Hi team,
If you saw my other thread you'll know that I've not been impressed with the wireless charging speeds the Pixel 6 Pro gets. They advertise a maximum of 12W charging with compatible Qi stands and 23W with their (new, unreleased) wireless charger.
Tl;dr: most wireless chargers won't charge the Pixel 6 Pro at anywhere close to the maximum for any sustained period of time. Even Google's own Pixel Stand (last gen) has issues pushing the full 12W predictably. In comparison, both S21 Ultra and iPhone 13 Mini could consistently pull their respective maximums and were only limited by the maximum advertised rates of the phone/charger manufacturers.
I've since done some experimenting and actual measurements. For each of these measurements, I've ruled out cable/power brick issues by
using the included cable & power brick wherever possible
reproducing the measurement with multiple, high-quality cables
reproducing the measurement with multiple, OEM or otherwise high-quality power bricks
I've also reproduced the measurements with and without cases, and at various battery levels (e.g. <50% charge, etc).
I've also compared what other phones were able to get from these respective chargers, e.g. Samsung S21 Ultra, and iPhone 13 Mini, just to confirm that they were able to pull the expected power from the same chargers. In all cases, for all chargers, the S21 Ultra and iPhone 13 Mini pulled the expected maximum charge rates given whatever the charger could push (and Apple's own restriction of 11W for non-Apple-approved chargers).
Please note, all measurements are approximate since the meters I have are pretty affordable and not high-precision, but they still give a fair idea of what is possible in the real world. Please also note that you should not generally expect peak charge rates when the battery is at 90% charge. Here are my findings for the Pixel 6 Pro's actual wireless charging experience:
Charger make/modelTypical charge rangeMaximum charge (observed)Maximum charge (advertised)Case sensitivityNotesGoogle Pixel Stand4.5W - 12W13W11WMediumThe lip is really small, so it's easy to knock the phone off of this stand, especially if you have a case. But it does seem to get the best, most consistent speeds. If you use a case, you may find it complaining about alignment randomly.Samsung 15W stand (EP-N5200)3.6W - 5.5W6.4W15WNoneFluctuates a lot; slow to ramp up. Coil does not seem to align perfectly but the phone doesn't complain.Moshi Sette Q4.5W - 12W*15W*15W on both coils simultaneously (allegedly LOL)High (hard to align with case, left coil doesn't work at all in many cases)* These measurements are from the right coil. The left coil simply did not start charging most of the time, and was especially fussy about cases. The right coil worked a lot better with and without cases. If you buy this charger you should immediately test the left coil for functionality.Samsung 9W Trio charger4.5W - 5.5W5.5W9WLow (better with case)The main coils on the Trio charger advertise 9W each simultaneous. Without a case on, the Pixel slowly slips off the charger and out of alignment.
I think the numbers speak for themselves, but you can imagine I'm pretty disappointed in these results. I'd love to find out if anyone's getting a better, more consistent experience with wireless charging on their Pixel 6 Pro, and if so, what charger/case they are using. In short, in terms of wireless charging compatibility and experience, the Pixel 6 Pro is a big step backwards compared to the S21 Ultra.
I have the Samsung Trio and Duo chargers, they are awesome for my old S20 and Watch. But yeah it blows for the Pixel 6 Pro. I also have Pixel Stands, it seems like it doesn't charge as fast as Samsung phones though.
Over the last two weeks I've gone down a rabbit hole trying out different Qi chargers and am also very disappointed in what I have seen so far. I've specifically tried to go for ones that say they can do 15w Extended Profile on the wirelesspowerconsortium website. So far I've tried:
Pixel Stand
Spigen Arcfield 15W
Insignia 15w Pad
Mophie Snap+ (magnetic magsafe like one)
ForCharge Slim Wireless Charger 15w
In each case I've used the same Ravpower 61w GaN brick as the source and while they all initially seem to charge pretty fast at roughly the expected 10-11w, they ALL drop to half that (or below) after a relatively short period of charging.
I've tried this with both the Moment case (which has faux magsafe) as well as naked but the results are pretty similar. The charging is great for maybe 10 minutes then just becomes horrible, it can barely keep up when im driving and its on the mophie snap+ charger.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. On the one hand I'm glad I'm not alone in having this issue but it's disheartening to hear that the charging on this phone (wired AND wireless) is such a PITA. On wonders wtf is the real problem? Like, why does this specific phone have so many issues? Is it the custom silicon (Tensor) that just doesn't offer the same level of capabilities as the last Snapdragon? I'm worried that issues like this help explain why Google didn't release the new Pixel Stand at the same time as the phone.
I mean, can you put the phone on one of these wireless chargers and expect it to be full overnight? Generally, yes--as long as the charger agrees with the case or otherwise is grippy enough to work without a case on the phone. But if you are used to the charging speeds of the S21, or just generally maxing out Qi charging speeds which good Qi chargers, then you're in for a disappointment--at least until the new Pixel Stand comes out, whenever that might happen.
Meanwhile: my girl's iPhone 13 Mini charges at the full 15W as soon as you drop it on the Apple MagSafe charger. And it stays there consistently. Last night I charged her phone from 35% to 100% in <2 hours using that MagSafe charger.
Related
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Portabl...?ie=UTF8&qid=1389368123&sr=8-6&keywords=anker
Anker 2nd Gen Astro2 9000mAh
Manufacturer Description
Charges the iPhone 4+ times and large-capacity phones like the Galaxy S4 almost three times. Total charge output of 3A among two charging ports. One Smart Port (5V / 2.4A max) offers truly maximum speed charges to ANY device, including the iPad or even the Samsung Galaxy Tab. One additional port charges Android smartphones at full speed.
High energy efficiency rate, 10% above previous generation Astros and many current standard alternatives, gives you up to an extra full charge for your smartphone. Sturdy construction and matte finish withstands bumps and drops. Grade A cells and premium chips ensure reliability.
A "shake" starts a charge or displays the remaining power level. The ultra-low power consumption (100, 000 shakes consumes less than 1%) Smart LED display, designed with 10 LEDs, balances accuracy and aesthetics.
Input: 5V / 1.2A; Use a 1.2A adapter for fastest charging time (8 hours).
Packaging
It’s simple and minimal which is a good thing. Also, the Packaging is recyclable for you ECO friendly people out there.
Specs
Package contents: Anker® 2nd Generation Astro2 External Battery, Micro USB cable, travel pouch, instruction manual.
It’s about the perfect size for a battery pack. Easily handled with one hand, not too thick.
Here are the output details for the two ports based upon the type of device you are trying to charge:
Type of product-----------------Smart Port------Universal Port
iPad IOS 5 and above----------2.4 Amps--------1.5 Amps
iPad below IOS 5----------------2.4 Amps--------N/A
iPhone IOS 5 and above-------1 Amp------------½ Amp
iPhone below IOS 5------------1 Amp------------N/A
Android Phones-----------------1.5 Amps--------1.5 Amps
Android Tablets-----------------2 Amps-----------2 Amps
Samsung Galaxy Tablets------2 Amps-----------N/A
Other cellphones---------------1.5 Amps--------1.5 Amps
Build Quality
It’s made of plastic but of a very good build. It has a two tone look of glossy black ends with the rest being a matte black. It’s seemless from the transition from the glossy to matte. There doesn’t seem to be any gaps between the pieces. All ports are at on end. It has a ring indicators with 10 “pies”. Each pie represents 10% charge of the battery pack. It’s a nice soft white light and not too birght that a lot of electronics suffer from.
It just has one Anker logo at the top and very minimalistic.
Testing/Performance
It has a Shake feature to activate charging. Simply plug in a device and give it a quick shake and the device and start charging. Now I know what you’re thinking; leaving it in your bag will discharge the battery for no reason if nothing is plugged in. That isn’t true, it has a super smart super low discharge even when left in a bag where accidental shakes will happen.
I decided to test this out. Leaving it my baby nieces rocker, it didn’t even discharge 1 pie (10%) when left over 18 hours in the rocker.
Using the following devices:
Nexus 5
Nexus 7 2013
S3
Ipad 4
Ipad 2
Sansa Clip Zip Mp3 player
All were able to be charged without a hitch. It is to note that the max output is 3 amps. So trying to charge two devices that require 2.1 amps is simply not possible at full speed. It would charge t but at a slow rate. It can charge a 2.1 and 1 amp device without a hiccup though.
Either port would be fine for any smartphone under the sun.
Using a Nexus 5 at 26%:
30 mins – 55%
1h 13 mins – 91%
1h 28 mins – 100%
It used 3 pies (30%) to go from 26% to 100%.
Conclusion
It’s a great battery pack that has a nice shake feature! One of the better sized battery packs that has a good capacity compared to its size. A must have all tech warriors on the go.
Note- I was supplied a sample for test and evaluation, and I promised that my review is fair and honest
Did you buy this or was it a gift from Anker for review?
This is a great device. I have the 13Ah charger, and it seriously holds a charge. I've never gotten it empty before because it'll charge my phone for a week. Looking forward to the next time I fly so I can use it.
Any chance you could actually test the output with a 12w ipad? I just got a new anker astro3, and it only charger at 2.1, not a 2.4amp
Easiest way to test it is to download "batterylife"(free) in cydia, or time charging the default charger compared to the anker.
Thank you! It is advertised everywhere as 2.4amp, but it seems like they do not have that feature!
I was reading for a while through the various subforums here trying to catch some info on selecting the "best" qi charger for charging our devices here at home (N4, N5 + some others). Finally after reading this review I came to the conclusion that in terms of efficiency, power consumption and charging time more or less all qi chargers perform equal. There are some exceptions tho, like the Panasonic TM101 with it's moving coil or the Tylt VÜ. Both allow free positioning (more or less) of the devices.
I noticed that especially with a case on, proper alignment becomes very important. So you give up fiddling with tiny microUSB connectors but have to deal with aligning the phone to accquire efficient charging. So I wonder is there any affordable charger out there with multiple coils?
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I was reading for a while through the various subforums here trying to catch some info on selecting the "best" qi charger for charging our devices here at home (N4, N5 + some others). Finally after reading this review I came to the conclusion that in terms of efficiency, power consumption and charging time more or less all qi chargers perform equal. There are some exceptions tho, like the Panasonic TM101 with it's moving coil or the Tylt VÜ. Both allow free positioning (more or less) of the devices.
I noticed that especially with a case on, proper alignment becomes very important. So you give up fiddling with tiny microUSB connectors but have to deal with aligning the phone to accquire efficient charging. So I wonder is there any affordable charger out there with multiple coils?
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I have almost all the big names out there. I have the nexus 4 orb charger and the nexus 5 charger. The energizer and LG verizon branded one. I also have the Tylt Vu. Now I have the AirDock in the car.
To me multiple coils is a feature and not really required. The only one I have that has multiple coils is the Tylt Vu. Its good, but has a big footprint so that charger remains next to my alarm clock and LG G Watch charging set up. I have the LG verizon charger that my wife uses for the Nexus 4. and I use the Nexus 5 pad at work because that had the smallest footprint. I have used various cases with each of these chargers, including the airdock. From the Spigen Ultra Hybrid to the Nexus 4 replica bumper for the Nexus 5, they all work. Sure the Tylt can charge my phone horizontally, but that's it really. lol.
I guess to answer your question, the cheapest multi coil? Well even though this technically not a mulit coil, it does locate your coil for you on your qi compatible device. Pretty neat IMO.
Panasonic QE-TM101
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=Panasonic+QE-TM101&_sop=15
Here's a cheapy tylt VU clone
http://www.dx.com/p/itian-a6-3-coil...let-pc-mobile-phone-black-325355#.U_O10EFaUTk
And here's a late addtion...the Nillkin 3 coil charger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/141370021990?lpid=82
Thanks for your answer. The Panasonic charger is, according to most reviews, not supporting trickle charging. If the device is charged completely the coil returns to initial position and the battery dicharges. In some cases there is also the charging coil repeatedly moving to the device and back to parking position again. Plus for some odd reason it is only available from Japan as direct import.
Tylt VU is way too overpriced, although the concept behind it seems great. Even the clone is too expensive.
So far the Nillkin Energy Stone looks good. Just cannot sind any serious reviews of it. Also only shipping from HK only which could be a problem due to strict german customs here
I received my charger from Choetech yesterday and tested it with my moto 360 as well as a few of my other devices.
I figured that I should post my review (from amazon) up here due to the testing on the moto 360. I have bolded that parts people here will be interested in.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...r=1-1&keywords=choetech+fast+wireless+charger
First, this is an amazing charger. Choetech always makes good products.
I received this in 2 days and set about testing it.
I was going to make a video showing off this thing fast charging on a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 but I see that there are already 2 excellent videos up showing that. So instead I will show you the things they did not highlight as much.
OK, the quick charge 2.0 wall plug you can get with this is the best one I have ever tried. Just like the other Qualcomm certified chargers, you will get the self adjusting voltages (12v-9v-5v) to give you a super fast charge. The extra you get with this Choetech quick charge 2.0 adapter is the USB port on it is reversible! This is the first charger I have seen with this and I now think everything should have this.
Ok now to the real reason you are reading this. The charging puck itself is a nice clean looking puck.
It is defiantly thicker than the cheapo ones you get for a few dollars. It has some heft to it making it feel more premium.
It has rubber top and bottom to keep both the charger from slipping on your desk or the phone from slipping on top the charger.
It will most defiantly charge your Note 5 or other Samsung devices quickly.
It will also charge your older devices as well. I tested it on a few LG phones in addition to the Note 5.
I noticed no abnormal warmth from the charger or any of the phones I tested this with. This is a very welcome thing as most of my other qi chargers do have heat issues.
One final thing, I tested this charger on my moto 360 and it charged it flawlessly. Most qi chargers fail here and will overheat this watch, this one did not and it charged my moto 360 from 19% to full in about 35 minutes. that is about 15 minutes faster than the stock charger does.
I received this product in exchange for an honest review, this does not affect my opinion of this product.
The fast charging works for a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, right? As far as I know that's a requirement as the new charger operates at a higher voltage.
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The fast charging works for a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, right? As far as I know that's a requirement as the new charger operates at a higher voltage.
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It will fast charge at a higher voltage on a Note 5 or S6 Edge+, but will work at normal speeds on every other Qi enabled device, including our moto 360.
Milimbar said:
I received my charger from Choetech yesterday and tested it with my moto 360 as well as a few of my other devices.
I figured that I should post my review (from amazon) up here due to the testing on the moto 360. I have bolded that parts people here will be interested in.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...r=1-1&keywords=choetech+fast+wireless+charger
First, this is an amazing charger. Choetech always makes good products.
I received this in 2 days and set about testing it.
I was going to make a video showing off this thing fast charging on a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 but I see that there are already 2 excellent videos up showing that. So instead I will show you the things they did not highlight as much.
OK, the quick charge 2.0 wall plug you can get with this is the best one I have ever tried. Just like the other Qualcomm certified chargers, you will get the self adjusting voltages (12v-9v-5v) to give you a super fast charge. The extra you get with this Choetech quick charge 2.0 adapter is the USB port on it is reversible! This is the first charger I have seen with this and I now think everything should have this.
Ok now to the real reason you are reading this. The charging puck itself is a nice clean looking puck.
It is defiantly thicker than the cheapo ones you get for a few dollars. It has some heft to it making it feel more premium.
It has rubber top and bottom to keep both the charger from slipping on your desk or the phone from slipping on top the charger.
It will most defiantly charge your Note 5 or other Samsung devices quickly.
It will also charge your older devices as well. I tested it on a few LG phones in addition to the Note 5.
I noticed no abnormal warmth from the charger or any of the phones I tested this with. This is a very welcome thing as most of my other qi chargers do have heat issues.
One final thing, I tested this charger on my moto 360 and it charged it flawlessly. Most qi chargers fail here and will overheat this watch, this one did not and it charged my moto 360 from 19% to full in about 35 minutes. that is about 15 minutes faster than the stock charger does.
I received this product in exchange for an honest review, this does not affect my opinion of this product.
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Seems they have a cheaper standard wireless charger for other Qi enabled device. Same design but cheaper at 20 bucks.
Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013AB620C
RAM LILA said:
Seems they have a cheaper standard wireless charger for other Qi enabled device. Same design but cheaper at 20 bucks.
Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013AB620C
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I have not tried it but I would assume with how well the fast charge one works, the cheaper one should also work to charge out watches without overheating them.
Interesting charger! Are wireless chargers efficient and as quick as cabled chargers? How long does it complete 100% charging your phone?
MonaSpencer said:
Interesting charger! Are wireless chargers efficient and as quick as cabled chargers? How long does it complete 100% charging your phone?
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Just from experience, no science here.
A normal Qi charger will take about 2 times as long to charge your phone as a standard 2a charger.
This fast Qi charger is about the same speed on a compatible phone as a normal cable charger.
The fastest way to charge is with a qualcom certified quick charger and phone, that is significantly faster than a standard charger.
Think I'll pick one up,no overheating,that's worth it alone.
Hi all, I'm considering getting this device, but want to have wireless charging.
has anyone purchased a 3rd party wireless charging receiver, and if so, what has been your experience? are you using a case?
thanks!
The Pixels do not natively support wireless charging. You will have to wait for a company to make a wireless charging case that adds this functionality.
For example, on the Pixel 1:
http://www.mophie.com/shop/juice-pack-pixel-xl
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Type-C-W...5277&wl11=online&wl12=329382371&wl13=&veh=sem
He is talking about something like this and was wondering what people's experience was using them
AsuraDas said:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Type-C-W...5277&wl11=online&wl12=329382371&wl13=&veh=sem
He is talking about something like this and was wondering what people's experience was using them
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correct.
looking at the reviews on Amazon, many users are claiming that it works fine with the pixel 2.
I haven't used them, my only concern is how easy it would be to unplug the wireless charger in the even I need to access it either to charge or connect it to something like computer or God forbid headphones
AsuraDas said:
I haven't used them, my only concern is how easy it would be to unplug the wireless charger in the even I need to access it either to charge or connect it to something like computer or God forbid headphones
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100% agreed.
that's why I enjoy my droid turbo (built in wireless charging).
however, i MAY be fine with accepting this so long as the battery life is great as it has been claimed (able to go a full day in between charges), and I may ask for a pair of them google pixel ear buds for my birthday.
so the solution would be to get an extra wireless charging pad (less than $10) and get a pair of wireless earbuds.
but if the deal breaker for me would be the battery life. my current device as a 3900mAh battery and can go all day and then some. but, it is 2+ years old, and the battery is deteriorating, so it's not lasting as long. but if the Pixel 2 can deliver, then I may be fine with that.
Honestly battery life has been really good for me. I get 4+ hours of SoT which includes playing games and watching videos.
AsuraDas said:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Type-C-W...5277&wl11=online&wl12=329382371&wl13=&veh=sem
He is talking about something like this and was wondering what people's experience was using them
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Oh, very cool, actually! I would also be worried about continuous unplug/replug for anyone using wired headphones or wanting to plug in for faster recharge. Let us know if you try it!
Lost wireless charging when I got the Nexux 5x. Never really missed it much. While somewhat convenient, it was slow to charge and many times when I needed a fast charge I just plugged in anyway.
So, Nexus 5X -> Pixel -> Pixel 2, same thing, I have chargers where I need them and charging is pretty quick. So, at the office, in my truck, by the recliner and in my home office I have fast chargers. I am covered. I also have a fast chargers in my backpack when I out an about.
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Lost wireless charging when I got the Nexux 5x. Never really missed it much. While somewhat convenient, it was slow to charge and many times when I needed a fast charge I just plugged in anyway.
So, Nexus 5X -> Pixel -> Pixel 2, same thing, I have chargers where I need them and charging is pretty quick. So, at the office, in my truck, by the recliner and in my home office I have fast chargers. I am covered. I also have a fast chargers in my backpack when I out an about.
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understood that wireless charging is a preference and not a necessity.
as for me, it's more of a convenience factor as well as less wear/tear on the port (and battery life from my understanding). to have the ability to pick it up and go rather than pulling on a cord is a great help.
i did this with my wife's iPhone 7. and she really enjoys it (and it's difficult to get her to adopt to new technologies - hence why she has an iPhone).
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Hi all, I'm considering getting this device, but want to have wireless charging.
has anyone purchased a 3rd party wireless charging receiver, and if so, what has been your experience? are you using a case?
thanks!
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I purchased the Spigen thin fit case and a Nillkin usb-c qi tag (short version). Have been using it for a few weeks and works with all my old Qi chargers used on my Nexus 6.
The case has a recessed area where the tag can sit without producing a bulge.
reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/7an3sm/pixel_2_wireless_charging_solution_nillkin_qi_tag/
To throw my 2 cents in. Used a USB Type-C wireless receiver with my OG Pixel XL and it worked fine, as soon as received my PXL2 I connected the adapter but it was unfortunately insufficient to provide a decent charge, even over night, many times having the same or less battery percentage left than before laying it on the Qi charger. I have since tried 2 different wireless receivers with the same result. I've gotta believe they can manufacturer one that will out put enough juice to power and charge the battery. If anyone comes across one, please let the community know. TIA.
I've purchased the Nillkin short receiver and it does not work.
I charged it overnight in a thin Spigen case and it discharged 5% overnight.
I tried charging using the receiver outside of the case and at best pulled 0.31A on a 1.5A rated qi base.
What about one of the "Magsafe" type USB C cables (https://www.amazon.co.uk/COCHING-Magnetic-Charging-Lightning-Adapters/dp/B073HC1DJB/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1522506792&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+c+magnetic) if you're looking to reduce wear and tear? I assume you still get quick charge.
Looking at Nillkin's website, the tech specs on the USB-C "magic tag" give it a max output of 5V/1A. As we all know, Volts x Amps = charginess (or "Watts," for the electrical engineers). The power supply that comes with the Pixel 2 has an output of 5V/3A or 9V/2A.
So the phone's stock power supply charges at 15w or 18w. The Nillkin magic tag only feeds it 5w. At best, that's going to be a SLOOOOOOOOOW charge. The type 3 "fast charge edition" charger says it outputs more (10w). So the fast charger will send 10w to the magic tag, which will then feed 5w to your phone's battery.
Too bad. Seems like this could be a viable solution if there's a receiver that will output 10w. I mean, that still wouldn't charge as fast as the stock, wired power supply but at least it would probably charge. I'd love to have wireless charging with my new Pixel 2 but if the best it can do is 5 Watts, I'll live with the minor inconvenience of having to plug it in.
I thought wireless require all glass body which would be a no for me
First off: love this phone. Already selling my S21 Ultra. However, I found an issue that seems specific to the Pixel 6 Pro.
I have a ton of wireless chargers but most don't seem to push enough juice to even charge this phone. Which is weird, because they are capable of pushing at least 9W but in most cases, they don't even push 5W to the phone, even when the battery is <25%.
I have one fancy charger (moshi Sette Q) which can push 15W per coil--there I can max out at the Pixel's rated 12W if the phone is cool, but only until the battery hits 90 deg F. Once it exceeds that, the charging rate drops down to 7.5W or lower, and the predicted time to full charge more than doubles. Coincidentally it seems to hit that 90 degrees within mere minutes of starting the wireless charge. I'm measuring battery temp (not power) using AccuBattery, and power using various USB meters.
The same chargers, power bricks, cables push their max wattage to the S21 Ultra even if the Ultra is >50% charge. And just for kicks I tried my girl's iPhone 13 mini and it instantly hit its max charging power w/o MagSafe (10W, from what I can see). In other words, there's no specific evidence that there's any issue with my power bricks, cables, or wireless chargers. All are reputably branded and genuine parts and if they work with both the S21 Ultra and the iPhone 13 mini then you can probably rest assured they are not the problem.
So, it seems like the Pixel 6 Pro is doing some severe thermal throttling when wireless charging, and the upshot is that you barely ever get the full 12W Qi charging capability of the phone, and most of the time you end up charging at <7.5W.
Anyone else seeing this? If you're charging wirelessly, how's the experience? Does your battery hit 90 F in no time at all? Does it start to reduce Qi charging current once it hits ~90F?
If other folks are having a fine time wireless charging this phone, and you're getting that full 12W on the reg, I guess it's possible that I have a bum phone. Let me know what charger(s) you're using. But if you haven't noticed a problem yet, you might want to pay closer attention to your charging speeds to see if you're seeing the same thermal throttling.
If it's not just a bum phone, then this seems like a major issue. Big enough to force Google to delay the launch of their next-gen wireless charger, the new Pixel Stand.
I'm seeing the same. New Anker magsafe style charger is 3-4 watts... iOttie car vent gets it to 9-10...
Yes, same problem. I wonder if that's why we haven't seen the Pixel stand.
I'm using the original Pixel Stand and it seems to be charging at about 14W which is the max it can deliver.
I haven't noticed it getting very warm when charging but then I have been asleep
I have noticed a couple of times, lifting the phone off the charger in the morning, it was slightly warm. AccuBattery said it had been fully charged hours before that.
The phone is in a Spigen Rugged Armour case and I just leave it in it to charge.
how do you check the speed its charging at? Ill check mine overnight and see. I bought this one...
yootech 3 in 1 Wireless Charging Station for Multi-Device - with 20W USB C Port & 5W USB A Port for Airpods/iPad, 15W Max Wireless Charger Stand for iPhone 12/SE/11 Pro/XS Max/XR,Galaxy S21/S20/S10: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy yootech 3 in 1 Wireless Charging Station for Multi-Device - with 20W USB C Port & 5W USB A Port for Airpods/iPad, 15W Max Wireless Charger Stand for iPhone 12/SE/11 Pro/XS Max/XR,Galaxy S21/S20/S10 at Amazon UK.
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how do you check the speed its charging at? Ill check mine overnight and see. I bought this one...
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I'm using one of THESE and also have AccuBattery Pro.
One thing I found with AcuuBattery is it seems to assume the charging voltage is always 5V
So when I am charging it shows the current as 2.3A x 5V = 12.5W
Whereas the actual charge on the voltmeter shows 1.4A x 9V = 12.5W
Interesting. I just set my phone down at night on a fly-by-night brand qi pad I bought several years ago, and by morning the phone is charged full and ready to go. Don't know, or care, how fast it charges as long as its full by morning. The few times I've had to grab the phone after charging for a while, it hasn't seemed at all warm.
But I'm running on google-free nice clean AOSP. Might be that some of that google spyware is sucking up power faster than you can supply it?
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No idea what speed this equates to. Only put it on the charger for a few minutes to see.
skimminstones said:
how do you check the speed its charging at? Ill check mine overnight and see. I bought this one...
yootech 3 in 1 Wireless Charging Station for Multi-Device - with 20W USB C Port & 5W USB A Port for Airpods/iPad, 15W Max Wireless Charger Stand for iPhone 12/SE/11 Pro/XS Max/XR,Galaxy S21/S20/S10: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
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The way I've been doing it is via a USB C power meter which is just in line between the wall wart and the wireless charger.
I also have a USBC cable that has a built-in power meter and I get similar results. Another thing you can do is just put the phone on charger you have, then go into settings and battery and just monitor the time estimate for charging. Do you ever see it advertise upwards of 3 hours of charging time or otherwise jump from something reasonable like 2 hours up to 4 hours?
It seems like there's two main problems. Number one that the wireless charging coils are extremely narrow compared to S21 Ultra. So the sweet spot is super small and difficult to find. Number two. Once the phone hits 90° f, then it is throttling the charging speed. And honestly, I don't know if that's a cooling problem or if that's just an overly conservative algorithm. Either way it's kind of ****ed up to advertise 12W wireless charging and then have this type of experience.
I've been using the app Inware to see the live amperage, wattage, and voltage.
Inware on Google Play
JohnKuczek said:
I've been using the app Inware to see the live amperage, wattage, and voltage.
Inware on Google Play
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Thanks for the tip. I didn't know about that one. I think the problem here is probably related to the overall charging limitations that the phone has. If you look at the other threads in this form, you can see quite a few that are related to slow charging speeds even when using the wall wart. But still this is extremely disingenuous from Google and straight up inaccurate advertising when it comes to charging speeds.
For those of you who have the old Pixel stand charger, IT WORKS !!!
All I want is a full charge by AM, and it usually gets a lil boost charge when I drive my sprinter.
About to look for a new wireless charger, but now using the 30 watt Google plug and cable and phone charges up faster than any I have owned previously, nearly all galaxies but the 6 Pro is noticably better, wired.