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[REF] The Rules...Whether you like them or not

~~~Welcome to the Android Development Forum for the HTC Vision & HTC Desire Z.~~~​
I am TheRomMistress (or TRM for short), your Forum Moderator
I am here to help in anyway I can, so please contact me if you have any suggestions, problems, comments, etc. with this forum. While I cannot promise you will get an immediate resolution, or that I will be able to act on every suggestion, I can promise it will receive my attention.
With that being said, Please take a moment to review XDA forum rule. Anyone found intentionally violating these rules will be punished.
The most important "rule" I urge you not to forget is, HAVE FUN and BE COURTEOUS! Thank you and I look forward to keeping "ORDer" and "Peace" throughout the forum.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
What is development?
de·vel·op·ment   
[dih-vel-uhp-muhnt]
–noun
1.
the act or process of developing; growth; progress: child development; economic development.
2.
a significant consequence or event: recent developments in the field of science.
3.
a developed state or form: Drama reached its highest development in the plays of Shakespeare.
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Some of you will have a problem with these rules (those are the ones who need to ingrain them in their tiny brains and deal with it like adults), others will be thankful for them (those are the ones that deserve lots of hugs and kisses, not from me of course). In either event, I expect everyone to follow these rules equally, this includes Junior Members, Members, Senior Members, Developers, Recognized Developers, and even Moderators. No one is above these rules.
While I understand there will always be situations that require a different view on the matter, or a more thorough examination, this does not mean the action taken is inappropriate or unwarranted.
Search before creating a new thread/post.
Do not create a thread in Development just to ask a question.Post in Q&A instead.
Do not create a thread in Development where no developing is actually going on. This includes pre-release ROM threads with no download link.
Treat everyone how you would like to be treated.
Do not go into another ROM thread for the purpose of putting down the Developers work or to boost traffic to another ROM thread.
Links to manufactorers release of source code are not considered development. Post these in General.
Always use propper title formatting when releaseing something in the Development forum. See below.
If you disagree with my action, please PM me so that we may discuss things in a civilized mannor. If needed, I will seek out help from a Senior Moderator.
There are many different age groups using this site, in any case, use comon sence when posting and keep in mind the following: "would I want my grandmother reading this?"
If you are having an issue with another member, please report the post/pm in question rather then handle the matter on your own. We have tools available that you do not.
Take it like a man...even if you are a woman, child or Alien.
Slandering another member will NOT be tolerated.
Spam WILL NOT be tolerated
Failure to cooperate with a Moderator WILL NOT be tolerated.
Laziness WILL NOT be tolerated.
Posting non-development threads in the Development forum will only be tolerated once.
Disregaurd of these rules, as well as XDA Forum Rules WILL NOT be tolerated.
*** Disclaimer***
I reserve the right to modify these rules at any time. These rules written in print will not limit my action if your offence is not described in detail above. ​
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Read and search before posting a new thread
Redundant threads will be closed or DELETED without warning...even lead up to a BAN!!!!
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[REF] Read this before posting new ROM threads!
In order to keep Desire Z & Vision Android Development fora clean and avoid multiple threads for one ROM please do the following:
When posting a new ROM release or a link to a new ROM release, DO NOT create a new thread unless it is a completely different ROM.
If you are posting an update, please edit the active thread instead of creating a new thread. Include the following details:
[ROM][LANGUAGE][DATE]rom name and version (Build)[STATUS]
Thank you for your help in maintaining a clean and effective fora. ​

Rules updated. Now there should be NO QUESTION what is expected from this forum.

g1doobie said:
this broad takes herself way to serious. its a forum on the internet. get a life
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These rules are used throughout XDA. I am definitely not the only moderator who follows them. Just because this is the internet, does not mean you have free reign to do whatever you want. If that were the case, these forums would be even more difficult to navigate. Again, if you do not like them, you do not have to be here.

Where have the Mods & Admins gone??

Just curious but I have sent PMs and emails to XDA moderators and administrators with zero responses. Every time I check the online status for all moderators/administrators almost all are offline.
Questions....
1) What good are moderators if they are never online?? It shouldn't be this hard to get a few questions answered on XDA.
2) Does XDA need more moderators that can be active on the forums? How does one go about applying for this?
Thanks.

XDA has plenty of moderators. There are Forum Specific Moderators in every Device Forum. Additionally there are Senior Moderators. However, Senior Moderators, The Moderator Committee Members and Admins are very busy. They many not be intentionally ignoring you. But Most have lives outside of XDA and are not online all the time. Sometime Mods go away for the weekend or on holiday. I'm sorry about your bad luck for apparently picking those moderators.

JimmyMcGee said:
XDA has plenty of moderators. There are Forum Specific Moderators in every Device Forum. Additionally there are Senior Moderators. However, Senior Moderators, The Moderator Committee Members and Admins are very busy. They many not be intentionally ignoring you. But Most have lives outside of XDA and are not online all the time. Sometime Mods go away for the weekend or on holiday. I'm sorry about your bad luck for apparently picking those moderators.
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I did email an administrator but before that it has been PMs to the forum specific moderators.

Certainly, The Admin gets hundreds of emails a day. So I'm sure he will respond in the order in which It was received.

i have to agree, sometimes it seems we cannot move for moderators, and other times it's like a where's wally book (mostly when you need one) not that i have a problem, just having my 2 cents

CCallahan said:
Just curious but I have sent PMs and emails to XDA moderators and administrators with zero responses. Every time I check the online status for all moderators/administrators almost all are offline.
Questions....
1) What good are moderators if they are never online?? It shouldn't be this hard to get a few questions answered on XDA.
2) Does XDA need more moderators that can be active on the forums? How does one go about applying for this?
Thanks.
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Who did you contact and not get a response? Feel free to PM me anytime. I check my messages 100x per day!

A message from the moderators - All users please read...

Hello and welcome to the India Specific forums,
Before clicking the "New Thread" or "Post Reply" buttons, please take the time to read some rules / guidelines for posting in this forum:
1) Read and follow the Forum Rules:
Plain and simple. No further explanation needed​
2) Post your message in the proper subforum (see above):
All threads for Questions, Requests, and Help & Troubleshooting needs, go in the Q&A Help & Troubleshooting sub-forum, (if one exists for your device), and any misplaced threads will be promptly moved to their correct location. Users that continually post in the wrong forum will be addressed accordingly. If you're unsure of where your post or thread belongs, please read the Forum Rules again.​
3) No Off-Topic threads allowed:
While some moderator teams may allow the creation of Off-Topic threads, within these forums it is not permitted. There is an entire General Off-Topic forum devoted to this type of discussion and there are enough threads already available to meet anyone's off-topic needs. All Off-Topic threads will be deleted promptly and without warning. Users who continually create these type of threads will be addressed accordingly. A certain amount of Off-Topic discussion is permitted in other threads within these forums and will generally be allowed at the discretion of the thread creator (OP). If you're concerned with the amount of off-topic discussion and misplaced questions in the Development forums, please consider making a Q&A Thread for your ROM / Kernel / Project / etc.​
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These threads / posts will be deleted promptly and without warning. They have a history of causing problems due to trolls, fanboys and various troublemakers, and are therefore no longer allowed. Regardless of this reasoning, there is really no way to judge whether or not a particular piece of work is better than another because it's all relative to begin with. If you want to know what piece of work is better for you, install something and try it out for yourself. If you don't like it, try something else. Our Developers work hard to provide us their contributions, free of charge. Please show them the respect they deserve by trying something out and giving them your Feedback.​
5) Don't ask for an ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival):
Asking for an ETA is the XDA equivalent of telling a Developer that the free work they provide just isn't enough for you. It usually comes across as rude and / or demanding and most Developers will take offense to it. Even if a particular Developer doesn't mind being asked for an ETA, there are many that do, and there's a good possibility that it will incite arguments in the forum. In the end, it's just best to avoid doing it altogether. If you have no other choice but to ask for an ETA (i.e. the work you're doing absolutely depends on it), then please, do it through a private message and keep it out of the public forums.​
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With that, here are a few great threads to help you get the most out of your experience here... Please take advantage of them:
Get the most out of XDA!!
How to make a good THREAD, POST, QUESTION or POLL
Why you get short/one word answers! (The Long Answer)
How to give constructive feedback to developers
How To Logcat
GPLv2 tips for developers
Getting a moderator's help
And as always...
Thank you, and enjoy your time on XDA

Questions & Answers

Can we please keep posts to helping answer questions.
If you dont have a positive possible solution, don't respond within the thread.
Let's keep the forum to what its meant to be.
No Trolling. No Arguing. No Accusations.

Fairly sure we already have a Q&A forum..... and we're already in it
And fairly sure those points are already in the XDA Rules, if you have a problem with someone, hit report and let a mod deal with it, no-one likes a member trying to police other members as if they were staff

*Detection* said:
Fairly sure we already have a Q&A forum..... and we're already in it
And fairly sure those points are already in the XDA Rules, if you have a problem with someone, hit report and let a mod deal with it, no-one likes a member trying to police other members as if they were staff
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This...
Just making this thread to begin with was pointless, and only creates unnecessary clutter in the forum.

Thread closed!
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