With auto-brightness turned off and brightness turned up all the way, I am seeing the brightness go down when some apps are launched and turn back up when the app is closed. I noticed this today when launching GoChat and then also saw it when launching the stock jellybean web browser. I am not sure but I think this has only been happening since the last software update (T-Mobile USA).
I wonder if others are noticing this.
gruuvin said:
With auto-brightness turned off and brightness turned up all the way, I am seeing the brightness go down when some apps are launched and turn back up when the app is closed. I noticed this today when launching GoChat and then also saw it when launching the stock jellybean web browser. I am not sure but I think this has only been happening since the last software update (T-Mobile USA).
I wonder if others are noticing this.
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Saw the same thing when I launched camera app, I am on the latest update.
One difference is that I'm on auto bright and the brightness never came back
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gruuvin said:
With auto-brightness turned off and brightness turned up all the way, I am seeing the brightness go down when some apps are launched and turn back up when the app is closed. I noticed this today when launching GoChat and then also saw it when launching the stock jellybean web browser. I am not sure but I think this has only been happening since the last software update (T-Mobile USA).
I wonder if others are noticing this.
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From DisplayMate:
Since the display often uses 50 percent or more of the total Smartphone power, various display power management schemes are frequently used. The Galaxy S4 uses one innovative approach to overcome this – when Automatic Brightness is turned on, the Peak Brightness becomes significantly brighter in high ambient lighting than is possible with Manual Brightness, up to as high as 475 cd/m2, which is 34 percent higher than is possible with Manual Brightness. This is done so that users can’t permanently set the brightness to very high values, which would run down the battery quickly.From Samsung:
Samsung Adapt Display: The Galaxy S4 "learns" what you are viewing and adjusts the display's brightness accordingly. If the phone senses you are reading an article, for example, it will illuminate from a more muted brightness.
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From DisplayMate:
Since the display often uses 50 percent or more of the total Smartphone power, various display power management schemes are frequently used. The Galaxy S4 uses one innovative approach to overcome this – when Automatic Brightness is turned on, the Peak Brightness becomes significantly brighter in high ambient lighting than is possible with Manual Brightness, up to as high as 475 cd/m2, which is 34 percent higher than is possible with Manual Brightness. This is done so that users can’t permanently set the brightness to very high values, which would run down the battery quickly.From Samsung:
Samsung Adapt Display: The Galaxy S4 "learns" what you are viewing and adjusts the display's brightness accordingly. If the phone senses you are reading an article, for example, it will illuminate from a more muted brightness.
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Well, I have auto-brightness, auto adjust screen tone and power saver ALL TURNED OFF, but this 'feature' persists... and as I said, this is not just during web browsing, this is also during messaging with a 3rd party app, namely GoChat, with black background theme.... this is just not a smart feature.
maybe this is taken care of in the new update. i haven't unpacked it just yet. hoping to do that over the weekend or maybe even tonight.
gruuvin said:
this 'feature' persists.
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What you're describing sounds like how Adapt Display is supposed to work. Does the display act any differently when you enable Adapt Display?
gruuvin said:
Well, I have auto-brightness, auto adjust screen tone and power saver ALL TURNED OFF, but this 'feature' persists... and as I said, this is not just during web browsing, this is also during messaging with a 3rd party app, namely GoChat, with black background theme.... this is just not a smart feature.
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I have the same issue. Turned everything off completely and it still happens. I posted about a week ago and some people were having the same issue.
Some people said it was adapt display on, but I have it off. Once I switched to.the CM10.1 the issue went away. I switched back to wicked Rom and I'm still getting the same problem.
Maybe a dev will eventually figure it out while building a Rom
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Actionx1 said:
I have the same issue. Turned everything off completely and it still happens. I posted about a week ago and some people were having the same issue.
Some people said it was adapt display on, but I have it off. Once I switched to.the CM10.1 the issue went away. I switched back to wicked Rom and I'm still getting the same problem.
Maybe a dev will eventually figure it out while building a Rom
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It seems like this is a feature that cannot be disabled by the end user. This is from Anandtech's review
"On the brightness front, the SGS4 includes dynamic contrast functions that cannot be disabled and change as a function of what is being displayed. There's an "auto adjust screen tone" checkbox under display but don't let that fool you, that doesn't disable dynamic contrast, just white point."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6914/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/8
If it really annoys you, you can always try rooting it and install CM10. I'll be a drastic change but at least you wont have to deal with Samsung's bloat
I have auto dimness unchecked, and whenever the brightness is set to over 55%, after unlocking the phone it always auto dims byitself.
Is this normal? no other phone does this. Can this be bypassed somehow? It's jarring when you unlock and see a bright vibrant screen and all of a sudden it dims like 10% or so after 5 seconds.
Phone auto dims when it starts to heat up regardless of your settings.
Otherwise it shouldn't as long as it's not set to auto brightness.
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Phone auto dims when it starts to heat up regardless of your settings.
Otherwise it shouldn't as long as it's not set to auto brightness.
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Ok, but when the phone hasn't been used in 30 minutes, and not "hot" at all, this still happens. This also happened with the G3 as well.
Is there a way to turn this off? This post has over 100 views, can everyone please comment if their screen does the same thing? Are there any solutions?
What carrier/model do you have?
I just tried this on mine, Verizon, 611A software.
With Auto Brightness disabled, set to 40%, I powered off, turned it on, then unlocked. The brightness did not change. Then set it to 100% brightness (Auto still disabled), and did the same thing. Again, the brightness did not change.
I have, however, seen the screen brightness reduced when I'm using Auto Brightness. If I turned it off in a bright area, then unlock it in a dim area, the screen will be bright for a moment, then will turn itself down, presumably based on evaluating the current ambient brightness.
RedOCtobyr said:
What carrier/model do you have?
I just tried this on mine, Verizon, 611A software.
With Auto Brightness disabled, set to 40%, I powered off, turned it on, then unlocked. The brightness did not change. Then set it to 100% brightness (Auto still disabled), and did the same thing. Again, the brightness did not change.
I have, however, seen the screen brightness reduced when I'm using Auto Brightness. If I turned it off in a bright area, then unlock it in a dim area, the screen will be bright for a moment, then will turn itself down, presumably based on evaluating the current ambient brightness.
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auto brightness is always off. It's the AT&T non rooted stock version. I just tuned brightness to 70%, powered off, powered on, and after unlocking and opening chrome it auto dimmed within 5 seconds.
Does it do it if you don't open Chrome?
I've seen apps make their own brightness adjustments (like a camera app that maxes out the screen brightness when it starts up). I want to say that Chrome (on my last phone) is one of them. Alternately, turn it on, unlock, wait 15 seconds, THEN start Chrome. If it still happens right after Chrome loads, then it's a Chrome phenomenon, not a just-turned-on phenomenon., and at least you can isolate what to chase down.
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Does it do it if you don't open Chrome?
I've seen apps make their own brightness adjustments (like a camera app that maxes out the screen brightness when it starts up). I want to say that Chrome (on my last phone) is one of them. Alternately, turn it on, unlock, wait 15 seconds, THEN start Chrome. If it still happens right after Chrome loads, then it's a Chrome phenomenon, not a just-turned-on phenomenon., and at least you can isolate what to chase down.
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Yes it dims even if I don't use chrome. No matter whats on the screen it dims a little after 5 seconds.
TheNamelessMan said:
I have auto dimness unchecked, and whenever the brightness is set to over 55%, after unlocking the phone it always auto dims byitself.
Is this normal? no other phone does this. Can this be bypassed somehow? It's jarring when you unlock and see a bright vibrant screen and all of a sudden it dims like 10% or so after 5 seconds.
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Download LUX (couple of bucks) set it to manual, 100% brightness on all LUX setting areas and it will bypass LG's lame attempt to hide the fact that they can't make a phone that doesn't suffer severe battery drain and overheating.
Your problem is called High Tempurate Thermal Mitigation (throttling). I depise it but with LUX, I tell the phone what is acceptable to me, not the other way around.
If I wanted to be dictated to like a submissive I'd just get an iphone.
I don't doubt that excess temps can cause the phone to adjust its behavior. But that quickly after turning the screen on? That seems really fast for something to go over-temperature, and for a sensor to also detect it that quickly. You may be 100% right, it's just not something I'd expect to happen that quickly.
This is a serious suggestion, despite how it may sound What if you put the phone in the fridge for 15 minutes or so, then do the same test? Does the screen still dim after 5 seconds? Depending on the humidity level, the phone could start to condense after coming out of a cold environment, so use your best judgement.
For a "safer" test, hold it in front of an air conditioner for a few minutes, with the screen off. Then, still at the A/C, turn the screen on, and see if it immediately dims.
If it suddenly runs for a while before dimming, then I'd agree it's likely temperature-related. If it still behaves the same way, then perhaps it's a different cause.
Either way, Lux sounds like a nice addition to these phones, from everything I've read. I've just been too cheap to try it yet But the rather coarse auto-brightness from LG has me curious.
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Ok, but when the phone hasn't been used in 30 minutes, and not "hot" at all, this still happens. This also happened with the G3 as well.
Is there a way to turn this off? This post has over 100 views, can everyone please comment if their screen does the same thing? Are there any solutions?
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Have you tried the cool-down suggestions (fridge, A/C,) ?
Try installing ThermoCF to monitor the battery temperature. I find that when used for GPS (mounted on windshield) the screen will dim with direct sunlight. The temperature is in excess of 120 °F when this happens.
I just left the G4 screen on 50% brightness for about 5 minutes and the temperature remained 98 °F (this is on a wireless charger, next to a warm laptop fan exhaust). I switched to 100% brightness and the battery temperature increased to 100 °F over the next five minutes but no dimming has occurred. After a few more minutes the temperature dropped to 99 °F with the screen remaining at 100% brightness.
Different from your problem but: I turned on the developer options and set the screen to "always-on when charging" and have noticed that the screen dims after some amount of time (I haven't timed, maybe 15 minutes or so). I ended up here because I was looking for a way to change that time and may download the LUX app to do it.
Nice to know I am not the only one having this problem. I use my phone to play Ingress and sucks the battery dry faster than anything. The screen kept going dim as I was charging.
I also have this same issue on my G5. I've tried the Lux, free version, and it still dimmed on its own. I wonder if the paid version will help out my situation?
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I like the auto-dim, and my phone seems to accept manual "guidance" as to how I prefer the auto-dim to work.
What I mean is that I can manually bump up the brightness slider (while auto-dim is checked/enabled), and the phone will auto-dim using the brighter setting. Or, I can bump the brightness slider down, and auto-dim will remember that and adjust the brightness.
So it's like you can control the baseline setting for auto-dim by using the brightness slider with auto-dim enabled, and then the phone will auto adjust from that baseline. I play ingress and during the day I bump up the slider, but during the night play I'll decrease the slider and still enjoy auto dim both ways, and preserve the most battery that way.
Aint looked to see if g4 has got it. I know g3 you go into hidden menu. And turn the thermal mitigations on and it stopped the throttle down. Lg has an insanley low throttle down temp.
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Aint looked to see if g4 has got it. I know g3 you go into hidden menu. And turn the thermal mitigations on and it stopped the throttle down. Lg has an insanley low throttle down temp.
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Under what setting is it on the G3 so I can check the G5?
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Under what setting is it on the G3 so I can check the G5?
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On the g3 and g4 its under main hiden menu. I use shortcutmaster to get to them all. But the g4 the options not there. Im not sure i dont know anything about the g5. Im not interested in it at all. I am selling my g4. So i can get another g3.
Now i know theres an app 3ctoolbox. And in cpu settings you can modify the unclock temps i dont know if it does the screen.
So, the hidden menu in Marshmallow, here it is folks. Where would I be able to find the option to turn off screen dim do to thermal mitigation? Anyone have any ideas?
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Mine also started to auto dim with auto brightness off. I have the H812 from Bell . I'm sure that on mine it's the proximity light sensor that is faulty or in the software. Because when i turn on the phone while blocking completely the proximity sensor it doesn't dim anymore. (knock knock doesn't work while sensor is blocked) but problem comes back if i wake up the phone without blocking the sensor. I have tried it many times and it's the same thing over and over.
Calibration in the hidden menu doesn't fix it, Lux and many other brightness apps iv'e tried don't fix the problem lol
I also use lux with cf.lumen
Lux will manage the auto brightness as per your preferences because i found the stock LG screen was about 15% lower than id like in all environments.
Cf.lumen actually changes the colour of the display rather than applying a dumb screen filter on top for night viewing.
The only thing Lux does for me is dim the screen twice since the phone already dims by itself 3-4 seconds after the screen is turned on. I can guaranty it's not an overheating problem, even after 30 minutes in the fridge it does it. I'm tempted to have the proximity sensor changed but will most likely wait for LG to release 6.0.1 to see if it will fix it.
Nougat 7.0 is days away and still no 6.0.1 MM for the G4. Pardon my language but LG really sucks . This is my first and last LG phone
I've seen a couple posts about delays with adaptive brightness, but this is a different item. I'm seeing that the adaptive brightness alters the brightness a little too dramatically. In a somewhat dark room (not pitch black) the brightness will be at absolute minimum even when the brightness is about 1/3 up on the slider. In a moderately bright room that same brightness setting will be near maximum.
Does anyone else notice this as an issue? I'm just wondering if it's normal (ie, software calibration issue) or if the brightness sensor might not be seated correctly.
It's normal. Or at least it sounds like it is working the same way mine is. And yes, IMO it is a little too sensitive. The Lux app works beautifully if you want an alternative. Also, the goog is known for tweaking this feature over time with updates.
I've noticed this too. The biggest thing for me is walking down the street at dusk (so not dark out yet) I can't read the screen as it turns it all the way down, then, when I walk under a street light, it turns it all the way up to full! It's one extreme or the other, there seems to be no middle ground.
In other words "adaptive brightness has mind of its own!"
This is why I have always kept this setting off. The brightness just changing on its own always annoyed me.
When it works properly (and it should) for ones uses, it's great, it's automatic, what's not to like? It's a pita to always have to change brightness manually just to see a phone display depending on ambient lighting which varies immensely for many users.
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When it works properly (and it should) for ones uses, it's great, it's automatic, what's not to like? It's a pita to always have to change brightness manually just to see a phone display depending on ambient lighting which varies immensely for many users.
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I agree. I have it set to maybe around 15-20% (centered over the WiFi symbol below it) and I never need to touch it. Gets dark enough for night driving and bright enough to read outside. Never found it stuck on one or the other when it shouldn't be.
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If you buy the app Lux you can customize how it adapts your brightness. The free version is good to but you have to use mostly default settings. By default it only adapts brightness when the screen turns on.
Is anyone having issues with auto brightness, jumping up and down every few seconds? Im currently sat in a dimly lit room with the TV on and my screen keeps changing brightness levels every few seconds, if I pull down the notification area I can see the slider jumping about. I'm guessing the phone is reacting to the TV changing brightness levels as the picture changes but it seems way too sensitive.
Yeah known issue afaik. I'm hoping it gets resolved on an update
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Is anyone having issues with auto brightness, jumping up and down every few seconds? Im currently sat in a dimly lit room with the TV on and my screen keeps changing brightness levels every few seconds, if I pull down the notification area I can see the slider jumping about. I'm guessing the phone is reacting to the TV changing brightness levels as the picture changes but it seems way too sensitive.
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One of the fixes in the November update was "Improvements for auto-brightness response in certain lighting conditions.".
I think auto brightness has always been an issue with Pixels. Its a feature I always turn off at this point
rosso22 said:
Is anyone having issues with auto brightness, jumping up and down every few seconds? Im currently sat in a dimly lit room with the TV on and my screen keeps changing brightness levels every few seconds, if I pull down the notification area I can see the slider jumping about. I'm guessing the phone is reacting to the TV changing brightness levels as the picture changes but it seems way too sensitive.
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Yeah it is up and down like a brides nighty when the light it low on mine, it isn't smooth like it was on my Pixel 5. It feels a bit like the sample rate needs a longer delay because just an increase in brightness on my TV can send my Pro brightness shooting up, the adaptive display needs to wait a few seconds before acting.
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Yeah it is up and down like a brides nighty when the light it low on mine, it isn't smooth like it was on my Pixel 5. It feels a bit like the sample rate needs a longer delay because just an increase in brightness on my TV can send my Pro brightness shooting up, the adaptive display needs to wait a few seconds before acting.
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Yeah my pixel 5 and 4a 5G never had this issue (same room and lighting conditions) its crap we have to pay to be beta testers nowadays, guess we will have to wait for another "fix" in next update.
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I think auto brightness has always been an issue with Pixels. Its a feature I always turn off at this point
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Should we really have to turn things off, considering the cost of this phone? Throw in a case and charger and your over £900 in for this phone, everything should work out of the box without having to turn off features.
It's horrible. When I sit at night in a dark room watching TV, it seems to react to the TV and jump all over the place. Never had this on a phone before. Why can't Google get auto brightness right? It's ridiculous.
Personally, I've always preferred Pixel's handling of auto-brightness to that of my recent Note 10+. I thought Samsung's auto-brightness didn't adapt very well (besides the dimmest not being as dim as the Pixel when using in the dark).