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It's quite a long time for me to boot android(I'm using WM all these days), and I found that when trying to use apps like autostart or shootme which require root, I was told my device was not rooted.
All works fine weeks ago. I'm using GBX0A on Raphael100
likounin said:
It's quite a long time for me to boot android(I'm using WM all these days), and I found that when trying to use apps like autostart or shootme which require root, I was told my device was not rooted.
All works fine weeks ago. I'm using GBX0A on Raphael100
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What did you change?
Our junk is rooted out of the box. No need to do anything additional for root access.
just install and uninstall some apps, so what actions will made a build become unrooted ?
likounin said:
just install and uninstall some apps, so what actions will made a build become unrooted ?
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I don't think you can intentionally unroot the build... I'm by no means an expert on how Android works at the core, but I've been trying to learn.
AFAIK, the concept of a rooted build mainly applies to the ability to remount file systems as RW. If the system partition is read-only (RO) and cannot be remounted with write access, then no root ability.
I know TitaniumBackup also requires busybox, not sure if that's a TB-specific thing or if it's also required for root.
after a reboot, things seem all right now, hard to understand...
likounin said:
after a reboot, things seem all right now, hard to understand...
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C'est la vie, don't question it. Glad it's working .
Hey,
So to a total newcomer to the whole rooting thing, i was wondering exactly what the dangers with rooting is? What does it open up to malware that wasnt there before?
When you jailbrake an i-device you for example hafto change the root password since its the same for all jailbroken devices after jailbrake.
Can someone break it down easy?
Many thanks!
soulman79 said:
Hey,
So to a total newcomer to the whole rooting thing, i was wondering exactly what the dangers with rooting is? What does it open up to malware that wasnt there before?
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Well there's a danger you can accidentally delete something you shouldn't have. You do have access to the file system after all.
Malware threats are overblown on platforms outside of Windows. Android and iOS malware still needs you to purposely install an apk/ipa. If not, they're usually sent through SMS/MMS, which the Ouya is incapable of. <_<'
Pretty much the only ways you can get malware is if you sideload it or if it somehow sneaks into the stores.
There's one specific exploit... but that doesn't affect the Ouya because:
1. It's not Samsung.
2. It doesn't have GSM/3G/HSDPA.
When you jailbrake an i-device you for example hafto change the root password since its the same for all jailbroken devices after jailbrake.
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No such restriction exists on Android. My Ouya account is still usable after rooting (and it coexists with my Google account).
thank you for taking the time to explain it!
Will root after morning coffe then =) If i do a system reset ( in the ouya menu´s ) will the root disappear? Or do i manually have to uninstall it if i want to make it factory original again?
soulman79 said:
thank you for taking the time to explain it!
Will root after morning coffe then =) If i do a system reset ( in the ouya menu´s ) will the root disappear? Or do i manually have to uninstall it if i want to make it factory original again?
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Root disappears if you factory reset, or there's a system update. So be prepared to reroot if there's an update. Keep the one click app handy! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
You should take a look at this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359390
I haven't had the opportunity to test the superuser preserve function yet (I updated before rooting), so just in case be prepared to reapply your root.
Ouya isn't Sony, I don't think they'll be blocking root access anytime soon.
Ultimate Chicken said:
Root disappears if you factory reset, or there's a system update. So be prepared to reroot if there's an update. Keep the one click app handy! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
You should take a look at this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359390
I haven't had the opportunity to test the superuser preserve function yet (I updated before rooting), so just in case be prepared to reapply your root.
Ouya isn't Sony, I don't think they'll be blocking root access anytime soon.
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Awsome! got it rooted and can FINALLY log in to youtube, the google tv youtube app is perfect!
Thanks for all your answers, really appreciate it!
so i did a factory reset just cause i got alot installed and wanted a fresh setup, but after the reset google store and some other app from google where still there, aren't they suppost to be wiped off with a factory reset? how do i get rid of them?
soulman79 said:
so i did a factory reset just cause i got alot installed and wanted a fresh setup, but after the reset google store and some other app from google where still there, aren't they suppost to be wiped off with a factory reset? how do i get rid of them?
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Ah yes, the Play Store hack is what's known as a dirty hack. It leaves crumbs that persist through a factory reset. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44166123&postcount=158
PS: you'll need root access to delete those. After you get rid of the play store stuff you can factory reset again and it shouldn't be back.
i ran the root apk and it says rooted, tried to delete the files with es file explorer but it wont delete the files... i even stoppped the process in the settings menu... is there another way i gotta go about?
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i ran the root apk and it says rooted, tried to delete the files with es file explorer but it wont delete the files... i even stoppped the process in the settings menu... is there another way i gotta go about?
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E's file explorer should be able to do it, but I think you need to mount system/ as R/W because it doesn't do so automatically. http://androidcowboy.com/2013/06/how-to-uninstall-system-apps-with-es-file-explorer/
If the above doesn't work, you're missing the superuser app.
These days I just connect things to my computer via microusb and use adb shell to deal with the file system; I still need busybox for that.
puh, got it done.. missed the part that you gotta show root explorer on the left menu.. Holy sh*t im out of my league here =)
If i install the framework only will that leave bits and peaces to, or is it only playstore that does this? i saw that the framework had an uninstall / cleanup function in the app so im guessing that it takes care of itself?
If i disable root acces after installing the framwork will the framework still function or do it need to be rooted all the time?
Big thank you for the fast reply´s!
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puh, got it done.. missed the part that you gotta show root explorer on the left menu.. Holy sh*t im out of my league here =)
If i install the framework only will that leave bits and peaces to, or is it only playstore that does this? i saw that the framework had an uninstall / cleanup function in the app so im guessing that it takes care of itself?
If i disable root acces after installing the framwork will the framework still function or do it need to be rooted all the time?
Big thank you for the fast reply´s!
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The framework needs root access.
The playstore mod is the only one that leaves bits and pieces AFAIK... next time before you factory reset, run the cleanup tools and uninstall the mod first. (Sorry I didn't warn you before. I forgot. >.<)
ahh, will do =)
Finnaly got it setup up right! Thx for all the support man!
Hello guys. I have the Mi Max, the problem came when i root my phone, after rooting, i install a good app from playstore that gives you the opportunity to unistall system apps( always i know which apps i must unistall , like gmail, weather etc ) .. in this phone when i unistall some apps the phone after reboot get in to a loop .. and never opens.. that means i must flash again the rom .. makes me very nervous because with every phone i had i done the same but never i got bootloop from this .. please tell me what to do to prevent this bootloop next time .
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Hello guys. I have the Mi Max, the problem came when i root my phone, after rooting, i install a good app from playstore that gives you the opportunity to unistall system apps( always i know which apps i must unistall , like gmail, weather etc ) .. in this phone when i unistall some apps the phone after reboot get in to a loop .. and never opens.. that means i must flash again the rom .. makes me very nervous because with every phone i had i done the same but never i got bootloop from this .. please tell me what to do to prevent this bootloop next time .
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Don't delete apps, just freeze them.
StonebridgeGr said:
Hello guys. I have the Mi Max, the problem came when i root my phone, after rooting, i install a good app from playstore that gives you the opportunity to unistall system apps( always i know which apps i must unistall , like gmail, weather etc ) .. in this phone when i unistall some apps the phone after reboot get in to a loop .. and never opens.. that means i must flash again the rom .. makes me very nervous because with every phone i had i done the same but never i got bootloop from this .. please tell me what to do to prevent this bootloop next time .
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Hi! Probably you have deleted some very important application. As I have no problem to remove I do not need the app from the system and everything works fine.
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Don't delete apps, just freeze them.
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with which application? its the same if i freeze them with unistall them? if i freeze them then the apps would open auto by itselfs?
I can't believe that this is really happening.. I froze them with titanium backup but after reboot, the device got on a bootloop.. really I am thinking that xiaomi [email protected]@@ because they don't want you to uninstall system apps. I know which apps I should uninstall, of course I know. Weather/Facebook/Gmail/carousel wallpaper etc..
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I can't believe that this is really happening.. I froze them with titanium backup but after reboot, the device got on a bootloop.. really I am thinking that xiaomi [email protected]@@ because they don't want you to uninstall system apps. I know which apps I should uninstall, of course I know. Weather/Facebook/Gmail/carousel wallpaper etc..[/QUOTE
For miui freeze is the same that uninstall, when some critical app from system don`t work make a conflict with system. One time same it happened to me, I went to folder data with TWRP and deleted file relative TB, then reboot normally. I use an app from PlayStore Root Uninstaller by Kunkunsoft, it shows what apps you could keep
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StonebridgeGr said:
I can't believe that this is really happening.. I froze them with titanium backup but after reboot, the device got on a bootloop.. really I am thinking that xiaomi [email protected]@@ because they don't want you to uninstall system apps. I know which apps I should uninstall, of course I know. Weather/Facebook/Gmail/carousel wallpaper etc..[/QUOTE
For miui freeze is the same that uninstall, when some critical app from system don`t work make a conflict with system. One time same it happened to me, I went to folder data with TWRP and deleted file relative TB, then reboot normally. I use an app from PlayStore Root Uninstaller by Kunkunsoft, it shows what apps you could keep
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Are you sure that this app gonna help me? I don't want any other bootloop. I flash the stock ROM 9 times on 1 week. Really ! I am gonna put on the road that [email protected]@@@@ phone...
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SubwayChamp said:
Are you sure that this app gonna help me? I don't want any other bootloop. I flash the stock ROM 9 times on 1 week. Really ! I am gonna put on the road that [email protected]@@@@ phone...
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of course, you have two types of apps by saying someway, from Google you can delete almost all except PlayServices, PlayStore and look at in your list of apps in setting most necessary have a simple icon of green android, not a special logo by i.e. PlayMusic, those apps don`t delete cause are neccesary to download, sync or other functions relative to PlayStore and in second place you have chinese apps, strangely those with chinese letters you can delete like reader, music, books, shopping but don`t delete micloud or yellow page. This app tell you what you can delete, just be careful, don`t sweeps with all..
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StonebridgeGr said:
of course, you have two types of apps by saying someway, from Google you can delete almost all except PlayServices, PlayStore and look at in your list of apps in setting most necessary have a simple icon of green android, not a special logo by i.e. PlayMusic, those apps don`t delete cause are neccesary to download, sync or other functions relative to PlayStore and in second place you have chinese apps, strangely those with chinese letters you can delete like reader, music, books, shopping but don`t delete micloud or yellow page. This app tell you what you can delete, just be careful, don`t sweeps with all..
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Thanks for the reply. In Google play I can't the app that you describe
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SubwayChamp said:
Thanks for the reply. In Google play I can't the app that you describe
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try root uninstaller kunkunsoft
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StonebridgeGr said:
try root uninstaller kunkunsoft
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This app?
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this is
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this is
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Thank you I will try it
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this is
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Same thing man my device got into a bootloop. I deleted only the apps that says could uninstall. But not all.
StonebridgeGr said:
Same thing man my device got into a bootloop. I deleted only the apps that says could uninstall. But not all.
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But how many apps did you delete, you don't more that 4 or 5 from system, wich can uninstall normal don't make conflict. I was lookinkg at this app and it seems a little extremely, says that contacts provider could be uninstall, I think that not is good, don't follow it blindly, use common sense or things go bad. Solution: this app put deleted app in a folder in sdcard, go to recovery, go to files manager and put again certain apps on /system/apps, probably just 1 or 2 be necessary.
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But how many apps did you delete, you don't more that 4 or 5 from system, wich can uninstall normal don't make conflict. I was lookinkg at this app and it seems a little extremely, says that contacts provider could be uninstall, I think that not is good, don't follow it blindly, use common sense or things go bad. Solution: this app put deleted app in a folder in sdcard, go to recovery, go to files manager and put again certain apps on /system/apps, probably just 1 or 2 be necessary.
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I can't understand very well what exactly you try to tell me. Please tell me again
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I can't understand very well what exactly you try to tell me. Please tell me again
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Excuse, I was so busy, sorry for recommend this app, it`s a shame, it`s incredibly what apps could uninstall according this app.
What I mean is that this app put deleted files in a folder with same name in sdcard, you can restore them going to recovery and putting them via adb in system again and setting necessary permissions to go on again for not to flash all the rom but probably you`re not familiar with that.
Now "borned" a new build 7.1.12 that it`s better than this version, I flashed it on my device and if you install via fastboot I tell you what apps I remove and I have no problem just that system every time you power on devices warns a security risk, just click understand and go on.
All the apps that you can remove normally from settings/downloaded apps can be deleted, and the next apps that I removed if you want; From /system/app; Chrome, Drive, Duo, MiDiscover, MiPlay..From /system/priv app; MiDrop. Mipub, MiuiHome (if you don`t like, just you must have other launcher), velvet, YellowPage and these that inttegrated with system but I don`t use; Google Photos, Music, Movies, then go to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache
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Excuse, I was so busy, sorry for recommend this app, it`s a shame, it`s incredibly what apps could uninstall according this app.
What I mean is that this app put deleted files in a folder with same name in sdcard, you can restore them going to recovery and putting them via adb in system again and setting necessary permissions to go on again for not to flash all the rom but probably you`re not familiar with that.
Now "borned" a new build 7.1.12 that it`s better than this version, I flashed it on my device and if you install via fastboot I tell you what apps I remove and I have no problem just that system every time you power on devices warns a security risk, just click understand and go on.
All the apps that you can remove normally from settings/downloaded apps can be deleted, and the next apps that I removed if you want; From /system/app; Chrome, Drive, Duo, MiDiscover, MiPlay..From /system/priv app; MiDrop. Mipub, MiuiHome (if you don`t like, just you must have other launcher), velvet, YellowPage and these that inttegrated with system but I don`t use; Google Photos, Music, Movies, then go to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache
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Neither now can understand what are you saying :/
there have root disabler by kunkunsoft
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StonebridgeGr said:
try root uninstaller kunkunsoft
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Hello guys. I have the Mi Max, the problem came when i root my phone, after rooting, i install a good app from playstore that gives you the opportunity to unistall system apps( always i know which apps i must unistall , like gmail, weather etc ) .. in this phone when i unistall some apps the phone after reboot get in to a loop .. and never opens.. that means i must flash again the rom .. makes me very nervous because with every phone i had i done the same but never i got bootloop from this .. please tell me what to do to prevent this bootloop next time .
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I have the same problem, i uninstalled safety, mi pay, mi credit and getapps, after that i got bootloop, i uninstalled magisk, and phone works fine, but if i try to istall magisk again, i go to bootloader after pressing reboot to system, phone works fine without magisk, but i want to have root
Hi all,
I hope this is the right to post.
I am at the point of throwing my SM-T800 in the bin. This Samsung bloatware is getting beyond a joke.
I have been toying with the idea of putting a custom ROM on it just so that I can get rid of all this Samsung crap.
Do I need to go that far or can I just put a rootkit on the tablet or maybe there is some other way to achieve my goal.
At the moment I’m just looking for ideas. Anything that could help would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Graeme.
I haven't had much of problem with this. One way to get rid of Samsung bloatware, is to go into settings > applications. Go through the list of every app. If you have no use for it, then delete it. If there is no delete option, like with flipboard or "internet", then disable it. This will stop all of its apps services and also will uninstall all of this apps' updates from the storage. Of course, the tablet will not become exactly "fast" after this because Exynos 5 Octa 5420 was a modest SoC, specially when coupled with the QHD screen. However, freeing up some space will be appreciated on the 16GB storage models.
PS: if there is no delete or disable option, click on the storage and at least delete cache and data. At least this will free some storage.
Akopps said:
I haven't had much of problem with this. One way to get rid of Samsung bloatware, is to go into settings > applications. Go through the list of every app. If you have no use for it, then delete it. If there is no delete option, like with flipboard or "internet", then disable it. This will stop all of its apps services and also will uninstall all of this apps' updates from the storage. Of course, the tablet will not become exactly "fast" after this because Exynos 5 Octa 5420 was a modest SoC, specially when coupled with the QHD screen. However, freeing up some space will be appreciated on the 16GB storage models.
PS: if there is no delete or disable option, click on the storage and at least delete cache and data. At least this will free some storage.
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Hi Akopps
I think I may have not made my goal clear.
My aim is to get rid of any unnecessary Samsung software for no other reason than not having them tell me what I can and cannot do with my device. I have owned it for more than 3 years now and it is well out of warranty. I am happy with the performance. It meet my needs. Disabling their software and removing latest updates just seems a bit futile. Samsungs' "Kids Mode" app just updates itself and then wants to take control of what you see. I'm in my early sixties, no young children or grandchildren and with no need for "Nanny" Samsung to tell me what to do.
I just want to get rid of there "preloaded" software. After all, I own the device, why shouldn't I be able to remove the software?
Cheers,
Graeme
I have tried the same but was unable to use any of the how to.
See here https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/help-to-flash-sm-t800-chagallwifi-mm-6-t3727755
1: gain root
2: download Titanium Backup
3: Remove any bloatware you want with Titanium Backup
No custom room necessary.
noxarcana said:
1: gain root
2: download Titanium Backup
3: Remove any bloatware you want with Titanium Backup
No custom room necessary.
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I'd prefer something like system app remover or BK package disabler in case something is inadvertently removed that causes an issue. It can easily be restored.
Hi guys,
do you have a personal safe-to-remove apps list?
I've tryed following the ones already discussed in this forum section aswell as others but I've encountered some freezes/reboots. (For example by removing BBCAgent , BeaconManager and Context Service).
Thanks for your time and happy new year! (tab s still going strong after 3.5 years yay)
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1: gain root
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And how do you gain root on the Samsung MM Rom?
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And how do you gain root on the Samsung MM Rom?
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You need to flash superSU with twrp or odin I guess.
Give this thread a read.
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I'd prefer something like system app remover or BK package disabler in case something is inadvertently removed that causes an issue. It can easily be restored.
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True. That would definitely be the safest bet. I've made a few stumbles before uninstalling something by mistake.
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And how do you gain root on the Samsung MM Rom?
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Tonyspo is mostly correct. Flash TWRP using odin, boot into TWRP, flash superSU. However, if you're only goal is to remove preloaded apps, I'd suggest taking ashyx's advice and just install BL package disabler from the app store. I use that on my Galaxy S7 and it works great.
I've tried odin, but in download Mode all of my PC's won't recognize the tablet. When booted everything is fine (but than I can't flash)
I've read its because Samsung removed the Option in the Rom to get root rights.
I've also tried Heimdall and I only get error msgs.
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I've tried odin, but in download Mode all of my PC's won't recognize the tablet. When booted everything is fine (but than I can't flash)
I've read its because Samsung removed the Option in the Rom to get root rights.
I've also tried Heimdall and I only get error msgs.
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I guessing you're actually in recovery mode not download mode if the tablet is recognised when booted to the os.
It says it is the Download Mode
pretty sure it is the correct one
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It says it is the Download Mode
pretty sure it is the correct one
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In that case what makes you think your device isn't detected in download mode?
Screen shots would help.
physwizz Debloater v2 Mediatek
With physwizz-2 app
OneUI 2.0 or 3.1
I'm using a very unusual method.
I replace the apps with a blank apk file.
Installation
Backup system
Install from TWRP
If you find you want to get one of the apps back just restore the system backup
Then use zarchiver to remove the apk from my Debloater.
Then reinstall it.
@physwizz
Magisk-module for debloating
physwizz debloat module v2
(Added a70 changes)
With physwizz-2 app
Magisk module to debloat any Samsung phone to remove all the apps that slow down the phone
To debloat:
Install the module from Magisk and reboot.
To rebloat:
delete the module in Magisk and reboot
@physwizz
You don't need even root to debloat. It can be done by running an elevated command and disabling the applications.
I've been using Package Disabler for years.
Very valuable for troubleshooting. It can also completely clear system app data that you can't normally completely delete in app settings.
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You don't need even root to debloat. It can be done by running an elevated command and disabling the applications.
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Yes.
This can be done quite easily but it can be a long and difficult process for less experienced users.
Firstly you need to make a list of which apps can be safely deleted (I found 72)
Then spend an hour or more deleting them manually.
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Yes.
This can be done quite easily but it can be a long and difficult process for less experienced users.
Firstly you need to make a list of which apps can be safely deleted (I found 72)
Then spend an hour or more deleting them manually.
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The problem with doing that is there are some apps you'll want to be able to toggle on/off easily on the fly.
Most don't even know exactly what all they're disabling... what could go wrong?
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The problem with doing that is there are some apps you'll want to be able to toggle on/off easily on the fly.
Most don't even know exactly what all they're disabling... what could go wrong?
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Yeah.
Most of the apps I delete are hidden system apps that are not needed at all.
They're not in the apps drawer so I wouldn't be turning then on and off.
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Yeah.
Most of the apps I delete are hidden system apps that are not needed at all
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A sample of some of mine. Some are worthless, some just resting.
This app also allows direct internet searches for the app in question. I play around here when bored sometimes.
Disabled the wrong package and a boot loop could be the reward. There's a couple apps I never touch.
Lol, little Bixby is the first to go
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A sample of some of mine. Some are worthless, some just resting.
This app also allows direct internet searches for the app in question. I play around here when bored sometimes.
Disabled the wrong package and a boot loop could be the reward. There's a couple apps I never touch.
Lol, little Bixby is the first to go
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My debloat list