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[Q] [POLL] Is it worth to root at the expense of loosing warranty?

I am thinking of installing custom rom on my phone for last few days. I know there is no S-off yet. So, i will be loosing my warranty after using HTCDev.com. Overall i am okay with stock rom, except overheating and wi-fi issues. You think any of the current rom will solve any of these issues and still be stable.
Is it worth to root now OR wait for S-off?
Are current custom ROMS for the HOX good enough for me to root and lose my warranty?

I voted YES! Why not?

trongnghia2411 said:
I voted YES! Why not?
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lol, cuz you probably lose your warranty ?

Is it worth to root at the expense of loosing warranty?
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The question you have to ask yourself, is do you want to take that risk?
you're potentially giving up a fully tested operating system and a safe guard against any potential hardware related problems down the track, for something that could be better / worse / same
That said, the warranty "MAY" be voided, doesn't mean it WILL (obviously it depends on alot of variables). You may not have any problems down the track, or the battery could superheat and melt through the phone casing

mcintoan said:
The question you have to ask yourself, is do you want to take that risk?
you're potentially giving up a fully tested operating system and a safe guard against any potential hardware related problems down the track, for something that could be better / worse / same
That said, the warranty "MAY" be voided, doesn't mean it WILL (obviously it depends on alot of variables). You may not have any problems down the track, or the battery could superheat and melt through the phone casing
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I unlocked. I rooted. Phone is now in repairs due to creaking and basically my whole phone was messed up. Phone was send with stock firmware and not locked. And they are still fixing it at no cost. So all under warranty. And will be rooting once I get it since my phone is unlocked
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2

mcintoan said:
The question you have to ask yourself, is do you want to take that risk?
you're potentially giving up a fully tested operating system and a safe guard against any potential hardware related problems down the track, for something that could be better / worse / same
That said, the warranty "MAY" be voided, doesn't mean it WILL (obviously it depends on alot of variables). You may not have any problems down the track, or the battery could superheat and melt through the phone casing
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Thats exactly my question in the first place. I would take a risk, no problem. But is it worth? I mean to ask, whether custom roms are that much better in terms of performance and solving issues such as overheating and wifi that i should root now and not wait for S-off?
Many Thanks for your responses.

veerm said:
Thats exactly my question in the first place. I would take a risk, no problem. But is it worth? I mean to ask, whether custom roms are that much better in terms of performance and solving issues such as overheating and wifi that i should root now and not wait for S-off?
Many Thanks for your responses.
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if you are worried about bloatware then you can disable the ones you do not want from settings-apps. that way bloatware gets disabled and phone runs more smoother..but if you are a flashsaholic then i still feel it deserves to root..but it is all about what you are after really and what you are use to

It would be easier for people to vote if your question was phrased as:
"Are current custom ROMS for the HOX good enough for me to root and lose my warranty?"

Its worth loosing your warranty, it will take still more months to s-off and even more and there may be chance for 1 year too. any way you are going to loose your warranty in one year.
Just loose your virginity and flash custom rom , it is fun to have custom rom in hox and it will show you some better performance.
and the recommended rom is charmeleon rom.
Did i say virginity , sorry warranty!

I heard its possible to unroot device, so you can get back your warranty.

Goku80 said:
I unlocked. I rooted. Phone is now in repairs due to creaking and basically my whole phone was messed up. Phone was send with stock firmware and not locked. And they are still fixing it at no cost. So all under warranty. And will be rooting once I get it since my phone is unlocked
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Actually real question for me is whether it is WORTH rooting for the custom roms available? Are custom roms that much better than stock in terms of performance as well as ironing out bugs such as overheating and wi-fi?
I do understand that HTC will probably honor the warranty (if needed), in case the cause is not root related.
Many Thanks...

junialum said:
It would be easier for people to vote if your question was phrased as:
"Are current custom ROMS for the HOX good enough for me to root and lose my warranty?"
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Thanks for suggestion, will edit my post...

veerm said:
Actually real question for me is whether it is WORTH rooting for the custom roms available? Are custom roms that much better than stock in terms of performance as well as ironing out bugs such as overheating and wi-fi?
I do understand that HTC will probably honor the warranty (if needed), in case the cause is not root related.
Many Thanks...
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Honest answer then yes. Worth rooting just for the performance as well and for custom kernels. current state of the kernels is messed up. Franco kernel has been cleaned up and reworked from source and well it is a beast of a kernel. i will say this again. my phone was unlocked and rooted. it is currently in repairs due to some manufacturers errors. it is all being covered by warranty and no mention that my phone is unlocked. so. only way to lose the warranty is if you overclock and the motherboard gets fried then yes the warranty is voided. but if you have like a screen that has came off or gap on either side and you still have your phone unlocked you are covered as it was not caused by any third party software.

Goku80 said:
Honest answer then yes. Worth rooting just for the performance as well and for custom kernels. current state of the kernels is messed up. Franco kernel has been cleaned up and reworked from source and well it is a beast of a kernel. i will say this again. my phone was unlocked and rooted. it is currently in repairs due to some manufacturers errors. it is all being covered by warranty and no mention that my phone is unlocked. so. only way to lose the warranty is if you overclock and the motherboard gets fried then yes the warranty is voided. but if you have like a screen that has came off or gap on either side and you still have your phone unlocked you are covered as it was not caused by any third party software.
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Goku80 said:
if you are worried about bloatware then you can disable the ones you do not want from settings-apps. that way bloatware gets disabled and phone runs more smoother..but if you are a flashsaholic then i still feel it deserves to root..but it is all about what you are after really and what you are use to
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I am not a big flashaholic. At least not yet
I am interested in custom roms mainly to see if it fixes overheating and poor wifi issues. Better performance could be bonus. So my question is narrowed down to (as we probe further), is there a rom i can install which will fix overheating and wifi while keeping it stable?
this is been very helpful, really appreciate it.

Serge.C said:
I heard its possible to unroot device, so you can get back your warranty.
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AFAIK, you can unroot it but it will say "Relocked" not "Lock". In other words HTC will know that you have rooted it at least once even if you are on the stock rom at that moment

I just returned my phone to Expansys for an exchange and it was unlocked.

Goku80 said:
Honest answer then yes. Worth rooting just for the performance as well and for custom kernels. current state of the kernels is messed up. Franco kernel has been cleaned up and reworked from source and well it is a beast of a kernel.
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Does it get hot on that kernel? I havent rooted because ive been thinking of sending this thing back for an exchange cause it keeps getting to 45 deg just when browsing 52-54deg when on 5min gaming. Since it seems like 8/10 HOX have the same issue either i root and get a rom that fixes it, or just send this back for a refund with seller.
PS: Not to mention i the left side of screen does pop out a bit i have to keep bending it in. but i can live with that for a while then just replace, but i cant live with a HOT Phone!!!!

droidpr said:
Does it get hot on that kernel? I havent rooted because ive been thinking of sending this thing back for an exchange cause it keeps getting to 45 deg just when browsing 52-54deg when on 5min gaming. Since it seems like 8/10 HOX have the same issue either i root and get a rom that fixes it, or just send this back for a refund with seller.
PS: Not to mention i the left side of screen does pop out a bit i have to keep bending it in. but i can live with that for a while then just replace, but i cant live with a HOT Phone!!!!
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Return it my friend. Or speak to them to find out why the phone is like that. And no my phone never gets hot. Kernel is just fine.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2

Goku80 said:
Return it my friend. Or speak to them to find out why the phone is like that. And no my phone never gets hot. Kernel is just fine.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
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+1 for sending it back. Screen flex can't be caused by a custom Rom so they should fix/replace no problem
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Not worth it.
Unless HTC confirm on HTCDEV that unlocking the bootloader will in no way void the warranty, I will not do it.
For me to do it, they need to specify in clear English that this act alone will not void warranty.
I can understand software faults due to custom roms, bricked devices or CPU GPU issues due to overclocking, but unlocking a bootloader alone shouldn't void it, nor should the use of a custom rom.
Alot of people will want to do it just to get superuser to use rooted apps & will want to keep using official HTC OS - it annoys me that this alone would void warranty.
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TWRP availability for Mi Mix 3

Hello all,
I was wondering how long will it take to release a official or modified TWRP for Xiaomi Mi Mix 3.

This doesn't belong in this section.

This does not belong in this section, but I do have a compiled TWRP here but its just untested.
I won't post a topic about it unless I know it works reliably enough: https://github.com/smiba/android_device_xiaomi_perseus/releases
(Also since again this is untested, the risk is 100% on the user who installs this.)

Your post does belong in this section I believe some standard formatting is preferred. OP was making a request, which definitely does not belong here.
That said, thank you for putting together TWRP for this device, but does any one have unlocked bootloader at this point such that it can be installed?

djbosanac said:
Hello all,
I was wondering how long will it take to release a official or modified TWRP for Xiaomi Mi Mix 3.
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@djbosanac It is logical to ask this question but it is another thing to do something, STUPID. OK, you just bought yourself a $450-$700 dollar phone and you would be stupid and try to install an untested version of TWRP? @simba has not recieved the phone yet (if you would read). So do not be stupid and install it UNLESS YOU KNOW CODING YOURSELF! Then, once you brick your device, you are going to scream bloody murder asking everyone to help you unbrick it!
Hey, I have seen it before.
So, chill for a week or two. Once people get their devices things move forward.

vq8acsxht said:
@djbosanac It is logical to ask this question but it is another thing to do something, STUPID. OK, you just bought yourself a $450-$700 dollar phone and you would be stupid and try to install an untested version of TWRP? @simba has not recieved the phone yet (if you would read). So do not be stupid and install it UNLESS YOU KNOW CODING YOURSELF! Then, once you brick your device, you are going to scream bloody murder asking everyone to help you unbrick it!
Hey, I have seen it before.
So, chill for a week or two. Once people get their devices things move forward.
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You need to chill.

Itaintrite said:
You need to chill.
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Ya, I am going to chill on this device. I have not purchased it, yet. It looks tempting because I like everthing about it but because it does not have band 71, it is a real phone killer for the t-mobile croud. If I do get one it would be the international version. I really, really, really love the slider. I mean, that is really cool what xiaomi has done with this phone. There will be a lot sitting on the fence for a while, I am sure about that. Your thoughts on the phone?? Did you purchase one?

I have TMobile and band 71 is a non issue. Very few areas even support it

stu5797 said:
I have TMobile and band 71 is a non issue. Very few areas even support it
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I have t-mobile and a lot of areas do support band 71, now. I think what you meant was if the area that you live in is not going to get band 71 until 2020 it may be ok to purchase a non band 71 phone now, then I agree. What I think is most want the lower bands to penetrate into buildings so they can receive calls and stuff like ATT. For most t-mobile customers (like myself) it is a hard sell. What I love is the bootloader is unlocked, slider, camera, GPS, etc. I am waiting for the global rom to see if it will support volte. I might get the "palace special" with the 10GB.
What I am worndering, right now, is if broadcomm hard coded the shut down codes into their gnss GPS chip so that people in the United States will not be able to receive the european and china GPS signals. If that is the case then a software upgrade after November 16th will not ever allow anyone in the United States to recieve the european GPS signals. Again, another deal killer.

I have a Mix 3 in my hands. Will look for a fastboot rom as backup and then test this TWRP.

Congrats! Did you successfully add Google Apps?

dragon-tmd said:
I have a Mix 3 in my hands. Will look for a fastboot rom as backup and then test this TWRP.
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Does the bootloader have the 72 hour lock on it as others had said?

vq8acsxht said:
Does the bootloader have the 72 hour lock on it as others had said?
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No, my account is already qualified

GPS work in USA?

ernicoats said:
GPS work in USA?
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Even though this thread has been off topic for some time and will be disguarded anyway; Anyone in the US, receiving L1/L5 Gallio GPS signals? and/or the China sats? I am just curious whether broadcomm hard coded those off (shut them down) based off position.

mansonstein said:
No, my account is already qualified
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You're saying that if you unlocked a Xiaomi device before there's no waiting time? That'd be pretty sweet.
Sent from my Xiaomi MI MIX using XDA Labs

mansonstein said:
No, my account is already qualified
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What do you mean by "Qualified" ?

smiba said:
This does not belong in this section, but I do have a compiled TWRP here but its just untested.
I won't post a topic about it unless I know it works reliably enough: https://github.com/smiba/android_device_xiaomi_perseus/releases
(Also since again this is untested, the risk is 100% on the user who installs this.)
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The phone was bricked with black screen after 'fastboot boot twrp.img', 'fastboot devices' and 'fastboot reboot' still works.:crying:
but, thx, anyway.

cashmore said:
The phone was bricked with black screen after 'fastboot boot twrp.img', 'fastboot devices' and 'fastboot reboot' still works.:crying:
but, thx, anyway.
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It's not very likely you brick a phone by just booting the recovery.img..... do you just mean it didn't boot into TWRP?

smiba said:
It's not very likely you brick a phone by just booting the recovery.img..... do you just mean it didn't boot into TWRP?
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Oh, yes, I just mean twrp did not boot. I should use 'halt' instead of 'brick'

locking bootloader after root?

Hi it's been a while since ive had to newly root a phone, (about 4 years) I just got my pixel 2xl (unlocked version) and I want to root it but I want to lock the bootloader after rooting. What kind of effect will this have? Will I lose root?

deathblade said:
Hi it's been a while since ive had to newly root a phone, (about 4 years) I just got my pixel 2xl (unlocked version) and I want to root it but I want to lock the bootloader after rooting. What kind of effect will this have? Will I lose root?
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Oh dear God....DON'T DO THAT!
For one, you will brick your device.
Two, you will brick your device.
Three, you won't have root or anything else, because...it will brick your device!

And that's why I ask before going off and doing stuff

deathblade said:
And that's why I ask before going off and doing stuff
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A wise man indeed. You'd be surprised how many don't. And then wonder why their device doesn't work anymore :laugh:

Badger50 said:
A wise man indeed. You'd be surprised how many don't. And then wonder why their device doesn't work anymore :laugh:
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Yes...and you'd do very well to listen to another wise man, the Badger...
But, then again, you'd be surprised how many are/were mistakenly, misguidedly, and peculiarly obsessed with locking the bootloader after it's been unlocked...for seemingly random reasons...and end up bricking their device and begging/pleading for help....
So...I'd say you are a wise man indeed...

Will Google service centre accept the bootloader unlocked device within warranty?

I am facing screen flickering issues on my 3xl under low brightness. This gave me daily headaches for one month seriously.
So I'm thinking to take the Google support in this matter. I'm not rooted but bootloader was unlocked. Will they consider it to service under warranty or not?
I'm from India.
Thanks for help

harigavara said:
I am facing screen flickering issues on my 3xl under low brightness. This gave me daily headaches for one month seriously.
So I'm thinking to take the Google support in this matter. I'm not rooted but bootloader was unlocked. Will they consider it to service under warranty or not?
I'm from India.
Thanks for help
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Check that smart pixels is off.

Google does not care if it is unlocked, they will warranty it.

mgp53 said:
Check that smart pixels is off.
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Where can i find it? I can't find it in phone settings.

harigavara said:
Where can i find it? I can't find it in phone settings.
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I apologize. I don't think stock Pie has that option. I know the ROM I am using has it, and it caused a flickering issue.

mgp53 said:
I apologize. I don't think stock Pie has that option. I know the ROM I am using has it, and it caused a flickering issue.
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Yes i am aware of that. I too used such Rom. But i don't know it removes flickering. But isn't that resulting dark or dull display?

harigavara said:
Yes i am aware of that. I too used such Rom. But i don't know it removes flickering. But isn't that resulting dark or dull display?
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Look under Battery in settings?

Yeah they are fine with it, that's why I'm basically locked into Google phones for life, no other manufacturer for US phones is like this and supportive of the rooting community.

Colour display not sharp

Pls I need help on how to overcome this bad display on my note5 because it's look horrible when viewing it.can it be resolved by using custom rom, kernel or any better ideal on what to do about it.plssss

Use any custom kernel and fix that with color control..

My display wasn't bad even without custom Kernel.. Seriously does people expect 1000$ Quality screen on an under 200$ device? I not even had screen burn or anything like that after 1 year of use now. Even though I use sRGB now since almost a half year.

Subhajit34 said:
Use any custom kernel and fix that with color control..
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Pls thanks for the suggestion but first am just moving to Xiaomi for the first time after a decade with HTC.any chance of me rooting or unlocking bootloader without pc

xell75 said:
My display wasn't bad even without custom Kernel.. Seriously does people expect 1000$ Quality screen on an under 200$ device? I not even had screen burn or anything like that after 1 year of use now. Even though I use sRGB now since almost a half year.
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Thanks for the comment but been under 200$ should not make the device look horrible in screen display.are you on note5 presently and pls can you make some ss of Ur display settings

horlamedyy said:
Pls thanks for the suggestion but first am just moving to Xiaomi for the first time after a decade with HTC.any chance of me rooting or unlocking bootloader without pc
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No you have to use pc either wise you cannot install custom recovery

Subhajit34 said:
No you have to use pc either wise you cannot install custom recovery
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Ait thanks...I really appreciate your response