I'm running Xiaomi.eu ROM on my 9 SE. On both T-Mobile and AT&T, I get "4G" data. Is this true 4G LTE, or H+ (HSPA+) that is labeled as "4G" but is really 3G? I've had phones in the past (Xiaomi, I think) that didn't support LTE in the US, but would put "4G" when it was really H+.
Wondering if my 9 SE will continue to work after 3G shutdown in the USA.
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Hi,
Since I got my Galaxy S III from Bell last week, I was never able to connect to their LTE network, only HSPA+ (HSPAP:15). I have good reception and was able to do a speedtest of 8Mbps in Quebec City.
According to Bell, I should be able to connect to LTE in Quebec City... I even got a new SIM yesterday, still no LTE love for me.
Should I exchange the phone ?
Thanks !
I just talked with a Bell tech.
My data plan is not compatible with their LTE network !
I have a corporate unlimited data plan with tethering...
Well, at least, I don't have to swap my phone.
Anthony: The LTE is supported in the S3, though it should show HSPA+ on the phone. Do you see that?
you: yes
you: Why isn't it LTE?
you: It's faster speeds and overall better.
Anthony: HSPA+ and LTE are the same things it's 2 different ways to call the same network.
Anthony: If you'd see just HSPA then you would not be on the right network though.
That is from bell chat
TL;DR - LTE means HSPA+ (H+) ther other network is just HSPA (H).
I'm confused on which version of HSPA+ the AT&T version will have. The T-Mobile version has 42mbps plus LTE support. Many have reported the two versions are identical. I always thought AT&T's 3G network maxed out at 21mbps? So if it does have HSPA+ 42 support does that mean we'll get faster 3G speeds, despite the fact that the network tops out at 21mbps?
at&t version maxes out at 21Mbps HSPA+
T-Mobile's has DC-HSPA 42Mbps
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at&t version maxes out at 21Mbps HSPA+
T-Mobile's has DC-HSPA 42Mbps
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Thanks. That's what I thought.
I hope someone finds a way to unlock the LTE on the Tmobile version. That would be SUPER. You'll get great DC-HSPA speeds (which also saves battery life) and ludicrous LTE speeds (which has limited coverage)
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at&t version maxes out at 21Mbps HSPA+
T-Mobile's has DC-HSPA 42Mbps
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In my area it's maxed out at 1Mbps...go figure
same hardware?
I'm trying to separate the hardware from the carrier's network. Are the two phones hardware identical, but the AT&T can't use the dual-cell speed because their network doesn't support HSPA+ 42 (which uses two simultaneous 21mbps streams)? Can the T-mobile version do LTE 100 except that T-mobile just doesn't have that technology in their cell towers?
The reason I ask is because I wonder if I buy one phone can I use it on the other network? If it is all just which firmware I use, then it wouldn't matter.
It might also be relevant because if I was roaming in Europe I would want the more capable phone, assuming one is better.
But if both actually have the same hardware, then it wouldn't matter.
Yeah all hardware is the same. AT&T's network only supports HSPA+ 21.
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T-Mobile states:
"T-Mobile recently announced that it has been testing unlocked iPhone speeds on T-Mobile’s 4G network. This opens the floor to many questions regarding the fact that many speculated T-Mobile would wait to debut the iPhone on its network until its 4G LTE network rolled out.
T-Mobile says it is in the planning stages of expanding its 4G network to Los Angeles and San Diego, which is where it said customers are experiencing “iPhone ‘speed sightings’ on T-Mobile’s 4G network.” This is potentially exciting news for Apple fans on T-Mobile; many speculated that the iPhone wouldn’t premier on T-Mobile until mid-2013, when the carrier plans to roll out 4G LTE."
I am not sure if I understand this:
1. What is this "iphone 'speed sightings' on T-Mobile's 4G network"? what do they mean by "speed sightings"? Are these occasional 3G/4G speeds when still mostly EDGE, is that why it is a "sighting"?
2. How is this re-farming supposed to work? Are unlocked AT&T phones (phones with no 1700MHz antennas) only able to get 3G/4G only if t-mobile 1700MHz 4G is re-farmed to the 1900MHz band?
3. Does this mean that once T-Mobile deploys 4G LTE in mid-2013, AT&T unlocked phones will also work on t-mobile 4G LTE? Are T-Mobile 4G LTE going to be on 1900MHz or 1700MHz band?
4. Is the re-farming of 1700MHz 3G/4G to 1900MHz band is a separate and unrelated thing from the t-mobile 4G LTE? Is the re-farming just a temporary solution until 4G LTE comes to t-mobile?
I am not sure how to understand this news from T-Mobile.
I currently have an unlocked (unlock code from AT&T) AT&T Note II (SGH-I317) with a t-mobile 4G plan. I have 12 days to decide to cancel my t-mobile 4G plan and go back to AT&T, or stick with t-mobile and pay the $325 cancelation fee to AT&T. But I can't decide if it makes sense to stay with t-mobile or i should go back to AT&T. For now, extremely high data speed is not that important to me. I just cannot stand EDGE. If I can get 3G (6mbps down/ 2mbps up) I will stay w t-mobile. For the future, I want to know if I will ever be able to get 4G LTE on t-mobile with my AT&T Note II, even when it does not have the 1700MHz antenna. Or will I be required to get a 1700MHz t-mobile Note II to eventually get 4G LTE, in which case I should sell my unlocked AT&T Note II and buy a t-mobile Note II or switch to the Nexus 4 phone.
Any help understanding t-mobile's announcement is greatly appreciated.
So I am looking to switch to T-Mobile from sprint and want to get the S3. I understand the T-Mobile GS3 works on HSPA+ and operates on the 1700 Band. I also see that the T-Mobile version does not have LTE. Now the ATT version operates on the 1900 Band and will only work on slower speeds until T-Mobile activates the 1900 Band here. Spoke to several reps and they state sometime this month. Will the ATT GS3 have the LTE that will work on T-Mobile when they activate it? So would it be better for me to get an ATT GS3 so that I have LTE when it becomes available? Thanks in advanced
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So I am looking to switch to T-Mobile from sprint and want to get the S3. I understand the T-Mobile GS3 works on HSPA+ and operates on the 1700 Band. I also see that the T-Mobile version does not have LTE. Now the ATT version operates on the 1900 Band and will only work on slower speeds until T-Mobile activates the 1900 Band here. Spoke to several reps and they state sometime this month. Will the ATT GS3 have the LTE that will work on T-Mobile when they activate it? So would it be better for me to get an ATT GS3 so that I have LTE when it becomes available? Thanks in advanced
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I have Tmobile and it works ok, It depends on the service coverage cause where I live I don't get 4G on any carrier lol.
That's a tough question to answer. Is it a matter of want or need LTE on your mobile device?
Arguably, at&t has better service than t mobile. But since t mobile is still at the stage of refarming their antennas/towers, Tmo could be just the same as their counterpart after its done. I have t mobile and coverage has been excellent. Data speeds are speedy but not quite as fast as at&t's LTE.
On HSPA+, i get great to decent speeds that can get all of my mobile needs online. It would be a plus to have LTE but i don't need it.
Do you get what i trying to get at?
Sorry i had to write this quickly.
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mastercpt said:
So I am looking to switch to T-Mobile from sprint and want to get the S3. I understand the T-Mobile GS3 works on HSPA+ and operates on the 1700 Band. I also see that the T-Mobile version does not have LTE. Now the ATT version operates on the 1900 Band and will only work on slower speeds until T-Mobile activates the 1900 Band here. Spoke to several reps and they state sometime this month. Will the ATT GS3 have the LTE that will work on T-Mobile when they activate it? So would it be better for me to get an ATT GS3 so that I have LTE when it becomes available? Thanks in advanced
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I say go for the Tmobile S3. T-mobile's LTE rollout won't be for a long while, and even when it does become available we don't know if it uses the same LTE band as ATT. My guess is that it won't. Tmobile's HSPA+ is plenty fast where I live for all my needs. You will only get EDGE (2G) speeds with TMobile on the ATT version of the S3 until Tmobile refarms their network. But even if they do refarm where you live by the end of the month, the many other places will still only be covered with the 1700 spectrum.
S3 on Edge is a pointless phone. Even with the 1900 mhz bands rolling out, your data will be spotty at BEST. Even in NYC Manhattan, the 1900 mhz bands are probably 20% complete. Go with the TMO version and you won't regret it.
I get up to 25mbps I average about 7-12 who cares about LTE? Go with T-Mo its cheaper and you will get faster speeds. At my home I get faster data speeds than my baby mama on ATT with her HoX soon to be OG Note
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I also have the same dilemma.
If T-Mobile will use LTE on the same frequency as ATT currently does, won't using the ATT SGS3 future proof it for LTE on T-Mobile network?
Am I missing something or do these devices have same specs (except T-Mo having 1700) once 3G moves to 1900 on T-Mo?
OP, I suggest you test T-Mo's network for coverage and speed in your area. I will be doing the same.
Get the T-Mobile version if you value fast data speed.
Don't buy a phone and hoping that it will have the correct technology to work on a network that has not even start to build yet.
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Im using this phone with cricket but for some reason it won't connect to 3g or hspa do anyone know why?
Perhaps because regular 2G, 3G or the faster 3G HSPA(+) on AT&T's network runs on GSM technology which is completely incompatible with the CDMA network Sprint uses for those technologies and the firmware on the Sprint variant is artificially limited to only be able to connect to CDMA and not GSM even though the phone's modem has the capability? Take what I'm saying with a grain of salt however.
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Perhaps because regular 2G, 3G or the faster 3G HSPA(+) on AT&T's network runs on GSM technology which is completely incompatible with the CDMA network Sprint uses for those technologies and the firmware on the Sprint variant is artificially limited to only be able to connect to CDMA and not GSM even though the phone's modem has the capability? Take what I'm saying with a grain of salt however.
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But I get Lte working fine.
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But I get Lte working fine.
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Yes, because LTE is its own technology. LTE, GSM and CDMA are each their own technologies, each completely different from the other in a multitude of ways. That's what makes one not compatible with the other, but with the advent of LTE it also made it much more cost-effective for device manufacturers to include 4G support for all major networks (provided the device supports the necessary bands and the carrier allows it, of course)... so yes, LTE should work flawlessly.
The specs on the LG Official Website for Sprint LG G8 shows it has all the 2G, 3G, and 4G bands on Cricket except it's missing B30 for 4G:
LTE Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/40/41/46/66/71;
CDMA Band Class 0/1/10;
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz;
UMTS Bands 1/2/4/5/8
Did you try to change the network mode to GSM/UMTS and reboot?
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The specs on the LG Official Website for Sprint LG G8 shows it has all the 2G, 3G, and 4G bands on Cricket except it's missing B30 for 4G:
LTE Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/40/41/46/66/71;
CDMA Band Class 0/1/10;
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz;
UMTS Bands 1/2/4/5/8
Did you try to change the network mode to GSM/UMTS and reboot?
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Yeah thats what I thought too but even after changing the network mode and restarting still not getting 3g data
Yes you can dial *#*#4636#*#* , go to phone information or network, look for preffered network, then select wcdma preferred, it will switch to hspa+, do note there will be no indication, only a 3g symbol on the bars. if you download network info app, it will let you see that you are indeed on hspa
Ok after many attempts to bring up my 3g inwas able to do so by going into ##data# and resetting the apn then boom 3g icon popped up. Weird because the apn was correct in the first place prior. But thanks now it works
what is the recommended network i should choose for tmobile network. i have sprint version
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what is the recommended network i should choose for tmobile network. i have sprint version
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LTE. If you don't get good speeds (about 10Mbps) then change it to GSM. This is something I actually have to remember to do if I'm outside the house because I actually get more consistent performance inside my house using 3G HSPA+/GSM. On HSPA+ it goes to is 6Mbps which is plenty usable but normally it runs at 10Mbps which is more than enough for Full HD streaming whereas if I use 4G LTE under the same condition I'll either get 30Mbps or 1Mbps depending on the time of day and/or if the network is congested. 1Mbps is definitely not usable for anything but streaming at horrible quality or browsing basic webpages.