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Hello guys!
I've just bought a Nexus 7 to integrate in my car dashboard. Actually I didnt had so much knowledge about it before I bought it, (I only wanted the best and I hate apple so) but I didnt thought it was junk. And that's the only thing I wanted, a non junk tablet that could play music and works as a navigator without hardware-buttons.
My old stupid Iphone 4s worked perfectly for playing and streaming sound from spotify trough a regular usb cable to my headunit, so I didnt even reflect that googles new flagship wouldnt be able to do this simple task. But it seems like it doesnt work..
I've searched for answeres but the only thing I can find is to buy a usb DAC that converts the digital audio to analog audio but then I lose the whole damn point. I want digital audio in to my headunit. And my stupid old Iphone do it great, why the **** can't google flagship do it? Feels like I have bought a extra thin rock from the stone-age.
Please tell me I'm wrong and this is possible somehow. Otherwise I gotta throw this stupid f***** sh*t tablet in the garbage as fast as ******* possibly..
Sorry for my rage.. I just feel so fooled.. I've just bought a 400$ angry birds game. :silly:
You have a couple of options:
1. Use headphone output jack from your Nexus. Hopefully your car audio headunit has an auxiliary input.
2. Bluetooth! This is what I use in my car. If your car audio headunit has bluetooth built-in, then you don't need any cables at all. Just pair your car audio to your Nexus and start playing music! If your car stereo does not have bluetooth, then you need to purchase a bluetooth car kit. These connect to an auxiliary input on your car stereo (just like #1 above). There are bluetooth kits that also stream through an FM modulator, but that should be used as a last resort as sound quality suffers materially.
I installed an Alpine bluetooth car kit and integrated it with my factory car stereo system in a 2005 Honda Accord. Since I did not get the factory CD Changer option, I had that one input open to use with the Alpine Bluetooth. I'd post a link to my YouTube video showing this, but I'm now allowed to post links yet since I'm new to this forum.
The two options listed above are the only ones I'm aware of. I'd love to hear from others if there are other options. The only drawback to both options is that you use the DAC built in the Nexus, you don't get to pass through to a better quality external DAC. The only way around that is a Slimport adapter which uses HDMI. I don't know of any car audio units that have HDMI inputs.
What you want is achievable. Nexus 7 2012 works best with Timur Kernel however Nexus 7 2013 with an AOSP build or stock with Elemental X kernel can have a USB DAC with an OTG Y cable that will simultaneously charge.
If you have Cyanogenmod you may need glitch kernel which does the same thing.
I have a HiFiMeDIY DAC and OTG Y cable (at home) but no reason I couldn't run the same thing in my car with a car charger.
John
I use a fiio e7 on USB and it works perfectly on cm or carbon, no extra apps or kernel required. By the way, otg works fine with Franco kernel on either Rom and hotswapping is supported. I have not yet found another rom that supports it, but I have been using just carbon for quite a while now.
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Some car head decks support android USB then it would charge and do audio. Just make sure it's android compatible.
Good, then we shall fight in the shade!
dobbs3x said:
Some car head decks support android USB then it would charge and do audio. Just make sure it's android compatible.
Good, then we shall fight in the shade!
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Well i can tell u most of those android compatible r meant can be connect n read as a mass storage,but not as ios.
Unless someone can make a custom rom like the one for 2012 model.
Has anyone tried USB audio on 4.4 yet? I recall reading they were making some changes to USB devices (may of just been mounting drives though).
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Still no USB-OTG in kitkat
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Has anyone tried USB audio on 4.4 yet? I recall reading they were making some changes to USB devices (may of just been mounting drives though).
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Just tried it. USB-OTG does not work on stock, unrooted 4.4. Neither flash drives nor USB Audio
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Just tried it. USB-OTG does not work on stock, unrooted 4.4. Neither flash drives nor USB Audio
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When u guys saying otg works dor aosp or some kernel ,does that mean it works with an otg y cable aswell? Like reading files from flash n keep it charge while with flash drive on?
Sorry for the thread jack op.
U and i r on the same boat,i am doing a car mount too.
I am doing a 4g lte one.
I don't have a car, I have a scooter.
Problem fixed !
So it sounds like if I have the stock rom, with the elemental X, I can do USB audio? Do I need some kind of audio manager to specify where to send the output, or would the USB dac automatically disable the on-board headphone jack?
tried PAC rom 4.3 with elemental X 1.8
no go for the DAC audio.
sound is mute no matter what i do.
katsooba said:
tried PAC rom 4.3 with elemental X 1.8
no go for the DAC audio.
sound is mute no matter what i do.
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so no-go on the PAC rom, but stock should work?
hagensieker said:
What you want is achievable. Nexus 7 2012 works best with Timur Kernel however Nexus 7 2013 with an AOSP build or stock with Elemental X kernel can have a USB DAC with an OTG Y cable that will simultaneously charge.
If you have Cyanogenmod you may need glitch kernel which does the same thing.
I have a HiFiMeDIY DAC and OTG Y cable (at home) but no reason I couldn't run the same thing in my car with a car charger.
John
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I bought the HifiMeDIY DAC and am using stock 4.4.2 w/ Elemental X Kernal. I don't get any sound out of the dac. What did you have to do to enable the USB sound instead of built-in speakers?
The Nexus 7 is way better than you described it.
You have lots of options for car audio, and they all have downsides, but just to name a few:
Bluetooth (if your car has a bluetooth receiver)
Auxiliary input (if your car has one)
Slimport (you'd need an hdmi-audio converter, but it would sound great)
Wi-Fi direct (not very common for cars, though)
bmccoy11 said:
The Nexus 7 is way better than you described it.
You have lots of options for car audio, and they all have downsides, but just to name a few:
Bluetooth (if your car has a bluetooth receiver)
Auxiliary input (if your car has one)
Slimport (you'd need an hdmi-audio converter, but it would sound great)
Wi-Fi direct (not very common for cars, though)
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Bluetooth (if your car has a bluetooth receiver) - I need the bluethooth to connect to other things, like an odb adapter and so on. Edit: The bluethooth connection doesnt always connect automatic whit the cars headunit either so that's another problem.
Auxiliary input (if your car has one) - The aux output aint that great, not good enough for my 3500$ audio system in my car.
Slimport (you'd need an hdmi-audio converter, but it would sound great) - Yes the problem is that I need to convert the audio to analoge. It needs a converter and it still doesnt give my headunit digital audio.
Wi-Fi direct (not very common for cars, though)- I use wifi to get my cars 4g connection to the Nexus 7
So in my case. This is just a really expensive angry birds game (Without sound)!
Can anyone who owns the G3 confirm that USB Audio Out (over an OTG cable) works through a DAC? I can't seem to find any information that confirms or discounts that this works.
Thanks!
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Can anyone who owns the G3 confirm that USB Audio Out (over an OTG cable) works through a DAC? I can't seem to find any information that confirms or discounts that this works.
Thanks!
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It does work with my Fiio E17. Just tried it today after almost buying an app that was supposed to do so. My only complaint is that the DAC seems to be charging while connected to the G3.
jesadac said:
It does work with my Fiio E17. Just tried it today after almost buying an app that was supposed to do so.
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Thanks, Jesadac! That's great news... I was hoping this was the case, as I believe the G2 also supported it.
I assume you're referring to the USB Audio Player Pro app? It truly doesn't replace the native ability to have a clean digital audio out signal for all sounds out of the phone.
I have the Fiio E18 and a friend has the VZW G3. We just tested the combo and it seems to work fine.
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Can anyone who owns the G3 confirm that USB Audio Out (over an OTG cable) works through a DAC? I can't seem to find any information that confirms or discounts that this works.
Thanks!
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Just bought the new Cayin C5 DAC/Amp. My TMo LG G3 does not put audio out though the amp when connected via OTG. It registers it's connected I'm guessing because all audio is no longer played through the phone. Plugged into my friends Note 4 and it worked right away. Is this is G3 problem? We're both on Lollipop.
I know this is an old thread... but do I still need USB Audio Player Pro to get USB DAC to work? I thought Android 5.0+ brings USB audio, and right now my Beyerdynamic A100 doesn't work by "simply" plugging it in... however I do get about half second of audio and quits.
I go on LG G3 with app USB Audio Player PRO and HibyMusic app, my DAC is Hegel HD2 and DragonFly RED. Logitech USB headphones works too. with China OTG cable.
I can confirm Spotify and youtube doesn't play audio through usb (android 5.1.1), and it still mutes integrated speaker when connected:silly:. Must have usb-player i guess.
I am just curious if any of you have tried ANY USB (Type C or other via OTG) headphones or earphones on our Honor 8 Pro.
I am sure it would work. But just curious. I am thinknig of getting the Mi Noise cancelling USB Type C earphones.
http://www.mi.com/in/earphonetype-c/
IDK
I'm in the same situation- I want to buy the usb c headphones but I'm not sure if they're compatible, especially since the phone already comes with a 3.5 mm headphone jack.
I tried. They work GREAT!
NHS2008 said:
I tried. They work GREAT!
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Better than the headphone Jack?!
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Better than the headphone Jack?!
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Let's put it this way. If you get the same model of headphones. One with a headphone jack and one with usb. Then the USB one will sound better. Because USB gives you direct digital signal unlike the downsampled analog signal. But if you use Neutron music player with normal headphones you might get close to the usb audio quality.
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Let's put it this way. If you get the same model of headphones. One with a headphone jack and one with usb. Then the USB one will sound better. Because USB gives you direct digital signal unlike the downsampled analog signal. But if you use Neutron music player with normal headphones you might get close to the usb audio quality.
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Got it, thanks
can Xiaomi Noise Cancellation In-ear Earphones | Type-C support honor 8 pro?
P.K.Shivaram said:
can Xiaomi Noise Cancellation In-ear Earphones | Type-C support honor 8 pro?
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YES.
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YES.
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Thanks man, i am going to buy that, so that i asked.
I tried le-eco type-c earphones with h8p and for me mic doesn't worked. You can only listen through type-c earphones.
So I've been using my tablet in the car to watch Netflix and Amazon Prime videos during various appointments for my wife and kids. Has worked great with headphones, but figured it would be even better with my car's audio system. So I ordered a decent quality aux cable off Amazon, a 2-pack actually, but it doesn't work! I get really heavy static with the audio barely audible in the background. It also only plays out of the left channel. Tried the other cable with the same result. Plugged that cable into my Galaxy S9 and it worked perfectly.
I've searched around for the past half hour with no luck. Seems some fixed similar issues with other Samsung devices by turning on the UHQ upscaler, or by holding Vol+ while cycling the power, but neither worked for me.
Any thoughts?
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So I've been using my tablet in the car to watch Netflix and Amazon Prime videos during various appointments for my wife and kids. Has worked great with headphones, but figured it would be even better with my car's audio system. So I ordered a decent quality aux cable off Amazon, a 2-pack actually, but it doesn't work! I get really heavy static with the audio barely audible in the background. It also only plays out of the left channel. Tried the other cable with the same result. Plugged that cable into my Galaxy S9 and it worked perfectly.
I've searched around for the past half hour with no luck. Seems some fixed similar issues with other Samsung devices by turning on the UHQ upscaler, or by holding Vol+ while cycling the power, but neither worked for me.
Any thoughts?
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Sounds like a faulty jack have you tried twisting the jack ? As sometimes that clears the static ? if not then you will need to get your Tab S4 replaced via Samsung!
I did rotate the plug, but it didn't resolve the issue. I don't think the jack is faulty, though, since headphones work perfectly. Thank you for your response, though.
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I did rotate the plug, but it didn't resolve the issue. I don't think the jack is faulty, though, since headphones work perfectly. Thank you for your response, though.
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interesting have you counted the rings on the headphone and your car aux jack ? Do they line up ??? Just a thought!
I haven't, but I actually have a 3-ring adapter. I'll give that a try, thanks for the idea!
I may be totally off but...
I have been using an MP3 player (Archos Jukebox Recorder) in my car for years. Recently I thought to go modern and downloaded some music on my Samsung A3 (2017) phone. Connected the cable... and all I got was a lot of static noise with hardly audible (and bearable) music.
Of course, the MP3 player using the same cable still plays ok. Anything plugged into the A3 also plays fine.
I haven't yet sorted out what could have been the problem but it sounds awfully like yours.
Sure does!
sciurius said:
I may be totally off but...
I have been using an MP3 player (Archos Jukebox Recorder) in my car for years. Recently I thought to go modern and downloaded some music on my Samsung A3 (2017) phone. Connected the cable... and all I got was a lot of static noise with hardly audible (and bearable) music.
Of course, the MP3 player using the same cable still plays ok. Anything plugged into the A3 also plays fine.
I haven't yet sorted out what could have been the problem but it sounds awfully like yours.
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What kind of headunit have you got installed ? is it factory or Custom?
N1NJATH3ORY said:
What kind of headunit have you got installed ? is it factory or Custom?
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Mine is a 2016 Yukon with factory audio.
N1NJATH3ORY said:
What kind of headunit have you got installed ? is it factory or Custom?
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I have a Prius that has a built-in system. I connect using a vanilla cable with 3.5mm jack stereo connectors.
sciurius said:
I have a Prius that has a built-in system. I connect using a vanilla cable with 3.5mm jack stereo connectors.
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Cables make a huge difference getting a cheaper cable often out preforms the pricey one! (That's no joke) Disconnecting the FM/AM radio cable gets rid of the static (Here in the UK that has done trick in the past) Also can you try switching over the plugs on the back of your head unit right into left, and left into right. Vice versa see if that fix it ?
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interesting have you counted the rings on the headphone and your car aux jack ? Do they line up ??? Just a thought!
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The 3-ring adapter didn't fix it. Bummed... I was hopeful.
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Cables make a huge difference ...
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Switched the cable and the static seems gone... Strange that the Archos didn't have this problem. But I needed to increase the volume to a surprisingly high level[*] to get a decent sound.
[*] Radio plays on 15-20, CD 30-40, Archos 30-40, A3 way beyond 50.
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The 3-ring adapter didn't fix it. Bummed... I was hopeful.
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Try different cable!
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Got an iPad Pro instead, lol.
Has anyone managed to find a USB C to 3.5mm Headphone and Charger Adapter 2in1 for the Pixel 6 Pro. The few I have tried so far only at best will work the audio port but none will charge. Hoping to find one that does both for when driving to be able to charge and listen to music with the 3,5 mm headphone attached to my car radio input. Adapters similar to the attached images that work would be ideal.
Thanks
Unfortunately, the only ones I've seen that reputably work for Power Delivery phones are effectively "hubs", like Anker USB C Hub, PowerExpand 11-in-1 USB C Hub Adapter, with [email protected] HDMI and DP, 100W Power Delivery, USB-C and 3 USB-A Data Ports, 1 Gbps Ethernet, 3.5mm Audio, microSD and SD Card Reader (sold out on Anker's site PowerExpand 11-in-1 USB-C PD Hub). They make other hubs, but I don't see any others of theirs that have a 3.5mm headphone port.
I too, wouldn't mind a more compact and cheaper solution, but I no longer really care about 3.5mm headphone jacks and would be happy with a similar adapter with two USB-C ports - one for USB-C headphones and the other for charging. I may have seen some like that too but not sure as to their reputation, and overall it's not that important to me.
Might be a logic glitch where it assumes that having a usb "device" plugged in means that the phone needs to supply the power rather than receive it.
Does your car radio really not have bluetooth?
And since you are in a car, how about a Qi charger pad?
you would need
Fladnag99 said:
Has anyone managed to find a USB C to 3.5mm Headphone and Charger Adapter 2in1 for the Pixel 6 Pro. The few I have tried so far only at best will work the audio port but none will charge. Hoping to find one that does both for when driving to be able to charge and listen to music with the 3,5 mm headphone attached to my car radio input. Adapters similar to the attached images that work would be ideal.
Thanks
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just search usb c to audio charger
and make sure its compatible with a samsung device as they require a DAC in the usb like the google does
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Might be a logic glitch where it assumes that having a usb "device" plugged in means that the phone needs to supply the power rather than receive it.
Does your car radio really not have bluetooth?
And since you are in a car, how about a Qi charger pad?
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Unfortunaetly it doesnt have bluetooth and since I use the phone for navigation while driveing the Qi charger woldnt really serve a purpose.
Is there a difference between the technology in a pixel 4a5g and the Pixel 6 pro. A device like the first picture I showed works fine in the pixel 4a5g but only does audio and no charging for the Pixel 6 pro
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Is there a difference between the technology in a pixel 4a5g and the Pixel 6 pro. A device like the first picture I showed works fine in the pixel 4a5g but only does audio and no charging for the Pixel 6 pro
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Jup, it's called Tensor.
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Unfortunaetly it doesnt have bluetooth and since I use the phone for navigation while driveing the Qi charger woldnt really serve a purpose.
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I use a magnetic Qi charger on my dashboard. It works great and provide plenty of power to charge under heavy use. Not as elegant as a proper split USB adapter, but should at least work if you can't find one.
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Might be a logic glitch where it assumes that having a usb "device" plugged in means that the phone needs to supply the power rather than receive it.
Does your car radio really not have bluetooth?
And since you are in a car, how about a Qi charger pad?
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Why would he want to use Bluetooth? There's still reason not to. Not many car stereos support the higher quality Bluetooth streaming codecs. Not even AAC, I know mine doesn't. SBC is very unusable.
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Why would he want to use Bluetooth? There's still reason not to. Not many car stereos support the higher quality Bluetooth streaming codecs. Not even AAC, I know mine doesn't. SBC is very unusable.
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Can't wait to find a car with audiophile speakers to make a difference
Izy said:
Can't wait to find a car with audiophile speakers to make a difference
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I drive a Toyota Corolla it doesn't have audiophile speakers and I can tell the difference it is night and day even when streaming Amazon music although it's less of a difference there but if you're listening to compressed music on YouTube music there is a difference maybe you should go get your hearing checked
i mean youtube music starts at 48kbps aac to 256kbps
amazon songs start at up to 867kbps and over 3k kbps peak for premium
unironically searched it up someone made a patch that enables SBC to go up to its maximum bitrate of 512kb
stereo that makes it onpar/better with aptx and works sending to older devices like car stereos
he even pushed it to google 2 years ago buts its still processing
Android Patch Brings Bluetooth SBC Codec Audio Quality on-par with aptX - CNX Software
Android patch improves Bluetooth SBC codec audio quality on all existing devices, allegedly making it as good as the high quality aptX HD codec
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https://android-review.googlesource.com/c/platform/packages/apps/Bluetooth/+/759258/1
its in custom roms like RR etc shame its not implemented in stock still
You should look into a Bluetooth DAC. Yes it's another thing to charge but for me it's the best of both worlds, quality wired sound yet not tethered to the phone or whatever device. I have a FiiO BTR3K. It's super small, I connect it to a belt loop, and it's got 10 hours of battery life. And yes, you could wire charge your phone while listening.
FiiO BTR3K Hi-Res Bluetooth 5.0 Receiver/Headphone Amp
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Izy said:
i mean youtube music starts at 48kbps aac to 256kbps
amazon songs start at up to 867kbps and over 3k kbps peak for premium
unironically searched it up someone made a patch that enables SBC to go up to its maximum bitrate of 512kb
stereo that makes it onpar/better with aptx and works sending to older devices like car stereos
he even pushed it to google 2 years ago buts its still processing
Android Patch Brings Bluetooth SBC Codec Audio Quality on-par with aptX - CNX Software
Android patch improves Bluetooth SBC codec audio quality on all existing devices, allegedly making it as good as the high quality aptX HD codec
www.cnx-software.com
https://android-review.googlesource.com/c/platform/packages/apps/Bluetooth/+/759258/1
its in custom roms like RR etc shame its not implemented in stock still
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I feel like there will still be some degradation in the signal because it is still transcoding a lossy codec to another lossy codec. It's something I'll try when I'm connected to my home stereo.
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Has anyone managed to find a USB C to 3.5mm Headphone and Charger Adapter 2in1 for the Pixel 6 Pro. The few I have tried so far only at best will work the audio port but none will charge. Hoping to find one that does both for when driving to be able to charge and listen to music with the 3,5 mm headphone attached to my car radio input. Adapters similar to the attached images that work would be ideal.
Thanks
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I use this and it works great.
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I use this and it works great.
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Are you saying this worked great for the new Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro's?
Anyone who tells you they can tell the difference between bluetooth and {insert whateverthefeckhere} when competing with engine, road, and wind noise is absolutely full of sh**. Your ears are not that sensitive.
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since I use the phone for navigation while driveing the Qi charger woldnt really serve a purpose
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I don't understand this logic. The phone doesn't turn off when you use Qi. It still works. If its about how the phone is mounted, either buy a holder with a Qi pad in it, or stick a Qi pad at the back of the holder.
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Anyone who tells you they can tell the difference between bluetooth and {insert whateverthefeckhere} when competing with engine, road, and wind noise is absolutely full of sh**. Your ears are not that sensitive.
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Go get your hearing checked then because there is a difference. It's less of a difference when using tidal or Amazon music but when using YouTube music or Spotify etc it's staggering.
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Go get your hearing checked then because there is a difference. It's less of a difference when using tidal or Amazon music but when using YouTube music or Spotify etc it's staggering.
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My hearing is perfect. Yours is not as acute as you believe it to be.