Hi,
Since I got my Galaxy S III from Bell last week, I was never able to connect to their LTE network, only HSPA+ (HSPAP:15). I have good reception and was able to do a speedtest of 8Mbps in Quebec City.
According to Bell, I should be able to connect to LTE in Quebec City... I even got a new SIM yesterday, still no LTE love for me.
Should I exchange the phone ?
Thanks !
I just talked with a Bell tech.
My data plan is not compatible with their LTE network !
I have a corporate unlimited data plan with tethering...
Well, at least, I don't have to swap my phone.
Anthony: The LTE is supported in the S3, though it should show HSPA+ on the phone. Do you see that?
you: yes
you: Why isn't it LTE?
you: It's faster speeds and overall better.
Anthony: HSPA+ and LTE are the same things it's 2 different ways to call the same network.
Anthony: If you'd see just HSPA then you would not be on the right network though.
That is from bell chat
TL;DR - LTE means HSPA+ (H+) ther other network is just HSPA (H).
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I guess my cellphone uses EDGE, but I am not sure what it is capable of. My download speeds are so slow, that I would like to change this somehow. Reading the specs on the side of the box, says:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900& UMTS/HSPA Bands 1/2/5/6
Is it capable of anything other than EDGE? From what I am reading and experiencing, it seems that the speeds are not going to be anything other than slow...
What model?
What network?
Where are you?
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Model: r800a
Network: T-Mobile
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
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Unless you are on 4g or wifi I'm sorry to say... it probably will be slow
Download "speedtest.net" app and check your download speed. If it's around 1.5-3mbps then that's pretty normal for 3G
Have you selected WCDMA/GSM in the Network settings, if it is only GSM you will only get EDGE speeds, if not you will get HSDPA (H Icon), I have data enabled and it works flawlessly, It had hit 6Mbps as well for me.
you will only get edge on t-mobile, ur phone doesn't have the required bands for 3g, if you were on atnt you would get 3g using the r800a.
Man, that sucks... time to change my provider...
just to clarify, im 99% sure you should, globally atnt and other 850mhz 3g band carrier phones are usually compatible, tesltra here in australia being one, and telus in canada. atnt also has their own "4g" play version with its souped up hsdpa+ radio. but technically, as far as i can tell, there is no reason your phone should not run fine on their network.
you cant get t-mobile 3g on any version of the play, tmobile actually uses 2 different bands for 3g data, and usually only phones built for t-mobile will work on its network because the 2 bands are not common anywhere else.
Hi everyone,
I recently obtained an AT&T sim card and installed it into my unlocked and rooted tmo g2. I was under the assumption that I would be able to at least get 3g on the AT&T network with my phone, but did not realize that the g2 does not support the frequency bands for at&t 3g. I currently only get 2g/edge, data is slow and calls are sketchy.I have all the apn's setup correctly, I know I do. The phone simply does not support the frequency for 3g.
I was wondering if I can force my phone to always roam on the tmobile network somehow so that I can obtain 3g or even by some stroke of luck 4g. I have national roaming so there is no charge.
Is This Possible???
Somebody please help me figure this out or tell me why it will not work.
XDA is a genius pool, somebody out there knows...
Thank you in advance
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You can use AT&T's network with a phone that has an unlocked sim slot, but AT&T's 3G band (same band Canada Bell 3G is on) is different from T-Mobile's, as a result you won't be able to use 3G on AT&T's network.
The same is true if you bought an international Desire-Z and tried to use a T-Mobile Sim, no 3G speeds on T-Mobile, but 3G with an international GSM/HSPA carrier.
PS: The G2/DZ does not support 4G, the only time you ever seen 4G in the indicator is when the phone is on HSPA mode (kind of in between 3G and true 4G speeds).
In a nutshell, a T-Mobile G2 will ONLY be able to get 3G and faster on T-Mobile's Network.
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In regards to force roaming with T-Mobile's network, as far as I am aware the two have a limited pairing arrangement, with a AT&T Sim, you would get minimum edge speeds with T-Mobile. (ie: why would a competitor give you more than just basic service). ie: you're not a T-Mobile Subscriber, as such you'll only get Edge (if any data at all) when roaming outside of AT&T's coverage.
I am reading it might work on edge only is that true?
Different Bands... no 4g, just E... Maybe someone know more than me but IMO you cant use 4g
You can use the phone but you will be restricted to Edge data speeds. ATT and Tmo use different freq bands for 3G/HSPA.
ATT uses 850/1900
Tmo uses 1700/2100
You may be able to get 3G/HSPA speeds once Tmo refarms its 2G bands as 3G, but who know when that will be.
You will only get EDGE in MOST areas, T-Mobile is "re-farming" the 1900mhz spectrum from 2g to 3g/HSPA. They are doing this in order to be able to use the iPhone on their network, but it would have the same effect for any unlocked phone. They say they'll have their entire network re-farmed by the end of next year. I haven't found an official map, but this has places where it has been sighted: http://www.airportal.de/
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You will only get EDGE in MOST areas, T-Mobile is "re-farming" the 1900mhz spectrum from 2g to 3g/HSPA. They are doing this in order to be able to use the iPhone on their network, but it would have the same effect for any unlocked phone. They say they'll have their entire network re-farmed by the end of next year. I haven't found an official map, but this has places where it has been sighted: http://www.airportal.de/
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Looks like there are many spots in Bay Area, CA.
I tried this on my att S3 and got the sim card and was on the phone with tmobile tech for hours...it never worked and he was trying to tell me it was my phone....not...my phone works great with straight talk.
It definitely works on the AT&T phones. I unlocked mine and bought a tmobile prepaid sim the other day. Able to get 3g in San Jose but still only Edge where I live. Will be switching and dropping at&T once the refarm hits my area.
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i live in brooklyn ,NY and i get t-mobile 4g on my at&t s3 i get about 10mbps down and about 1.5 up
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msgnyc said:
You can use the phone but you will be restricted to Edge data speeds. ATT and Tmo use different freq bands for 3G/HSPA.
ATT uses 850/1900
Tmo uses 1700/2100
You may be able to get 3G/HSPA speeds once Tmo refarms its 2G bands as 3G, but who know when that will be.
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I have a unlocked phone right now...is there any way to change how the phone receives the freq.??
My phone is asus padfone 2
LTE/WCDMA
HSPA+ UL:5.76 Mbps/DL:21 Mbps
LTE UL:50 Mbps/DL:100 Mbps
3G :
WCDMA :
900/2100
2G :
EDGE/GPRS/GSM : 850/900/1800/1900,
4G:
LTE:
800/1800/2600
So I am looking to switch to T-Mobile from sprint and want to get the S3. I understand the T-Mobile GS3 works on HSPA+ and operates on the 1700 Band. I also see that the T-Mobile version does not have LTE. Now the ATT version operates on the 1900 Band and will only work on slower speeds until T-Mobile activates the 1900 Band here. Spoke to several reps and they state sometime this month. Will the ATT GS3 have the LTE that will work on T-Mobile when they activate it? So would it be better for me to get an ATT GS3 so that I have LTE when it becomes available? Thanks in advanced
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So I am looking to switch to T-Mobile from sprint and want to get the S3. I understand the T-Mobile GS3 works on HSPA+ and operates on the 1700 Band. I also see that the T-Mobile version does not have LTE. Now the ATT version operates on the 1900 Band and will only work on slower speeds until T-Mobile activates the 1900 Band here. Spoke to several reps and they state sometime this month. Will the ATT GS3 have the LTE that will work on T-Mobile when they activate it? So would it be better for me to get an ATT GS3 so that I have LTE when it becomes available? Thanks in advanced
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I have Tmobile and it works ok, It depends on the service coverage cause where I live I don't get 4G on any carrier lol.
That's a tough question to answer. Is it a matter of want or need LTE on your mobile device?
Arguably, at&t has better service than t mobile. But since t mobile is still at the stage of refarming their antennas/towers, Tmo could be just the same as their counterpart after its done. I have t mobile and coverage has been excellent. Data speeds are speedy but not quite as fast as at&t's LTE.
On HSPA+, i get great to decent speeds that can get all of my mobile needs online. It would be a plus to have LTE but i don't need it.
Do you get what i trying to get at?
Sorry i had to write this quickly.
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mastercpt said:
So I am looking to switch to T-Mobile from sprint and want to get the S3. I understand the T-Mobile GS3 works on HSPA+ and operates on the 1700 Band. I also see that the T-Mobile version does not have LTE. Now the ATT version operates on the 1900 Band and will only work on slower speeds until T-Mobile activates the 1900 Band here. Spoke to several reps and they state sometime this month. Will the ATT GS3 have the LTE that will work on T-Mobile when they activate it? So would it be better for me to get an ATT GS3 so that I have LTE when it becomes available? Thanks in advanced
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I say go for the Tmobile S3. T-mobile's LTE rollout won't be for a long while, and even when it does become available we don't know if it uses the same LTE band as ATT. My guess is that it won't. Tmobile's HSPA+ is plenty fast where I live for all my needs. You will only get EDGE (2G) speeds with TMobile on the ATT version of the S3 until Tmobile refarms their network. But even if they do refarm where you live by the end of the month, the many other places will still only be covered with the 1700 spectrum.
S3 on Edge is a pointless phone. Even with the 1900 mhz bands rolling out, your data will be spotty at BEST. Even in NYC Manhattan, the 1900 mhz bands are probably 20% complete. Go with the TMO version and you won't regret it.
I get up to 25mbps I average about 7-12 who cares about LTE? Go with T-Mo its cheaper and you will get faster speeds. At my home I get faster data speeds than my baby mama on ATT with her HoX soon to be OG Note
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I also have the same dilemma.
If T-Mobile will use LTE on the same frequency as ATT currently does, won't using the ATT SGS3 future proof it for LTE on T-Mobile network?
Am I missing something or do these devices have same specs (except T-Mo having 1700) once 3G moves to 1900 on T-Mo?
OP, I suggest you test T-Mo's network for coverage and speed in your area. I will be doing the same.
Get the T-Mobile version if you value fast data speed.
Don't buy a phone and hoping that it will have the correct technology to work on a network that has not even start to build yet.
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I have Cricket Wireless and I can only seem to get Edge speeds on my m7vzw.
What's weird is I have previously put a different Cricket SIM in the phone before the device was switched from Verizon to Cricket and I got H+.
The band frequency charts would suggest that I should get at least H+.
I'm using the ROM below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531235
I tried the Google Edition radio, just left me with no signal.
After that didn't get me anywhere I flashed m7vzw_5.28.605.2_1.13.41.0702_Radio, which gave me back the weak Edge signal again.
LTE/H+ was working fine before I ported from Verizon.
I don't know what Firmware the device is on, or how to check.
Any thoughts?
I do not know how you got H+ before, maybe it was a Cricket SIM before AT&T took over and was a Sprint one? That wouldn't make sense though as Sprint doesn't use SIM cards. Below is the official specs for the Verizon one. AT&T only supports 850/1900 H+ which our phone does not support. I do not know why you are getting bad edge reception though.
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-m7/
"We currently use frequencies in the 1900 MHz and 850 MHz ranges, although we have licenses to operate in other ranges."
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
AT&T bought out Leap Wireless (Cricket) a few years ago, so that is whose towers you are connecting through.
My only thought is maybe you live in a refarmed T-Mobile area and the phone roamed you to H+?
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Uzephi said:
I do not know how you got H+ before, maybe it was a Cricket SIM before AT&T took over and was a Sprint one? That wouldn't make sense though as Sprint doesn't use SIM cards. Below is the official specs for the Verizon one. AT&T only supports 850/1900 H+ which our phone does not support. I do not know why you are getting bad edge reception though.
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-m7/
"We currently use frequencies in the 1900 MHz and 850 MHz ranges, although we have licenses to operate in other ranges."
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
AT&T bought out Leap Wireless (Cricket) a few years ago, so that is whose towers you are connecting through.
My only thought is maybe you live in a refarmed T-Mobile area and the phone roamed you to H+?
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It might of been 3G and not H+ to be honest. I just know it wasn't Edge. I do still have the same SIM I tested with before, and it also only produces Edge while in the HTC One. When I previously tested for service the phone was active with Verizon, but with a Cricket SIM for the test. I performed this test about 5-6 weeks ago.
Sounds like I did everything I could on my end though. I might have to explore other phone or carrier options.
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It might of been 3G and not H+ to be honest. I just know it wasn't Edge. I do still have the same SIM I tested with before, and it also only produces Edge while in the HTC One. When I previously tested for service the phone was active with Verizon, but with a Cricket SIM for the test. I performed this test about 5-6 weeks ago.
Sounds like I did everything I could on my end though. I might have to explore other phone or carrier options.
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I do know cricket is starting to drop support on Sprint towers and by March of this year their phones will not reach Sprint towers. You might have still had some towers that were Sprint in your area a few weeks ago that finally don't work on Cricket anymore and you got forced to AT&T. It would be the only logical situation.