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Quick question/concern about the Tilt2's physical sturdiness.

First off, I just got my tilt2 from stores yesterday, and I must say, I love it so much! Just got a few concerns...
For those of you who have the tilt2, when the screen is tilted all the way up, is there a "looseness" of about 2-3 degrees? Meaning, theres just a small portion of the tilt2 at its most "tilted moment," so to speak, that it just wiggles back and forth for about2-3 degrees? It's not too big of a deal really as the current tilting of the tilt2 seems MUCH more sturdy (and it will probably last much longer holding its tilt feature), but I want to know if its a physical defect on my current tilt2, or that's just how its made for whatever reason.
Also, I am quite worried about how much looser the top screen portion of the tilt2 is from the bottom keyboard when closed all the way as compared to my original tilt. If I were to slightly use my hands to grab each separate part and pull them apart gently, it is easy to see that it easily lifts, and if I pulled any harder, I can almost break those halves apart, whereas my first tilt BARELY budged even after 2 years of use. Basically, everything about the tilt2 is better, but it seems like it won't be able to take much of a beating as compared to the tilt1.
Just concerned about inevitable wear-n-tear, and its effects itll have in the long run, or couple of months even. Thanks in advance for future input!
Regards,
K

The 2-3 degrees of wobble is normal from what I've read. Mine has it too. It's slightly unfortunate, but doesn't really cause any practical problems.
I have read at least one report of a screen that can be separated from the body by a lot when closed. He said he could fit 15 (I think) playing cards in there, which mine most certainly could not fit. I never had a tilting phone before to compare to, but I am satisfied with my closed gap, which only goes up to about 1mm with light separating pressure. If your gap is much larger than that, it may be one of the less well attached screens.

I have the same problem with my tilt 2. Its abit annoying when you press in the screen on the left side of the device in portrait mode with the keyboard closed and the screen pushes in because of the gap but I don't beleive its a defect. I have seen some sturdier as my buddy's tilt 2 have zero play but his keyboard is hitting the bottom of the device and has scratched some keys so I would take mine any day. Plus I don't wanna chance it and take it back for an exchange as what you get may be worse.. IE - Dead pixel, screen QTY, keyboard lights, an even more loose slider, etc, etc.

enisoc said:
The 2-3 degrees of wobble is normal from what I've read. Mine has it too. It's slightly unfortunate, but doesn't really cause any practical problems.
I have read at least one report of a screen that can be separated from the body by a lot when closed. He said he could fit 15 (I think) playing cards in there, which mine most certainly could not fit. I never had a tilting phone before to compare to, but I am satisfied with my closed gap, which only goes up to about 1mm with light separating pressure. If your gap is much larger than that, it may be one of the less well attached screens.
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Thanks for your reply, makes me feel at ease. Also, I think you've misunderstood, my gap is as small as you say, and from your words, it must be normal. It's when I intentionally put pressure on the screen and keyboard (not that I would do that on a normal basis, just for initial inspection purposes) that makes the gap wider. Though, I guess with a tilting screen like this, theres less tightness between the screen and keyboard. But nonetheless, all is normal. I was only concerned with those when I purposely applied my own force. I was not use to how much more delicate this machine, the tilt2, is as compared to my brick of a tilt1.
Regards,
K

Raspster said:
I have the same problem with my tilt 2. Its abit annoying when you press in the screen on the left side of the device in portrait mode with the keyboard closed and the screen pushes in because of the gap but I don't beleive its a defect. I have seen some sturdier as my buddy's tilt 2 have zero play but his keyboard is hitting the bottom of the device and has scratched some keys so I would take mine any day. Plus I don't wanna chance it and take it back for an exchange as what you get may be worse.. IE - Dead pixel, screen QTY, keyboard lights, an even more loose slider, etc, etc.
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Yes, that was one of my que's from the start.
It was when the whole device was closed and I was playing with the touch screen, you could feel the screen go down a bit as I applied pressure to it. It was almost like if i pressed any harder, the bottom of the screen would just keep hitting the keyboard. But hey, glad to see that this seems to be a normal thing.
Regards,
K
PS. Oh and yes, I noticed it when I tapped on the left side of the screen as well.

Privacy Screen Protector Review - Restrict viewing of phone screen from the side!

So if you guys are wondering what a privacy screen protector is, its basically one in which restricts viewing of the phone screen, so basically if anyone is standing or sitting next to you whilst you were on your phone, and they had a look at your screen, then all they would see is a black screen
So the one I ordered really cheap was this
It arrived pretty promptly and applied it the standard method, clean screen, use a credit card and slowly apply pressure as your placing the screen protector to ensure no air bubbles
What do I think? Well the protector is relatively thick and scratch resistant which means I have extra comfort in knowing its safer from drops etc. The screen protector is a fairly good size, easily covers the screen. It does its job perfectly, from side views, the screen can't be seen whatsoever
Disadvantages - I'm used to having my phone lying on the desk next to me, and so if I want to quickly see any notifications, I actually have to pick up the phone and bring it face to face with me, instead of usually just glancing across at it
2) It does reduce brightness so you need to bump it up a little, however the screen protector is described as having 99% UV protection and i've tested it outdoors and I could see the screen okay
Overall I'd recommend this, its cheap, you can't go wrong with the thick protection and the privacy factor is another bonus!

Have you tried with polaroid glasses on too?

Bright.Light said:
Have you tried with polaroid glasses on too?
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I'll get back to you, just about to go on holiday with the camera so I'll report back what its like under completely bright conditions with sunglasses

Accessories Standing cover with Pen

Got my case today and it's OK, but a couple of gripes. There is zero protection for the hinge. Drop it on edge and no safety net. Given that's kind of the heaviest area when folded seems likely to be what hits the concrete on a drop.
The front cover seems to slide around a bit if you put edge pressure on it.
While wireless charging works with the stand slotted, the pen holder prevents it from getting close enough to charge.
Also a bit too bulky to feel natural in the hip pocket with the pen slotted in, though I expected that. The pen is for travel and meetings so I won't have it attached all the time.
The back of the case shows fingerprints almost as bad as the screens do.
*EDIT* And finally I just noticed - the stand is really only useful when folded and in landscape mode. Otherwise you might as well just lay the phone down it leans back so far.
The gray-green of the case is definitely the color I expected the phone to be, so it's not a match to the phone case gray color, but the phone color is only really visible around the power button.
Sorry for potato photos, the only thing I had handy to shoot with was my Surface Duo 1.0.

cybermage1 said:
Got my case today and it's OK, but a couple of gripes. There is zero protection for the hinge. Drop it on edge and no safety net. Given that's kind of the heaviest area when folded seems likely to be what hits the concrete on a drop.
The front cover seems to slide around a bit if you put edge pressure on it.
While wireless charging works with the stand slotted, the pen holder prevents it from getting close enough to charge.
Also a bit too bulky to feel natural in the hip pocket with the pen slotted in, though I expected that. The pen is for travel and meetings so I won't have it attached all the time.
The back of the case shows fingerprints almost as bad as the screens do.
*EDIT* And finally I just noticed - the stand is really only useful when folded and in landscape mode. Otherwise you might as well just lay the phone down it leans back so far.
The gray-green of the case is definitely the color I expected the phone to be, so it's not a match to the phone case gray color, but the phone color is only really visible around the power button.
Sorry for potato photos, the only thing I had handy to shoot with was my Surface Duo 1.0.
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So as I understand, the colour of the case (Gray green) does not match the colour of the phone (Gray green)?

my front cover keeps flipping of, me no likey

QPR said:
my front cover keeps flipping of, me no likey
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maybe a 2 sided tape will fix it?

eswar539 said:
maybe a 2 sided tape will fix it?
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that sounds like a good thing to try. cheers

QPR said:
that sounds like a good thing to try. cheers
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Get 2mm one. Fits good

I got black in my free note pack with a grey grey phone are they supposed to give you matching?

eswar539 said:
Get 2mm one. Fits good
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I bought some for when I got a replacement fold 3. It's worth it. I could reuse the case.
mattcall said:
I got black in my free note pack with a grey grey phone are they supposed to give you matching?
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I was able to chose the color in the US.

One thing I do like about the pen attachment; when the pen is installed with the phone open and the power and volume buttons ot the top, I can slide the pen out a couple inches and with my left hand I can completely hold the open phone. The pen slides between my middle and pointer fingers and the phone balances while open and is weildable.
Maybe I should add a photo?

Question What Screen Do You Use The Most (Inner or Outer)

Hey guys, I was just thinking about this today and thought it might be fun to see how people use their screens. I mostly use the outer screen unless showing someone something or watching a video.

Only outer during the day, inner in the evening (in bed ).

Outer mostly.

I use both throughout the day, but I use the inner display for corresponding since the outer display is still too narrow for me to type on.

mostly outer as it has the quick glance widgets i need such as weather, agenda, world clock, music and calendar. inner screen is used when i read books, watch vids, take notes, etc

I sue outer for quick tasks and inner for file browsing, emailing, chat/email split screen, pdf/ email, word/ pdf etc. Would say 70/30 outer/inner.

I use the outer screen 95% of the time. It would seem that I don't really need a folding device and would prefer a larger candybar phone.

Check Messeges Outer.
To Answer or read/write/send Mails Inner.

Thanks for replying guys! It's interesting to see how people use this device.

I use my Fold as a tablet. I also have a Tab 6. So I keep stuck with my Note 20 as main phone. I have had the Fold about ten days now and I am hesitating to use it as main phone. So in this case I use mostly inner screen and leave my Tab behind.
I am an old 70+ guy and so much used to my S-pen. I am not sure if i will ever just the fold as main phone.

I find the outer screen just too thin to us.
I also have the Vivo X Fold, it is the perfect balance. Outer screen is about the same size as most flagship phones, S22 or 21 ultra, and inner screen is great for anything that requires a larger screen.
Also like the fact the crease is (almost) non existent on it.
If Vivo releases outside China Samsung may have some competition to their foldables.
Only thing is Samsung software is a little more polished and useful. The X fold isn't quite as user friendly as the Z fold4 and the Z fold4 has the S-pen, though there are other alternatives for the X Fold...

ultramag69 said:
I find the outer screen just too thin to us.
I also have the Vivo X Fold, it is the perfect balance. Outer screen is about the same size as most flagship phones, S22 or 21 ultra, and inner screen is great for anything that requires a larger screen.
Also like the fact the crease is (almost) non existent on it.
If Vivo releases outside China Samsung may have some competition to their foldables.
Only thing is Samsung software is a little more polished and useful. The X fold isn't quite as user friendly as the Z fold4 and the Z fold4 has the S-pen, though there are other alternatives for the X Fold...
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Also, the X Fold offers no water resistance. But yeah I'm jealous of the outter screen ratio and the crease on the XFold. Although the outer screen is MUCH better on the Fold 4 than previous generations.

General Going back to a boring candy bar phone after 30 days with the fold3

Unfortunately my time with my fold3 was short lived.
I decided to post my experience with it to help someone on the fence about getting one, my review might seem a lot negative, but I had a really good time with the phone.
I bought it about a month ago, paid 850USD for it new, quite a bargain considering that a z fold4 costs around 2.2kUSD here in brasil. After a long time just jumping from smartphone to smartphone and feeling that they all seemed, worked and felt the same, the zfold3 was just a breath of fresh air, so exciting to open and close it, the different ways to use it, all the productivity that the bigger screen brought, also the joy to use the smaller outer screen whenever I couldn't unfold it.
For this past month I haven't experienced any major bugs, every now and then an app would open on the bigger screen thinking it was on the smaller screen, YouTube would open with two columns often and once in a while with only one column. But again, nothing major.
What was a let down for me was the durability concerns. After a month babing it, the outer screen is scratched around the protective film, the camera rings are really scratched and without the paint. The paint on the bottom is also coming off. I exchange phones every 3 months or so, I never had a phone degrading so fast as this one, at least aesthetically.
Although the phone feels awesome on the pocket, that is only caseless so. With a case it is so bulgy that I just can't put it in and out of my pocket.
Everyday I see someone complaing on reddit that a speck of dust totally broke the inner screen or the hinge, the inner screen protector pelling off and pushing the screen until it is ruined. All adding to my already present anxiety of my phone breaking at any moment.
In addition to durability, another let down was the screen use of space when unfolded. Although the inner screen is great for content consumption, I don't think it uses its size effectively. Websites look ugly, a lot of apps are not optimized for a tablet size screen, the keyboard is a pain to use, you can kinda get used to it on both screens, but it's far from a comfortable keyboard to type on on any of them. Some apps like bank apps just look wrong on the inner screen, I tried changing the dpi to get more content on the big screen, however it always messed up with the outer Screen dpi.
Although my experience seems kinda negative, the phone is quite good in a lot of ways, the battery was actually quite good (coming from a note 20 ultra), performance is top notch, screen quality is great, speakers are awesome, best ones out there for sure. Fingerprint sensor is reliable and fast, cameras are decent if you are not a camera focused user. The split screen on this phone is just the best productivity tool you can find on any phone.
That all said, I still think this phone concept is awesome, I do intend to come back to a fold if I feel that durability is greatly improved and software is better optimized for the bigger display.
For now I'm exchanging it for a s22 ultra, I know I'll miss a lot of functions with the s22, but at least it will bring me some peace of mind related to durability.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts Reading from my Fold 4