First off: love this phone. Already selling my S21 Ultra. However, I found an issue that seems specific to the Pixel 6 Pro.
I have a ton of wireless chargers but most don't seem to push enough juice to even charge this phone. Which is weird, because they are capable of pushing at least 9W but in most cases, they don't even push 5W to the phone, even when the battery is <25%.
I have one fancy charger (moshi Sette Q) which can push 15W per coil--there I can max out at the Pixel's rated 12W if the phone is cool, but only until the battery hits 90 deg F. Once it exceeds that, the charging rate drops down to 7.5W or lower, and the predicted time to full charge more than doubles. Coincidentally it seems to hit that 90 degrees within mere minutes of starting the wireless charge. I'm measuring battery temp (not power) using AccuBattery, and power using various USB meters.
The same chargers, power bricks, cables push their max wattage to the S21 Ultra even if the Ultra is >50% charge. And just for kicks I tried my girl's iPhone 13 mini and it instantly hit its max charging power w/o MagSafe (10W, from what I can see). In other words, there's no specific evidence that there's any issue with my power bricks, cables, or wireless chargers. All are reputably branded and genuine parts and if they work with both the S21 Ultra and the iPhone 13 mini then you can probably rest assured they are not the problem.
So, it seems like the Pixel 6 Pro is doing some severe thermal throttling when wireless charging, and the upshot is that you barely ever get the full 12W Qi charging capability of the phone, and most of the time you end up charging at <7.5W.
Anyone else seeing this? If you're charging wirelessly, how's the experience? Does your battery hit 90 F in no time at all? Does it start to reduce Qi charging current once it hits ~90F?
If other folks are having a fine time wireless charging this phone, and you're getting that full 12W on the reg, I guess it's possible that I have a bum phone. Let me know what charger(s) you're using. But if you haven't noticed a problem yet, you might want to pay closer attention to your charging speeds to see if you're seeing the same thermal throttling.
If it's not just a bum phone, then this seems like a major issue. Big enough to force Google to delay the launch of their next-gen wireless charger, the new Pixel Stand.
I'm seeing the same. New Anker magsafe style charger is 3-4 watts... iOttie car vent gets it to 9-10...
Yes, same problem. I wonder if that's why we haven't seen the Pixel stand.
I'm using the original Pixel Stand and it seems to be charging at about 14W which is the max it can deliver.
I haven't noticed it getting very warm when charging but then I have been asleep
I have noticed a couple of times, lifting the phone off the charger in the morning, it was slightly warm. AccuBattery said it had been fully charged hours before that.
The phone is in a Spigen Rugged Armour case and I just leave it in it to charge.
how do you check the speed its charging at? Ill check mine overnight and see. I bought this one...
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how do you check the speed its charging at? Ill check mine overnight and see. I bought this one...
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I'm using one of THESE and also have AccuBattery Pro.
One thing I found with AcuuBattery is it seems to assume the charging voltage is always 5V
So when I am charging it shows the current as 2.3A x 5V = 12.5W
Whereas the actual charge on the voltmeter shows 1.4A x 9V = 12.5W
Interesting. I just set my phone down at night on a fly-by-night brand qi pad I bought several years ago, and by morning the phone is charged full and ready to go. Don't know, or care, how fast it charges as long as its full by morning. The few times I've had to grab the phone after charging for a while, it hasn't seemed at all warm.
But I'm running on google-free nice clean AOSP. Might be that some of that google spyware is sucking up power faster than you can supply it?
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how do you check the speed its charging at? Ill check mine overnight and see. I bought this one...
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No idea what speed this equates to. Only put it on the charger for a few minutes to see.
skimminstones said:
how do you check the speed its charging at? Ill check mine overnight and see. I bought this one...
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The way I've been doing it is via a USB C power meter which is just in line between the wall wart and the wireless charger.
I also have a USBC cable that has a built-in power meter and I get similar results. Another thing you can do is just put the phone on charger you have, then go into settings and battery and just monitor the time estimate for charging. Do you ever see it advertise upwards of 3 hours of charging time or otherwise jump from something reasonable like 2 hours up to 4 hours?
It seems like there's two main problems. Number one that the wireless charging coils are extremely narrow compared to S21 Ultra. So the sweet spot is super small and difficult to find. Number two. Once the phone hits 90° f, then it is throttling the charging speed. And honestly, I don't know if that's a cooling problem or if that's just an overly conservative algorithm. Either way it's kind of ****ed up to advertise 12W wireless charging and then have this type of experience.
I've been using the app Inware to see the live amperage, wattage, and voltage.
Inware on Google Play
JohnKuczek said:
I've been using the app Inware to see the live amperage, wattage, and voltage.
Inware on Google Play
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Thanks for the tip. I didn't know about that one. I think the problem here is probably related to the overall charging limitations that the phone has. If you look at the other threads in this form, you can see quite a few that are related to slow charging speeds even when using the wall wart. But still this is extremely disingenuous from Google and straight up inaccurate advertising when it comes to charging speeds.
For those of you who have the old Pixel stand charger, IT WORKS !!!
All I want is a full charge by AM, and it usually gets a lil boost charge when I drive my sprinter.
About to look for a new wireless charger, but now using the 30 watt Google plug and cable and phone charges up faster than any I have owned previously, nearly all galaxies but the 6 Pro is noticably better, wired.
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Anybody come across a car charger that is high current like the HTC wall charger?
Most car chargers are classified as "rapid".
Anything designed to charge an iPad (2.1A versus the typical 1A) will give you plenty of juice. I use the Scosche reVIVE II with Pandora, Bluetooth, and GPS Navigation all on and still have enough power to positively charge my battery.
Fair warning, though, this will cause the phone to get real hot (I've had the overheating warning lights flash twice so far), so make sure you have plenty of ventilation around the phone, keep it out of the sun, etc etc.
Any charger that is at least 1 amp. will do. The phone 'pulls' a max of around 0.85 amps. No need for more then 1 amp.
If it has a replaceable cable, it must be the heaviest gauge, shortest cable, that you can use. I have seen long cheap thin cables that drop over a volt, and the Thunderbolt charges really slowly.
The charger or cable have to state that they for rapid charging. To rapid charge, you need to have the USB D- and D+ lines shorted. If that are not shorted, the Thunderbolt limits the charge current to around 0.35 amps. thinking it is connected to a PC. If they are shorted, letting the Thunderbolt know it can be rapid charged, you get up there around 0.85. You can easily modify the charger for high rate if it is good for at least an amp.
And in the end is heat. Heat and lots of it. It will damage the battery. So put it out of the sun and in cool air like near a vent.
Motorola Rapid Charger on Amazon is the best. I bought two.
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There are so many sketchy sellers selling phone chargers out there, that it can be a bit scary. The problem is that if the charger is poorly made, the output of the charger can be out of spec and can, in some cases, fry the phone you connect to it.
For that reason, when it comes to phone chargers, you should stick to name brands. (They are all made in China, but the name brand ones are usually subject to stricter QA).
When I found this charger on Amazon, SOLD BY AMAZON, I jumped on it. It's a MICRO USB car charger, made for Motorola and sold under the Motorola name, in retail packaging. The rated output is 4.75-5.25V and 950mA.
This charger should work fine with most any phone that uses the MICRO USB connector. The key number to pay attention to is the second one, the rated amperage. This is the MAXIMUM amount of current that the phone can request from the charger. A typical USB port on a PC provides as little as 100mA, and few provide more than 500mA. So this charger should charge your phone faster than when it's connected to a PC. A few phones out now can use up to 1000mA. But that just means they CAN use that amount. If 950mA is provided, they'll still charge, just a bit more slowly.
Note that the amperage (second number) merely tells you how much the charger CAN supply, if requested. The phone itself is responsible for asking for the current. That is to say, if this charger can provide 950mA, but your phone can only use 300mA--no problem. Your phone asks for 300mA and the charger provides all of what is requested. If, on the other hand, your phone can use 1000mA, this charger will provide all it can, which is 950mA--a wee bit less than the max asked for. That's also not a problem; it just means your phone will charge a little bit (not much in this case) more slowly. The rated voltage for this charger is presented in a range of 4.75-5.25V. The "ideal" voltage for a USB charger of any type if 5V. And most chargers for home use are rated right at 5V. But car chargers work in a noisier environment and thus you have the range. This is where a cheapo charger can really do damage, as some of them are poorly regulated and can provide voltages that are WAY out of spec. Again, when you can get a name brand charger from a seller you can trust (Amazon) for such a reasonable price, it's very foolish to consider the cheapo no-names.
This is an excellent quality name brand travel micro USB charger at a price that beats the no-name junk from third party sellers. What's not to like?
BE SURE TO ORDER IT FROM AMAZON AND NOT ONE OF THE THIRD PARTY SELLERS, as some of those have been known to make mistakes with respect to what they ship relative to the listing. I can confirm that Amazon is shipping the P513 /89143N charger, as pictured.
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Motorola Rapid Charger on Amazon is the best. I bought two.
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I've been contemplating buying this one, but I'd like to ask you if it charges your battery with navigation+music going? I have a usb charger in my truck, and with both of those going it just manages to keep my battery level where its at, sometimes losing a % or two.
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I've been contemplating buying this one, but I'd like to ask you if it charges your battery with navigation+music going? I have a usb charger in my truck, and with both of those going it just manages to keep my battery level where its at, sometimes losing a % or two.
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From what I've read in the past here on XDA and on the reviews for the charger (on amazon) you shouldn't have a problem. The second review for the charger on amazon states that the reviewer was looking for a charger which actually charged his phone will using GPS and that he found it. It's a very well built charger and cheap. It's made my Motorola and sold by Amazon so buy with confidence.
kr0n1c said:
I've been contemplating buying this one, but I'd like to ask you if it charges your battery with navigation+music going? I have a usb charger in my truck, and with both of those going it just manages to keep my battery level where its at, sometimes losing a % or two.
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It does indeed charge. I've had it since my original Droid and was concerned when I updated to the TB but it will charge the TB no matter what you're doing (I've had Nav running while on a phone call with BT and searching the internet and it still showed it was charging). Just be prepared for your phone to get HOT!! Great charger.
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Any charger that is at least 1 amp. will do. The phone 'pulls' a max of around 0.85 amps. No need for more then 1 amp.
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Actually, the phone will pull more than 850 mA. You're probably basing that on using a battery monitor, which only shows the flow of current into/out of the battery. I've seen 800 mA into the battery at the same time I have display, GPS and a phone call going, which is definitely more than an additional 50 mA. It wouldn't surprise me if the phone can take advantage of something more than 1A, since I see a battery drain of more than 200 mA with all of that going when not on the charger.
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I've been contemplating buying this one, but I'd like to ask you if it charges your battery with navigation+music going? I have a usb charger in my truck, and with both of those going it just manages to keep my battery level where its at, sometimes losing a % or two.
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I have that Motorola charger and am a heavy GPS user. It charges the battery as if it were plugged into the wall. You'll be very satisfied.
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Actually, the phone will pull more than 850 mA. You're probably basing that on using a battery monitor, which only shows the flow of current into/out of the battery. I've seen 800 mA into the battery at the same time I have display, GPS and a phone call going, which is definitely more than an additional 50 mA. It wouldn't surprise me if the phone can take advantage of something more than 1A, since I see a battery drain of more than 200 mA with all of that going when not on the charger.
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No, that was measured at the 5 volt power supply, based upon a lab power supply. I did a lot of experimenting when I developed the charger and phone mount for my motorcycle. And to get the 850ma from the power supply, I used a very short, maybe 8 inch, USB cable, and a charge voltage close to 5.3 volts. With 5 volts at the power supply, it would only pull about 650ma from the power supply. That was due to the voltage drop in the USB cable. With the 5.3 volts at the power supply, I was getting close to an actual 5 volts at the Thunderbolt. I never measured the current at the battery, but I could see it being a bit more then the 850ma in, if there were a switch mode supply in there.
Though I like the Battery Monitor widget as a rough guide, I never tested to see if the battery current and the battery monitor are accurate.
Does anyone know if the included HTC ac adapter and cable will charge faster than using your pc with the included USB cable?
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Does anyone know if the included HTC ac adapter and cable will charge faster than using your pc with the included USB cable?
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Absolutely.
A PC USB port is limited to under 500ma. The Thunderbolt appears to to limit PC USB draw to about 350ma. I haven't measured the actual current in the HTC charger, but it is a high current charger, and charges my Thunderbolt very quickly. Battery Monitor widget shows high battery charge rates. I suspect it is getting near the max rate up near 1 amp.
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Absolutely.
A PC USB port is limited to under 500ma. The Thunderbolt appears to to limit PC USB draw to about 350ma. I haven't measured the actual current in the HTC charger, but it is a high current charger, and charges my Thunderbolt very quickly. Battery Monitor widget shows high battery charge rates. I suspect it is getting near the max rate up near 1 amp.
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HTC charger states 5V/1A on the charger itself.
You can use the Palm car charger for $3.75+tax, free shipping. it is 5V/1A, same rating as the HTC wall charger.
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HTC charger states 5V/1A on the charger itself.
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That doesn't mean much. That is the MAX the charger can output. The amount that the Thunderbolt will pull varies. If it thinks it is plugged into a USB, it will be less then 500ma. even if the charger is capable of 10 amps.
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That doesn't mean much. That is the MAX the charger can output. The amount that the Thunderbolt will pull varies. If it thinks it is plugged into a USB, it will be less then 500ma. even if the charger is capable of 10 amps.
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i have used the Palm car charger, checking with bmw, it shows around 850ma, same as on my htc charger.
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Any charger that is at least 1 amp. will do. The phone 'pulls' a max of around 0.85 amps. No need for more then 1 amp.
If it has a replaceable cable, it must be the heaviest gauge, shortest cable, that you can use. I have seen long cheap thin cables that drop over a volt, and the Thunderbolt charges really slowly.
The charger or cable have to state that they for rapid charging. To rapid charge, you need to have the USB D- and D+ lines shorted. If that are not shorted, the Thunderbolt limits the charge current to around 0.35 amps. thinking it is connected to a PC. If they are shorted, letting the Thunderbolt know it can be rapid charged, you get up there around 0.85. You can easily modify the charger for high rate if it is good for at least an amp.
And in the end is heat. Heat and lots of it. It will damage the battery. So put it out of the sun and in cool air like near a vent.
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um, i am aware that any charger that will do 1A will do. that was my question, what car charger will do 1A. Alot of times, they dont have that info listed on pages that are selling them.
and the whole thing about the D- and D+ shorted together, i do not believe. the HTC cable that came with the phone does rapid charging and i use it for data all the time too. if they D- and D+ was shorted, i would not be able to use it for data transfer. not unless the HTC charger shorts them internally inside the charger.
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unless the HTC charger shorts them internally inside the charger.
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Bingo!!
leoingle said:
um, i am aware that any charger that will do 1A will do. that was my question, what car charger will do 1A. Alot of times, they dont have that info listed on pages that are selling them.
and the whole thing about the D- and D+ shorted together, i do not believe. the HTC cable that came with the phone does rapid charging and i use it for data all the time too. if they D- and D+ was shorted, i would not be able to use it for data transfer. not unless the HTC charger shorts them internally inside the charger.
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Yes, it is hard to find the current info online or even on the package sometimes.
Yes, it is shorted in the charger. I have seen it done in the cable and the cable can't be used for data of course. Not sure why anyone would do that, but they do.
Lots of questions here...
G7 comes with QC 3.0 although the chipset can support QC 4.0 as per Qualcomm. I see on other forums that users can tell when their phone is quick-charging or slow-charging.
1) Does the G7 let you know what speed it is charging at? I'd like to know so I can swap out cables, chargers, Qi pad, to get the fastest charging rate.
2) Is there a difference between Samsung's Fast Charging, and Qualcomm's QC 3.0?
3) If a charger says that it is compatible with Samsung S9's or S9+'s fast charging, will it fast charge the G7?
4) is there a QC Qi pad that is compatible with our QC 3.0 phone? If so, can I assume that I would still need to power it with a QC 3.0 wall wart?
5) Will a USB-PD or USB-IF charger quick charge our phones?
6) What is the minimum QC cable type (USB 2.0, 3.0, or 3.1) needed to get the maximum QC 3.0 charge? Does it have to be a 3.1 cable?
7) I've seen that when I put the G7 on my 1st gen Qi pad (5W micro-USB) that the phone screen lights up, and a circle briefly appears with the charged percentage in the center (while phone is on stand-by). If the phone is unlocked and the display is on, a white window telling me it is wirelessly charging shows up and tells me how long until the phone will be fully charged (again, when placed on a Qi pad). It's currently telling me 19 minutes to full charge from 93%. Is there a way to get this remaining-time info while cable-charging through the USB-C port?
Thanks!
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Lots of questions here...
G7 comes with QC 3.0 although the chipset can support QC 4.0 as per Qualcomm. I see on other forums that users can tell when their phone is quick-charging or slow-charging.
1) Does the G7 let you know what speed it is charging at? I'd like to know so I can swap out cables, chargers, Qi pad, to get the fastest charging rate.
2) Is there a difference between Samsung's Fast Charging, and Qualcomm's QC 3.0?
3) If a charger says that it is compatible with Samsung S9's or S9+'s fast charging, will it fast charge the G7?
4) is there a QC Qi pad that is compatible with our QC 3.0 phone? If so, can I assume that I would still need to power it with a QC 3.0 wall wart?
5) Will a USB-PD or USB-IF charger quick charge our phones?
6) What is the minimum QC cable type (USB 2.0, 3.0, or 3.1) needed to get the maximum QC 3.0 charge? Does it have to be a 3.1 cable?
7) I've seen that when I put the G7 on my 1st gen Qi pad (5W micro-USB) that the phone screen lights up, and a circle briefly appears with the charged percentage in the center (while phone is on stand-by). If the phone is unlocked and the display is on, a white window telling me it is wirelessly charging shows up and tells me how long until the phone will be fully charged (again, when placed on a Qi pad). It's currently telling me 19 minutes to full charge from 93%. Is there a way to get this remaining-time info while cable-charging through the USB-C port?
Thanks!
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The charge rate of the phone irrespective of the chargers we use, it is controlled by the stock kernel. When screen is on, it lowers down the amperage (See Ampere App) to keep off the heat, vice versa etc. We need a custom kernel to have the charging amperes to be changed manually which is really cool. If we have a really cool custom kernel, the CPU governors should preset customisable governors (for smooth performance) and for the charge values, just look for a 3A charger, with the Kernel Adiutor change the values. Meaning the benefits of rooting gives us the complete freedom of our Android! If a 4A charger is detected by the kernel manager app, the charge values should show as "upto 4A even with the screen on! Then no need to be jealous of Dash Charging of One Plus!
I think this article will help you out... Breaks it all down... Samsung charger are not the greatest for fast charging but works better than a basic one... Ultimately I would say USB c to USB c with USB PD is your fastest with QC 3.0/4.0 being a close second..
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-does-fast-charging-work/
I don't see that wireless fast charging is b supported by the g7 ... That's a Samsung gimmick ... But the Qi standard chargers charge at the same rate as a basic charger... The lock screen always tells you how long until full no matter what charger you are using and it will say fast charging, wireless or just charging... My observations have been around 1.5 hour for 60 percent to full so about 5 hours if dead, great before going to sleep and I missed it in my least few phones
two_cents said:
I think this article will help you out... Breaks it all down... Samsung charger are not the greatest for fast charging but works better than a basic one... Ultimately I would say USB c to USB c with USB PD is your fastest with QC 3.0/4.0 being a close second..
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-does-fast-charging-work/
I don't see that wireless fast charging is b supported by the g7 ... That's a Samsung gimmick ... But the Qi standard chargers charge at the same rate as a basic charger... The lock screen always tells you how long until full no matter what charger you are using and it will say fast charging, wireless or just charging... My observations have been around 1.5 hour for 60 percent to full so about 5 hours if dead, great before going to sleep and I missed it in my least few phones
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Thanks! I noticed you do not have a G7 listed as a current phone in your signature. Is your answer above based upon your experience with Samsung phones and their charging system, or specifically with the G7 (or other QC 3.0 phones)?
I hadn't notice the charging speed on the lock screen, as I have the phone set to basically bypass it all the time (fingerprint, facial recognition, & geo-fence)...so I didn't even know it was listed there on the bottom. Thanks again...now I know it's there
Strange thing is I went through a bunch of permutations with cables (various generations), and charge blocks and Qi pads this morning, and with the phone starting at 93% charged, it made no difference in remaining charge time no matter what combination of the items I hooked up. I saw the standard "charging" memo with some combos, and the "fast charging" one too, with others. Can I assume that even though the phone might say it's fast charging, it ramps the speed/power level up and down as necessary due to the current state of charge, or heat or some other factors? Would it also possibly switch into fast-charging with more power if the phone was starting at a lower state of charge, or possibly cooler?Yes, I'll have to read the link above as it's probably covered there
"Fast Wireless Charging" is supported and working.
I have a RavPower 15w and 3 umdigi 15w qi wireless pads that all say wirelessly fast charging when connected. Needs an 18w QC2-3 charger for the input voltage ranges needed to work.
It is noticeably faster than a 10w qi pad and only slightly slower than QC 3.0 USB average charge.
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"Fast Wireless Charging" is supported and working.
I have a RavPower 15w and 3 umdigi 15w qi wireless pads that all say wirelessly fast charging when connected. Needs an 18w QC2-3 charger for the input voltage ranges needed to work.
It is noticeably faster than a 10w qi pad and only slightly slower than QC 3.0 USB average charge.
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Of the 2 Qi pads you mention, any preferences towards one or the other (or a different one altogether)? I have an Anker QC 3.0 charger I can connect up to it.
BTW.. I cannot locate a 15W Ravpower pad. What model is it? And is the Umdigi a model Q1?
andygold said:
Thanks! I noticed you do not have a G7 listed as a current phone in your signature. Is your answer above based upon your experience with Samsung phones and their charging system, or specifically with the G7 (or other QC 3.0 phones)?
I hadn't notice the charging speed on the lock screen, as I have the phone set to basically bypass it all the time (fingerprint, facial recognition, & geo-fence)...so I didn't even know it was listed there on the bottom. Thanks again...now I know it's there
Strange thing is I went through a bunch of permutations with cables (various generations), and charge blocks and Qi pads this morning, and with the phone starting at 93% charged, it made no difference in remaining charge time no matter what combination of the items I hooked up. I saw the standard "charging" memo with some combos, and the "fast charging" one too, with others. Can I assume that even though the phone might say it's fast charging, it ramps the speed/power level up and down as necessary due to the current state of charge, or heat or some other factors? Would it also possibly switch into fast-charging with more power if the phone was starting at a lower state of charge, or possibly cooler?Yes, I'll have to read the link above as it's probably covered there
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My pixel screen went bad and the charging port went bad also... Just got the g7 so I haven't changed my signature or updated my devices...
Samsung Fast charge is basically qc2 ... And standard USB A to C do not support the higher current that USB C to C does... I notice fastest charging with my pixel USB PD charger...
And yes you won't notice as much fast charging from the top 20 percent of the battery to prevent over charging...
for me, from 25% of charge, the fast charge advertisement says 1 hour and 20 minutes (charge fast???????).... if i use a normal charger (not fast), the time goes to 1 hour and 31 minutes. this phone has a charge fast but very low fast
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Of the 2 Qi pads you mention, any preferences towards one or the other (or a different one altogether)? I have an Anker QC 3.0 charger I can connect up to it.
BTW.. I cannot locate a 15W Ravpower pad. What model is it? And is the Umdigi a model Q1?
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I know it's hard from a specs perspective as most are only 75% efficient so the 10w might only be 7.5w and 15w is actually 10w, which is why LG customer services expressly states you must use a 15w QI charger for fast wireless charging. Another problem is the specs aren't always accurate and updated devices might still have old specs listed. I tried a bunch before I found a couple I liked. The mophie streampad+ also does fast wireless charging but is listed as 10w.
The RavPower is a standup charger I use in the office, the other UmDigi chargers I have scattered around the house and in the bedroom.
RavPower: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079C1QLCR
UmDigi: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DJ56LT5
Did a little charge test from 50 percent
Wireless charger =1h 40m
Stock iPhone charger =1h 14m
Both pixel USB C to C and stock fast charger =1h 2m
I'm in the market for a qi charger that can fast charge my Thinq g7. I see reports of needing 15W but not seeing many out there that have that spec.
I have seen a RavPower one posted here that is said to do it but the price is quite high for that model. Does anyone else have experience with fast charging the thinq g7 with a Qi charger?
I have Samsung Fast wireless charger. This present with S7. Fast charging battery of S7 Edge, S9+. But G7 didn't support fast wireless charging. And charging is slow. So you can buy what you want but charging with this phone will be slow.
I read this topic and wondering how G7 is going to wireless fast charge?
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Just thought I'd add to this - the charger that comes with the LG G7 ThinQ (Verizon) is labeled with outputs 9V/1.8A and 5V/1.8A. My old HTC 10 charger is labeled 12V/1.25A, 9V/1.7A, 5V/2.5A. I haven't tried it on the HTC 10's charger on a measuring device to see actual power delivery, but at least on the face of it, if it supports those higher voltages and/or amps, you should be able to get faster charging than with the charger out of the box.
On the other hand, faster charging may in part be why the HTC 10's battery lifetime is dismal, and not once have I thought "boy I wish my G7 would charge faster".
Anyone tried qc4.0 ?
According to some sites ThinQ is capable of 27W (9x3) charging. I therefore purchased a Xiaomi 65W charger which outputs 9x3 but the phone charges only with 15W (5x3) so wasted money.
Yes. I bought 3 different chargers and also a watt meter. When charging with screen on max amps is 1A and 6-8wattage. When screen is off it goes up to max 16watt. And it doesnt matter which charger i use.
80min for a full chsrge isnt that good. But think that lg g7 released in 2018?
Vivos IC00 something charges full in 20min. 4000mAh.
Im sick of "..reduced charging speed cause it can in a long term reduce battery......" who gives..? Then if you notice a different is gonna take 3 years and if still got same phone. Switch battery.
Look at Tesla batteries whos battery lost like 10 percent after 30000 km. I mean..come on
Im on 72% now and it says 45min to full.
A specialised site reported it would charge at 27W (9V x 3A) but this is simply not true. The best it can charge is 15W (5V x 3A). Thats it.
i'm back with a few more chargers to test, this time from baseus which i have to admit i've never tried before. they sent me the 45w charger/10000mah power bank as well as their 120w 3 port wall charger. the first thing that jumped out at me is the size of these things. even though they employ GaN they are larger than I'm used to. it is somewhat understandable on the 45w charger as it also doubles as a power bank, but i was really surprised at how big the 120w charger was. that said, performance on both of them were great and they feel really dense, so they don't appear to be wasting any space.
the 45w charger was the one i was intrigued the most by because of its versatility as a wall charger and a portable power bank. you can plug it in to use as a charger or charge the 10000mah battery, and both usb c ports can be used to charge the battery as well. baseus claims 45w max output on ac power or 30w max on portable power through either of the type c ports individually, or when used together 30w+15w or 15w+30w on ac power and 18w+18w on portable power. i tested it using my pixel 5 and a completely dead samsung chromebook plus and noticed consistently that the top port had a slightly lower voltage than the bottom, despite both being rated for the same. neither port delivered a full 45w on my testing. with the chromebook and the charger plugged in the top port maxed out at 2.35a/14.6v, with the bottom port delivering 2.35a/15v. plugging in a second device dropped the charging speed to 1.85a/8.7v and 1.9a8.8v for top/bottom. in powerbank mode the top/bottom gave 2.2a/11.7v and 2.2a/11.9v individually, 1.9a/8.8v and 1.9a/9v with a second device plugged in.
the 120w charger offers 3 ports, 2 usb c and 1 usb a. theoretical power output gets a bit complicated; the usb c ports can put out up to 100w individually, or 60w+60w when used together. either usb c port used with the a port will put out a max of 87w with the a port delivering 30w, and if you use all 3 together the top c port will put out 60w, with the bottom c and the a port putting out 30w each. in my testing i was able to maintain charging speeds of 1.85a/19.2v on the top port regardless of what the other ports were doing. on the bottom port the speed was similar, but dropped to 2.2a/12v once i had all 3 ports in use.
as i mentioned earlier these chargers are quite large and heavy. the 120w is noticeably heavier and larger than a 90w 3 port charger i recently tried out. obviously it delivers 33% more power and there is a lot to be said for that, but i think for most users this would be more of a wall solution versus a travel charger. the 45w charger is much larger than a few other 60w chargers i have, but again this baseus charger offers a fairly unique advantage of both plugging in and using portable power. while these chargers dont fall into the ultra-packable categories, they both offer value in the extras they can deliver. right now the 120w charger is available on amazon for $44.99 after clipping the on-page coupon, and the 45w for $32.99 after clipped coupon, and if you buy both it gives you an extra $5 off of each. as always these are not affiliate links; im not affiliated with any of these companies and dont receive any compensation for these reviews.
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I'm using my Xiaomi 55W wireless charger with the 120W supply that came with my Mi 10 Ultra. Works a treat.
So what actually is the FASTEST charger that can be safely used with the P5 apart from the supplied Google charger that comes with the P5 and the Google Pixel Stand ?
If a non UK forum member replies, remember I'm in the UK, so ideally I'd like one that I can source in the UK, but I'd still be interested in what others are using.
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So what actually is the FASTEST charger that can be safely used with the P5 apart from the supplied Google charger that comes with the P5 and the Google Pixel Stand ?
If a non UK forum member replies, remember I'm in the UK, so ideally I'd like one that I can source in the UK, but I'd still be interested in what others are using.
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As far as I'm aware, using a charger with more power than the supplied charger makes no difference. The device decides how it will draw power.
These high wattage chargers are mainly for laptops.
I bought this 45W charger few days ago, but with one usb-c and one usb-a port. First I bought variant with 2 usb-c ports, but it didn't work well, it only charged from the wall, but when tried to charge from battery, phone started to charge power bank instead of the power bank charging phone, so I returned it and got the variant with one usb-c port and with one usb-a port, because they didn't have option with two usb-c ports anymore. I actually love this charger, because you can use it for both, as wall charger and as power bank and that's awesome for traveling and it also have PD. But I don't think it's really 10000mAh power bank. I tried to charge my phone from power bank, the power bank was fully charged, and my Pixel 5 was 50% charged. I left it overnight and it charged my phone to 100%, but power bank has only 25% battery left (1 light on out of 4). I don't think 10000mAh power bank should last only half of a charge. I was thinking about ordering other charger and power bank, but I couldn't find any charger and power bank in one device other than that specific device from Baseus.
I recently set up Tasker to manage the battery charging levels on my OnePlus 9 Pro, for both wireless and USB charging.
See here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...harge-level-with-tasker.3668059/post-85552001
On a related subject, I wanted a cheap/fast wireless charger for overnight bedside use. Yes, OP has their fancy model, which is quite nice. But I wanted something more generic and a lot cheaper. Found this 15W Qi Iniu Wireless Charger for about CAD$20 on Amazon:
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It works very well on my OnePlus 9 Pro. My inline voltage/amperage meter measures about 1.5A at 12V, which gives 18W power input to the charger. At that rate, it would charge the phone from near zero to 100% in about four hours, plenty fast enough!
I use mine with an Anker QC 3.0 power supply. The original OnePlus adapter also works with it at the full 15-18W rate.
Please post car chargers with links, pics that work with P6P 30w max charge.
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Please post car chargers with links, pics that work with P6P 30w max charge.
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Any USB-C PD 30W charger should work. Check out Amazon. If you want you can get a PPS charger, but PPS is not necessary.
Please note the Pixel 6 only supports 22 watt fast charging.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071WYF9HP?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071WYF9HP?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
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Not a PPS charger and Anker apparently does not have one for cars.
Something like this would be slightly better and future proof:
https://www.amazon.com/VELOGK-Charger-Adaptive-Adapter-Charging/dp/B08TBQ6H2N/
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Not a PPS charger and Anker apparently does not have one for cars.
Something like this would be slightly better and future proof:
https://www.amazon.com/VELOGK-Charger-Adaptive-Adapter-Charging/dp/B08TBQ6H2N/
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works fine, charges fast
BTW, charging tests with the new 30w Google charger and the Google charger from my 2XL were almost identical anyway...if the phone only charges at 22W, then any charger over 22W is sufficient...
That's absolutely false. If you have some random Quick Charge or proprietary charger at 30W or higher, it will not charge at 22W. Might only charge at 10W, not even 15W or 18W.
My Warp Charge 30 bricks can only do 10W.
Charger must have at least PD support.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YY7KQZP/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_X2A31DX9F4R980FXB9V5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This one does have 30w but isn't PPS so don't think it'll actually hit the 22w since that's how Google's limited the charging.
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That's absolutely false. If you have some random Quick Charge or proprietary charger at 30W or higher, it will not charge at 22W. Might only charge at 10W, not even 15W or 18W.
My Warp Charge 30 bricks can only do 10W.
Charger must have at least PD support.
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To get the limited 22w charging that Google's put on the 6 Pro you do need PPS. The fastest PD will do is 18w.
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093BP4RM2 stuck to outside of my case.
It's not the prettiest solution, but seems to work well. No more cables to mess with. Just throw the phone on the pad and drive off. Probably not the fastest charger, but it's enough to run GPS and music, while still gaining charge, which is all I need.
Make sure the wireless charger supports the 15W Qi EPP (extended power profile) feature.
Otherwise you're stuck at 5W. Most no-name charging pads or cars with built-in wireless charging have been falling into this category but newer ones like the Tucson are 15W.
I'd like to know what the phone and Pixel Stand expect for 23W charging.
This Spigen is nice, name brand, high quality charger. It doesn't fit in one of my cars though, it's too short. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08PRZ815M/
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Not a PPS charger and Anker apparently does not have one for cars.
Something like this would be slightly better and future proof:
https://www.amazon.com/VELOGK-Charger-Adaptive-Adapter-Charging/dp/B08TBQ6H2N/
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Received mine yesterday and was pleasantly surprised it came with a long, braided Type-C cable. I didn't actually read the description. There was a $6 coupon so I jumped on it. Will try to test and see how much current it outputs later this evening.
Considering I was at 36% the 4,148A charge current is pretty good. The highest I've seen with a PPS wall charge was 4400+.
I would've gained more in 28 minutes but 25 of it had YouTube running. Don't worry I pay attention to the road. The screen off %/h is right up there with my PPS wal charger.
I use my OnePlus 9 Pro car charger for my pixel and it does great!
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I use my OnePlus 9 Pro car charger for my pixel and it does great!
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This one? That would be interesting if it really charges well for you because everyone else I've seen has had issues with OnePlus charges because it's not even Power Delivery. This one in particular is either the Warp Charge 5V=6A max or old slow 5V=2A charging.
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That's absolutely false. If you have some random Quick Charge or proprietary charger at 30W or higher, it will not charge at 22W. Might only charge at 10W, not even 15W or 18W.
My Warp Charge 30 bricks can only do 10W.
Charger must have at least PD support.
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Not to mention warp charge is completely propriety, requires specific circuitry in the phone and a USB lead with non standard wiring.
Is this good for pixel 6 charging because it's 5v-3amp, I have it already but just want to confirm if it is good enough and will not effect battery health in long run since it is 15w while charging.
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Planning to go for this if it is good enough or someone tried it.
.https://www.amazon.ae/UGREEN-Charger-Adapter-Charging-Compatible/dp/B094DFW7T7/ref=asc_df_B094DFW7T7/?tag=shoppingstd03-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=536270986798&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13302605630687776260&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1000010&hvtargid=pla-1428198677430&psc=1
one thing I suggest, is don't skimp out on a car charger. many years ago, I messed up a few phones using crappy car chargers. the Zus Smart Charger is the best car charger I've ever used. the quality is incredible. its half price in the US at $16.99 (they should pay me or something!) -
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it's not the fastest, it charges my 6Pro at like 1200mah or so...but the quality alone is worth it. I've been using it since 2017 and I've charged all my pixels and tablets with it.
this might be the best kept secret - just for the app, that anyone can use for free!
I just wanted to add;; their app is pretty cool, the car charger will show your Voltage level for your car battery and a ton of other things. Their app also connects to any OBD-II adapter via bluetooth and you can have a ton of cool telemetry appear on your phone (like revs, speed, engine temps etc , for those who like that sorta thing). and it will help you find your parked car if you forget where you parked ha! last year they were sending out free OBD_II adapters (but you can use any) and with their free app that anybody can use, you can use it to log your drives by mileage and a ton of other features. it's pretty slick !!
but if you want a crazy fast car charger, the anker that someone posted above is excellent - but in the car, which is usually really hot, I don't want anything fast charging. keeping things cool is what I'm all about//