computer?
2) Oddly enough, I can see the files on the 1st partition of the card, which is formatted to FAT32 and I can see everything on that in file explorer. You said that these even disappear?
3) What file format did you have for your microSD for Link2SD to be able to link apps to it?
:crying: like the title says. Literally every other file on my phone is intact... but all my pictures were deleted only from my SD Card, man this has me stressed. I take a ton of photos and my last backup was 2 weeks ago
Can someone help me investigate this? TBH I'm not sure what happened. the last time i saw my pictures were several hours ago. I'm running android 7.0 if that matters on leedroid. I installed simple gallery app, deleted about 40 pics and that was that. I could still see the rest of my pics. fast forward a few hours later, I go looking for a folder in my DCIM folder with pics from my nexus 6p and non of my micro sd cards pictures are there. they are all done.
so far i've mounted my the 10 as mass storage via TWRP and ran recuva on the card searching for pictures with deep scan mode. makes this mystery more interesting is it found only 3 files! if you know anything about PCs if something is deleted it should still be present right? b/c it's not really deleted yet.
Sorry mate that I don't have a solution that you haven't tried. I know it doesn't help now, but I use the Mega app with a free 50GB account to back up my pictures and videos automatically when I'm on WiFi.
Good luck, I hope you find a way.
There are Android apps for recovery too - I doubt if they would help better than Recuva and I don't know any in particular to suggest. Also I don't know if you'd have better luck on the PC with the card mounted directly instead of via MTP but it's definitely worth a try.
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Sorry mate that I don't have a solution that you haven't tried. I know it doesn't help now, but I use the Mega app with a free 50GB account to back up my pictures and videos automatically when I'm on WiFi.
Good luck, I hope you find a way.
There are Android apps for recovery too - I doubt if they would help better than Recuva and I don't know any in particular to suggest. Also I don't know if you'd have better luck on the PC with the card mounted directly instead of via MTP but it's definitely worth a try.
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Just tried card mounted with recuva and deep scan. also tried photorec.
what's strange is recuva found a ton of deleted files but it cannot find my pictures from DCIM folder. not even in poor or unrecoverable state..... something is fishy about that.
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Just tried card mounted with recuva and deep scan. also tried photorec.
what's strange is recuva found a ton of deleted files but it cannot find my pictures from DCIM folder. not even in poor or unrecoverable state..... something is fishy about that.
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I wouldn't read too much into that. To be fair, be vigilant as well but it doesn't mean anything suspicious is going on. Although I haven't had this happen on my HTC 10 yet, on my previous four Android phones my MicroSD cards would sometimes become corrupted or lose files even when I'm not writing anything to them.
One time on the LG G3 (and this is really bizarre) just flashing a TOT (LG provided stock ROM file on the PC) wiped my MicroSD completely, and I had flashed TOTs hundreds of times on both my LG phone and tablet without that happening. Just pointing out that without further evidence, the loss of the files themselves doesn't necessarily mean anything other than the general relative unreliability of MicroSD cards compared to internal storage technology.
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I wouldn't read too much into that. To be fair, be vigilant as well but it doesn't mean anything suspicious is going on. Although I haven't had this happen on my HTC 10 yet, on my previous four Android phones my MicroSD cards would sometimes become corrupted or lose files even when I'm not writing anything to them.
One time on the LG G3 (and this is really bizarre) just flashing a TOT (LG provided stock ROM file on the PC) wiped my MicroSD completely, and I had flashed TOTs hundreds of times on both my LG phone and tablet without that happening. Just pointing out that without further evidence, the loss of the files themselves doesn't necessarily mean anything other than the general relative unreliability of MicroSD cards compared to internal storage technology.
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I see what you mean but just trying to figure out the point of failure. Can't have this happen so still thinking to see what went wrong... unless it was SD failure of some sort.
Have an SD card, formatted it for the phone. The phone doesnt let me change storage location for pictures taken. Is there an easy way to do this that I overlooked?
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Have an SD card, formatted it for the phone. The phone doesnt let me change storage location for pictures taken. Is there an easy way to do this that I overlooked?
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I would imagine it's in one of three places:
1) In the camera app settings
2) Gallery settings
3) Haven't opened my Razer Phone yet,but,I'd also look in the general phone settings,guessing there's a storage section,perhaps it's there.
Once you do find it,if it's something you frequently access/change,you should be able to create a shortcut to it on your home screen,since Nova Launcher is the default U/I for the home screen(s)/app drawer.
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I would imagine it's in one of three places:
1) In the camera app settings
2) Gallery settings
3) Haven't opened my Razer Phone yet,but,I'd also look in the general phone settings,guessing there's a storage section,perhaps it's there.
Once you do find it,if it's something you frequently access/change,you should be able to create a shortcut to it on your home screen,since Nova Launcher is the default U/I for the home screen(s)/app drawer.
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1. It's not there.
2. The only gallery pre-installed is google photos, and it's not there either.
3. Not there.
Ive been on chat support with Razer all day. They need to "examine" this in their lab, as this is a huge concern.
They said within a day or 2 someone will be getting back to me.
Do you currently have an SD Card installed?
I don't on the phone I'm using ATM (Note FE) & there's nothing there for storage settings, until an SD Card is installed.
If you have an SD Card installed, then it indeed sounds like someone dropped the ball in the software department....
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Yeah very strange...I doubt I'll hear anything from them. I'm surprised an issue this severe isn't being reported by other people.
I've done everything there is to do. factory resetting the phone, formatting the cards, in and outside of the phone. using other camera apps, other galleries...it's like the camera app and the sd slot aren't linked somehow. I switch phones often, and take alot of pictures, and never have any problem transferring the card between phones.
I guess lesson learned with using a debut device. Hopefully theres some kind of software fix soon. otherwise this thing is going back.
I have no option in the default camera app either to change storage location.. I also have a sd card inserted and formatted correctly as I can access it in other apps just fine.. There literally just isn't any option to choose location!
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Yeah very strange...I doubt I'll hear anything from them. I'm surprised an issue this severe isn't being reported by other people.
I've done everything there is to do. factory resetting the phone, formatting the cards, in and outside of the phone. using other camera apps, other galleries...it's like the camera app and the sd slot aren't linked somehow. I switch phones often, and take alot of pictures, and never have any problem transferring the card between phones.
I guess lesson learned with using a debut device. Hopefully theres some kind of software fix soon. otherwise this thing is going back.
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I have no option in the default camera app either to change storage location.. I also have a sd card inserted and formatted correctly as I can access it in other apps just fine.. There literally just isn't any option to choose location!
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Perhaps in the meantime,you can move the photos in the gallery app using a file exploer,or,the SanDisk app.
Not a long-term permanent solution by any means....
........Since this is near-stock Android experience,almost sounds like the photo storage software was ripped from the Pixel twins,as neither have an SD Card slot....
On the topic of SD Cards I have a few questions as regarding this. I have been using iOS since the 3GS and new to Android and this would be my 1st Android device.
I am not an app heavy user and have all the apps I use already on the internal storage and running at 17.67GB out of the 58.90GB.
1) Would an SD card be worth buying 256GB Class 10 U1 card to be used to just storage Photos and Videos?
(only reason on size is because I just want the biggest storage on one card rather than on lots of smaller ones.)
2) With unlimited data on my phone is it worth buying an SD Card at all if Google Photos is a thing?
(I dont like the idea of my media just being in the cloud which why im unsure what to do here)
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On the topic of SD Cards I have a few questions as regarding this. I have been using iOS since the 3GS and new to Android and this would be my 1st Android device.
I am not an app heavy user and have all the apps I use already on the internal storage and running at 17.67GB out of the 58.90GB.
1) Would an SD card be worth buying 256GB Class 10 U1 card to be used to just storage Photos and Videos?
(only reason on size is because I just want the biggest storage on one card rather than on lots of smaller ones.)
2) With unlimited data on my phone is it worth buying an SD Card at all if Google Photos is a thing?
(I dont like the idea of my media just being in the cloud which why im unsure what to do here)
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An SD Card is more of a nice option in your scenario, but,it's one I'd recommend to have.
However, I'd recommend getting the fastest card you can buy with the same money you're willing to spend on the card you mentioned.
Get a U3 rated card, even if that means a lesser amount of extra storage, quality over quantity......
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An SD Card is more of a nice option in your scenario, but,it's one I'd recommend to have.
However, I'd recommend getting the fastest card you can buy with the same money you're willing to spend on the card you mentioned.
Get a U3 rated card, even if that means a lesser amount of extra storage, quality over quantity......
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Thanks for getting back to me so quickly I have concerns about the type of card thats best for the phone as Razer's spec site only says it can handle up to Class 10 and when I asked about U1-U3 they kinda didnt mention it at all.
Would a U1 or U3 work in a class 10 supported device and not give the extra read/write performance or will it not work at all?
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Thanks for getting back to me so quickly I have concerns about the type of card thats best for the phone as Razer's spec site only says it can handle up to Class 10 and when I asked about U1-U3 they kinda didnt mention it at all.
Would a U1 or U3 work in a class 10 supported device and not give the extra read/write performance or will it not work at all?
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I'd be lying if I said I knew with 100% certainty, but, I'll be putting a Samsung 256 GB SD Card (U3) in my Razer later today & I'll follow up with what I find then/post here in this thread.
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I'd be lying if I said I knew with 100% certainty, but, I'll be putting a Samsung 256 GB SD Card (U3) in my Razer later today & I'll follow up with what I find then/post here in this thread.
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Thanks for testing this for me if i dont get any benefit out of the U1-U3 in performance i may just grab a Class 10 as I will want to format it for the device as I don't plan on moving SD cards between devices as I only have two devices using this media and the other is in my Nintendo Switch so again formatted for that device.
With Black Friday coming up Id like to get it sorted soon so i know what to buy.
Back on topic please
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My apologies,back on topic ...... :good:
BTW,I have the unlocked version/carrier-free.
Finally opened mine up,after initial set-up,had a 250MB update out-of-the-box,still nada regarding camera/photo/video storage options.
I found an app in the Google Play Store,Open Camera,that has the option:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=en
I tried to enter an alternate file (from my external SD Card) & it wouldn't take.
Looked in developer options,as I'm sure you have already,nothing specific for media/photos,just the adoptable storage option for (non-system) apps.
Just took a look @ Razer Insider/Forums,nothing set up for Razer Phone just yet.
https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?forums/mobile/
Priorities for users here run the gamut,but,I'd safely guess most here would put fixing this near the top of Razer's priorities for bug fixes/updates.
@iStasis Sent you a PM..............
Got the phone last Saturday. This is the only issue I really have so far.
Submitted a support email. Hopefully this gets resolved soon. I suggest everyone submit a ticket for this and hopefully it will get resolved faster.
Having to same issue here. There is a camera app up date coming according to razer so maybe there will be a fix for it in the update
I guys spoke to razer about this and this is what they said
If the SD card is set to Internal storage, you have the option to migrate all the data. Then the default location of the data will be the SD card including the camera.
Have not tried it yet but will tomorrow
Slightly related, I can't seem to be able to transfer any files to my MicroSD card I've been using on my S8 and have it shown in the phone.... It won't show anything I transfer to it other than a System Volume Information folder that shows up for whatever reason.
Just copy/move your photos to your SD card manually.
Go to Settings>>Storage>>Internal shared storage>>Images.
Select the image you want to move/copy by long pressing the image file icon, tap the three dot menu on the top right, your SD card should show up from the left menu tree. From there, select the directory you want to move to on the SD card and voila.
Hope that helps.
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Just copy/move your photos to your SD card manually.
Go to Settings>>Storage>>Internal shared storage>>Images.
Select the image you want to move/copy by long pressing the image file icon, tap the three dot menu on the top right, your SD card should show up from the left menu tree. From there, select the directory you want to move to on the SD card and voila.
Hope that helps.
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THX,but,that isn't what were looking for,most here know how to move pix from one spot to another.
We are wanting the option to choose the storage location , before the picture/video is taken,not just moving it afterwards.
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