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(Guide) Mate 20 X Chinese version for use outside of China

Hey friends,
This is for those of us who are importing the Chinese model.
I thought I'd start this thread, so that we can help each other getting this phone working here in the West. I've never had trouble getting Chinese phones working in the past. I'm hoping that we can discuss some major issues, such as: getting the Google Playstore working & Getting Google Services working....Getting our favorite apps working... :fingers-crossed:

jeradjohnso said:
Hey friends,
This is for those of us who are importing the Chinese model.
I thought I'd start this thread, so that we can help each other getting this phone working here in the West. I've never had trouble getting Chinese phones working in the past. I'm hoping that we can discuss some major issues, such as: getting the Google Playstore working & Getting Google Services working....Getting our favorite apps working... :fingers-crossed:
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This is my first China phone.. is it usually very hard to get things working? I thought it was basically just grab the apks and install them.

Jerky_san said:
This is my first China phone.. is it usually very hard to get things working? I thought it was basically just grab the apks and install them.
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You're correct. It's a few you have to install, not just the play store apk.

antiochasylum said:
You're correct. It's a few you have to install, not just the play store apk.
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#_# Thank god.. for a little there I was scared lol. Never bought a china phone before but this phone looks absolutely amazing.. Have a friend coming back from China tmrw so asked them to pick it up for me before they left and they got me the last one in the store that was 8/256gb. Honestly I'm really hoping for a bootloader unlock and linage OS.. I've come to really love their flavor.

Sorry, I didn't mean to scare you. Yes there may be a few things you will need to do, because in China they have banned Google and Google Play. These things will need to be installed manually. Hopefully with Android 9 they've made it easier, not harder than previous years.

After installing the Play Store are you good to go then in terms of being able to install whatever you want (Google suite, traditional apps, etc.)?

I'm sorry but there are a lot of problems with a Chinese smartphone:
1) Ok google does not work because huawei blocks this function because you have to use their service and all google's system services (assistent, feed, routine) not work fine
2) The voice command on the keyboard for dictate often does not work expecially with gboard
3) Many application not work eg : banking application and similar
4) The chinese ROM not use whatsapp, telegram the native icon

It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.

jeradjohnso said:
It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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I had just talk with italian store that sell the chinese version and there are these problems written above

Which Italian store sells Mate 20 x?

jeradjohnso said:
It seems to get a little bit better each version of Android. I'm hoping that some of the older problems will be fixed with Huawei's Android 9.0 release.
Right now pretty much everything I need is working on my Huawei Mate 9 and as long as they haven't broken anything in the next version, I'll be happy. All my apps work, and I am very happy with Nova Launcher.
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piskr said:
Which Italian store sells Mate 20 x?
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https://www.ilmultistoredelzazza.eu/index.aspx?pageid=1748191&prodid=19236868

(I could be wrong) ... but the shop does not look very reputable,
and it's only 20 euros cheaper than Cect-shop.com

Speaking from my own experience. Usually I installed the Google suite from their brands own app store
They have a specific application that installs the framework, Google contact, play services, play store and maybe a couple more services.
After that pretty much everything works. I'll update more when I got my phone.

I can tell you from my experience that when I bought the Huawei Honor Note 8 it was the china version, and had absolutely no issues with it here in the US. Everything I installed worked, the only thing I did have issues with was I couldnt get HiVoice to work in English (Couldnt find any eng version that would work), Ok Google couldnt work due to Hivoice being the default. The other thing I had to tweak was permissions to getting Google voice to work correctly with Android Auto. All the banking and credit card apps worked fine, obviously the wallet program or other things built in didnt work, but wasnt a deal breaker.

mimmog said:
I'm sorry but there are a lot of problems with a Chinese smartphone:
1) Ok google does not work because huawei blocks this function because you have to use their service and all google's system services (assistent, feed, routine) not work fine
2) The voice command on the keyboard for dictate often does not work expecially with gboard
3) Many application not work eg : banking application and similar
4) The chinese ROM not use whatsapp, telegram the native icon
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Thank you for the store contact, after considering pros and cons I've just ordered the phone from this store. What drives my decision are few simple facts:
I talked to the seller and he assured me that there is no problem with Gapps and payment systems (like GPay). As I'd had a Chinese phone before I was confident in his assurance.
I'm fully aware of problems with G Assistant but I use it primarily as phone tool with Android Auto and I believe that I could manage to use voice in that restricted purpose.
I don't use voice with the keyboard, health or fitness apps at all. So any misconduct regarding those apps doesn't worry me. It's the same with whatsapp and telegram - don't use them.
Far more annoying is the integration of lousy swift keyboard and ms translate into the system and connecting those applications with primary functionality (camera, AR..). They are really far behind Gboard and G Translate and therefore not only pretty useless but rather the disturbance in the system. But they are integrated into the global rom as well and you can't get rid of them in any region. So tolerate them and suffer or don't have Huawei at all.
But what really prevail in my decision is the fact that I'm buying the phone from a European seller. This not only abolishes any additional taxes and duties on the set price but also gives me an enforceable European warranty and delivery claims.

once you install Google play you can use any app I've never had a problem with WhatsApp or any other app tbh

stestesteste said:
once you install Google play you can use any app I've never had a problem with WhatsApp or any other app tbh
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Yes but the problem is that not work "ok google", google assistent, gboard with vocal dictate and other (services not application)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjAFROlOKKs&feature=share
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjAFROlOKKs&feature=share
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What is this? Mate 20 x with global rom?

mimmog said:
What is this? Mate 20 x with global rom?
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Maybe, the prize is from Thailand
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RN8 Global Version - Major Shortcoming

The global version I have comes with Google phone app and Google SMS messaging app. Both of these apps as you know do not provide the functionality of the MIUI apps. I have moved from RN4 to RN8 and this is the worst part of this move to be able to settle for less, much less. Same goes for call recording, it's gone.
I have heard that Indian ROM may not have this problem, can anyone from India confirm if this is true?
Also what options do I have to switch the ROM to a version that provides the full MIUI experience not the crappy Google experience.

I'm not sure, but what happens if you reset your phone and at the start configuration you choose "India" or "China" in the country list?

deltree said:
The global version I have comes with Google phone app and Google SMS messaging app. Both of these apps as you know do not provide the functionality of the MIUI apps. I have moved from RN4 to RN8 and this is the worst part of this move to be able to settle for less, much less. Same goes for call recording, it's gone.
I have heard that Indian ROM may not have this problem, can anyone from India confirm if this is true?
Also what options do I have to switch the ROM to a version that provides the full MIUI experience not the crappy Google experience.
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You can simply flash China version of MIUI and let Xiaomi spy on you agaian

I want to do the same. does this create a problem?

Noter2017 said:
You can simply flash China version of MIUI and let Xiaomi spy on you agaian
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Come on man Google, Facebook, blah blah are already spying on you. Don't worry too much about Chinese spying. MIUI apps really slice up the phone. Especially when themes are changed. Definitely would love a guide to override global rom with Indian rom.

Does ur global vr has 10w charger? Or 18w?

Please help decide - MiUI dialer and messaging on PM2pro vs RN9proMax

Hi All
I have ordered Poco M2 pro recently (6/64) at a pre-exchange price of 12339 INR (Post exchange 11339)
I have the option to order Redmi Note 9 Pro Max (6/64) at approx. 12610 INR (Same phone not available for exchange here)
Two main questions and opinions I need from you please:
1) How much better is the Redmi note 9 pro max camera compared to Poco M2 pro? Is it worth spending extra for Redmi Note 9 pro max over Poco M2 pro?
2) Although, noone is mentioned it specifically, looking at some of the videos in youtube of Redmi Note 9 pro max post MiUI 12 update, it seems it retains the Mi dialer and messaging app. Is it correct or it also loses these and gets the google dialer and messaging apps? I guess Poco gets updated to google dialer and messaging apps. Please clarify on this. It is important for me to be able to use Mi dialer and messaging apps.
I am not much concerned about ads as I will anyway debloat both using MIUI debloater and disable all ads.
Please help decide which one I should go for.
Any other difference or something which I should consider?

Also, is there a known reliable way to install the Mi dialer and messaging apps on Poco M2 pro without rooting?

My device is updated to miui 12 and i don't think its on Google's dialer and message app..
Why it'll update to google dialer?? When it has its own OS..
Check SS below poco m2 pro

Probably you are not aware that all xiaomi, redmi, realme, oneplus new devices are coming with google dialer and messaging apps instead of their own dialers and messaging apps to comply with some european regulations. Only some country specific roms like that of indonesia retain miui dialer and messaging apps. Xiaomi has officially confirmed this will continue in future also. I saw review videos of poco m2 pro miui 12 update on youtube and the dialer and messaging apps have changed to google after the update.
You are using the stock rom or any custom miui rom? @abhi.s4u
Check here: https://youtu.be/OI8-xS9POPE
https://youtu.be/y9prIls1u6k

saurav_k said:
Probably you are not aware that all xiaomi, redmi, realme, oneplus new devices are coming with google dialer and messaging apps instead of their own dialers and messaging apps to comply with some european regulations. Only some country specific roms like that of indonesia retain miui dialer and messaging apps. Xiaomi has officially confirmed this will continue in future also. I saw review videos of poco m2 pro miui 12 update on youtube and the dialer and messaging apps have changed to google after the update.
You are using the stock rom or any custom miui rom? @abhi.s4u
Check here: https://youtu.be/OI8-xS9POPE
https://youtu.be/y9prIls1u6k
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Bro its poco launcher's default icon pack which looks like google's icon pack.. its just icons thats y i hv uploaded screenshot..
I think u r talking about this video right
Check out below
Code:
https://youtu.be/I0PFvUsl-Bo

abhi.s4u said:
Bro its poco launcher's default icon pack which looks like google's icon pack.. its just icons thats y i hv uploaded screenshot..
I think u r talking about this video right
Check out below
Code:
https://youtu.be/I0PFvUsl-Bo
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Yes. Thanks for clarifying. Good to know m2 pro is not losing mi dialer. Recently launched poco x3 comes with google dialer in Indian also.
One more question. How is the speaker and headset audio quality. Heard some bad reviews about audio quality of m2 pro.

Neither its bad nor its good.. in the budget its okey..
One or two times i face earfone jack issue i mean sound didn't come in the earfone when plugged in..
Well its just random after restart its okey..

Mi 10 lite 5g, use of Mi dialer, sms and calendar

Hi,
I just got mi mi 10 lite 5g with global rom. Before I had redmi note 7, wich is a perfect phone made xiaomi. I discovered the awful google dialer , sms and calendar not smart at all compared to whom have been used mi since 7 years with xiaomi phones but also before with others chinese phones capable to receive mi roms ( wonderful Zopo) .
I know that for privacy bla bla , mi has forced to use the google package dialer ...
In the other hand, my redmi note 7 has just been updated to miui 12 and to my surprise the dialer sms and calendar are kept to mi.
It seems that for mi 10 lite 5g version I have to install the indian Rom, could someone clever route me to the miui 12 indian version link ?
In case of available one, do you think that I can update firmware without loosing my existing data , sms, photos etc... ?
Thanks in advance for your hints !

I have the Indian version of Mi 10T Lite, its sold by the name Mi 10i 5G in India.
The Indian version has Google Dialer and messaging app, which I don't like at all.
The Google Dialer comes with Call recording Facility, but it begins with an audio notification "THIS CALL IS NOW BEING RECORDED", and I don't like that at all , I feel it defeats the purpose of call recording in most cases.

Thank you for the reply.
Really disappointed with these google app..
Miui app are much smarter.

skystar91 said:
Thank you for the reply.
Really disappointed with these google app..
Miui app are much smarter.
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Just wondering, what extra features MIUI dialer and contacts have opposed to Google apps?

_mysiak_ said:
Just wondering, what extra features MIUI dialer and contacts have opposed to Google apps?
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It is smarter and able to use recording of call, remembering automatically the used sim for contact call, less clicks and confirmations for call dialer , for sms editing and calendar as well.
Really smarter !
I have using it since more than 6years even i have used mi rom ported on another smartphone device.
When you use it, you will see the difference.

skystar91 said:
It is smarter and able to use recording of call, remembering automatically the used sim for contact call, less clicks and confirmations for call dialer , for sms editing and calendar as well.
Really smarter !
I have using it since more than 6years even i have used mi rom ported on another smartphone device.
When you use it, you will see the difference.
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Fair enough, though I don't find anything missing in Google dialer/messages. Call recording is not allowed in my country anyway and I use one SIM only. Any call I make is one or two clicks away. I had been using several SMS apps over the years, but eventually I just settled down with Google messages. Calendar is feature lacking, but for this I have Business calendar app which is miles better than anything stock (be it Google or MIUI). Personally I'm very glad that Xiaomi switched to Google apps and in fact I removed pretty much all remaining MIUI apps from my phone (most of them refuse to launch without accepting Xiaomi data mining anyway).
In each case, Chinese ROM should have all the MIUI apps (or use xiaomi.eu ROM).

Question Alternative to Google dialer and message

I tried to get used to Google dialer and message apps since the oos12 update but I really can't, is there any way to get the color os or oxygen is dialer and message app to work? Or a decent alternative to gapps?
Thank you

I use ColorOS global. I have all that stupid google removed from Oxygen OS.
Or on OnePlus forum/community you can find Oneplus dialer/message/phone app. I guess that works on A12.

sevenr33 said:
I tried to get used to Google dialer and message apps since the oos12 update but I really can't, is there any way to get the color os or oxygen is dialer and message app to work? Or a decent alternative to gapps?
Thank you
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Like Null0seven I too have all stupid google stuff stripped out of my phone. I use True Phone with the google dialer and google contacts disabled.

Can i install oneplus dialer with recording in a12 ?

null0seven said:
I use ColorOS global. I have all that stupid google removed from Oxygen OS.
Or on OnePlus forum/community you can find Oneplus dialer/message/phone app. I guess that works on A12.
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I'm very interested in doing this. How did you strip out Google apps etc?

I mean that all beautifull gestures/apps that are missing from OxygenOS (removed/replaced by BS google) are in colorOS.

You should try True Phone. Definitely perfect dialer app with lots of customization capabilities.
True Phone Dialer

Truecaller

hayals said:
You should try True Phone. Definitely perfect dialer app with lots of customization capabilities.
True Phone Dialer
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Thanks ,it work

Textra is the perfect SMS app for me. Looks great, too.