External SD Card not writeable in TB on 8.4? - Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2, 10.1, 8.4 Q&A, Help & Trouble

I know it's early on but I rooted my Samsung galaxy tab 8.4 and I am trying to do a backup of my apps and I cant do a backup to my external sd card. TB is saying it isn't writeable. I have used the back button and such to manually change the directory. I'm familiar with doing that. I can backup to internal storage but obviously I don't want to waste the space when I have a 64gb micro sd card. Thanks for the help.

bckrupps said:
I know it's early on but I rooted my Samsung galaxy tab 8.4 and I am trying to do a backup of my apps and I cant do a backup to my external sd card. TB is saying it isn't writeable. I have used the back button and such to manually change the directory. I'm familiar with doing that. I can backup to internal storage but obviously I don't want to waste the space when I have a 64gb micro sd card. Thanks for the help.
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I can confirm the same issue. I've verified that the root directory is set to R/W using "Root Explorer" from the play store. For some reason, I can't get TB to see it as R/W, though.
Saving other items to the external card seems to work just fine. Camera saves there, no issues. Weird.

leatherneck6017 said:
I can confirm the same issue. I've verified that the root directory is set to R/W using "Root Explorer" from the play store. For some reason, I can't get TB to see it as R/W, though.
Saving other items to the external card seems to work just fine. Camera saves there, no issues. Weird.
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It will get figured out soon enough. im just happy to be able to do a titanium backup. Lots of work installing stuff

I couldn't even create a Nova backup to the external SD card
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CAR1977 said:
I couldn't even create a Nova backup to the external SD card
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It is a 4.4 permissions issue. I found a possible fix if it works I will post it.
This worked for me. You have to be rooted to do it though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921

nrage23 said:
It is a 4.4 permissions issue. I found a possible fix if it works I will post it.
This worked for me. You have to be rooted to do it though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617921
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Confirmed, this works. Nice find!

Where did you find root?
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uberboyd said:
Where did you find root?
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Root was achieved yesterday. CF Auto Root

i am rooted and using es file explorer. when i try to save it a box keeps coming up saying an error occurred cannot save.
got it. have to mount the system.

bckrupps said:
i am rooted and using es file explorer. when i try to save it a box keeps coming up saying an error occurred cannot save.
got it. have to mount the system.
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Root explorer works much better for modifying root directory the ES does.
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Root explorer works much better for modifying root directory the ES does.
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Yea thats what i figured out. So nice to be able to back up to the sd card and the process literally took a minute. Cool find.

I was able to fix this issue by simply installing Folder Mount. When you first open folder mount will offer to repair this permission issue for you. I said yes and it worked. Folder mount also stated this is specific to Sammy 4.4 roms... Just an FYI. Thought I would share.
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Unfortunately, it's not something that Samsung decided to do, it's something Google started back in Android 3.2 and is now apparently asking OEMs to follow their lead on - or else the OEMs aren't reading the codebase much, which I think is also a problem.
The external storage permssions were spotted and commented on by Chainfire (he who gave us root, hallowed be his name ) in 2012!
https://www.xda-developers.com/andr...-preventing-write-access-to-external-storage/
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/
I'm not 100% on this, but I think that the Samsungs are one of the first sets of devices to get KitKat and to have sdcards. (don't know what the status of the gpad 8.3 is) It will be interesting to see if the Gpad 8.3 does the same thing; I'm pretty sure the Tegra Note did, and then EVGA pulled back on their KitKat update due to bugs, of which this was one (glad they called it a bug, but if they'd looked at the code before implementing the changes...)
This issue goes way beyond the sdcard. Remember when your device could be connected to your computer and turn up as a mass storage device, not a media player or a camera?
The MTP protocol originally implemented by Google was hugely troublesome on that score when it was first introduced. There were absolutely insane failure modes. To get an accurate readout of what was on your device you couldn't disconnect from your computer and reconnect, you couldn't disconnect, reboot the Android device and reconnect - nope, you had to reboot your computer.
I haven't thoroughly tested failure modes but at least the warning on copy from PC to Android works correctly now.
When first implemented by Google, file deletions on in Android were not reported to the computer connected to it if they occurred while connected. So you could move a folder and then try to copy files that didn't exist, and Android wouldn't report the file was not there.
This is an example of silent failure, which is the worst possible failure mode. It gets beaten into the heads (or once did) of programmers that you always produce and report an exception on failure. Not doing so is negligent and might be actionable depending on the context.
I just deleted a file from the Samsung and it's taken more than 30 seconds for the Windows system to get information on what's on the Samsung.
Great - I also couldn't enumerate my local disk drives while I waited, more than 3 minutes (i7-2600k, 8 G ram - not a PC side issue!) I finally disconnected and reconnected the USB cable and was able to get my disks to populate immediately on disconnect, and an accurate poll from the Samsung on reconnect.
I suspect that Google's 'fix' for the not-notifying-on-delete bug is to throw a disk not ready message back at the host system.
So, why does Google not see any of the following as important?
- easy local disk mounting
- viable sdcard use
- well-written MTP implementation
I don't think it's about the cash - sure, Google's selling a few books and a few movies and such, but they're really an advertising broker; the revenue from that isn't why they're worth gazillions.
I think it's actually much more insane than that: Google is all about big data and the supremacy of databases over all else.
Including files themselves - Google wants to drive toward a world where files don't exist, only pointers in databases exist.
http://glasskeys.com/2011/02/28/why-google-uses-mtp-instead-of-usb-file-transfer-on-android-3/
is a perspective on MTP that is essentially diametrically opposed to mine - it's quoting Google as pointing out that there is both simplicity and allegedly a greater degree of security from MTP.
The security comes from the filesystem retaining 'nix style ACLs and helping to maintain sandboxing between applications by not exposing storage as a fat32 filesystem and thereby giving up granular access controls.
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(As an example of silent failure that I think may be the subject of civil litigation: the flaw that broke SSL/TLS validation on most Apple devices - phones, tablets and OS X based computers. If you look at the code, it's blindingly clear what happened.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...pdate-is-present-in-os-x-fix-coming-very-soon
http://arstechnica.com/security/201...aw-in-ios-may-also-affect-fully-patched-macs/
This flaw may well explain the Snowden documents that indicate that the NSA has access to any Apple device at will. When those documents were first being reviewed, there were two responses:
- it isn't true
- Apple is in bed with the NSA.
Ignoring a bug that easy to spot in a functional test for years tends to make me wonder if the second explanation may not hold water.)

Hopefully this can help someone. I couldn't edit my *.xml file even though I am ROOTED. But I found this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
and it worked!! Now Titanium Backup is able to write successfully to my sdcard.

The app works great. I would recommend it for anyone on 4.4
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PRESOLVED: My Tab is possessed by the devil!
When I tried to write a file to my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4's external SD card with Astro and it wouldn't work I was flustered. A little research turned up the crippled SD support in KitKat and how to fix things with the simple platform.xml hack. I did that, and all was right with the world again.
Then I got another 8.4, and actually cloned the first one to the second one with a nandroid backup. I also moved my SD card from the first to the second. Eventually I sold the first one and am just left with the second one. But somewhere along the way I lost the ability to write to the SD card, and I can't get it back!
The hacked platform.xml file was of course cloned along with everything else, but it just doesn't work. What's just as bad, or worse, is that apps which should write to external SD even without the hack (and which did, prior to this issue developing), such as Samsung's My Files, and Root Explorer, also are no longer able to!!!!
So to try and fix things, I flashed this ROM to my Tab: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698460 But I still can't write to external SD, even with My Files!
Here's another problem, which may or may not be related: I also can't write to the external SD with the Tab connected to my computer. With a small file, the progress bar immediately jumps to 100% but then freezes and after a long time the copy times out with the message, "The device has either stopped responding or has been disconnected". With a large file the progress bar plods along, first at a normal speed but gradually getting slower and slower, until at some point it stops moving and the copy times out.
Please, I beg of you, help me exorcise my demon Tab!
SOLUTION: Before actually posting this plea for help, I re-formatted my SD card (in the Tab) and all functionality is restored. I post this at risk of making myself look like an idiot, in hopes that it might save someone else's hair.

Good on you for posting the problem and the solution. I doubt you'll be the only person to experience this.
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droidmark said:
... I post this at risk of making myself look like an idiot, in hopes that it might save someone else's hair....
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From that comment it seems we need more bald users as no risk testers.
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droidmark said:
When I tried to write a file to my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4's external SD card with Astro and it wouldn't work I was flustered. A little research turned up the crippled SD support in KitKat and how to fix things with the simple platform.xml hack. I did that, and all was right with the world again.
Then I got another 8.4, and actually cloned the first one to the second one with a nandroid backup. I also moved my SD card from the first to the second. Eventually I sold the first one and am just left with the second one. But somewhere along the way I lost the ability to write to the SD card, and I can't get it back!
The hacked platform.xml file was of course cloned along with everything else, but it just doesn't work. What's just as bad, or worse, is that apps which should write to external SD even without the hack (and which did, prior to this issue developing), such as Samsung's My Files, and Root Explorer, also are no longer able to!!!!
So to try and fix things, I flashed this ROM to my Tab: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698460 But I still can't write to external SD, even with My Files!
Here's another problem, which may or may not be related: I also can't write to the external SD with the Tab connected to my computer. With a small file, the progress bar immediately jumps to 100% but then freezes and after a long time the copy times out with the message, "The device has either stopped responding or has been disconnected". With a large file the progress bar plods along, first at a normal speed but gradually getting slower and slower, until at some point it stops moving and the copy times out.
Please, I beg of you, help me exorcise my demon Tab!
SOLUTION: Before actually posting this plea for help, I re-formatted my SD card (in the Tab) and all functionality is restored. I post this at risk of making myself look like an idiot, in hopes that it might save someone else's hair.
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Just wanted to add a postscript for anyone who might have a similar issue. I thought this problem was solved, as described above. Then a few days later when I booted up my tab, the SD card was shown as blank/unformatted. At that point I did some more digging and determined that it was actually a counterfeit 32GB card, based on an 8GB card. Got a refund, threw it in the trash and ordered a new 64GB card. Caveat emptor!

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[Q]Help: unlocking deleted pictures

Like an idiot I did not remember that with the stupid internal SD card, the unlocking would delete pictures/videos/etc. is there a way to get it back? I am unlocked but not rooted. This is a friends phone and I'd appreciate any help getting his pictures back.
Why can't this freaking thing have an external SD card?
You can't, once it's wiped its wiped
If he had google+ his pictures may be backed up to his account
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loveubuntu said:
Like an idiot I did not remember that with the stupid internal SD card, the unlocking would delete pictures/videos/etc. is there a way to get it back? I am unlocked but not rooted. This is a friends phone and I'd appreciate any help getting his pictures back.
Why can't this freaking thing have an external SD card?
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No idea if something like this would work, but just throwing it out there: http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
loveubuntu said:
Like an idiot I did not remember that with the stupid internal SD card, the unlocking would delete pictures/videos/etc. is there a way to get it back? I am unlocked but not rooted. This is a friends phone and I'd appreciate any help getting his pictures back.
Why can't this freaking thing have an external SD card?
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Hehe dude go to www.torrentz.com once there Look for magic photo recovery download the torrent with utorrent or bittorrent once downloaded install to your pc and plug the phone... Start the photo recovery and Select the drive you need to run the recovery and choose the phone drive next or at the same time Select a folder where the software will put the recovered files and thats it magic
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msedek said:
Hehe dude go to www.torrentz.com once there Look for magic photo recovery download the torrent with utorrent or bittorrent once downloaded install to your pc and plug the phone... Start the photo recovery and Select the drive you need to run the recovery and choose the phone drive next or at the same time Select a folder where the software will put the recovered files and thats it magic
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The problem is that the GN does not support USB mass storage mode, so it will not see a drive...
efrant said:
The problem is that the GN does not support USB mass storage mode, so it will not see a drive...
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Oh i see... Well worth the try i guess?
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Thanks people. After a few hours of digging around, it appears that it can't be done. Oh well, dropbox sync from now on. I will never ever buy a phone that has a virtual sd card, Nexus device or not. Starting to like the new HTC devices.
loveubuntu said:
Thanks people. After a few hours of digging around, it appears that it can't be done. Oh well, dropbox sync from now on. I will never ever buy a phone that has a virtual sd card, Nexus device or not. Starting to like the new HTC devices.
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I hope that decision isn't based on this one experience with the pics being deleted.. Because you know it would have been extremely easy to just transfer them to your computer via USB before unlocking and then transfer them back after.
It is possible I have recovered wiped files off of an sd card before although not the nexus's internal storage. the software recuva is free and should work. The key is that you do not want to write any files over the data that is gone, the more data overwritten the less chance of recovering. You might be able to recover some files off the storage with this program. Although I am not entirely sure how the nexus erases files through the unlocking process
everywhere warns you to backup because it will do a full wipe.
your fault, not the nexus.
Just had a thought...if you have a USB OTG adapter, you can try hooking up a USB drive and then use dd to dump all of /data to the drive. There are many file recovery tools that are able to analyze such dumps.
WiredPirate said:
I hope that decision isn't based on this one experience with the pics being deleted.. Because you know it would have been extremely easy to just transfer them to your computer via USB before unlocking and then transfer them back after.
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not just this experience but in general I hate the fact that this phone does not have an SD card. I understand that we are going to cloud computing and the iPhone lovers have had it this way for a while and blah blah blah... I just feel more secure knowing that if I accidently drop my phone in the toilet (done that) or go in the pool while my phone is in the pocket of my swimsuit (done that too, why the hell do they make swimsuit with pockets is beyond me), I could get the SD card out and be able to recover some of my data. I guess we all have our quirks. I just love the little micro SD card.
kvizz said:
everywhere warns you to backup because it will do a full wipe.
your fault, not the nexus.
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really? you bothered posting this response? Don't you think I know that? Thanks anyways. Someone actually thanked you for these comments. That is too funny. He must be a bigger troll.
theSpam said:
Just had a thought...if you have a USB OTG adapter, you can try hooking up a USB drive and then use dd to dump all of /data to the drive. There are many file recovery tools that are able to analyze such dumps.
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Great suggestions, hopefully I won't need it in the future. The owner of the phone convinced me that it wasn't worth it. It was just an embarrasing thing. I should have known better.
theSpam said:
Just had a thought...if you have a USB OTG adapter, you can try hooking up a USB drive and then use dd to dump all of /data to the drive. There are many file recovery tools that are able to analyze such dumps.
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That won't work. You cannot use dd to dump /data because you need somewhere to write the dump. /sdcard is located on /data, and a USB OTG mounts in /sdcard, so it becomes circular.
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loveubuntu said:
not just this experience but in general I hate the fact that this phone does not have an SD card. I understand that we are going to cloud computing and the iPhone lovers have had it this way for a while and blah blah blah... I just feel more secure knowing that if I accidently drop my phone in the toilet (done that) or go in the pool while my phone is in the pocket of my swimsuit (done that too, why the hell do they make swimsuit with pockets is beyond me), I could get the SD card out and be able to recover some of my data. I guess we all have our quirks. I just love the little micro SD card.
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I too was turned off at first by lack of ext storage, but now I dont even miss it. The phone seems to run smoother without having the ext card imo, dont have to worry about read/write speeds and compatibility. As far as recovering data from ext.. All my pics/vids are instantly uploaded to Photobucket as soon as I snap them, contacts/calendars/email are saved to Google. You can usually always just re-download ROMs/mods, not that you would instantly need them anyways if your phone is gone - plus anything like that you felt was too important to loose should be backed up to Box/Dropbox anyways. Did I miss anything that might be on the card you think you need? Because I almost guarantee I can find/already have a solution to that too.
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I too was turned off at first by lack of ext storage, but now I dont even miss it. The phone seems to run smoother without having the ext card imo, dont have to worry about read/write speeds and compatibility. As far as recovering data from ext.. All my pics/vids are instantly uploaded to Photobucket as soon as I snap them, contacts/calendars/email are saved to Google. You can usually always just re-download ROMs/mods, not that you would instantly need them anyways if your phone is gone - plus anything like that you felt was too important to loose should be backed up to Box/Dropbox anyways. Did I miss anything that might be on the card you think you need? Because I almost guarantee I can find/already have a solution to that too.
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You're right. It's probably that you can't teach an old dog new tricks
Another downfall of an sd card you forgot is the corruption issue. I've had a few go bad on me over the years, which probably can happen to the internal one also but hopefully the quality is better with an oem.
I don't like the mtp either. I've setup gmtp for my Linux box but this thing can't be easily used on just anything as a mass storage device on the road. Hate it although that may have benefits too.
I do have a Nook Color that can be brought back to life from all kinds of trouble with a bootable sd card.
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loveubuntu said:
You're right. It's probably that you can't teach an old dog new tricks
Another downfall of an sd card you forgot is the corruption issue. I've had a few go bad on me over the years, which probably can happen to the internal one also but hopefully the quality is better with an oem.
I don't like the mtp either. I've setup gmtp for my Linux box but this thing can't be easily used on just anything as a mass storage device on the road. Hate it although that may have benefits too.
I do have a Nook Color that can be brought back to life from all kinds of trouble with a bootable sd card.
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Very true. There are great advantages and there are disadvantages to removable storage. For the most part it always good to have the option. I, for one, am a data hoarder and would have loved to have the option. But I am very happy with the Nexus and glad I decided to take the chance on it. That was all I meant in my first post, just that I hope your not turned off by a device you like just because of the lack of removable storage. And your right about trying to teach a old dog new tricks. I still love and prefer all my oldschool apps even though there are new ones that may look/function better lol.
Man your friend must be pissed at you..
I suggest that you take a look at this android photo recovery solution which seems very helpful.
hope this helps.

random things o SD card missing!

So I check my SD storage, like I usually do before I go to flash a rom, since I make a backup, and it says 4.52gb, which is more that it should've been (2-2.5gb) and 6 movies were gone! Strangely enough this has happened before, but I didn't think anything of it.
My SD card is a sandisk 16gb, I got it from radio shack maybe 3 months ago. I Googler this and closest I came was making a file called .nomedia
Will this work or is there a better way to do it.
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das_webos_transformer said:
So I check my SD storage, like I usually do before I go to flash a rom, since I make a backup, and it says 4.52gb, which is more that it should've been (2-2.5gb) and 6 movies were gone! Strangely enough this has happened before, but I didn't think anything of it.
My SD card is a sandisk 16gb, I got it from radio shack maybe 3 months ago. I Googler this and closest I came was making a file called .nomedia
Will this work or is there a better way to do it.
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The .nomedia file is a way to tell android to ignore any media items in that folder, meaning pictures in there won't appear in gallery, ringtones don't show in music apps, things like that.
I would suggest using a PC and checking the card for errors.
Thank you, I also failed to mention I changes devices a lot, could this be the problem?
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das_webos_transformer said:
Thank you, I also failed to mention I changes devices a lot, could this be the problem?
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It can be, I don't swap the cards around much because I ran into issues swapping an 8gb from my nook color to my evo to copy files. Stopped having issues when I stopped swapping cards after a few formats on the PC.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.
Its proboly the reason. I download everything from my tab, so it goes tab>phone phone>tab constNly.
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External sdcard woes

Before owning the Note 2, I had the S3. The problem with the scared happens on both phones.
When I first got the Note, I removed the sdcard from the S3 and put it straight into the Note.
No media showed up. Formatted in phone, transferred media, all working as it should.
Today, add a video to card, doesn't show. Add a photo, doesn't show.
Format card, transfer media. Nothing shows up.
Am reluctant to buy another card as I tried three Cards in the S3, and the problem was present with all of them.
PS using root explorer I can find all the media, and play them in their respective apps.
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saldawop said:
Before owning the Note 2, I had the S3. The problem with the scared happens on both phones.
When I first got the Note, I removed the sdcard from the S3 and put it straight into the Note.
No media showed up. Formatted in phone, transferred media, all working as it should.
Today, add a video to card, doesn't show. Add a photo, doesn't show.
Format card, transfer media. Nothing shows up.
Am reluctant to buy another card as I tried three Cards in the S3, and the problem was present with all of them.
PS using root explorer I can find all the media, and play them in their respective apps.
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solution might be here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Thanks, for some reason that works for my videos, but not with photos and music!!!!
And that is more of a workaround than a solution. Ideally I would like for it to work as it should. Impossible for me to go back to stock as I will always need root to vieww my media(ok, I will probably always be rooted, but I want the option)
Edit: tried again and my music and photos are now showing (using Directory Bind)
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Ive had issues like this on my EVO. Try installing a "media scan" app from the market. It rescans all media content on the phone and then if you want you can remove the app after its done. I had 2 years worth of photos on my 16GB SD class 10 and no pictures or video thumbnails / pictures at all would show. Ran the app and fixed all the issues.
I did try a couple of those apps yesterday.I dont know if either one worked.I mean I know nothing showed up, but it was as though they never actually run.
Same issue
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I tried formatting several times and copied the data back, nothing helped. Also copying files from my comp to the sd card and internal storage in the phone is very slow. I bought the device yesterday, its stock unrooted.
I don't believe media (pictures/video) show up until mediascanner detects them and sticks in some internal database.
So just copying files onto your external card and popping it in isn't going to work.
media scanner is normally triggered during a reboot, and some apps can trigger it. (generally via 'rescan media' buttons).
Also make sure you don't have a .nomedia file there, as that causes media scanner to skip the directory.
( media scanner can really grind on directories with tons of files )
- Frank
ChodTheWacko said:
I don't believe media (pictures/video) show up until mediascanner detects them and sticks in some internal database.
So just copying files onto your external card and popping it in isn't going to work.
media scanner is normally triggered during a reboot, and some apps can trigger it. (generally via 'rescan media' buttons).
Also make sure you don't have a .nomedia file there, as that causes media scanner to skip the directory.
( media scanner can really grind on directories with tons of files )
- Frank
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I tried a different memory card from my old Sensation and it read the files perfectly... can any of you help me with the copying speed.. it took me 35 mins to copy 1.20GB... just to be sure i i tried to copy the same date using the same data cable and the same usb port, onto my wildfire, and it copied it pretty fast. Any idea ?
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I tried a different memory card from my old Sensation and it read the files perfectly... can any of you help me with the copying speed.. it took me 35 mins to copy 1.20GB... just to be sure i i tried to copy the same date using the same data cable and the same usb port, onto my wildfire, and it copied it pretty fast. Any idea ?
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It sounds like the Sensation card just has slower transfer rates. While your wildfire has faster transfer rates but you are experience issues on the phone side.
Just to confirm, you have formatted both cards the same way and one works and the other doesn't? If possible try to format the card from the phone. Have you tried a sandisk card?
Daniel
dachness said:
It sounds like the Sensation card just has slower transfer rates. While your wildfire has faster transfer rates but you are experience issues on the phone side.
Just to confirm, you have formatted both cards the same way and one works and the other doesn't? If possible try to format the card from the phone. Have you tried a sandisk card?
Daniel
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Both the cards are Sandisk 8gb cards, both formatted on the Note 2. I transferred data to card A when its in the wildfire, i formatted the card and put it in the note and formatted it again, and tried to copy the same data to card A, it takes more than 3times the amount of time... data transfer has been slow to the card while its in the note
I have read somewhere that there is a " .nomedia " folder somewhere. Delete that and see what happens.
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I have read somewhere that there is a " .nomedia " folder somewhere. Delete that and see what happens.
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Also on top of that, when you formatted the SDCard did you format in the PC or in your phone through recovery? You will want to format through recovery.
I would recommend upgrading to an ext partition and then formatting again (if you don't need the ext). I have found that even formatting the SDCard on some roms (because the way they work) it doesn't wipe everything and upgrading the to ext actually changes the file system of the SDCard rather than a quick format. Then only copy your media back to the card. Dont copy everything like .android, data, and stuff like that. Just what you want to keep.
HTCfreak! said:
Both the cards are Sandisk 8gb cards, both formatted on the Note 2. I transferred data to card A when its in the wildfire, i formatted the card and put it in the note and formatted it again, and tried to copy the same data to card A, it takes more than 3times the amount of time... data transfer has been slow to the card while its in the note
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Is there any chance you have a counterfeit Sandisk card? Did you buy it from an authorized dealer? If buying from Amazon make sure you only purchase directly from amazon, LLC and not a third party vendor.
For reference which sandisk card do you have what class is it rated at?
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No the card is legit, i got it in the box when i bought the HTC Sensation and worked fine on the sensation. It has good copying speed if i put it in another device like my wildfire even now. I checked copying speeds yesterday using the same card in my wildfire and my new note, but it takes forever to copy data to the card while its in the Note. I have not rooted my Note yet. Its factory stock as of now.
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nm8 said:
I have read somewhere that there is a " .nomedia " folder somewhere. Delete that and see what happens.
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Tried that, and it worked. thanks.... But still having data transfer speed issues... i copied data to the internal memory and even that is slow... this problem is not limited to only my sd card, but also the internal memory
If your internal memory is slow I would consider that cause for concern. Perhaps try running benchmarks and comparing your results to those in the benchmark thread. It may be worth returning it for another phone if you can't find a solution soon.
HTCfreak! said:
No the card is legit, i got it in the box when i bought the HTC Sensation and worked fine on the sensation. It has good copying speed if i put it in another device like my wildfire even now. I checked copying speeds yesterday using the same card in my wildfire and my new note, but it takes forever to copy data to the card while its in the Note. I have not rooted my Note yet. Its factory stock as of now.
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Tried that, and it worked. thanks.... But still having data transfer speed issues... i copied data to the internal memory and even that is slow... this problem is not limited to only my sd card, but also the internal memory
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you might have to reinstall your rom
Isn't the speed difference just to do with the way the Note 2 connects to the pc? I.E MTP as opposed to mass storage? I seem to recall my G.F's original Note is dog slow at data transfer in MTP but much faster in USB mode....shame the Note 2 can't do this, it's one of my reservations about buying it.
Ouzo said:
Isn't the speed difference just to do with the way the Note 2 connects to the pc? I.E MTP as opposed to mass storage? I seem to recall my G.F's original Note is dog slow at data transfer in MTP but much faster in USB mode....shame the Note 2 can't do this, it's one of my reservations about buying it.
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Now it makes sense to me, thanks :good:
Is there any way to connect in USB mode rather than MTP??
Can I ask if anyone else suffers from the same problem as raised in the OP?
I would imagine its not "the norm" and yet I have had the same issue on both the S3 and Note 2.
Whilst, it is now working, I am having to use Directory Bind, for it to do so.
I put in a new 64GB card on Saturday, recognised straight away in Settings/Storage, formatted fine in the phone giving me 59+GB of free space.
Put media on it...nothing shows.
I cant ever see my phone not being rooted so it can be worked around,but it just seems strange that I have had this on both phones and yet nobody else seems to suffer from it.
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Now it makes sense to me, thanks :good:
Is there any way to connect in USB mode rather than MTP??
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For whatever reason I don't think Samsung enabled USB mass storage mode on either the S3 or the Note 2. It's the one thing that's holding me back from buying one at the moment because I use iTunes Agent to sync with iTunes, and that requires the device to be in mass storage mode when connected to the pc (or you can take the sd card out and put it in a reader, but I don't like to take the back off too many times as most phones end up getting really creaky). It's a real shame because I'm just itching to get one.
Have a look in the GS3 forum - I think there's a thread where someone has created an app that enables you to toggle USB mass storage mode, but I think you might have to be rooted and have a custom kernel. Don't quote me, that's from memory
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saldawop said:
Can I ask if anyone else suffers from the same problem as raised in the OP?
I would imagine its not "the norm" and yet I have had the same issue on both the S3 and Note 2.
Whilst, it is now working, I am having to use Directory Bind, for it to do so.
I put in a new 64GB card on Saturday, recognised straight away in Settings/Storage, formatted fine in the phone giving me 59+GB of free space.
Put media on it...nothing shows.
I cant ever see my phone not being rooted so it can be worked around,but it just seems strange that I have had this on both phones and yet nobody else seems to suffer from it.
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There are a couple of threads about this I think now. I browsed some last night. Sorry, I'm only on my phone at the moment so it's a bit awkward to try and find a link for you (what with having a Sensation with only a 4.3" screen They'll be on the first page or two I think.
My girlfriend's original Note had a similar problem with photos and media after connecting an external hard drive. Going into settings/apps and clearing data on the media storage app followed by a reboot sorted the problem for her.

[Q] Some apps are no longer showing an option to save to external card...

I just got my Note 4 today and I'm trying to restore all my apps and set them to behave the same way...
1) Helium does not give me an option to restore or save from the external card
2) Smart recorder - doesn't give me an option to browse my External card
Those are the only two I've tried so far but yeah I'm a little confused as to what is going on. Is there something I'm missing? Is it due to 4.4.4?
This is a "Security Feature" that KitKat broke. Yes, it sucks very bad. One of the biggest reasons for me that we need bootloader and root.
Omg lol. I don't think I can keep the phone if that's the case. Does android L fix this?
For Note 3, was there a way to get the stock rom to see the external SD card? I want to stay on stock but not sure if will if I can't use the card how I want. I've been on Pacman for so long on my s3 I had no idea how restrictive it was
Wierd thing is that the built in "My Files" has the ability to move things around as needed but so far that's it.
Interesting. I'm thinking about working with symbolic links using solid Explorer but not sure if the phone needs to be rooted. Damn this is annoying.
Gah. Thanks for the tip on my files. I just noticed I can't do anything with solid Explorer because of the lock down. This phone needs to be rooted asap! Lol
So after all these years and advances I'm back to a write protected extsd like I had in my first xoom tablet? S.O.A.B.

Saving pictures to SD Card

Have an SD card, formatted it for the phone. The phone doesnt let me change storage location for pictures taken. Is there an easy way to do this that I overlooked?
TheNamelessMan said:
Have an SD card, formatted it for the phone. The phone doesnt let me change storage location for pictures taken. Is there an easy way to do this that I overlooked?
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I would imagine it's in one of three places:
1) In the camera app settings
2) Gallery settings
3) Haven't opened my Razer Phone yet,but,I'd also look in the general phone settings,guessing there's a storage section,perhaps it's there.
Once you do find it,if it's something you frequently access/change,you should be able to create a shortcut to it on your home screen,since Nova Launcher is the default U/I for the home screen(s)/app drawer.
KOLIOSIS said:
I would imagine it's in one of three places:
1) In the camera app settings
2) Gallery settings
3) Haven't opened my Razer Phone yet,but,I'd also look in the general phone settings,guessing there's a storage section,perhaps it's there.
Once you do find it,if it's something you frequently access/change,you should be able to create a shortcut to it on your home screen,since Nova Launcher is the default U/I for the home screen(s)/app drawer.
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1. It's not there.
2. The only gallery pre-installed is google photos, and it's not there either.
3. Not there.
Ive been on chat support with Razer all day. They need to "examine" this in their lab, as this is a huge concern.
They said within a day or 2 someone will be getting back to me.
Do you currently have an SD Card installed?
I don't on the phone I'm using ATM (Note FE) & there's nothing there for storage settings, until an SD Card is installed.
If you have an SD Card installed, then it indeed sounds like someone dropped the ball in the software department....
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Yeah very strange...I doubt I'll hear anything from them. I'm surprised an issue this severe isn't being reported by other people.
I've done everything there is to do. factory resetting the phone, formatting the cards, in and outside of the phone. using other camera apps, other galleries...it's like the camera app and the sd slot aren't linked somehow. I switch phones often, and take alot of pictures, and never have any problem transferring the card between phones.
I guess lesson learned with using a debut device. Hopefully theres some kind of software fix soon. otherwise this thing is going back.
I have no option in the default camera app either to change storage location.. I also have a sd card inserted and formatted correctly as I can access it in other apps just fine.. There literally just isn't any option to choose location!
TheNamelessMan said:
Yeah very strange...I doubt I'll hear anything from them. I'm surprised an issue this severe isn't being reported by other people.
I've done everything there is to do. factory resetting the phone, formatting the cards, in and outside of the phone. using other camera apps, other galleries...it's like the camera app and the sd slot aren't linked somehow. I switch phones often, and take alot of pictures, and never have any problem transferring the card between phones.
I guess lesson learned with using a debut device. Hopefully theres some kind of software fix soon. otherwise this thing is going back.
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chanter100 said:
I have no option in the default camera app either to change storage location.. I also have a sd card inserted and formatted correctly as I can access it in other apps just fine.. There literally just isn't any option to choose location!
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Perhaps in the meantime,you can move the photos in the gallery app using a file exploer,or,the SanDisk app.
Not a long-term permanent solution by any means....
........Since this is near-stock Android experience,almost sounds like the photo storage software was ripped from the Pixel twins,as neither have an SD Card slot....
On the topic of SD Cards I have a few questions as regarding this. I have been using iOS since the 3GS and new to Android and this would be my 1st Android device.
I am not an app heavy user and have all the apps I use already on the internal storage and running at 17.67GB out of the 58.90GB.
1) Would an SD card be worth buying 256GB Class 10 U1 card to be used to just storage Photos and Videos?
(only reason on size is because I just want the biggest storage on one card rather than on lots of smaller ones.)
2) With unlimited data on my phone is it worth buying an SD Card at all if Google Photos is a thing?
(I dont like the idea of my media just being in the cloud which why im unsure what to do here)
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On the topic of SD Cards I have a few questions as regarding this. I have been using iOS since the 3GS and new to Android and this would be my 1st Android device.
I am not an app heavy user and have all the apps I use already on the internal storage and running at 17.67GB out of the 58.90GB.
1) Would an SD card be worth buying 256GB Class 10 U1 card to be used to just storage Photos and Videos?
(only reason on size is because I just want the biggest storage on one card rather than on lots of smaller ones.)
2) With unlimited data on my phone is it worth buying an SD Card at all if Google Photos is a thing?
(I dont like the idea of my media just being in the cloud which why im unsure what to do here)
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An SD Card is more of a nice option in your scenario, but,it's one I'd recommend to have.
However, I'd recommend getting the fastest card you can buy with the same money you're willing to spend on the card you mentioned.
Get a U3 rated card, even if that means a lesser amount of extra storage, quality over quantity......
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An SD Card is more of a nice option in your scenario, but,it's one I'd recommend to have.
However, I'd recommend getting the fastest card you can buy with the same money you're willing to spend on the card you mentioned.
Get a U3 rated card, even if that means a lesser amount of extra storage, quality over quantity......
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Thanks for getting back to me so quickly I have concerns about the type of card thats best for the phone as Razer's spec site only says it can handle up to Class 10 and when I asked about U1-U3 they kinda didnt mention it at all.
Would a U1 or U3 work in a class 10 supported device and not give the extra read/write performance or will it not work at all?
iStasis said:
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly I have concerns about the type of card thats best for the phone as Razer's spec site only says it can handle up to Class 10 and when I asked about U1-U3 they kinda didnt mention it at all.
Would a U1 or U3 work in a class 10 supported device and not give the extra read/write performance or will it not work at all?
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I'd be lying if I said I knew with 100% certainty, but, I'll be putting a Samsung 256 GB SD Card (U3) in my Razer later today & I'll follow up with what I find then/post here in this thread.
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I'd be lying if I said I knew with 100% certainty, but, I'll be putting a Samsung 256 GB SD Card (U3) in my Razer later today & I'll follow up with what I find then/post here in this thread.
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Thanks for testing this for me if i dont get any benefit out of the U1-U3 in performance i may just grab a Class 10 as I will want to format it for the device as I don't plan on moving SD cards between devices as I only have two devices using this media and the other is in my Nintendo Switch so again formatted for that device.
With Black Friday coming up Id like to get it sorted soon so i know what to buy.
Back on topic please
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Back on topic please
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My apologies,back on topic ...... :good:
BTW,I have the unlocked version/carrier-free.
Finally opened mine up,after initial set-up,had a 250MB update out-of-the-box,still nada regarding camera/photo/video storage options.
I found an app in the Google Play Store,Open Camera,that has the option:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=en
I tried to enter an alternate file (from my external SD Card) & it wouldn't take.
Looked in developer options,as I'm sure you have already,nothing specific for media/photos,just the adoptable storage option for (non-system) apps.
Just took a look @ Razer Insider/Forums,nothing set up for Razer Phone just yet.
https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?forums/mobile/
Priorities for users here run the gamut,but,I'd safely guess most here would put fixing this near the top of Razer's priorities for bug fixes/updates.
@iStasis Sent you a PM..............
Got the phone last Saturday. This is the only issue I really have so far.
Submitted a support email. Hopefully this gets resolved soon. I suggest everyone submit a ticket for this and hopefully it will get resolved faster.
Having to same issue here. There is a camera app up date coming according to razer so maybe there will be a fix for it in the update
I guys spoke to razer about this and this is what they said
If the SD card is set to Internal storage, you have the option to migrate all the data. Then the default location of the data will be the SD card including the camera.
Have not tried it yet but will tomorrow
Slightly related, I can't seem to be able to transfer any files to my MicroSD card I've been using on my S8 and have it shown in the phone.... It won't show anything I transfer to it other than a System Volume Information folder that shows up for whatever reason.
Just copy/move your photos to your SD card manually.
Go to Settings>>Storage>>Internal shared storage>>Images.
Select the image you want to move/copy by long pressing the image file icon, tap the three dot menu on the top right, your SD card should show up from the left menu tree. From there, select the directory you want to move to on the SD card and voila.
Hope that helps.
lonetormenter said:
Just copy/move your photos to your SD card manually.
Go to Settings>>Storage>>Internal shared storage>>Images.
Select the image you want to move/copy by long pressing the image file icon, tap the three dot menu on the top right, your SD card should show up from the left menu tree. From there, select the directory you want to move to on the SD card and voila.
Hope that helps.
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THX,but,that isn't what were looking for,most here know how to move pix from one spot to another.
We are wanting the option to choose the storage location , before the picture/video is taken,not just moving it afterwards.
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